Democrats in California out to F-us &here's proof

[MagicMtnDan]

Democrats Discussed Extending Budget Crisis
By Evan Halper and Nancy Vogel, LA Times Staff Writers
SACRAMENTO — In a meeting they thought was private but was actually broadcast around the Capitol on Monday, 11 Assembly Democrats debated prolonging California's budget crisis to further their political goals.
Members of the Democratic Study Group, a caucus that defines itself as progressive, were unaware that a microphone in Committee Room 127 was on as they discussed slowing progress in an attempt to increase pressure on Republicans to accept tax increases as part of a deal to resolve the state's $38-billion budget gap.
The conversation was transmitted to roughly 500 "squawk boxes" around Sacramento that political staff, lobbyists and reporters use to listen in on legislative proceedings.
According to Republican staff members who captured parts of the meeting on tape, Los Angeles Assemblywoman Jackie Goldberg and others discussed holding up the budget to dramatize the consequences and build support for a ballot initiative that would make it easier to raise taxes.
"Since this is going to be a crisis, the crisis could be this year," Goldberg said, according to a transcript. "No one's running [for reelection]. And maybe you end up better off than you would have, and maybe you don't. But what you do is you show people that you can't get to this without a 55% vote."
The ballot initiative would let the Legislature approve any tax increase with a 55% vote. The state Constitution requires a two-thirds majority. That means that under the current makeup of the Legislature, at least eight Republicans must join the slim Democratic majority for a tax increase to pass.
Fabian Nunez, also of Los Angeles, agreed. "If you don't have a budget, it helps Democrats," he said.
While a delay might serve the tactical advantage of Democrats, its consequences are already being felt by students, vendors and the poor: Since the new fiscal year began July 1 without a budget, the state has already begun to cut off money to some programs.
Republicans noted that many caucus members have charged the GOP with holding the budget process hostage. Yet, those same Democrats are now caught on tape discussing ways to hold things up.
Assembly Budget Committee Vice Chairman John Campbell (R-Irvine) said he listened to about 20 minutes of the meeting on the squawk box in his office.
"It sounded like they were hoping to create a crisis at some point to further their political gains in other areas," he said. "I thought that was outrageous."
Campbell said Democrats also discussed whether delaying the budget would increase the chance of a union-backed initiative that would lower the threshold for new taxes to a 55% vote of the Legislature. The state Constitution currently requires that budgets pass by at least a two-thirds majority, which today would require that a few Republicans join a united Democratic majority.
Campbell said that the Democrats discussed leveraging the public's distaste for the Legislature.
"They were worried that if the Legislature appeared to have dealt with the budget crisis, the initiative may not play well," he said. "This is very surprising, considering they are in charge."
After about 90 minutes, a staffer interrupted to alert lawmakers that their meeting was not private at all:
"Excuse me, guys, you can be heard outside," an unidentified staff member said.
"Oh [expletive], [expletive]," Goldberg said.
"The squawk box is on," the staff member said. "You need to turn it off right there."
"How could that happen?" Goldberg said.
Democrats who attended the caucus session included Patti Berg, Eureka; Judy Chu, Monterey Park; Mervyn Dymally, Compton; Loni Hancock, Berkeley; Hannah-Beth Jackson, Santa Barbara; John Laird, Santa Cruz; John Longville, Rialto; Alan Lowenthal, Long Beach; and Patricia Wiggins, Santa Rosa.
Goldberg made no apologies about her comments with regard to the timing of a "crisis."
She said it was part of a discussion over whether it would be better to make deeper cuts this year, to show Californians the severity of the state's money troubles, or to disguise the problem this year and make more drastic cuts next year.
"It meant whether or not we do the things this year or next year that let the public understand how serious the situation is," Goldberg said. "They think if we skate by, it was all hyperbole up here.
"We're in a crisis," said Goldberg. "You don't have to precipitate one. The question is whether we should make that crisis happen now when it's really happening.... When you wait a year, you double the amount you have to cut.... Is it better to do it now or next year?"
Caucus members were girding for what many in the Legislature believe will be a budget approved by the Senate in the coming days with no new taxes.
The liberals in the group have been pushing for billions of dollars in tax hikes to preserve education and health programs, and were discussing whether to vote for the budget approved in the Senate or to keep fighting.
"There is a wide degree of unhappiness at the state of affairs and how the budget might be lobbed over from the Senate," said Assemblyman Mark Ridley-Thomas (D-Los Angeles), who belongs to the caucus but was not at the meeting that was broadcast.
"Some of us believe the budget is neither workable nor reasonable without revenue enhancements," he said. "Why should we support an unreasonable and unworkable budget? The Republicans have no monopoly on principle. If they can strike a hard line, why can't we?"
The sentiment suggests that the budget impasse could drag on even if the Senate brokers a deal.
Many Republicans in the Assembly are already saying that they won't vote for a budget the Senate passes because it assumes that the recently enacted tripling of the state vehicle license fee, or "car tax," will stand.
Dymally said the meeting room the caucus used was unfamiliar to members.
"The [microphone] switch was on, but there was no light on the switch, so we didn't know it was on," said Dymally.
He called the incident "small potatoes."
"Nothing secret, nothing intimidating, no grand scheme," Dymally said.
"We did not plan to precipitate any crisis.... We were trying to figure out how to avoid a crisis."
Times staff writer Dan Morain contributed to this report.

