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MagicMtnDan
11-19-2003, 11:05 AM
Michael Moore was greeted by cheering crowds in Germany where he told one audience “What Bush is doing now is similar to what Hitler was doing in his early days,” according to Deutsche Presse-Agentur.
Meanwhile, the German mag Der Spiegel blasted Moore’s latest book, “Dude, Where’s My Country?” as incoherent and rambling and “little more than a redundant rehash of his overly familiar superficial view of the world and his overly inflated opinion of himself” but went on to say that “anti-American sentiment is running so high in Germany right now that the book cannot help but zoom right to the top of the best- seller list.”
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Blown 472
11-19-2003, 11:18 AM
And here in lies the irony of your statement, fighting a war for freedom and democrocy and yet kick someone out for questioning it?? hummmmm

HOSS
11-19-2003, 11:29 AM
I never did like that fat fag! Bring that porker to me. I`ll roll him in flour and make him beg for his momma!
:mad: :mad: :mad: drive home:mad: :mad: :mad:

Blown 472
11-19-2003, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by HOSS
I never did like that fat fag! Bring that porker to me. I`ll roll him in flour and make him beg for his momma!
:mad: :mad: :mad: drive home:mad: :mad: :mad:
Woodcha look for a wet spot?:p

MagicMtnDan
11-19-2003, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
And here in lies the irony of your statement, fighting a war for freedom and democrocy and yet kick someone out for questioning it?? hummmmm
Hey B, you're taking my statement (title of the thread) literally and that's my fault. I should've said something like, "hang this unpatriotic, anti-American from his balls until his head explodes!" or some other angry remark.
It should be a law that bars a citizen from returning to this country if he/she goes to a foreign country and makes speeches filled with anti-American bile. The wars we fought and the people who died or were injured protecting this country and its ideals were not done to permit anti-American hatred spouted off on foreign soil.
The guy's a POS and shouldn't be given opportunities to shout out his hatred for this country...in my opinion.

Blown 472
11-19-2003, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
Hey B, you're taking my statement (title of the thread) literally and that's my fault. I should've said something like, "hang this unpatriotic, anti-American from his balls until his head explodes!" or some other angry remark.
It should be a law that bars a citizen from returning to this country if he/she goes to a foreign country and makes speeches filled with anti-American bile. The wars we fought and the people who died or were injured protecting this country and its ideals were not done to permit anti-American hatred spouted off on foreign soil.
The guy's a POS and shouldn't be given opportunities to shout out his hatred for this country...in my opinion.
I agree, just stirrin tha shit.

HOSS
11-19-2003, 11:37 AM
I won`t be toasting marshmellows.:mad:

MagicMtnDan
11-19-2003, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
I agree, just stirrin tha shit.
That much is clear :D

Dave C
11-19-2003, 11:58 AM
I agree. Don't you think its the least bit treasonous to go oversees and spew anti-american hate?
After all they can do that here all they want and they can get away with it because its free speech. But rallying foreign powers against us is wrong.
Penn should be locked up too.

fourspeednup
11-19-2003, 12:51 PM
A few years ago, Moore did some very good investigative reporting through his website and I enjoyed his video on Flint Mich. Now he's just trying to get attention and has gone extreme. Looks like it is working, got quite a rise here.:wink:
I agree that it is very anti-american but he can do whatever the hell he wants and it don't matter if we approve or not:rolleyes:
---four(used to like the guy and thinks our laws are a little goofy)speed

HOSS
11-19-2003, 12:53 PM
I agree that he can do as he wishes, but man I personally believe he is using very poor judgement.

fourspeednup
11-19-2003, 12:58 PM
Judgement is no longer a factor in his career decisions unless it concerns his own net wealth:rolleyes:

