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matt1
01-30-2004, 04:12 AM
I found a block with casting # DOTE-AB 5
Was wanting to know if my 460 crank,rods,and pistons would work with block.
Or what would I have to do to make it work,the guy that has it said he thought it was 429 commercial truck eng.

Craig
01-30-2004, 06:32 AM
1970 truck engine,
D=deade, which is 70-79
0 = year of the decade, 1970
T = truck
E = engine (duh)
AB is the engineering change level
Not sure what the 5 indicates

matt1
01-30-2004, 07:57 PM
Thanks. Now will my exsiting parts work with this block.

Blown 472
01-30-2004, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by matt1
Thanks. Now will my exsiting parts work with this block.
You have the crank from it?

matt1
01-30-2004, 09:08 PM
No I dont but might be able to get it.Is it alot differint than my 460 crank.

Blown 472
01-30-2004, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by matt1
No I dont but might be able to get it.Is it alot differint than my 460 crank.
How so?

LakesOnly
01-31-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
You have the crank from it?
**** you, BLOWN, that crank is mine!:D
Matt, now be a gentlemen and send me the 429 truck crank.:wink:
****!!!! BLown, you are so lucky your clock is two hours ahead of mine!:mad:
LO
p.s. ****in-A dammit shit mother****er for cryin' out loud!
p.p.s. FU-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-UCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blown 472
01-31-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by LakesOnly
**** you, BLOWN, that crank is mine!:D
Matt, now be a gentlemen and send me the 429 truck crank.:wink:
****!!!! BLown, you are so lucky your clock is two hours ahead of mine!:mad:
LO
p.s. ****in-A dammit shit mother****er for cryin' out loud!
p.p.s. FU-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-UCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hehehehe that is one advantage to being two hours ahead. Matt pm me with the details please and dont mind lakes only.:D :D

LakesOnly
01-31-2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by matt1
No I dont but might be able to get it.Is it alot differint than my 460 crank.
Matt, my above post is really an inside joke between me and Blown.
What you may have there is a commercial big truck 429 crank. They are forged but you are correct that they are different and require machining to make work.
The truth is that by today's standards, there are better options of forged cranks. The big truck forged 429 crank is not made of 4340 chromoly steel, nor is it correctly configured for your application unless some machining is done to the crank snout. And so while it can be made to work, a better, stronger forged crankshaft(s) can be purchased over the shelf for less time and hassle.
It's just that if you're an OEM factory Ford nut like me or Blown472, it's kinda cool to have one laying around.
In all seriousness, your factory 460 crank can handle 700 horsepower no problem. And it's ready to go, so use it. Also, with some strengthening it can handle much, much more power than that. I know personally a machinist/car builder that uses factory cast 429/460 block, crank and heads and gets around 2000HP reliably with no problems. Makes passes all day without inspection teardowns between runs. So trust your stock stuff.
And if you yourself can afford to build a 1000+HP engine, you can certainly afford to buy a quality 4340 forged crankshaft for piece of mind, if that's what you want.
But if the spare 429 truck crank is what we think it is, be a good samaritan and put it in the hands of a BBF mechanical wing-nut where it can be tinkered and tweeked with and spend lots of money on configuring, just because we don't give a ****...
LO

Blown 472
01-31-2004, 09:54 AM
That pretty much sums it up, long winters here just to sit around and play the what if game.
You got any picks of that 2000 hp monster??

LakesOnly
01-31-2004, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
You got any picks of that 2000 hp monster??
I met this guy when I went to LA to pick up some C9 heads. He says he was turning 7-second quarters with oem 2-bolt block, crank and heads. (Never goes over 6500 rpm.) He was making modified parts for 385 BBF's way back when nobody manufactuered them. He's a machinist/fabricator.
And he swears by the cast iron BBF stuff. He did mid-sevens with a stock block and heads (C8's and C9's exclusively) and nitrided crank, blown 7% over and 86% nitro. NO PROBLEMS WITH THE LONGBLOCK OR ROTATING ASSEMBLY. He simply never turns more than 6500rpm. It's all about the oiling mod's. Pictured below is the car he did this with. It is a Blown Fuel Altered car.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/350Nightmare_pics-med.jpg
Yeah Baby,
LO

460rogers
01-31-2004, 03:04 PM
Now can anyone answer his question?I found a block with casting # DOTE-AB 5 Was wanting to know if my 460 crank,rods,and pistons would work with block.
inquiring minds want to know.
me too.

matt1
01-31-2004, 05:14 PM
So can I take my crank pistons and rods and just stick it in that block if so I can get the block and a set of d3's for 1 bill.the blocks got new cam bearings and frezze plugs and fresh .030 bore done.Also if I get my hands on that crank you guys interested.The guy that has the block said that my 460 crank oil slinger would have to be cut off to work in this block.Is this true.
Im the same guy that found the broke #2 main cap.

Blown 472
01-31-2004, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by matt1
So can I take my crank pistons and rods and just stick it in that block if so I can get the block and a set of d3's for 1 bill.the blocks got new cam bearings and frezze plugs and fresh .030 bore done.Also if I get my hands on that crank you guys interested.The guy that has the block said that my 460 crank oil slinger would have to be cut off to work in this block.Is this true.
Im the same guy that found the broke #2 main cap.
The oil slinger just slides over the front of the crank snout, make sure you use the 60 timming cover as the truck one is diff due the diff crank snout.
Kick ass car Lakes, 86% load, kick ass bet it makes lots of eyes water. :eek:

matt1
01-31-2004, 06:04 PM
OH SHIT
Is this to lube the timing chain. B/C I think I threw it away:mad: :mad: :mad:

matt1
01-31-2004, 06:07 PM
One more time can I just put my crank pistons and rods in this DOTE AB block. Or is ther some mods to make.

LakesOnly
02-02-2004, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by matt1
I found a block with casting # DOTE-AB 5
Was wanting to know if my 460 crank, rods and pistons would work with block.
Or what would I have to do to make it work,the guy that has it said he thought it was 429 commercial truck eng.
Matt,
Please go back to your block and scrub the grunge away from the casting numbers before you re-read them; it just dawned on me that the block casting numbers are probably D9TE, not D0TE. Scrub and look closely. If this is the case (D9TE), we will be able to answer all your questions.
LO
p.s. I don't think there ever was a D0TE block.