Do I need a 4X4 [Archive] - RiverRacer.Net

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 04:46 PM

We are thinking about buying an 03 F250 or 350 tommorrow.
Do I need a 4X4. Its a 3500 Bump over 4X2. We just use this truck to drive the boat to and from the river , lake.
The wife wants a 4X4. Her reasoning is because the tires slipp sometimes. Well I explained thats because its a F150.
Need feed back....

clownpuncher

11-28-2003, 04:59 PM

I like em. Right now I have an 01 F250 4x4 with the 7.3 diesel. I don't use it that much, but, it's nice to have the capability to pull a steep wet/muddy launch ramp without any drama. Cost all the way around is higher (fuel, insurance etc) but it was always worth it to me. Tows nice too

JetBoatRich

11-28-2003, 05:10 PM

I bought a 2004 F-350 Dually a couple months ago. Nice to have the 4X4 when needed. Every now and then we even get snow up here.
My insurance difference was only $80 a year, so it was worth it.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/78MVC-144L-med.JPG

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 05:14 PM

Nice looking truck, You look like an undercover cop shooting radar on the 14. You trying to catch speeders

Elk Chaser

11-28-2003, 05:16 PM

02 F350 CC PSD 4x4 here.....
Yup 4x4 is a good thing to have on the ramp occasionally. I can only think of one time in 10 years when I needed it though and it was nearly (no it was) an off road and very steep ramp. Up here where I live we need a 4x4 just to get home or move the horse trailer up the drive sometimes so it is pretty much necessary to have it.
If I were living in an area with no snow then my honest choice would be a 2x4 DRW. DRW for more payload and better handling when towing anything and 2x4 for better milage and lower initial cost. I have SRW now cause DRW's get stuck in the snow and mud too easy.
OH, and get a diesel.... I'll never go back to a gasser ever again as long as I live.
http://ftw.truckmoxie.com/gallery/Elkchaser/336905.jpg

JetBoatRich

11-28-2003, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Nice looking truck, You look like an undercover cop shooting radar on the 14. You trying to catch speeders
That was taken off the 58, on the test drive out of Mojave. Which vehicle are you thinking about?

ratso

11-28-2003, 05:18 PM

My dad always thought it was stupid to buy a 4x4, which is all I have ever owned. He has needed me a few times to pull him out of a few predicaments he has gotten himself in to. I was away for about 6 months a few years back and I told him to drive my truck so it wouldn't be sitting around. When I came back I was ready to trade for another new one and he asked if he could buy my truck. Now he won't drive anything else. I have been running the diesels since 94 but just bought a new Dodge 2500 regular cab 4x4 with the hemi, and I really like the way it runs...

Back To Havasu

11-28-2003, 05:23 PM

I would recommend a 4X4. At the prices of today's vehicles, the extra cost is not that much. I bought mine on the theory that I'd rather have it even if I don't use it very often, than spend all that money for a new vehicle and realize later I should have gotton the 4X4 option. Just my $.02.:)

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 05:24 PM

Thanks guys for all your imput,
the dealer by my house has a red I HATE RED, but f250 PSD 4x4 for 35K.....Im almost wanting to go back.........
i need blue to match the boat and IF(KEY WORD) if we buy a new boat it will have blue in it.

HammerDown

11-28-2003, 05:31 PM

Just as long as it's not the 1'st generation 6 liter motors.

Nubbs

11-28-2003, 05:57 PM

In my opinion, you don't need 4WD to launch your boat. But if I was buying that pickup, I'd sure get the 4WD. But, it's your money, not mine. Good luck with whatever you get. Either way you'll have a nice pickup.