[ROZ]

I like your signature.... I see it as, Stats don't lie, but statisticians do.....

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Typical! Get caught with their hand in the cookie jar and then try and say it was nothing! F**KING LIARS! I can't wait to recall Davis!

[Freak]

....LOL....
[ July 22, 2003, 01:47 PM: Message edited by: Freak ]

[Seadog]

So what else is new? How many times did wee willie veto or threaten to veto a Republican budget bill that he claimed was hurting the poor or the aged or the minorities or the environment or ad nauseum, and then come to find out it was the same as what he or the democrats has proposed just a few weeks earlier.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Keep this near the top. It is imprtant for all to see which party has a prime goal of making it as easy as possible to raise taxs and is willing to hurt those they claim to represent to get what they want. Remember many of these legislators today are the same people who walked around a couple of decades ago screaming "by any means necessary". devil

[058]

Raise taxes higher and higher...so all businesses leave and the only people that have jobs are government jobs. Those ****ing idiots just don't get it, do they? Recalling Davis is a start but I'd like to recall about half the legislature. I hope Jim Brulte and Co. hold tight to their principals, they are the only thing between us and a depressed and bankrupt state.

[Dave C]

I already have the vaseline out.
I am a realist, I know that even though they get caught, they won't get in trouble.
Around here the people think that the sleaziest, lying cheating liberal politician is still better than the best republican.

[Boozer]

All I can say is F@#$ the democrats it is really quite sad what they have done to the California economy and how badly that state is hurting because of them.
My lady is democrat and I sent to this her, she had nothing to say about it except "Don't send me anymore of this democrat bashing information. I know its just a ploy by the republicans to convert more democrats into republicans but it's not going to work on me." Sadly she lives in Cali and pays taxes in Cali but still goes for the demo's.
I have however made it very clear to her that I have never hit a woman and hope to never have to but if Hillary Clinton runs for office and she voted for her, I WILL without question give her 2 black eyes, a broken nose, fractured jaw, and a fat lip that will last for months. Hopefully I got my point across. :D

[eliminatedsprinter]

Dave C:
I already have the vaseline out.
I am a realist, I know that even though they get caught, they won't get in trouble.
Around here the people think that the sleaziest, lying cheating liberal politician is still better than the best republican. Sad but true. They are always willing to drink the cool-aid for the dems. The intellectually lazy folks out here will always fall for their emotional rhetoric and their easy big gov quick fix promises, even if they never keep them and their ideas never work.
[ July 22, 2003, 05:09 PM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[I_C_E_Y]

*Bump* (to make sure everyone see it.)

[N:ck]

Get real! So these people are Democrats and they are *maybe* also crooks. Does that mean that they are *maybe* crooks because they are Democrats? Hell no! I wonder what you'd do if we posted articles about big business crime. I mean, big business is the friend of any Republican politician, because that's what the Republican party stands for. So really the Republican party must stand for corruption! Just using your logic here.
I know that even you can do better than this Dan. Or can you? And the rest of you don't seem to be staying on topic, so this appears to be nothing more than a bunch of Republicans grinding on that other party about anything and everything they can think of. * INSERT TURNED-UP NOSE SMILIE HERE * Now pass the ketchup!
[ July 22, 2003, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: N:ck ]

[AzDon]

