Its official....

[SCUBA STEVE]

The Scuba family will no longer tolerate lake lice b.s.
My nerves are really getting tested this year. :mad:
1. boat gets hit
2. Mrs Scuba gets hit at the sandbar
3. The lake lice incident
We are just kicking it in the middle of lake havasu on sunday, getting ready to switch off inner tube riders (the tow-a-bull) when this fricken dum ass of a jet ski rider comes speeding towards us, I am at the back of the boat watching the rider come closer & closer, I start to wave my hands around kind of to say, "look jack ass we are right here" (the flag was up as well) The rider does not change directions at all and passes us 6"-12" away. Wets everyone and everything aboard the boat.
My first instinct to get everyone aboard and kill the rider. But what example does that set for the kids with us. :confused:
We were all kind of shaken up for a minute, wondering what we should do. I am watching the ski like a hawk, and see that she (yes the rider was a girl) did the exact same thing to another passing jetski. WTF???
So the scuba family no longer likes pontoon boats, (execpt for the knuckle heads party barge) and now Jet skis (lake lice) :mad:

[boatnam2]

im with you scuba seems these days everytime out i always have a pwc mishap or see one.im all for everyone doing there own thing but man some of the shit they do.

[DansBlown73Nordic]

You guys out West have alot more issues with these Jet Skis. You guys have me paranoid looking for one of these ASSHOLLES to run into my boat now. eek!

[Boozer]

You need to keep a 3 man sling shot on the boat. nail those f^&ks the next time they do some crap like that. Scuba dont you have a place deiverter on the jet? Roost em the next time shit like that happens.

[SCUBA STEVE]

boatnam2:
im with you scuba seems these days everytime out i always have a pwc mishap or see one.im all for everyone doing there own thing but man some of the shit they do. We started out ridding sea doos. I hope I wasnt as ignorant as some of the riders out there today. wink
btw we did get rain out in parker on Friday :mad: But it cleared up in time to make the the rest of the weekend perfect. :D

[RiverToysJas]

There are responsible PWC owners and riders, but there are MANY more A-holes out there!!! Can't stand them. :mad:

[Liberator TJ1984]

Oranges come in real handy for times like that wink plus it keeps the old arm limbered up between 12oz presses :D

[SCUBA STEVE]

Boozer:
You need to keep a 3 man sling shot on the boat. nail those f^&ks the next time they do some crap like that. Scuba dont you have a place deiverter on the jet? Roost em the next time shit like that happens. If the kids werent with us, I would have ran the bitch over! wink Ok I would have gave her a nice scare like she gave us, along with a rooster shower. :D

[SCUBA STEVE]

Liberator TJ1984:
Oranges come in real handy for times like that wink plus it keeps the old arm limbered up between 12oz presses :D I had a bottle of water ready, just in case she decided to pass again. :D
I was in just in shock the first time she came around. frown

[Phat_Kat]

SCUBA STEVE:
The Scuba family will no longer tolerate lake lice b.s.
My nerves are really getting tested this year. :mad:
1. boat gets hit
2. Mrs Scuba gets hit at the sandbar
3. The lake lice incident
We are just kicking it in the middle of lake havasu on sunday, getting ready to switch off inner tube riders (the tow-a-bull) when this fricken dum ass of a jet ski rider comes speeding towards us, I am at the back of the boat watching the rider come closer & closer, I start to wave my hands around kind of to say, "look jack ass we are right here" (the flag was up as well) The rider does not change directions at all and passes us 6"-12" away. Wets everyone and everything aboard the boat.
My first instinct to get everyone aboard and kill the rider. But what example does that set for the kids with us. :confused:
We were all kind of shaken up for a minute, wondering what we should do. I am watching the ski like a hawk, and see that she (yes the rider was a girl) did the exact same thing to another passing jetski. WTF???
So the scuba family no longer likes pontoon boats, (execpt for the knuckle heads party barge) and now Jet skis (lake lice) :mad: hey scuba,
is there a link to the pontoon hate story?

