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Kindsvater Flat
12-07-2003, 12:02 PM
Last night some good friends of ours lost there son. Kyle was 13 yrs old and one hell of an athelete. He was always involved with sports.
From the day he was born he has battled asthma. Everything he did was a challenge to get through it without having an attack. As the years went by he seemed to be out growing it. First he could only get through one inning of little league and eventually could play the whole game. Last night he had an attack and afterwards he said he was cold. Its going to be a rough xmas for his family and friend that were close.

OSUman
12-07-2003, 01:22 PM
I am very sorry to hear that losing anybody is very hard. Our prayers are with you and them.

ratso
12-07-2003, 01:31 PM
That is terrible, nothing worse than losing a child...

Dr. Eagle
12-07-2003, 01:34 PM
My son had a bad case of chronic Asthma growing up and I dreaded just such a thing happening to him. I remember the 3am trips to the emergency room to get him treated, having him turn blue on the way and wondering if he would make it to the hospital. Fortuantely, he did grow out of it...
I am truly sorry for the loss of one so young, terribly, terribly sad. My thoughts are with you and your friends family.

MagicMtnDan
12-07-2003, 01:42 PM
What a terrible tragedy! My condolences to the family.
Asthma seems to getting worse as far as the percentage of the population that has it and the severity of asthma problems. My wife has it and I worry a lot about her having a severe attack. She now has one of those breathing machines so she doesn't have to go to the hospital to get a treatment (we've been there many times before). But I still worry - she gets sick more often than most people and her colds and flu are worse because of it. She always has to carry an inhaler and a backup just in case.
It's very sad to hear about a young child dying because of asthma! Especially at the holidays...

JetBoatRich
12-07-2003, 02:06 PM
How sad it is to read about your friends young son. My heart goes out to them. What a terrible thing to happen anytime, especially with the holidays right in front of us.

Kilrtoy
12-07-2003, 02:21 PM
Oh MY GOD that sends chills down my spine. Sorry to hear that
My sons name is KYLE and he suffers from really bad asthma.
We let him play sports but never run around for more than a few seconds. he also has bad attacks and we also visit the hospital at unspeakable hours. I understand there pain and that is my biggest fear in life....

FMluvswater
12-07-2003, 03:21 PM
I care. I just don't know what else to say.
~FM

THOR
12-07-2003, 03:54 PM
I can't imagine:(

Kindsvater Flat
12-07-2003, 04:07 PM
Its still very hard to believe when he looked so healthy. My stepson also has asthma and we have all kinds of meds plus the breathing machine. I went as far as keeping portable med kits w/ oxygen in her car. Sent the wife through the first responder training to have a better grasp in case something does happen. Who would think that asthma would be that dangerous. It will be awhile before we find out the true cause but still feel bad since Kyle was such a big part in a small farm community.

Mandelon
12-07-2003, 04:09 PM
That's awful. So tragic. Asthma rates are climbing seriously over the past few decades.
There are so many chemicals in our homes and schools, from carpet, clothing, and building materials. Even molds too that cause different individuals respiratory issues..they wear down your immune system leaving you weaker and more susceptible to illness.
My son is 10 and has mild asthma, we have the machines and inhalers all over the house. :( Sucks to be a sick kid. :(

Keithb87
12-07-2003, 04:18 PM
Thoughts and Prayers to all ..

Kindsvater Flat
12-07-2003, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Mandelon
That's awful. So tragic. Asthma rates are climbing seriously over the past few decades.
There are so many chemicals in our homes and schools, from carpet, clothing, and building materials. Even molds too that cause different individuals respiratory issues..they wear down your immune system leaving you weaker and more susceptible to illness.
My son is 10 and has mild asthma, we have the machines and inhalers all over the house. :( Sucks to be a sick kid. :(
Since the wife and her 2 kids have moved here to the ranch, Adam has done very well with his. The attacks are few and far between now.

Kilrtoy
12-07-2003, 05:25 PM
we have spent alot of money to put
Windows in the house
Re-paint the interior
New carpet on the way
Change the Air-con vent every two months with special vents
Upgraded the air conditioner
Air purifiers run constantly
breathing machine always ready
Lots of medicne in the house.

058
12-07-2003, 06:19 PM
Mike, My sincere condolences to the family and friends. A tragedy indeed.

Catmando
12-07-2003, 06:55 PM
Kilrtoy your new carpet is going to trap chemicals and organisms that contribute to asthma. Since we put ceramic tile down my wife's attacks have diminished greatly.
Also buy powdered vitamin C and give it to him in his juices and other food. That will help.

JetBoatRich
12-07-2003, 07:02 PM
I don't want to take anything away from this thread. I feel so bad for them.
When we lived in the South Bay, my Daughter and I both were diagnosed with Asthma. Since moved to our present location, no signs at all of the illness.

24ROD
12-07-2003, 07:04 PM
Very sorry to hear this. He will be in my prayers tonight.