Your state is expected to provide certain services and it requires a certain amount of money to provide those services. If you guys can figure out how to balance the state budget in a way where nobody loses, then you need to put your idea on paper and shop it around Sacramento! A huge part of the problem there is that CA voted for Gore (as did a majority of the country's voters!), so Bush didn't do anything to stop the price-fixing and racketeering of the energy traders, in fact Cheney was in on it and they stood on executive privelege to protect the transcripts from those meetings. None of those traders was forced to make restitution and none of the "blackmail" contracts were voided. What was your governor supposed to do? Allow your electricity to be shut off? You guys can all bitch about him and even spend 40 million MORE of your tax dollars to put him out of office early, but he is merely a scapegoat for Bush's energy policy, paid for by his campaign contributors, Enron et al!
[ July 22, 2003, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: AzDon ]

[rrrr]

AzDon:
Your state is expected to provide certain services and it requires a certain amount of money to provide those services. If you guys can figure out how to balance the state budget in a way where nobody loses, then you need to put your idea on paper and shop it around Sacramento! A huge part of the problem there is that CA voted for Gore (as did the rest of the country!), so Bush didn't do anything to stop the price-fixing and racketeering of the energy traders, in fact Cheney was in on it and they stood on executive privelege to protect the transcripts from those meetings. None of those traders was forced to make restitution and none of the "blackmail" contracts were voided. What was your governor supposed to do? Allow your electricity to be shut off? You guys can all bitch about him and even spend 40 million MORE of your tax dollars to put him out of office early, but he is merely a scapegoat for Bush's energy policy, paid for by his campaign contributors, Enron et al! Wheeeeeeeeeeee!!! The spinmobile is at max RPM.

[N:ck]

rrrr:
Wheeeeeeeeeeee!!! The spinmobile is at max RPM. Well, you know, your average Joe Trucker can't afford one of those. wink
[ July 22, 2003, 10:25 PM: Message edited by: N:ck ]

[AzDon]

rrrr:
AzDon:
Your state is expected to provide certain services and it requires a certain amount of money to provide those services. If you guys can figure out how to balance the state budget in a way where nobody loses, then you need to put your idea on paper and shop it around Sacramento! A huge part of the problem there is that CA voted for Gore (as did the rest of the country!), so Bush didn't do anything to stop the price-fixing and racketeering of the energy traders, in fact Cheney was in on it and they stood on executive privelege to protect the transcripts from those meetings. None of those traders was forced to make restitution and none of the "blackmail" contracts were voided. What was your governor supposed to do? Allow your electricity to be shut off? You guys can all bitch about him and even spend 40 million MORE of your tax dollars to put him out of office early, but he is merely a scapegoat for Bush's energy policy, paid for by his campaign contributors, Enron et al! Wheeeeeeeeeeee!!! The spinmobile is at max RPM. Is this an expression of denial that Bush is in Bed with Enron? This is fact as reported by the mainstream media! If you only read the American Spectator, perhaps you missed this story!

[AzDon]

Besides- everyone knows that Bush has the only working copy of a "spinmobile"!!

[rrrr]

I dunno, Don. It's quite a leap from the subject of Democrat lawmakers discussing a hijack of the legislative process for their benefit (caught on tape no less) to talking about unproven allegations of impropriety regarding electricity delivery contracts.
Kinda smells like the old Democrat tactic of diversion and subterfuge, don't it?
I'm going to bed, though. Just finished my yard work and took a shower so I don't want to get all dirty again.
[ July 22, 2003, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: rrrr ]

[MagicMtnDan]

Dear Don and N:ck,
Please go to bed and don't come back to this thread. Or, take a flying leap. Or, get a lobotomy. Or, take a hike. Or, get the f outta here.
Listen you one-tune fountains of liberal (and sometimes socialist) BS, here are the facts:
1. The LA Times reported that story
2. The LA Times is almost as liberal as you two nuts
3. The story is word-for-word from the LA Times
4. The Democrats were caught by independent sources including journalists
5. Read what they said another time. If you don't get it, read it again. If you don't get it please read my introduction in this post (in other words get a lobotomy).
6. You can deny the truth but you'll only continue to look foolish (oops, too late).
7. Don't tell me "I can do better." YOUR Democrats can do better and they will, trust me.
8. If you're not up to being somewhat neutral and willing to keep an open mind, please re-read my introduction to this post (in other words get a lobotomy).
I am REALLY tired of the three of you (including Catmando in this) playing the same song over and over. You guys are probably intelligent. But for some reason you just aren't able to see things as they really are. It's time to put away the partisan bickering. Ah, nevermind. I think you should come here and donate all your money to the tax hungry Democrats who have this state in a full-nelson and are smashing the taxpayers in the balls until we empty our wallets.
Here's a clue for the Democrats running this state. When you're upside down by, oh say, TWENTY-EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS or whatever the number actually is, IT'S TIME TO CUT SPENDING NOT INCREASE TAXES YOU PINHEADS!
[ July 23, 2003, 06:49 AM: Message edited by: MagicMtnDan ]