[summerlove]

SCUBA STEVE:
So the scuba family no longer likes pontoon boats, (execpt for the knuckle heads party barge) and now Jet skis (lake lice) :mad: OK, I completely understand the lake lice thing, but what's up with the pontoons??? :confused:

[Moneypitt]

How about catching up with them from the back, accelerate up even, and Lasso them right off the PWC, haul/drag them in to the LE and place them under citizens arrest for assault, them same charge you would get for roosting them. OR lasso them as they buzz you, proof they were way to close to your boat or the rope would not have reached them. Does anyone follow these jerks to their camp and kick their ass?

[Boozer]

You'll get charged with assault for roosting someone? What if you say "Oops sorry didn't see her back there when I hit the roost."

[SCUBA STEVE]

Long story short, during spring break a rookie pontoon driver, (rental) ran into me at copper canyon. :mad: Here is the og thread. why scuba hates pontoons (http://forums.***boat.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=002521)
So thats 3 strikes this year. And I have kept my cool on all 3 of them.
The next incident might have a different outcome.

[summerlove]

Hey Steve:
Now I hate them also! Damn, that was a nasty scar. Who did the work and how'd the repair turn out? Maybe you outta stay home from now on and make Mrs. Scuba happy! LOL!

[H20 Party Starter]

Just do what I do...........
Throw the first full can of whatever you could find at the head of the lake lice driver!!!!!!!!!!!
**** them!!!!!!!!! :mad: devil

[SCUBA STEVE]

lol, Mrs Scuba is happiest when we are at the lake/river. :D
Aftershock ended up doing the repair. I rushed them to get it done, so its not 100% to my liking but good enough for the season. I will be taking it back at the end of the season so they can finsish the job.
There was a brite side to all of this. That morning I hit a slot machine for $1000 at the blue water casino :D :D

[summerlove]

SCUBA STEVE:
lol, Mrs Scuba is happiest when we are at the lake/river. :D
Aftershock ended up doing the repair. I rushed them to get it done, so its not 100% to my liking but good enough for the season. I will be taking it back at the end of the season so they can finsish the job.
There was a brite side to all of this. That morning I hit a slot machine for $1000 at the blue water casino :D :D I'm glad it worked out - and that the Mrs. is ALWAYS happy at the river! Any accident, no matter how minor, is frustrating and upsetting. I can't even imagine how pissed you were. Oh well, the grand helped!

[NastyOne]

SCUBA STEVE:
That morning I hit a slot machine for $1000 at the blue water casino :D :D Sweet Scuba.......Drinks on You. :D :D

[SCUBA STEVE]

90% of the time drinks are on me anyway. lol :D

[Warlock28]

SCUBA STEVE:
There was a brite side to all of this. That morning I hit a slot machine for $1000 at the blue water casino :D :D Congrats on the $1000, Glad to see anyone take money out of that place, lord know the mrs. puts enough in.
:D :D :D

[CA Stu]

Liberator TJ1984:
Oranges come in real handy for times like that wink That is a great idea. If the dipshit is within Orange range, I'm gonna give them a Nolan Ryan fastball in the esophagus!
CA Stu <-- 2-2 the count, it's the windup...

[Trailer Park Casanova]

You can tell when pontoons have departed the floating bars,, several of the red cushion dock balls are punctured/deflated.

[JetBoatRich]

Sucks Steve, glad nobody was hurt. I had similar event this summer and wanted to take after the guy. Like you the kids were in the boat, which kept me from chasing him down.

[miller19j]

Once again Steve you amaze me with your restraint and cool head. We need more boaters like you.
We have all had run-ins with uneducated PWC operators. If these people knew that what they were doing was wrong I bet 90% of them would not act that way. Education is the key to safer waterways for all of us. I am a big advocate for a mandatory boater education for both PWC’s and Boaters. We all need to know the rules!

[AzDon]

I hate PWC's also! Check out my reply to the thread about "Why kids don't belong on PWC's'!