Keith E. Sayre
12-07-2003, 07:58 PM
I can't even imagine losing a child. Nothing could compare.
Keith Sayre

LHC30Victory
12-07-2003, 08:06 PM
Our hearts and prayers go out to the family.
When my 18yr old son was just 6months, a co-worker lost his son to SIDDS. The anquish I put myself through being so close to that tragic event was terrible, but certainly no comparison to the real loss.
If there is anything that can help, PM me.

Kindsvater Flat
12-07-2003, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by LHC30Victory
Our hearts and prayers go out to the family.
When my 18yr old son was just 6months, a co-worker lost his son to SIDDS. The anquish I put myself through being so close to that tragic event was terrible, but certainly no comparison to the real loss.
If there is anything that can help, PM me.
Thanks. I notice your patch. I have made lots of friends in the CDF and USDF being a volunteer fire chief. What happened last night was 2 miles out of my area so I didn't receive the tone out. I have no idea how I would be if I responded.
Sometimes things are just to close to home.:(

missboatnam1
12-07-2003, 09:22 PM
i dont understand, how sad!! what happened? iv never heard of someone dying from ashma......that is scary shit!!my kids all have it so do i!!! i never took it so seriously as far as death!!
that is so sad!! now a days so many people have ashma, and its getting worse everyday!
my prayers go out to all of them.....

Kindsvater Flat
12-07-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by missboatnam1
i dont understand, how sad!! what happened? iv never heard of someone dying from ashma......that is scary shit!!my kids all have it so do i!!! i never took it so seriously as far as death!!
that is so sad!! now a days so many people have ashma, and its getting worse everyday!
my prayers go out to all of them.....
I'm wondering the same thing. Maybe there was something else but I have only known about the asthma. From what I was talking to the family about is that he had an attack and was on the couch. He told his mother he was cold and she went and got a blanket. When she returned he had passed. Fire and paramedics worked for over an hour trying everything they could.

Kilrtoy
12-07-2003, 09:49 PM
People die of ASTHMA all the time, That is serious stuff.
People always take it lightly
they should really educate themselves about it.
You can have an attack and die very quickly.....

Coach
12-07-2003, 10:01 PM
Sorry to here of their loss.
I have lived with Asthma my whole life and it has progressively gotten worse as I have become older. I am a chronic asthmatic who uses an inhaler 2 twice a day everyday my whole life. I have had some bad attacks before but have never thought of it as life threatening. It is becoming increasingly worse here in CA and other areas. Many doctors do attribute it to the weakening of our immune system. We are given so many immunity shots our immune system never really has had to strengthen itself so Asthma has become more prevalent. It is always good to keep and epi-pen near by for Asthma attacks as well. The shot of adrenaline with help open the airways until you can get the proper medication. Once again another triadic loss of young person, very sad.
:(
Asthma is the leading serious chronic illness among children. Most children have mild to moderate problems, and their illness can be controlled by treatment at home or in the doctor's office. For some children the illness becomes a formidable problem causing numerous visits to the hospital emergency room and multiple hospitalizations.
Asthma is the third leading cause of hospitalization among children under the age of 15 and it is the first-ranking chronic condition.
There were close to 658,000 pediatric emergency room visits in 1999 due to asthma. The estimated annual rate for emergency room visits among children under age 5 is 137.1 per 10,000--the highest rate of all age groups.
Asthma accounts for 14 million lost school days annually. It is the leading cause of school absenteeism attributed to chronic conditions.
The estimated annual cost of treating asthma in those under 18 years of age is $3.2 billion.
Asthma breathing problems usually happen in "episodes,"but the inflammation underlying asthma is continuous. An asthma episode is a series of events that result in narrowed airways. These include: swelling of the lining, tightening of the muscle, and increased secretion of mucus in the airway. The narrowed airway is responsible for the difficulty in breathing with the familiar "wheeze."
Asthma medications help reduce underlying inflammation in the airways and relieve or prevent symptomatic airway narrowing. Control of inflammation should lead to reduction in airway sensitivity and help prevent airway obstruction.
Two classes of medications have been used to treat asthma--anti-inflammatory agents and rescue medicines or bronchodilators. Anti-inflammatory drugs interrupt the development of bronchial inflammation and have a preventive action. They may also modify or terminate ongoing inflammatory reactions in the airways. These agents include corticosteroids, cromolyn sodium, and other anti-inflammatory compounds. A new class of anti-inflammatory medications known as leukotriene modifiers, which work in a different way by blocking the activity of chemicals called leukotrienes that are involved in airway inflammation, have recently become available.
Bronchodilators act principally to dilate the airways by relaxing bronchial smooth muscle. They include beta-adrenergic agonists, methylxanthines, and anticholinergics.
Asthma is characterized by excessive sensitivity of the lungs to various stimuli. Triggers range from viral infections to allergies, to irritating gases and particles in the air. Each child reacts differently to the factors that may trigger asthma, including:
respiratory infections, colds
allergic reactions to allergens such as pollen, mold, animal dander, feathers, dust, food, and cockroaches
allergic reactions to pollen, mold, animal dander, feather, dust, food
vigorous exercise
exposure to cold air or sudden temperature change
cigarette smoke
excitement/stress
exercise
Secondhand smoke can cause serious harm to children. An estimated 200,000 to one million asthmatic children have their condition worsened by exposure to secondhand smoke.