Catmando
11-23-2003, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
Hey B, you're taking my statement (title of the thread) literally and that's my fault. I should've said something like, "hang this unpatriotic, anti-American from his balls until his head explodes!" or some other angry remark.
It should be a law that bars a citizen from returning to this country if he/she goes to a foreign country and makes speeches filled with anti-American bile. The wars we fought and the people who died or were injured protecting this country and its ideals were not done to permit anti-American hatred spouted off on foreign soil.
The guy's a POS and shouldn't be given opportunities to shout out his hatred for this country...in my opinion.
Where do you see Moore saying ANTIAmerican things or spewing ANTIAmerican hatred? He said BUSH. You're making the typical Reich-wing mistake of equating George Bush with America.
Michael Moore grew up in Flint, Mi., a General Motors town, and railed against Roger Smith, then the GM CEO, for destroying his town. He did something for America; what have YOU done lately but run your right-wing mouth?:mad:

malcolm
11-23-2003, 11:01 AM
Imagine, getting the President mixed up with America!!
:D Cat, you commie! :D

twistedpair
11-23-2003, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Catmando
He did something for America; what have YOU done lately but run your right-wing mouth?:mad:
He did what for America? Made a bad movie and got himself famous? I personally can't stand the liberal crap that you or he spew, but I thank God every day, that I live somewhere where it is legal to voice your opinion, no matter how misguided.

AzDon
11-23-2003, 01:31 PM
I think Michael Moore should run for president so that the things that need to be said about Bush, his policies, and his performance WILL be said! He wouldn't survive the primaries, but having a vocal critic that is as far-left as Bush is far-right would make the more sensible candidates (Kerry and Clark) more appealing to the open-minded, centrist voter!

Dr. Eagle
11-23-2003, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Blown 472
And here in lies the irony of your statement, fighting a war for freedom and democrocy and yet kick someone out for questioning it?? hummmmm
Yeah, even assholes like Michael Moore can have their opinion thanks to free speach here. If GW were like Hitler, Mr. Moore would have been shot and his books burned. Screw that moron...!!!
What bothers me is he gets to broadcast his BS because he is a part of the "Hollywood elite". I hate that douche bag...:rolleyes: :yuk: :rolleyes: :yuk: :rolleyes: :yuk: :rolleyes: :yuk:

Dr. Eagle
11-23-2003, 02:05 PM
Now ask me what I really think.......:mad: :D

sidewound
11-23-2003, 05:43 PM
Dr. E, What do you really think?
Peace Man!:cool:
CESAR

Seadog
11-24-2003, 07:44 AM
I get a kick out of A$$don talking about centrist views. His idea of centrist is Marx and Lenin. As far as Moore goes, he is the poster child for birth control and freedom of choice. I just wonder how that mouth came out of the womb.

Kilrtoy
11-24-2003, 08:25 AM
revoke his pasport and keep him there,
Also when i saw that attachment with HOss
I got scared, It was close but just a little harder.....

eliminatedsprinter
11-24-2003, 11:12 AM
M. Moore scripts and stages phoney events and then puts them into his "documenteries" as if they are real. He is a proven liar and a fraud and he has no place in the legitimate exchange of ideas. Since he is not an honest example of any ideology.

SchellSchock
11-24-2003, 02:49 PM
Moore does what seems to be a standard for left wing jerk offs, (read PETA, Jane Fonda, Sierra Club, Jesse Jackson, Catmando, AzDon, etc.), which is...
He pulls shit out of his ass, then calls it fact, and has enough money to publicize it until the Dumb Ass Liberals (read PETA, Jane Fonda, Sierra Club, Jesse Jackson, Catmando, AzDon, etc.), believe it is the gospel. I believe 100% in everybody having the right to voice their opinion right or wrong. That does NOT mean we have to stand by and believe it.
Moore is living proof of why some animals ."Eat Their Young"
**** Him and anyone who agrees with him

Dr. Eagle
11-24-2003, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
revoke his pasport and keep him there,
Also when i saw that attachment with HOss
I got scared, It was close but just a little harder.....
If the Constitution didn't get in the way I'd agree. Let the Eurotrash keep that loser....:(

AzDon
11-24-2003, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Seadog
As far as Moore goes, he is the poster child for birth control and freedom of choice.
What the hell is wrong with freedom of choice or birth control? Perhaps you want the government making all your choices for you? And without birth control, we would all probably have a bunch of kids that we couldn't afford !
If you like totalitarian dictatorship, just follow your druggie mascott, Rush Limpdick in his worship of the Bushies and we will soon have all the important choices made for us!