[SCUBA STEVE]

miller19j:
Once again Steve you amaze me with your restraint and cool head. We need more boaters like you.
We have all had run-ins with uneducated PWC operators. If these people knew that what they were doing was wrong I bet 90% of them would not act that way. Education is the key to safer waterways for all of us. I am a big advocate for a mandatory boater education for both PWC’s and Boaters. We all need to know the rules! Thanks Miller, but I think I am starting to sound like a wuss now. lol :D

[H20 Party Starter]

SCUBA STEVE:
miller19j:
Once again Steve you amaze me with your restraint and cool head. We need more boaters like you.
We have all had run-ins with uneducated PWC operators. If these people knew that what they were doing was wrong I bet 90% of them would not act that way. Education is the key to safer waterways for all of us. I am a big advocate for a mandatory boater education for both PWC’s and Boaters. We all need to know the rules! Thanks Miller, but I think I am starting to sound like a wuss now. lol :D Scuba, your gonna have to start a fight with someone at the next OP6 to prove your manhood if you keep this nice guy stuff up :D LOL
J/k- Brains over brawls anyday buddy wink

[SCUBA STEVE]

I was thinking the same thing Josh. This nice guy act is getting old. lol :D
Did up4river hit your beer bong on Saturday?

[Ziggy]

Steve, bummer she didn't fall near you and catch some verbal fallout for her stupid moves. I've seen it done and they think its just funny shit cause most are smiling back at you like "aren't you gonna say thanks for my spray". Dumb f*cks. You showed restraint there dude, Kudo's.
BTW-Saw you sunday afternoon around 3:30 in the channal, yelled at ya but guess you didn't hear....even the lady next to me was yelling to help me :D One or two peeps in you boat turn to look but probably didn't recognize me. Next time.

[MagicMtnDan]

There's got to be something that boaters can do about lake lice that are doing stupid/a-hole manuvers and endangering law abiding boaters.
I've been thinking about this and haven't yet come up with a suggestion other than something like this (not sure it has any value):
Maybe we should take down their CF or AZ numbers and general description. And then we post it on a thread here and talk to law enforcement? Maybe Boat Cop can help us with suggestions that won't put boaters in jeopardy (throwing oranges or slingshotting items at them sounds great but if you put an eye out or make them crash they can sue you - and they will - and make our lives worse).
There's got to be something we can do as a "group" to make this issue an even higher priortiy. And you would think (alright, I would) that we would matter to the local communities and to local lake/river law enforcement (maybe I'm dreaming but folks like us who bring real dollars to these lake/river areas have to matter).
Anyone have any suggestions or ideas other than chasing them down and beating them in front of families and friends (and risking getting beaten up by a group of PWC'ers in front of our families and friends)?

[VillainDave]

The last time that happened to me I used a water cannon and blew the son of a b^&%$ch right off his ski!

[SCUBA STEVE]

Ziggy:
Steve, bummer she didn't fall near you and catch some verbal fallout for her stupid moves. I've seen it done and they think its just funny shit cause most are smiling back at you like "aren't you gonna say thanks for my spray". Dumb f*cks. You showed restraint there dude, Kudo's.
BTW-Saw you sunday afternoon around 3:30 in the channal, yelled at ya but guess you didn't hear....even the lady next to me was yelling to help me :D One or two peeps in you boat turn to look but probably didn't recognize me. Next time. Where you on the one yelling at me to slow down? lol :D I heard a group of ladies yelling at me as I made the turn from the bridge to the channel "no wake, slow down" I felt like taking out my weeekend frustrations on them. :D I was probably going 1 or 2 mph too fast, but sh** they acted like they were channel security. I would like to see them drive a jet through the channel at only an idle speed. :(
where you on the north side of the bridge though?
One of my crew members said someone was calling for me over there, I looked and asked who it was, she said it was someone with a hat waving, I didnt see who she was talking about & kept going. If that was you or not, sorry I missed you.

[SCUBA STEVE]

RiverDave:
SCUBA STEVE:
miller19j:
Once again Steve you amaze me with your restraint and cool head. We need more boaters like you.
We have all had run-ins with uneducated PWC operators. If these people knew that what they were doing was wrong I bet 90% of them would not act that way. Education is the key to safer waterways for all of us. I am a big advocate for a mandatory boater education for both PWC’s and Boaters. We all need to know the rules! Thanks Miller, but I think I am starting to sound like a wuss now. lol :D Well I didn't want to say anything.. LOL :D
RD RD, are you starting w/me! I think you need a good kick in the Junk. lol :D

[Mrs.909er]

It was nice seeing you guys out there, maybe next time we can hang out for a little while?

[miller19j]

riodog:
Miller, while I generally consider your words of wisdom to be amoung the most level-headed and reasonable on the boards this time I have to disagree. We DO NOT need restraint, tolerance, and education. We need to teach these self-centered irresponsible assholes some RESPECT! I for one have had it with this turn the other cheek BS because it DOES NOT accomplish anything. Growing up, my mom used to tell my brother and I, "little boy's that don't listen gotta feel", know what she meant? Yeah, well, it's time we hurt a few of them! I don't care if it's physical or in the wallet it's time they learned some respect!
I'm aware of the fact that I'm probably one of the more radical members of the boards but I just don't believe that I or anyone else has to put up with behavior on the water that endangers the lives and well-being of everyone else.
Some NON-LETHAL suggestions might be... string a rope across whatever cove or wherever you're parked with an anchor on each end. A paint-ball gun- mark the vessel for later ID. Looking down the barrel of a 12ga flare-gun takes the fight out of the biggest a-hole out there and if you really "feared for your life or that whomever was an 'imminent danger', go ahead and burn a hole in um. It's time we took back from those that have taken it from us!
Rio Lmao….Someone considers my blather “Words of wisdom” You just made my day.
I understand what you are saying and believe me I feel the same way. But if Steve were to go track down this idiot and open the can of whop ass (witch he is more than capable of) that would just land him in jail and have very little affect on the lake lice. Not to mention what it would do to his children having to see that all take place. I think the he made the right decision.
But you are absolutely correct we need to do something. I just don’t think that the vigilante approach is going to get us anywhere.
In my opinion the only real solution is Education and then enforcement. These jackasses should be ticketed when they are doing 360’s around the no wake zone buoys or bearing down on boats! I would never get away with that crap in a boat.

[SCUBA STEVE]

RiverDave:
A kick in the junk might do me some good.. LOL
RD lmao... :D
You must think it will do you some good, you even double posted it. :D
[ August 05, 2003, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: SCUBA STEVE ]

[SCUBA STEVE]

Mrs.909er:
It was nice seeing you guys out there, maybe next time we can hang out for a little while? It was nice to meet you too. Even though it wa a quickie. LOL :D Why was mr 909er hanging around the lagoon? You already had the trailer in the water. :confused:

[Ziggy]

SCUBA STEVE:
Ziggy:
Steve, bummer she didn't fall near you and catch some verbal fallout for her stupid moves. I've seen it done and they think its just funny shit cause most are smiling back at you like "aren't you gonna say thanks for my spray". Dumb f*cks. You showed restraint there dude, Kudo's.
BTW-Saw you sunday afternoon around 3:30 in the channal, yelled at ya but guess you didn't hear....even the lady next to me was yelling to help me :D One or two peeps in you boat turn to look but probably didn't recognize me. Next time. Where you on the one yelling at me to slow down? lol :D I heard a group of ladies yelling at me as I made the turn from the bridge to the channel "no wake, slow down" I felt like taking out my weeekend frustrations on them. :D I was probably going 1 or 2 mph too fast, but sh** they acted like they were channel security. I would like to see them drive a jet through the channel at only an idle speed. :(
where you on the north side of the bridge though?
One of my crew members said someone was calling for me over there, I looked and asked who it was, she said it was someone with a hat waving, I didnt see who she was talking about & kept going. If that was you or not, sorry I missed you. Nope, I'd never tell someone to slow down in the channal unless its one of them dumb PWC'ers. They seem to be the only culprits in that regard :D Just saw one doing it moments before in Thompson Bay(father-n-son). You'd think they'd have a clue since they're the only ones haulin' ass thru there.
I was south of bridge on the island side near the bathrooms. Yeah, I was wearing a hat and waving like "wonderama". Next time, it'll happen sooner or later. Ironic thing was we were parked directly accross channal from another boat with the same name as yours.