[ROZ]

N:ck:
Get real! So these people are Democrats and they are *maybe* also crooks. Does that mean that they are *maybe* crooks because they are Democrats? Hell no! I wonder what you'd do if we posted articles about big business crime. I mean, big business is the friend of any Republican politician, because that's what the Republican party stands for. So really the Republican party must stand for corruption! Just using your logic here.
I know that even you can do better than this Dan. Or can you? And the rest of you don't seem to be staying on topic, so this appears to be nothing more than a bunch of Republicans grinding on that other party about anything and everything they can think of. * INSERT TURNED-UP NOSE SMILIE HERE * Now pass the ketchup! Nick you are beginning to look like a Socialist, not a Democrat.....
I think what you fail to realize is that we're not worried about regular ole' dem's who are looking to provide realistic benefits for their constituants, it's the wacko left who really who believe socialism is the ideal ideal.
Nick, Go ahead and post articles on big busines crime. I bet I can find just as many "Big Business" liberal criminals as you could Republican. Keep in mind that many of the Fortune 500 companies donate heavily to the Democrat party......
"so this appears to be nothing more than a bunch of Republicans grinding on that other party about anything and everything they can think of."
Funny.... I wish it were just "grinding" the other party, but unfortunately it's not.... Cali is in a world of hurt and the "trend" starts here....

[N:ck]

MagicMtnDan:
Please go to bed and don't come back to this thread. Or, take a flying leap. Or, go to h-e-double-hockey-sticks. Or, get a lobotomy. Or, take a hike. Or, get the f outta here.Got it. We're not invited to your Democrat-bashing party. Have fun.
[ July 22, 2003, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: N:ck ]

[ROZ]

Sorry Don, but I thought the caucus in question was in Californis, not DC.... It's a California Legislation issue that pertains to ammending California's Constitution regarding the need for a 2/3's vote in passing a bill......The democrates who happen to hold, and always hold because of the defined districts, a majority would like ammend the passing vote to 55%.... The whole reason for the 2/3 vote is to not be prejudicial. I think it works just fine the way it is.... You should see some of the wacky tax bills that have been attempted.... We'd all be on welfare if even 1/3 of them passed....

[ROZ]

MagicMtnDan:
Here's a clue for the Democrats running this state. When you're upside down by, oh say, TWENTY-EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS or whatever the number actually is, IT'S TIME TO CUT SPENDING NOT INCREASE TAXES YOU PINHEADS! Fact: California's income increased by 25%. More than enough to cover current growing population and inflation rate...
Fact: California's CEO's budget is a 45% increase...
I don't know about you, but my bank won't give me 100 dollars if I only have 85 dollars in my account....

[Seadog]

I have to agree that if don and nick are so goosestepping that they cannot look at facts objectively, we do not need their rhetoric. Blaming the Republican party for Enron is like blaming them for the Kennedy assasination. It takes a warped mind and a giant leap of reality.
It's not like anyone had illusions that the democrats wouldn't put politics above the good of the people, but you would think they would at least be less stupid about it.
[ July 23, 2003, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: Seadog ]

[MagicMtnDan]

ROZ:
I like your signature.... I see it as, Stats don't lie, but statisticians do..... Roz, did you get my e-mail?

