Cable or DSL? [Archive] - RiverRacer.Net

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by LASERRAY
DSL pales compared to cable. Don't know much about sattelite access though.......................?:confused:
DSL is ok, uses your phone lines of course. We have more issues with DSL speeds than I like. Cost is high on DSL, we get a break as long as we keep our home phone.
Once cable modems are available here, we drop both DSL and home phone. We have enough cell phones here, so who needs a standard phone line.

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by JetBoatRich
DSL is ok, uses your phone lines of course. We have more issues with DSL speeds than I like. Cost is high on DSL, we get a break as long as we keep our home phone.
Once cable modems are available here, we drop both DSL and home phone. We have enough cell phones here, so who needs a standard phone line.
Yea! Lets screw Ma Bell altogether! No connections! It'll be total Anarcy!!!

Kilrtoy

11-27-2003, 12:02 PM

so who needs a standard phone line.
WE DONT NEED NO STINKEN PHONES

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 12:06 PM

Cable still uses phone company to get into the internet, we just don't need subscriber lines.

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by JetBoatRich
Cable still uses phone company to get into the internet, we just don't need subscriber lines.
They Do??? Ah That's It, I Quit!!!!!::mad:

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 12:09 PM

forget it, I quit too.:mad: :mad:

Craig

11-27-2003, 12:10 PM

I have Qwest DSL at home. If I download a video or something from here, it downloads at about 100k/sec. Here at work we're on an old T1 and I see about 140k/sec. What do you see with a cable modem?

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 12:13 PM

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 12:13 PM

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by Craig
I have Qwest DSL at home. If I download a video or something from here, it downloads at about 100k/sec. Here at work we're on an old T1 and I see about 140k/sec. What do you see with a cable modem?
My cable modem is much faster than T-1 line. Less than the maximum of the system but well over 2mbps. Just like a LAN it varies based on the amount of users on the system.

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 12:56 PM

Cable Modem Rocks! I got frustrated with dsl. I guess i'm spoiled.

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
My cable modem is much faster than T-1 line. Less than the maximum of the system but well over 2mbps. Just like a LAN it varies based on the amount of users on the system.
If the cable company monitors the system, should not matter how many people are hooked up:)
Unfortunately, not enough of them keep up with growth and they have periods where they out grow the network. That is when it slows down.

LASERRAY

11-27-2003, 01:06 PM

Cable modem is like a power circuit in series/parallel. The more loads(users), the more bandwith is consumed. So basicly, if your at the end of the line, it matters not. You should receive the same bandwith as the other users, but all loads will slow down equally.

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 01:13 PM

Depends on the cable system and their architect. Some systems will guarantee a speed or sell different package speeds. Could go on, but that would bore you.:D keep it simple, competition will make each of them improve their networks to keep up with demand or we go somewhere else

Kilrtoy

11-27-2003, 01:50 PM

I have time warner
And when the computer geeks come over they are amazed at how fast it is.
They then check all the speed and stuff and flip out
i dont understand but they say Im basically running on the speed of a T3 line........
Ok so us men can understand
You have a twin turbo Porsche on nitro

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 02:00 PM

Kilrtoy, they have a good HSD syetem over there. One of my friends is in charge of Technical Operations overf there.

Kilrtoy

11-27-2003, 02:34 PM

Ever since I switched over . It like TV how fast stuff downloads and uploads.
Of course some systems are slow, so that slows me down.....

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I have time warner
And when the computer geeks come over they are amazed at how fast it is.
They then check all the speed and stuff and flip out
i dont understand but they say Im basically running on the speed of a T3 line........
Ok so us men can understand
You have a twin turbo Porsche on nitro
T-3 = 145 Megabits per second
Cable Modem = 100 Megabits per second, but you share with anyone connected to your network ring.
Usually you get 2 to 3 mbps, sometimes more like DSL speed at 800 Kbps or so. I have never seen mine below this speed though.

