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Tom Brown
03-25-2003, 10:49 PM
They seem like they would be the real deal, superior to a V-drive for efficiency. Why do they seem rare, or do they just not find their way to my neck of the woods?

Rexone
03-25-2003, 10:54 PM
I didn't think they allowed high performance boats in Canada Tom? :D

Tom Brown
03-25-2003, 11:07 PM
I don't think the ban is Canada wide, I think it's just around my part of the country. There isn't a lot of money around here, although we do have some bad ass combines.

AZKC
03-26-2003, 08:07 AM
When I get my lottery winnings I'm going to try one. I think the $$$'s scare some away that and the fact it would chew you up like a food processor but I guess thats true with all props.
KC

Cole
03-26-2003, 08:14 AM
i have heard they dont turn as well as bravo type drive or a v-drive

sorry dog
03-26-2003, 10:02 AM
I agree. Good question
Too bad it's not in the "right" forum. We are now going to have to flame you into submission until you get with the moderation program.
-Sorry (thread hijacker) Dog :D

Jbb
03-26-2003, 10:04 AM
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I have another question to add to the mix.
Why did the sales of JetBoats drop off considerably in the last 10 years?
RD [/QB][/QUOTE]
Because,Little Mr....The people who were pushing jets so hard are busy spending all of their advertising dollars, and spare time, designing and testing, and trying to bring to market the first prop in front stern drive....... eek!

theskiffs
03-26-2003, 10:22 AM
Because they SUCK? Humm But they also BLOW?

572Daytona
03-26-2003, 10:25 AM
I wasn't aware that sales of jets have gone down signicantly in the last 10 years if anything if you count the sales of SeaDoo and other type sport jets I would think the market share has increased? Do you have any numbers to back this up? There probably has been a decline in performance type jetboats but it would be more due to the decline in 18-21' boat sales in favor of larger boats rather than a factor of the propulsion choice.

572Daytona
03-26-2003, 10:26 AM
Little mister is trolling again :)
[ March 26, 2003, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: 572Daytona ]

Craig
03-26-2003, 10:33 AM
I would think the Arneson type drives aren't used that much mainly because they don't always work on all hull designs. One of the reasons we saw the passing of the Blackhawk drive. Also, most builders probably like buying a complete package. Motor and drive from one builder 90% of the boat buyers want stock and reliable. Merc has a good rep as well. The back fit isn't all that expensive compared to a B-Max or IMCO SC, about $13K. Only downside on my cat is it has a notched center pod and the notch would have to be filled in to mount the transom adapter.

Hallett19
03-26-2003, 03:16 PM
yeah, and they are like $400 million for one drive ... smile_sp

Jordy
03-26-2003, 03:18 PM
Hallett19:
yeah, and they are like $400 million for one drive ... smile_sp Still cheaper than a #6 last time I checked. I'll sell you one for $200 million Aaron. Think about it, that's half price. :D

jet4fun
03-26-2003, 04:19 PM
on the same note, why arent #6 drives more popular :confused: it would seem that the guy that has $250,000 to spend on a blown cat with 2000 h.p. could find it in his budget to buy a drive that will not break every third time out on the water.........if you think about it, it is propably cheaper for the #6 (or arneson for that matter) once you factor in having to buy a couple new drives every year :confused: :confused: :confused:

Just Tool'n
03-26-2003, 07:15 PM
I do not know why someone doesnt comes up with a drive like an old reliable v-drive, this equals affordable & easy to work on & really never have to worry about like an outdrive but works like an outdrive. Hell I just spent money upgrading to a Imco drive. Heck on Monster garage a while back they put on a casale v-drive in an ambulance for $1500. Now we all know that it will give years of reliable service in Jessie's wheelie mobile.

21rayson
03-26-2003, 08:17 PM
here's one a 26' eliminator with a arneson drive.i have more pics and yes you can ski behind it i have. ohhhh btw its for sale.

21rayson
03-26-2003, 08:18 PM
opps i for got to add the pic. http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/155IMAG0011-med.JPG

Hallett19
03-26-2003, 09:40 PM
jordanpaulk:
Hallett19:
yeah, and they are like $400 million for one drive ... smile_sp Still cheaper than a #6 last time I checked. I'll sell you one for $200 million Aaron. Think about it, that's half price. :D How do you stay in business selling them for that cheap ?

Jordy
03-26-2003, 09:57 PM
I sell them in bulk and get a discount for that... how many do you want? :D

Hallett19
03-27-2003, 01:43 AM
Well, my 19 ft hallett has a 460BBF mildly worked over, and I want to put quadruple arnesons, what kind of speed should I expect with that package ? And is that free installation Jord, or are there other hidden charges ?

superV
03-27-2003, 05:52 AM
21rayson:
opps i for got to add the pic. http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/155IMAG0011-med.JPG I would like some info on this boat? How much is it and where ect.? PM me. Thanks!

HavasuDreamin'
03-27-2003, 06:01 AM
Thinking of adding a third boat to the mix Super V? eek!

superV
03-27-2003, 06:30 AM
HavasuDreamin':
Thinking of adding a third boat to the mix Super V? eek! Always looking! :D

Catmando
03-29-2003, 03:20 PM
21rayson that's a dam fine-lookin boat! :) :cool: I've always liked that style. There's a 19' Nordic mini-daycruiser for sale in the classifieds, plus a 23' Can-Am Monte Carlo that sold last year(***boat won't take the ad out :mad: )I tried to buy both of them, but decided to buy a Carlson raceboat instead. That Nordic's engine is to die for, chromed up to the MAX. :)

Catmando
03-29-2003, 03:29 PM
Surfacing shaft drives like the Arneson, Buzzi, BPM don't handle very well at low speeds, especially backing and turning. They make docking a real pain in the azz, especially the single applications.
On the other hand, they don't break, require very little maintenance because of fewer parts and simpler design, and make the boat run faster.
Mike Sage has designed a new drive with the Arneson #8 shaft that promises to solve all those problems. I'll post his site when I find it.