BADBLOWN572

11-28-2003, 06:29 PM

I have an 03 F-250 with the diesel and I love having 4x4. I have used it a bunch of times. Either on a slick ramp or even more out in the sand. I head to Dumont and Glamis freequently and out there it is a must have. There is nothing that I havent been able to get out of where most 2wd trucks need to get towed out. If you buy the diesel I get about 18mpg around town and 22 on the Hwy. Usually when towing my boat I get around 15-16 depending on how fast I tow. I will never own another truck that is gas or is not a 4x4. Only way to go!

sidewound

11-28-2003, 06:56 PM

Three blocks to the ramp where I live!
Laugh if you will! Bought this for 5 bucks and it does the job DANDY for me.
I just leave it hooked up. Plus the three on the tree KICKS ASS! I feel like Uncle Jesse!
Even got a sixer of "Uncle Jessies WHUPASS" in the deal!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/114100_0115-med.jpg
Thought ya might get a giggle outta dis!
If I gotta go more I use my 1/2 ton chevy (2wd). I've spun some tire but then again I wouldn't think of launching on a sand ramp or somthin. Got a good one three blocks away. What the Hell?
Peace Man!:cool:
CESAR

Froggystyle

11-28-2003, 07:40 PM

I bought a 2WD that looks like a 4WD!
In all sincerety though, I have had nothing but 4x4's for the last several years, and never clicked it on once. I figured if I didn't need it then, I don't need it now.
Somebody told me once that if you have a 2WD, you will get stuck as soon as you turn off into a muddy field. If you have 4WD, you will get stuck WAY out in the muddy field!

sidewound

11-28-2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Froggystyle
I bought a 2WD that looks like a 4WD!
In all sincerety though, I have had nothing but 4x4's for the last several years, and never clicked it on once. I figured if I didn't need it then, I don't need it now.
Somebody told me once that if you have a 2WD, you will get stuck as soon as you turn off into a muddy field. If you have 4WD, you will get stuck WAY out in the muddy field!
TO QUOTE MY FATHER "If it's bad enough that I need 4-wheel drive to get there then I guess I don't need to go there!"
Peace Man!:cool:
CESAR

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 08:09 PM

Thanks for alls imput.
well see the sale ends at ford on sunday

Keithb87

11-28-2003, 08:11 PM

Hey Kilrtoy I always say " you can never have too many toys."
Get the 4x4 :D ;)

Mandelon

11-28-2003, 08:17 PM

I would say go for the 4x4 too. We have a 4x4x Suburban and enjoy taking it up to Mammoth for ski trips. It pleases me no end to pass by those suckers laying on their backs in the cold dirty ice while they put on their chains. :D :D :D
It helps for camping and baja trips too. My current pickup is not 4x, but my next one will be. :cool:

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-28-2003, 08:32 PM

you need a 4x4 and you also need to buy a chevy.. :D :D :D
J/K if you feel you are going to need it just buy it.. don't think twice about it.. if you don't get it you will regret it later when you do need it you wont have it. :D

Keithb87

11-28-2003, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by sidewound
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/114100_0115-med.jpg
Dude Mine is Black and Rust. '73 F-100 XLT. :D :D

sidewound

11-28-2003, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by Keithb87
Dude Mine is Black and Rust. '73 F-100 XLT. :D :D
COOLNESS!
Peace Man!:cool:
CESAR

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 08:56 PM

This is what im getting rid of.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111AB_7318_003-med.JPG

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-28-2003, 09:01 PM

you better keep her.. she looks too good.. or are you talking about the f*&ked up ford.. buy a chevy not a ford..

Boozer

11-28-2003, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
This is what im getting rid of.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111AB_7318_003-med.JPG
You give the truck to the dealer and the girl to me. I assume you're getting rid of both or are you just being misleading?
Why the f$CK you going to get another FORD? Get a dodge Kiltroy! Dodge 2500 with cummins diesel.
If it's not a dodge its not worth buying.

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 09:20 PM

My buddy has a 3500 diesel DODGE, Is that right , dually crew cab, awesome, you can feel the power, but the ride almost jolted my teeth out of my head......
After being in that truck for a 10 minute ride I had the worst headache........ No thanks,
Mrs vee we prefer first class, so well pass on the CHEBY and ride is style FORD....

JetBoatRich

11-28-2003, 09:27 PM

Traded in the Suburban for the ford truck:D
First class, get the truck you want. :cool: the old truck looks great to

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 09:32 PM

Double post OOPPSSS

JetBoatRich

11-28-2003, 10:01 PM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Double post OOPPSSS
double post 10 minutes apart:rolleyes:

cc322

11-28-2003, 10:10 PM

Go with the 4x4. You are also making the right choice with the ford . But dont think the ride is going to be smooth because it is not but it is a truck good luck.

Kilrtoy

11-28-2003, 11:06 PM

Yes, I saw it on the screen and hit it.
I had already done that, Im a ***** but not CHEAP......

LASERRAY

11-28-2003, 11:27 PM

YES on Proposition 4x4.

Boozer

11-28-2003, 11:42 PM

Oh yeah i almost forgot. 4x4 will let you launch amd load with bald tires.
I got good tires now though so i may not need the 4x4 for that but uhhhhh.... u ever go anywhere with snow and youll be wantin that 4 wheel drive. Pretty incredible what a difference those extra 2 wheels make in the snow.

75_Elim

11-28-2003, 11:43 PM

Kilrtoy,
What year is your Ford? and how many miles? I'm trying to figure out how long these triton motors will last.
I have a 98 F150 Ext Long Bed that I bought brand new and it now has 100K miles on it. I've yet to have a problem and have always run synthetic in it, but I'm getting nervous about the miles. Each morning on my way to work I pass Valley Park Ford on Topanga Cyn and those new trucks are calling my name :D I also pass Rydel and they have some really nice (much higher HP) Chevy trucks to tempt me!!
As for 4 x 4...... Somebody else will always have one if I really need it :D For me it's about comfort and 2 x 4's are much nicer.

hislittleho

11-28-2003, 11:46 PM

every man needs a 4 X 4. Get the 4x4 !!!!

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 12:25 AM

Its a 2002 with 17K
its a great truck real head turner, but as far as towing, JUST MY OPINION it sucks, I know im in the minority. but my Exped towed way better and got better gas milage. I get about 12 around town and 7 when towing......
Little ho Its for the little lady, I drive a motorcycle....
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111AB_7318_003-med.JPG

JetBoatRich

11-29-2003, 08:40 AM

Jerry, I had 145,000 miles on my old 2000 F-150 4X4. I used to commute 160 miles round trip to work, so the miles are mostly freeway. The truck is still going strong with the new driver. Never has as much as an oil leak, pulled the boat fine.
Personally I thing you are due for a bigger truck and should drop the dime:D

MagicMtnDan

11-29-2003, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
This is what im getting rid of.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111AB_7318_003-med.JPG
Nice headlights!

MagicMtnDan

11-29-2003, 08:55 AM

You said you liked your Expedition and you also want the best ride so your choices are:
1. Chevy Suburban/GMC Yukon XL
2. Chevy Tahoe/GMC Yukon
3. Chevy Avalanche
4. Hummer H2
Don't get a pickup truck - they ride like crap compared to the four listed above (and even your Expedition)
Forget Ford - waste of time and money :D If you must then get an Expedition or an Excretion ooops Excursion

Badboat1

11-29-2003, 08:58 AM

Power Stroke is the only way to go
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/31Dsc00293-med.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/31Dsc00292-med.jpg

jbtrailerjim

11-29-2003, 10:03 AM

Kilrtoy,
I have a Supercrew like yours and I love the way it pulls my boat but I have never towed with an Expedition. Do they really tow that much better? My Dad has 2003 F250 crew cab 2 wheel drive V10 and he tows his 26ft. Sleek Craft and has had no problems launching his boat. I do like the looks of the 4 x 4 better though. Not sure if it's worth the extra $$$ for it though if your not going to hardly ever use it.

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 10:18 AM

Am I wrong or does FORD still own the Cummins motor?
And chevy\GMC cant touch the Powerstroke nor the Dodge!!!!!!!

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by cc322
Go with the 4x4. You are also making the right choice with the ford . But dont think the ride is going to be smooth because it is not but it is a truck good luck.
B.S. The new ford rides like a caddie! I agree with ya on the FORD

JetBoatRich

11-29-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by likwidsukr
B.S. The new ford rides like a caddie! I agree with ya on the FORD
I have no complaints on the ride, very comfortable.