MagicMtnDan
11-24-2003, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
What the hell is wrong with freedom of choice or birth control? Perhaps you want the government making all your choices for you? And without birth control, we would all probably have a bunch of kids that we couldn't afford !
If you like totalitarian dictatorship, just follow your druggie mascott, Rush Limpdick in his worship of the Bushies and we will soon have all the important choices made for us!
Don, Don, Don...you liberals need to mellow out! Used to be the conservatives who got all riled up - now it's you liberal, free-thinking, free-to-choose, free-to-be-me, free- health-care, free-drivers-licenses, free-food, free-everything-for-those-who-don't-work who are all worked up and angry. (Take a look at the protests around the world and see how "liberal" your people really are).
You're so angry you're lashing out and calling Rush and Bush names and screaming about the "threat of totalitarianism" while you and all your left-wing liberal buddies want socialism like they have in Europe and Canada.
Why don't you put your energy into getting a Democratic presidential candidate who is (a) electable, (b) can put together a cohesive and intelligent position statements on (c) a balanced platform? YOUR party has at least 8 clowns who couldn't win anything more than a local election. Why don't you call them names? Why don't you just pick up the phone and call them and tell them to get their $hit together! THEY ARE YOUR REAL PROBLEM for you and your socialistic left-wing liberals - THEY'RE THE REASON BUSH WILL BE PRESIDENT FOR 4 MORE YEARS! :D :D :D :eek: :eek: :eek:

AzDon
11-24-2003, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Seadog
I get a kick out of A$$don talking about centrist views. His idea of centrist is Marx and Lenin.
The irony of throwing words like "Marxism", "socialism", "communism", "liberalism", etc. is that there is a lot of the best of how our society operates defined by these concepts. The most successful example of a "sociailist" program is public schools. They have enabled us to provide a universal opportunity for literacy that's not contingent on ability to pay. And when you get hurt or become jobless, unemployment and disability insurance can save you from financial ruin....both "socialist" programs!
"Communism" is a term that is almost interchangeable with "socialism", and , as a concept, is about providing needed infrastructure or services "communally, or as a community that would not be affordable to community members individually, and thus, would be unattainable!
For the record, I don't believe you'll find where I've ever said I thought Marx or Lenin were centrists by my definition, but I should point out that in their place and time, they became powerful because they convinced majorities that they were "people's" people and were more sympathetic and aligned with the common man (in other words centrist)
Clark and Kerry , as well as the REAL WINNER of the last election, Mr. Gore, and John McCain are all far more qualified candidates than Bush! They have REAL credentials, REAL backgrounds, and have paid REAL dues, including distinguished stints in Vietnam. By contrast, Mr Bush has never held a job that didn't merely trade on his family's influence.
If you would mindlessly waste your vote on Mr Bush, it proves that you don't pay attention and buy into the Bushie BS!

AzDon
11-24-2003, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
free-food, free-everything-for-those-who-don't-work
I deplore anybody getting something for nothing and have continually said so, Yet I am continually accused of supporting "something-for-nothing" schemes! It just proves to me that some folks don't read, think, and discuss, but merely categorize, label and stereotype!
I have also said that ALL hard-working people in our society deserve a civilized minimum standard of living and a lot of "every- person-for-himself" types feel threatened by the concept of fair wages!
And the REAL REASONS Bush will be elected are 1) Corporate America loves this guy even while holding their personal funds out of the stock market.... they have put more campaign money than the other candidates combined could ever hope to raise.
2) The Bush election machine knows how to rig a close election and BS the results if it's not close enough!

Thunderbutt
11-24-2003, 07:12 PM
If Moore is a trader to our country for speaking out aginst Bush. What would that make Rush during the Clinton years