[Essex502]

AzDon:
Your state is expected to provide certain services and it requires a certain amount of money to provide those services. If you guys can figure out how to balance the state budget in a way where nobody loses, then you need to put your idea on paper and shop it around Sacramento! A huge part of the problem there is that CA voted for Gore (as did a majority of the country's voters!), so Bush didn't do anything to stop the price-fixing and racketeering of the energy traders, in fact Cheney was in on it and they stood on executive privelege to protect the transcripts from those meetings. None of those traders was forced to make restitution and none of the "blackmail" contracts were voided. What was your governor supposed to do? Allow your electricity to be shut off? You guys can all bitch about him and even spend 40 million MORE of your tax dollars to put him out of office early, but he is merely a scapegoat for Bush's energy policy, paid for by his campaign contributors, Enron et al! Strongly disagree...Grey Davis twiddled his thumbs while the energy crisis became critical when the signs were visible for some time. The Democrats control the state legislature and as the population grew STILL outspent the revenue they took in. The energy crisis is only one issue of many for this scum sucking bunch. We need to do everything in our power to oust Davis as he was asleep a the wheel. He is so crooked.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

First off I find it hillarious that two people that live in AZ are getting this involved in a thread about the screwed up situation in CA. Secondly, I don't see any of this as "bashing the democrats". they were caught on TAPE saying it would be more beneficial to them, the democrats, to drag out the budget crisis since it would be beneficial to their agenda of raising taxs and changing the requirement from 2/3 to 55% to pass tax increases. Now, if that is not an example of a underhanded, backroom deal that scrwews the citizens of the state, who are already taxed WAY too much I don't know what is. Honestly, one of the legislators, Goldberg, who was quoted over the "squawkbox" when notified that it was being transmitted responded with "Oh [expletive], [expletive],". How else are we to interpret that resopnse? Obviusly they were trying to discuss something that if it was leaked would/could be very damaging. Frankly, anyone in CA who has read about this, as published in very liberal papers, and still votes for democrats, well, I guess they are lucky that stupidity is not aganst the law.
The simple fact that you condone this type of backroom dealing, and since you have not said otherwise I can only assume you condone it, is amazing to me and speaks volumes about your credibility whenever it comes to this type of debate. Even I, as a registered republican, can admit that the republican party has made screw-ups just like the democrats have as well and all that they, any politician, are looking out for is themselves and to get re-elected. So, put that in your pipe and smoke it!
EDIT: Had to correct some spelling errors
[ July 23, 2003, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: Havasu_Dreamin ]

[totenhosen]

Let's face it majority of all politicians are crooks. They are really only out for themselves and their own interests.

[Dave C]

Hey that "bush-cheney-enron" connection just does not work. Sorry. All those attempts to blame that debacle on the Bush administration falls way short of reality.
Enron gave plenty of money to democrats too. Did you know the CEO of Enron was a major contributor to Clinton and slept in the Lincoln bedroom during the Clinton administration? Everyone forgets to mention that fact. Remember when Liberman gave back the donations from Enron during the 2000 election. Forgot that too?
Selective memory is the surest indication of spin.
Nice double standard you got there.
Fact of the matter is that Enron, by themselves, were a bunch of crooks and they are being prosecuted by the Bush administration (forgot about that too I see) The DOL announced a lawsuit against Enron just yesterday for the retirement plans.
Any supposed energy problems caused by Enron or any other provider are a drop in the bucket when it comes to Calinfornia's real problems which truly lie in Sacramento.

[Dave C]

The one thing I object to the most is any attempt by any part of the government to circumvent the people's power. The 2/3 majority was put in the state constitution by the people for a reason.
To prevent crazy tax increases and spending by the legislature.
Now they are trying to get the supreme court to just ignore this provision.
This is BS. They need to go to the people to OK this which will naturely be turned down.
Think the supreme court won't approve this, they might! Remember the voters approved prop 187 and it was shot down by the court. An SF welfare ballot proposition was recently shot down by the court.
The state governments seizure of the peoples power is BS.

[ROZ]

What I really can't believe (alright , I do) is a fear that is being instilled in the public's minds that our schools will be shut down if the budget isn't passed. In actuallity, school budgets are exempt from the state's budget and WILL NOT be shut down and will continue to be funded throught any California state budget crisis. That was written in years back to avoid a collapse in California's Education system, in the event of a budget crisis.
Fact: Davis' camp will have to resort to scare tactics to win his re-election. Justifying the measures the represent won't be enough to win the votes from the people this time around....I think the tax payers are finally seeing how fiscally ineffective and irresponsible a government can be and are now at whits end. Our state's leaders, both new and old, will be somewhat cautious in their actions in the feature....
EDIT: had to add irresponsible in there somewhere...
[ July 23, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: ROZ ]

