JakeAisA
12-08-2003, 10:44 AM
This is my reply to another Catmando this morning. I, JakeAisA, is Busti's son and I'm new to this forum. I have already learned first hand of Catmando's reputation as an instigator, a liar and pea brain. Here's my reply to him, his original attack is below:
Catmando:
You're an Objectivist? Really? I don't believe it. If there's anything Objectivists stand for it's class...and you show no class when you insult the military and totally disregard there approval their Commander in Chief.
But regardless, what military record are you talking about? The guy was in the National Guard and flew jets. Every commanding officer he ever flew under regarded him as a leader and a highly skilled pilot. I'm assuming your "war record" means that his not fighting IN Vietnam makes him a draft dodger? Thats absurd and you know it. Are you talking about his early discharge? Are you claiming he went AWOL, because that's just false too? Bush received an eight month early discharge to go to Harvard; the same discharge Al Gore obtained to leave six months early to go to college for either Law School with, or Seminary school, I forget actually because he flunked out of the first and quit the second, so it doesn't really matter. Besides, in 1972 when both Bush and Gore received their discharges, Nixon wasn't drafting people anymore. So whats your claim? Neither received preferential treatment because they were "privileged"; virtually everyone who requested these early discharges for college received one. Are you talking about Bush's war record in Afghanistan and Iraq? We're talking about wiping out two of the bloodiest regimes in history, with less then 500 causalities combined--you cannot be serious if you're including this in his "war record".
You're not an objectivist. You're as much of an Objectivist as Bill Maher is a Libertarian. If you're against wiping out terrorists and terrorist sponsoring states, you cannot be an Objectivist. Protecting Americans from their enemies is the primary function of Government--the most important of only three Constitutional and moral functions of government--according to Objectivist thought and the Constitution itself. You are not an Objectivist, sir. Did you know that it was the Ayn Rand Institute's conclusion that preventative war with Iran has been warranted since the early 80's? Have you ever heard of Leonard Peikoff? Did you know he suggested the use of Nuclear Weapons against Iran if we ever found Iran to possess Nuclear Weapons themselves...pre-911!? I bet not. You're a leftist who doesn't want to be called a Leftist.
Now, when you say "Arm yourself with knowledge of your hero before you open your mouth about the intelligence of those who have" and "Read about Chimpy McFlightsuit and his military record...Read about his business record...His college record" do you actually think you're conveying ideas? These are not ideas; these are empty insults. You didn't tell me anything about Bush's war record; you told me to read about it on my own. You didn't try to discredit the military's overwhelming support of Bush; you called him "Chimpy McFlighsuit". You didn't explain Bush's business record or his college record either because you don't know yourself. You're a leftist, you hate Bush, you're stupid and you're a liar.
I don't understand why you Leftists hate Bush so much either: he's signing today the largest domestic spending increase since the New Deal with this "Medicare Drug Benefit", he's drastically increased the budget for an obviously failed public education system, he destroyed jobs by increasing Steel Tariffs for the benefit of the "working man" and he admittedly has a hard time conveying complex ideas (Like Liberals who have no complex ideas). The only thing to the Right George Bush is has done has been to cut taxes (like JFK) and kill Terrorists. What is the Left's and your problem with Bush? You cannot explain it because you are a Pea Brain...your positions on such easy to understand issues prove it.
Catmando wrote on 12-06-2003 11:05 PM:
"Pea brain"?? That's a good description of all you Bushlovers. Read about Chimpy McFlightsuit and his military record. Read about his business record. His college record.
Arm yourself with knowledge of your hero before you open your mouth about the intelligence of those who have.
BTW I have been an Ayn Rand Objectivist for over 40 years. I live by the John Galt quote in your sig line.
Catmando
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Catmando:
You're an Objectivist? Really? I don't believe it. If there's anything Objectivists stand for it's class...and you show no class when you insult the military and totally disregard there approval their Commander in Chief.
But regardless, what military record are you talking about? The guy was in the National Guard and flew jets. Every commanding officer he ever flew under regarded him as a leader and a highly skilled pilot. I'm assuming your "war record" means that his not fighting IN Vietnam makes him a draft dodger? Thats absurd and you know it. Are you talking about his early discharge? Are you claiming he went AWOL, because that's just false too? Bush received an eight month early discharge to go to Harvard; the same discharge Al Gore obtained to leave six months early to go to college for either Law School with, or Seminary school, I forget actually because he flunked out of the first and quit the second, so it doesn't really matter. Besides, in 1972 when both Bush and Gore received their discharges, Nixon wasn't drafting people anymore. So whats your claim? Neither received preferential treatment because they were "privileged"; virtually everyone who requested these early discharges for college received one. Are you talking about Bush's war record in Afghanistan and Iraq? We're talking about wiping out two of the bloodiest regimes in history, with less then 500 causalities combined--you cannot be serious if you're including this in his "war record".
You're not an objectivist. You're as much of an Objectivist as Bill Maher is a Libertarian. If you're against wiping out terrorists and terrorist sponsoring states, you cannot be an Objectivist. Protecting Americans from their enemies is the primary function of Government--the most important of only three Constitutional and moral functions of government--according to Objectivist thought and the Constitution itself. You are not an Objectivist, sir. Did you know that it was the Ayn Rand Institute's conclusion that preventative war with Iran has been warranted since the early 80's? Have you ever heard of Leonard Peikoff? Did you know he suggested the use of Nuclear Weapons against Iran if we ever found Iran to possess Nuclear Weapons themselves...pre-911!? I bet not. You're a leftist who doesn't want to be called a Leftist.
Now, when you say "Arm yourself with knowledge of your hero before you open your mouth about the intelligence of those who have" and "Read about Chimpy McFlightsuit and his military record...Read about his business record...His college record" do you actually think you're conveying ideas? These are not ideas; these are empty insults. You didn't tell me anything about Bush's war record; you told me to read about it on my own. You didn't try to discredit the military's overwhelming support of Bush; you called him "Chimpy McFlighsuit". You didn't explain Bush's business record or his college record either because you don't know yourself. You're a leftist, you hate Bush, you're stupid and you're a liar.
I don't understand why you Leftists hate Bush so much either: he's signing today the largest domestic spending increase since the New Deal with this "Medicare Drug Benefit", he's drastically increased the budget for an obviously failed public education system, he destroyed jobs by increasing Steel Tariffs for the benefit of the "working man" and he admittedly has a hard time conveying complex ideas (Like Liberals who have no complex ideas). The only thing to the Right George Bush is has done has been to cut taxes (like JFK) and kill Terrorists. What is the Left's and your problem with Bush? You cannot explain it because you are a Pea Brain...your positions on such easy to understand issues prove it.
Catmando wrote on 12-06-2003 11:05 PM:
"Pea brain"?? That's a good description of all you Bushlovers. Read about Chimpy McFlightsuit and his military record. Read about his business record. His college record.
Arm yourself with knowledge of your hero before you open your mouth about the intelligence of those who have.
BTW I have been an Ayn Rand Objectivist for over 40 years. I live by the John Galt quote in your sig line.
Catmando
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