GlastronGuy

11-27-2003, 03:20 PM

Frosty_pop

11-27-2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by JetBoatRich
Cable still uses phone company to get into the internet, we just don't need subscriber lines.
Not true!!!!!!
I have a cable modem and no phone..... comes through the tv cable and I don't have cable tv

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Frosty_pop
Not true!!!!!!
I have a cable modem and no phone..... comes through the tv cable and I don't have cable tv
Back at the cable headend/hob they get feeds from phone companies. Not at your house.

svlperry

11-27-2003, 03:54 PM

cable if u can it's the best

Jbb

11-27-2003, 04:00 PM

I have Cable and Love it ....speedy...!
Test your connection speed for free
Here (http://www.bandwidthplace.com/)

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Frosty_pop
Not true!!!!!!
I have a cable modem and no phone..... comes through the tv cable and I don't have cable tv
Most simply put,
Internet = phone system
The phone system includes all of the cross country fiber optic lines, copper and to a much lesser extent microwave radio transmission.
it is AT&T, SBC, Sprint, MCI, et al, and a host of independents all networked together..ahhhhaaa, Internet....!
It is the "Last Mile" connection that makes home phone competition and internet provision so expensive.
Cable companies utilize their coaxial cable in the ground just like a large Local Area Network in an office. The signal is modulated at about 1ghz frequency on the cable, it is 100mb ethernet. They are connected back into the gigantic network pipes in the ground from the cable head end to the local point of presence.
Cable network boxes in your neighborhood house the equipment that handles the electronic duties of the local network.

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 04:41 PM

Nice Job Dr. Eagle, simplified at its best:D

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 05:07 PM

Thanks JBR. I have my moments.....:D ;)

bigq

11-27-2003, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
T-3 = 145 Megabits per second
Cable Modem = 100 Megabits per second, but you share with anyone connected to your network ring.
Usually you get 2 to 3 mbps, sometimes more like DSL speed at 800 Kbps or so. I have never seen mine below this speed though.
Actually a T3 is 45 and an OC-3 is about 145Mb.
Most cable services starts at 1.5 Mb. I have DSL at 1.5/128, been good so far had it about 3 years.
Unless things have changed the cable runs in series as stated and everyone shares the bandwidth on that run. DSL is on a switched network to the house.
Both are good as long as I never need to go back to a dial up I am a happy man.

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by bigq
Actually a T3 is 45 and an OC-3 is about 145Mb.
Most cable services starts at 1.5 Mb. I have DSL at 1.5/128, been good so far had it about 3 years.
Unless things have changed the cable runs in series as stated and everyone shares the bandwidth on that run. DSL is on a switched network to the house.
Both are good as long as I never need to go back to a dial up I am a happy man.
Geeeze you right. I don't know where that number came from must be that friggin old age again. 1 DS-3 or T-3 =28 T-1s at 1.544 mb/s. We used to use 3 DS 3 digital microwave radios which totalled 135mb. OC-3 is 155mb/s. Gotta sweep out those cobwebs...

Kilrtoy

11-27-2003, 06:53 PM

Damn My wife said,
If I have a pp then I cant get a 69 and it will beover b4 time........
What the hell is all that stuff.....

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Damn My wife said,
If I have a pp then I cant get a 69 and it will beover b4 time........
What the hell is all that stuff.....
It is a bunch of telephony/network BS Kilr...
Seems if you don't use it for a while you forget the finer points...guess you could say the BS gets stale...!

Kilrtoy

11-27-2003, 07:05 PM

I did that test and it said I was running at 1.3 is that good.
Mys ervice rips.
All I know is it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than the T1 line at work

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I did that test and it said I was running at 1.3 is that good.
Mys ervice rips.
All I know is it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster than the T1 line at work
My cable modem runs around 1.3 as well. I have had up to 3 before, but only on occasion.

JetBoatRich

11-27-2003, 07:17 PM

My DSL is up and down on the speeds, last test was around 680, :o

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by JetBoatRich
My DSL is up and down on the speeds, last test was around 680, :o
only about half as fast as cable modem, but about 11 or 12 times faster that the fastest dial up...:D :D

Jbb

11-27-2003, 07:28 PM

1.9...zoom zoom...:D

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 07:58 PM

you guys got me curious, 2.301 slammin!!!:jawdrop:

BigBoyToys

11-27-2003, 09:02 PM

We ran both the cable and DSL at the same time to test the difference. We purchased the 768k cable svc which was comparable priced to the ADSL. Cable fluctuated from 500k-700k and the ADSL stayed consistent at 1.5mb. almost a T1 speed:D Guess ya know which we kept....ADSL ;)
Now then, wanna throw around some more numbers and acronyms?:rolleyes: :eek: :D LOL....J/K. I'll keep it simple;)
My dialup server, that's a whole new issue for another time:cool:

DaveA

11-27-2003, 09:37 PM

Adelphia Powerlink cable modem
North Carolina
Speed: 4.7 megabits per second
Communications: 4.7 megabits per second
Storage: 574.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download: 1.8 seconds
Subjective rating: Awesome
Nanny nanny boo boo!