[Ziggy]

SCUBA STEVE:
RiverDave:
A kick in the junk might do me some good.. LOL
RD lmao...
You must think it will do you some good, you even double posted it. :D Maybe he thought the post was Boozers thinking it said Lick not kick
:D :D :D

[Mrs.909er]

SCUBA STEVE:
Mrs.909er:
It was nice seeing you guys out there, maybe next time we can hang out for a little while? It was nice to meet you too. Even though it wa a quickie. LOL :D Why was mr 909er hanging around the lagoon? You already had the trailer in the water. :confused: I was waiting for everyone to move the hell out of the way. :mad: Once I backed the trailer in some dumb chick was waiting for her husband to get the truck/trailer. She was right in the way....so Andy had to turn around and come back...finally I had enough ...so I asked the lovely lady to move argue It took us like 30 mins to do all of that. We didn't end up leaving Crazy Horse until like 2:30. If we would have know you guys were gonna be coming we would have gone out on the water Sunday...oh well...next time.

[SCUBA STEVE]

Ziggy, was it a yellow older boat? My daughter pointed it out to me. I wasnt even really looking for anyone when I cruised the channel. I was fricken starving and wanted to get some grub!!
Mrs 909er sorry you had some drama at crazyhorse. frown

[Ziggy]

SCUBA STEVE:
Ziggy, was it a yellow older boat? My daughter pointed it out to me. I wasnt even really looking for anyone when I cruised the channel. I was fricken starving and wanted to get some grub!!
You know, I think the one I saw was blue but had an I/O...
LOL, you did look like you were on a mission, FOOD! Did you stop to get food somewhere? I went towards Thompson Bay to see if you beached it somewhere, didn't see ya and headed back toward Windsor.

[SCUBA STEVE]

My timing got all thrown off out there.
By the time we got back from topac it was later then I had planned.
We knew someone that was staying at the nautical thats where we parked & ate after we went through the channel. :cool:

[Boatcop]

The registration numbers and a good description will give us all we need to cite or arrest the offender. As long as you are willing to come to court and testify to their actions.
We get reports of reckless PWCs almost every weekend. The problem is the description is usually a "white and blue jet-ski". No make, numbers, or any other info. At any given time there are probably 30-40 "white and blue jet-skis" on the river. Kinda hard for us to narrow it down.
Other times we get a good description, find the PWC, and the reporting person doesn't say who they are doesn't want to be bothered with testifying or doesn't want to "get them in trouble", just want us to "talk" to them.
The judges take the word of the ordinary citizen testifying to anothers recklessness even more than ours. The law based upon what a "reasonable person" believes is reckless. And by law, police are not "reasonable persons".
Please don't take matters into your own hands. Courts look down on vigilante justice, and I hate to have to arrest an "innocent" boater for felony assault because they spiked a PWCer with a full beer can, while only charging the PWC with a minor misdmeanor of Reckless Operation.
That being said, we can always hope Darwin's theory culls the herd. Case in point:
Last Sunday night about 9:00 PM a PWC leaves Sundance, northbound on the River toward Holiday Harbor. Full speed (according to witnesses) into the cliff at River Island State Park. Driver lived but won't walk for several months. I'm waiting on the blood test from the crime lab, but I'm sure it'll be at least 3 times the .08% limit.
Luckily he was alone and ran into a cliff, instead of another boat, and no one else got hurt.
I hate to see anyone injured (or worse) while boating. But some people deserve what they get.

[SCUBA STEVE]

Thanks Alan.
I know in my instance my wife said lets get the cf #s and my first thought was its not worth the hassle, thinking nothing could be done. But now that you shed some light on it, I know everyone of my crew members including myself would have testified. :cool:
[ August 05, 2003, 03:37 PM: Message edited by: SCUBA STEVE ]

[CA Stu]

Boatcop:
Last Sunday night about 9:00 PM a PWC leaves Sundance, northbound on the River toward Holiday Harbor. Full speed (according to witnesses) into the cliff at River Island State Park. Surprise! :)
Seriously, that sucks. I have often wondered how many people have kissed that rock at warp speed over the years...
That's one benefit to getting older, you get that stupid 20-cans-of-courage shit out of your system, and if you're lucky, you come out of it with just some scars and a couple of good stories.
CA Stu