dmontzsta
12-07-2003, 10:41 PM
I just got back from a funeral, my GFs uncle (42 y/o) suddenly passed, he had a massive heartattack. Now I come hear and read this.
My thoughts and prayers are with the family, I cannot begin to imagine what it is like. I just ask that god be with them through these rough times.

rrrr
12-07-2003, 11:35 PM
My thoughts are with the family. That is terrible.
Life goes away so quickly....
I found out a couple of days ago a family friend had died after bypass surgery, she was only 62 years old. Her grossly overweight condition killed her, and she had tried so hard over the years to overcome it. Such a shame, she loved the holidays and her daughter had just gotten pregnant.
Tonight I was out at our lake house doing some work, it is just a hundred yards off a two lane highway. I heard a bunch of sirens, saw that traffic was stopped, so I walked over to the highway for a look-see.
A four door Chevy had hit a late model Ford F 250 4 X4 that was parked on the shoulder at highway speed. The driver of the Chevy was dead, his body had to extricated from the car and was laying on the grass next to the remains of the vehicle.
God Bless those that lose loved ones in this terrible, unexpected manner. I still think about the Herberts almost every day.

Her454
12-08-2003, 07:14 AM
My prayers go out to the family. Asthma is very scary and people do not take it serious enough sometimes.

MsDrmr
12-08-2003, 09:12 AM
my son of 10 after having it from birth, was diagnosed only a year ago is now on a daily medication to help control it. It is a horrible thing to watch our children suffer, much less loose the fight against it. our sympathy goes out to his family.

Miss BK
12-08-2003, 12:54 PM
I am so sorry to read this sad story. Asthma is so dangerous but many people don't take it serious enough. My sister's best friend appeared to be healthy, but used an inhaler twice a day. At work, she realized she forgot her inhaler at home and drove off to get it. Nobody was that concerned at first, but when she didn't return right away, they became alarmed.
When she wouldn't answer her cell phone, they went to her home and found her car in the driveway - she was still sitting in the drivers seat with the car still running. She never made it inside the house. Cause of death: asthma attack.
I agree with Coach above. Every year the government is pushing new vaccines on us, and I honestly feel it is causing our immune system to go haywire. Now we have flu shots and chickenpox shots. Next thing you know there will be a runny nose shot.
Immunity-altered diseases like asthma, lupus, diabetes type 1, Graves disease, Addisons, Crones disease and rhematoid arthritis are rising at an alarming rate. I honestly feel the vaccines themselves have created this alteration. IMO - If our bodies don't learn how to fight off an illness the natural way - (by using our own anti-bodies) - then the immune system will just remain weak and we'll become ever more dependent on vaccines to protect us.

dimarcobros
12-08-2003, 01:05 PM
I couldn't even begin to imagine what your freinds are going through at this time of year. I am very sorry to hear that and my heart goes out to them.
DMB

Sherpa
12-08-2003, 06:09 PM
very sad to hear the boy's passing....... my wife has asthma, and
had it pretty bad as a young child..... her parents not really grasping what was wrong only could buy those premix inhalers
from the drug store.... they did very little so she says....
swimming is an excellent sport for people with asthma.......
there are places that are HORRIBLE for asthmatics.....
Austin Tx is one of them. my wife was on sooo much meds just
to breathe, we had to move away from there....
--Sherpa

BGMAN203
12-08-2003, 06:16 PM
Sorry to hear that, my prayers go out to the family.

victorfb
12-08-2003, 06:40 PM
i am so sorry to hear about the tradgety. my heart and prayers go out to the family.
Kilrtoy... im sure youve allready done it but if not, go have your child tested for all the things he/she is allergic too. as a child i had very bad asthma and spent many days in oxygen tents. 10 days in a row once. i cant imagine how hard it was on my parants. but they took me to a specialist that did a very simple test and we found all the things that i was alergic to. we ended up removing ALL the carpet in the house. (great for skateboarding in the house. the walls were all messed up 4 inches high:p ) i also recieved shots 2 times a week then tapering off untill no more shots were needed. about a years worth. but ive got to tell you, it helped big time. the attacks basically stopped. every now and then when i mowed the lawn id get a bit weezy, but a very mild pill took care of it. if i really needed fast relief the primatine worked, but that stuff is way to powerful for what i needed. i am now 38 and thank god have seemed to outgrow it completely. but i think the testing and shots were they main reason. all of you parents that have asthma striken children, i highly recommend it. we dont want to hear any more of these terrible stories.