[eliminatedsprinter]

Dave C:
Hey that "bush-cheney-enron" connection just does not work. Sorry. All those attempts to blame that debacle on the Bush administration falls way short of reality.
Enron gave plenty of money to democrats too. Did you know the CEO of Enron was a major contributor to Clinton and slept in the Lincoln bedroom during the Clinton administration? Everyone forgets to mention that fact. Remember when Liberman gave back the donations from Enron during the 2000 election. Forgot that too?
Selective memory is the surest indication of spin.
Nice double standard you got there.
Fact of the matter is that Enron, by themselves, were a bunch of crooks and they are being prosecuted by the Bush administration (forgot about that too I see) The DOL announced a lawsuit against Enron just yesterday for the retirement plans.
Any supposed energy problems caused by Enron or any other provider are a drop in the bucket when it comes to Calinfornia's real problems which truly lie in Sacramento. Last I heard (about 1 yr ago) the single politician who got the most mony from Enron (according to gov campain finance records) was Gray Davis.
[ July 23, 2003, 09:51 AM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[058]

I love it when someone brings up Enron and tries to link it to Bush, I guess because they are both Texans they must be buddies. This especially from people who do not live in Ca. and do not know when or why the electrial crisis began. I bet they don't know or want to know that the crisis started during the Clinton administration and it started to come to ahead in San Diego with rates tripling with selective brown outs. What most people especially out of state people don't realize is the Enron created shortage of natural gas was payback for the screwing Davis did to them. He [Davis] terminated long term contracts for purchases of gas at a fixed price because Davis thought he could do better buying off the spot market. This legally questionable termination of valid contracts just about bankrupt Enron. The CEO of Enron did not get a paycheck for over 18 months while they scrambled to find ways of filling the gaps since Calif. was about 90+% of their business. And since Enron also sold on the spot market they saw a chance for payback to Calif. and took it. Davis had a chance to avert the crisis but sat it out hoping the problem would just go away. State Republicans told him if he acted now [Aug,2000] he could head off the looming crisis. He did nothing. BTW it was Democrats that pushed de-regulation of the power industry as pay-off for campaign contributions, Davis was the biggest benefactor of these contributions.

[ROZ]

Well there you have it.

[eliminatedsprinter]

This story has not recieved near enough play. pig_flyi If this had been republicans it would have knocked the death of Saddams sons off of the lead and stayed as the top news story for at least a week or two, esp out here in Ca.

[Havasu_Dreamin]

eliminatedsprinter:
This story has not recieved near enough play. pig_flyi If this had been republicans it would have knocked the death of Saddams sons off of the lead and stayed as the top news story for at least a week or two, esp out here in Ca. Come on, say it with me, Liberal Media. Hell, I'm even surprised the New Democrat, er, the LA Times, even published the story.

[eliminatedsprinter]

058:
I love it when someone brings up Enron and tries to link it to Bush, I guess because they are both Texans they must be buddies. This especially from people who do not live in Ca. and do not know when or why the electrial crisis began. I bet they don't know or want to know that the crisis started during the Clinton administration and it started to come to ahead in San Diego with rates tripling with selective brown outs. What most people especially out of state people don't realize is the Enron created shortage of natural gas was payback for the screwing Davis did to them. He [Davis] terminated long term contracts for purchases of gas at a fixed price because Davis thought he could do better buying off the spot market. This legally questionable termination of valid contracts just about bankrupt Enron. The CEO of Enron did not get a paycheck for over 18 months while they scrambled to find ways of filling the gaps since Calif. was about 90+% of their business. And since Enron also sold on the spot market they saw a chance for payback to Calif. and took it. Davis had a chance to avert the crisis but sat it out hoping the problem would just go away. State Republicans told him if he acted now [Aug,2000] he could head off the looming crisis. He did nothing. BTW it was Democrats that pushed de-regulation of the power industry as pay-off for campaign contributions, Davis was the biggest benefactor of these contributions. Good post, I'm putting it back up on top of the board.

[058]

Yeah....this needs to be back on top. This was the thread I was looking for this a.m. but couldn't find it [must have been a left wing conspiracy] :D I need to add this info was taken from the San Fransisco Chronicle about 1 1/2- 2 years ago...search Chron. Arcives as this was one of those 3 page reports.
[ July 25, 2003, 11:49 PM: Message edited by: 058 ]