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Its a 2002 with 17K
its a great truck real head turner, but as far as towing, JUST MY OPINION it sucks, I know im in the minority. but my Exped towed way better and got better gas milage. I get about 12 around town and 7 when towing......
Little ho Its for the little lady, I drive a motorcycle....
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111AB_7318_003-med.JPG
Kilrtoy, Did u decide not to get a blower set-up for it just get a new one? Hell yeh! Go with PS Ford 4x4 I have a 1998 My Father has a PS Dually kingcab that rides like a dream!
Later Steve

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
You said you liked your Expedition and you also want the best ride so your choices are:
1. Chevy Sucks!!
2. Chevy Tahoe/Sucks.GMC Yukon
3. Chevy Avalanche-Sucks Also it is f-ckin ugly!!!!
4. Hummer Over priced see #1
Don't get a pickup truck - they ride like crap compared to the four listed above (and even your Expedition)
Forget Ford - waste of time and money :D If you must then get an Expedition or an Excretion ooops Excursion
Quote That is better!!!!!!!! LMAO

Outnumbered

11-29-2003, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
My buddy has a 3500 diesel DODGE, Is that right , dually crew cab, awesome, you can feel the power, but the ride almost jolted my teeth out of my head......
After being in that truck for a 10 minute ride I had the worst headache........ No thanks,
Mrs vee we prefer first class, so well pass on the CHEBY and ride is style FORD....
Kilrtoy,
What makes the ride harsh in that truck is the fact that it is a 1-ton 4x4 with a sold front axle. If you buy a 1-ton or 3/4 ton Ford Superduty you will get the same harsh ride. The only 1-ton with independent front suspension is the GM. And it still rides way harsher than any new 1/2-ton ie F-150. Those trucks (3/4 & 1-ton) are made to pull big-ass trailers and carry heavy payloads. If you are looking for comfy-cushy ride forget the 3/4 and up. Why not just get a 1/2 ton 4x4? Cushy ride, better re-sale than a 4x2, no problems at the ramp, go skiing/boarding whenever without putting on chains.
That would be my pick if I were you.
OL

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:28 AM

Kilrtoy, Did u decide not to get a blower set-up for it just get a new one?
I went down to the shop and talked to the guy, He basically talked me out of it. he said headache. Plus I have to rebuild the tranny to handle all the HP. So I figure the guy who makes his living selling that stuff told me to save my money i might as wlell get a new ride....
Towing.
Expedition up the 15 thru the pass with the boat 90MPH
F150 cant get passed 60.
Hell that sucks....
Big difference

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 11:37 AM

so kilrtoy did you get a new truck or are you still looking.. ;)

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:46 AM

Just woke up:frown:

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 11:47 AM

lazy bones.. :D :D

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:48 AM

I havent been able to sleep for some reason, I went to bed at 4:45
and the night before 5:30
and im not even taking naps.....
Yes I am bored at that hour

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 11:48 AM

are you taking any meds.. :confused:

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:50 AM

No, I just cant sleep
this is gonna be trouble come tuesday when I have to get up at 5:30

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 11:50 AM

have more sex and work at gettin tired it should help.. :D :D

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:53 AM

with who myself, she is at work everynight

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 11:54 AM

catch her in the morning while your still up.. :D

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
have more sex and work at gettin tired it should help.. :D :D
It works for me!!!!!

Kilrtoy

11-29-2003, 11:55 AM

im gone right when she gets in....

likwidsukr

11-29-2003, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
with who myself, she is at work everynight
Well, There goes HOSS'S wake up call!!!!! LOL

MRS FLYIN VEE

11-29-2003, 12:00 PM

LMAO!! Hoss in town???? :D :D

buck183

11-29-2003, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by jbtrailerjim
Kilrtoy,
I have a Supercrew like yours and I love the way it pulls my boat but I have never towed with an Expedition. Do they really tow that much better? My Dad has 2003 F250 crew cab 2 wheel drive V10 and he tows his 26ft. Sleek Craft and has had no problems launching his boat. I do like the looks of the 4 x 4 better though. Not sure if it's worth the extra $$$ for it though if your not going to hardly ever use it.
I would base the opinion on facts before claiming the world.
Read this http://ftw.truckmoxie.com/visit.asp?http://ftw.truckmoxie.com/visit.asp?http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/stories/2003shootout/page1.html
Now tell me why that new Cummins is so bad? Looks to me like the Chevy didn't do so bad compared to the Dodge. I would surely think they could make a better showing than that. But I maybe wrong.
Buck
Buck