ceramic coating?

[TRG]

has anyone heard of ceramic coating a block? and would it be expensive? todd

[wsuwrhr]

umm...why?
Brian

[TRG]

well,...like headers it does not retain heat like chrome,.. so, would this retain heat as paint would?.. or more so? todd

[Racing Ray]

Todd
Ceramic coatings come in a variety of types. Some designed to attract heat others to repel heat and some for dissapating or spreading out heat some for lubrication purposes. Why not read up a bit about it from the innovators. The guys from Jet-Hot used to work for them and spun off to create Jet-Hot shame they did it before they had all the technology.
Techline Coatings (http://www.techlinecoatings.com/)

[TRG]

but if im not mistaken , jet hot is completely different than ceramic coating, correct? from what ive gathered,...jet hot is formulated to retain heat? and ceramic coat is to dissapate heat?

[TRG]

135 views and 5 posts? what the hell? surely im not the only one who has thought of doing this? any input would help!

[Jet City]

Todd, as far as I'm aware Jet-Hot is an HPC coating which I beleive is ceramic. I have owned a set of Jet-Hot coated Hookers (stirling silver) and was extremely pleased with both their quality and even more so the customer service, I dealt with a guy named Steve. I looked on their site and they do offer a couple header coatings in black, you might consider giving Steve a call and asking what he recomends, oh and if you mention you are a member of camaroz28.com you will most likely get a discount.
http://jet-hot.com/pages/headercoatings.html

[HOSS]

The block is steel. Aluminum disappates heat quicker.
Now for the real deal. You don`t want to keep heat in correct? Coating the motor with anything including paint will act as a insulator thereby holding heat. There are water passages incorporated in the block for heat dissippation. Water acts as a heat transfer. Do you not wish to run water through your block? If your having a heating problem you need to address the cooling system.
In laymans terms,,,It would serve no benefit to ceramic coat your block as far as cooling or power gains goes.
I`ve used coatings on rods, pistons, lifter valley, crank, ect. Now this is worth the money! More hp. Proven!

[Jet City]

Somehow I completely missed that you were asking about coating a block (put down the hooka), I have seen some blocks that were coated, seems like money better spent elsewhere to me.

[Racing Ray]

Todd
Jet Hot is ceramic coating it is what is called Alumacote by Techline. Same product. Jet Hot or Alumacote are good at tempatures of up to 1400 degrees. The Black Satain coating is good to 1800 degrees. The only part of your block holding heat in would be of any value is the top of the cylinders to aid in better combustion by retaining heat in that area. Personally I agree with Hoss on it's best applications.

[victorfb]

i would think the reason todd was asking, is that it would look cool and aid in rusting. i dont think he was looking for a performance gain from it. to tell you the trueth, i think it would look pretty cool, especially if you polished it out a bit. though im painting mine.:p

[Racing Ray]

I like just plain gray like my engine pictured in the avatar.

[TRG]

actually, my only concern was that i wanted to paint my block, but have noticed in the past that the paint had always cooked at the heads, so if my headers dont peel (cook)?... then my heads wouldnt either.right? and if im coating my heads, why stop there?, just do the whole block!
not having any problems with the cooling though.
thanks for the info! todd

[HOSS]

Why not powder coat it? That looks bitchin` on motors. I learned over the years to paint my motors black.:cool:

[TRG]

well shit, if you say powder coat it why not just chrome it! now were back to it being an insulator,...are'nt we?

[HOSS]

No! Chrome actually dissapates heat quicker than a painted surface. When I talk of insulators what I`m referring to is anything added to the surface of the block would act as an insulator. Go ahead and have your block chromed. But don`t say I didn`t warn ya. Bring a fat ass wallet. Powder coating ain`t all that expensive anymore. More and more people are doin` it. powder coating is a really durable finish.
As far as being at square one,,,,your original post wasn`t all that informative on what the **** you were looking for. So any cockyness is taken by me as you being an asshole.:p

[haulina29]

As i said in the vdrive thread aluminum coating a block does nothing to the temp either way but chrome a block or heads and your are screwed been there done that dont work . Mitch ;)

[TRG]

listen hoss ,im not going to drop my pants and piss a distance with ya,... im only asking the question because i dont want it to peel away and have a burned look around the heads. When you said to powder coat, i figured that it would burn like paint considering that it is baked at around 400 deg. Now my new question to you is,...do you think that powder coat would burn on the heads at the exhaust ports? if you say PC will not burn or flake ,then i will consider your advise, of PC!
im only looking for some advise to make a motor look as good as it possibly can, & "NO",...i would never chrome a motor (block), i was just being a "SMART ASS"! todd

[TRG]

thanks for the input mitch! the thought of chroming was never a thought! todd

[FoMoCo]

What kind of paint are you using? I always use car paint. I either use Urathane or Base clear. the cool part about this is that you can macth any color. Its really strong. I paint every motor this way and I have been running my motor hard for 2 seasons and it has just a slight dicoloration on the exhaust side of the head.
You cant tell from this picture, but the color of the block is the same as the Kandy trim on the boat
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/389Carb5.jpg

[Dave C]

I agree with FOMOCO. I painted two blocks with car paint and they did not chip and crack.
It was a bitch getting them clean before painting though.

[HOSS]

My urine is a great solvent.:D

[powerplay230]

OK this isn't that far off subject. Don't laugh but a great high temp paint (comes in black only) that is very cheap (hmmm like me) is the stuff they use to paint BBQ grills with- inside and out. Holds up to the heat and cleans up easy, if it gets really trashed just spray with a little 409, scrub and hose off. Heads, intakes, valve covers, engine compartments on older cars.. Ok no more penny pinchers from me, doesn't quite fit in in the world of 700 horse BB's.
Rich