Dr. Eagle

11-27-2003, 10:01 PM

Good on ya bro, course no one lives in North Carolina...Kidding...kidding...kidding...:D
That is one of the faster speeds I have heard of. Pretty killer for surfing...
I need to check my desktop because I am running my laptop on wireless. The desktop may be faster still!

Dr. Eagle

11-28-2003, 06:35 AM

Just checked mine and it is running 2.61 Gbs right now.
Pretty cool!

1stepcloser

11-28-2003, 07:50 AM

Cable rules!
I have adelphia, runs at 2.6 damn near every time I check.
That shit is fffaaasssttt

HammerDown

11-28-2003, 07:57 AM

Oh yea...Verizon dial-up here...well at least it's faster than a booger sliding off a frozen door knob:rolleyes:

LASERRAY

11-28-2003, 08:44 AM

I'm using a 14.4k dial-up and it KICKS ASS! Van Halen Rules! Married with children is my favorite show! I love my new compact disc machine, it only cost me $500.00! Mike Tyson will be the best boxer ever, and his marriage to Robin Givens will last forever! I'm so happy for them. OOOOpppppsssss!!! I'm sorry, I thought I was back in 1988!:D :D :D

bigq

11-28-2003, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by BigBoyToys
We ran both the cable and DSL at the same time to test the difference. We purchased the 768k cable svc which was comparable priced to the ADSL. Cable fluctuated from 500k-700k and the ADSL stayed consistent at 1.5mb. almost a T1 speed:D Guess ya know which we kept....ADSL ;)
Now then, wanna throw around some more numbers and acronyms?:rolleyes: :eek: :D LOL....J/K. I'll keep it simple;)
My dialup server, that's a whole new issue for another time:cool:
no more numbers, that last post of mine hurt my cranium.:eek:
Does anyone know how some dial ups are getting faster speeds that 56k, I think it is like double or something., but still only using dial up.Are they multiplexing some way or what?

BigBoyToys

11-28-2003, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by bigq
no more numbers, that last post of mine hurt my cranium.:eek:
Does anyone know how some dial ups are getting faster speeds that 56k, I think it is like double or something., but still only using dial up.Are they multiplexing some way or what?
It's not a true dialup. FCC regulates dialup speeds at 53.3k. There are a few software programs that say that they speed it up but I've never used them. I can even make a dialup "Look" like it's getting 115k but in reality, it's not. Years ago I also tried using 2 modems on 2 phone lines but I don't remember how that worked. AN ISDN line is B channels but you would need a ISDN router/modem to make it work.

DaveA

11-28-2003, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Good on ya bro, course no one lives in North Carolina...Kidding...kidding...kidding...:D
I Wish. Tell it to all the Yankees frum NY and PA and OH comin' down here to take our jobs and our wimmin. Gotta few frum Kalifornika showin' up frum time to time too. :D
They call our soft drinks 'PoP'. Watz Up wif dat?:rolleyes:

Dr. Eagle

11-28-2003, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by DaveA
They call our soft drinks 'PoP'. Watz Up wif dat?:rolleyes:
If they pronounce it PAHP, you know they are from Minnesota...:D

hislittleho

11-28-2003, 09:42 PM

Hi Laray. How are you ? I hope fine.
I have DirecTV ( the best ) :) :) :)

LASERRAY

11-28-2003, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by hislittleho
Hi Laray. How are you ? I hope fine. I have DirecTV ( the best ) :) :) :) Well looky here. We thought RD scared you away. How and where you been?

hislittleho

11-28-2003, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Well looky here. We thought RD scared you away. How and where you been?
You were suprised??? I was never gonna leave forever. I have been gone for the holidays. But I am back!!!!:D And I missed you most!:D Happy to be Home

LASERRAY

11-28-2003, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by hislittleho
You were suprised??? I was never gonna leave forever. I have been gone for the holidays. But I am back!!!!:D And I missed you most!:D Happy to be Home Nice. Just show us your rack!!!:D :D :D

hislittleho

11-28-2003, 10:11 PM

Oh by the way "RD" scare me? Please you should have heard his
voice when I called him. I thought he might have shit his pants:D :D ;) ......Just playing RD ...But you were surprised. Right?
:D

LASERRAY

11-28-2003, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by hislittleho
Oh by the way "RD" scare me? Please you should have heard his
voice when I called him. I thought he might have shit his pants:D :D ;) ......Just playing RD ...But you were surprised. Right?
:D OOOOOOOHHH!!!!! Nobody talks that way about the Great and Powerfull OZ!:rolleyes: