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NavyJetMech
11-03-2003, 05:48 PM
Please help identifying motor and jet:
Just boat a jet boat while overhauling a 65 sanger flat bottom v-drive.
All I know is:
California boat manufacturer: 1976 ski boat
Engine is labeled as a Panther 360. Looks like an AMC 360 block, does anyone know anything about these? How much horsepower? Reliable?
Jet drive is labeled as “maritec” (I know nothing about jets) Is that the brand? Is it reliable? Where to get parts? Anything compatible with other jet drives?
Thanks
Frank

Tim_T
11-03-2003, 06:12 PM
Some pics would help. From my minimal experience, every jet i have seen with a 360 amc has had a panther jet. Thats about all i could tell you without a picture.

NavyJetMech
11-03-2003, 06:25 PM
Thanks Tim, here is a pic of the jet. is it reliable?

1Bahnerjet
11-03-2003, 06:28 PM
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/43PANTHER-med.jpg
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NavyJetMech
11-03-2003, 06:50 PM
Thank you guys for responding. Looks like it's not much to write home about. Well, at least it will pull a skier while I'm overhauling the v-drive. It's 17', hoping I'll do at least 40 mph
Boaters rock. One of the few sports in the world where we are genuinely friendly/helpfull. especially when we are spanking the boat next boat us.

1Bahnerjet
11-03-2003, 07:05 PM
17' ? Bet its a Haskell.
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NavyJetMech
11-03-2003, 07:40 PM
no idea, title just says manufactured by california...here is a pic

bordsmnj
11-03-2003, 11:25 PM
looks simaler to a 78 sleekcraft i used to have. i thought i had a 73 untill i pulled the gas tank and the label said manufactured for sleekcraft-1978. if it's a bow tank use a mirror dentist style and a flash light maybed there's a label that say's" manufactured for_____." my label was right next to the sending unit and fuel outlet cap.(centered and toward the rear on the top side)

waterslinger
11-04-2003, 05:46 AM
Dude, I know it is a black sheep but that AMC motor will make gobs of power with good prep work. If you can find the parts
make her a 401. I am out of the loop now but still have a soft spot for AMC's

old rigger
11-04-2003, 07:04 AM
navy jet,
my guess would be a Hornet. It's kinda hard to tell from one pic, but it looks like one of Marty Hatchels smaller offerings. He used, althought not exclusively, lots of the AMC/panther power combos. He also bought his name plates 'Hornet' straight from the local AMC dealer. I don't know what his vin # started with, but Jack Mc would know. He was friends with him and Martys 19 footer ended up being a 'Liberty' after much re-working, among many other copies. Post the same question over on Banderlog or the RJB board, Jack hangs out over there.
That windshield is the wrong one for that boat by the way. That boat shouldn't even have one, but that one's off a 16' Sidewinder/Tahiti Tarino.

Keithb87
11-04-2003, 09:27 AM
My Uncle-in-law was getting 72 MPH out of a OMEGA 454 with that same jet.

pops1
11-04-2003, 10:04 AM
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Slip n' Slide [/B][/QUOTE] You Guy's are Wild- The Catalogs you have kept "Blow Me Away"- Good Job.
I had that motor in my first AMC Javilin 2 seater coupe, with 4 on the Floor, the car caught everyone off guard in its release the next year it was destroyed in looks and weight. It was a strong runner back then. Also it became the only engine available to the Brickland or DeLoran as GMC backed out of providing the engines, not sure which way it happened.

old rigger
11-04-2003, 10:21 AM
hey pops,
I remember those Bricklins. Schuster bought a bunch of them when they first came out. Maybe he traded boats for 'em, I dunno, but they were a pile of crap. None of them ever ran right,
and he was always having them worked on. Doors would't close right, and the doors seals (gull winged doors) never sealed either.
Car had zero quality contol when built, and that's one of the reasons the thing flopped.
You're right, they did have AMCs at first, but switched to a 351 Ford after the second year when AMC couldn't keep up the demand for engines. I guess AMC was on it's last legs too at about the same time?
I think he bought them for a future investment, couldn't give them away! ouch

Jet City
11-04-2003, 01:30 PM
That AMC/Panther combo may not be extremely exiting, but it should be a very reliable unit. I have no idea what power level that 360 has but back in '71 AMC made a car you may recall, an "SC/360 Hornet", those little cars ran hard and I'm sure surprised a few unsuspecting Chevy/Ford/Mopar guys. The AMC 290, 304, 343, 360, 390 and 401 are of the same design (a lesson Ford could have learned). There is a special section on banderlog for Panther's that may be helpfull.

old rigger
11-04-2003, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Jet City Rebel
[B] The AMC 290, 304, 343, 360, 390 and 401 are of the same design (a lesson Ford could have learned).
You mean like Fords 352, 360, 390, 400, 410, 427 and 428 FE's. Or Fords 260, 289, 302, 351 small blocks?
You're right about the amc/panther combo. I've never met anyone that didn't like that little set up that had one.

LakesOnly
11-04-2003, 08:05 PM
n/m

Squirtcha?
11-04-2003, 08:43 PM
I ran into a guy at one of our local lakes that had the same engine/pump combo. His boat wasn't quite as deep a V as the one you bought, but he was pulling skiers all over and claimed (if memory serves) 58 mph. He'd done a little work to the motor but it was still a single carb and through transom exhaust. I saw him stomp on it pretty good one time and it seemed to get up n go pretty alright. Couldn't swear to his claim of 58 mph though.