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goeasy8
02-01-2004, 05:43 PM
So who saw it. Justin Timberlake did something wrong and her tit fell out. I laughed my ass off.....

diggler
02-01-2004, 06:03 PM
It sure looked like a "Pasty" to me. It was shiny....
By the way, this if finally my 500th post!

Oceanside
02-01-2004, 06:23 PM
I saw the same thing, NICE

P-Money
02-01-2004, 06:28 PM
That looked like a stunt to get some attention to me. Did you see the naked guy doing the Riverdance? What the ****?!

stoker
02-01-2004, 06:29 PM
Here it is

PACKINAIR
02-01-2004, 06:58 PM
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040202/i/r1453538398.jpg
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040202/i/r2794264459.jpg

PACKINAIR
02-01-2004, 07:07 PM
http://www.mynx.com/janetboob.jpg

Infomaniac
02-01-2004, 07:09 PM
My daughter saw it and did not tell me.
Looks like I need to train her a bit on when to alert dad. ;)

stoker
02-01-2004, 07:14 PM
The Drudge Report has the story. It was all planned. I guess it pissed off a few people :eek:

Infomaniac
02-01-2004, 07:19 PM
I imagine so with the pastie.
Maybe that was the surprise performer?

HOSS
02-01-2004, 07:37 PM
I didn`t see it my wife did. But I bet it was planned since a pastie was prefabbed.

Duck
02-01-2004, 07:38 PM
I looked away for a second, Justin and Janet are not my music, and my wifes yelling Janet boob was pulled out. Packinair, Thank you for the chocolate suprise, pasties or not. Great game too.

Kilrtoy
02-01-2004, 07:40 PM
She got some BIg tits,
NICE

PACKINAIR
02-01-2004, 07:50 PM
OUTRAGE AT CBS AFTER JANET BARES BREAST DURING DINNER HOUR; SUPER BOWL SHOW PUSHES LIMITS
**Exclusive**
Top CBS executives approved a musical skit where Janet Jackson would expose her breast during the MTV-produced Super Bowl half-time concert, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.
"The decision to go forward went to the very top of the network," a well-placed source explained from New York.
The groundbreaking scene came during the most-watched television broadcast of the year -- and during the dinner hour for the nation's west coast viewers.
Officially, CBS drew distance from the show: "CBS deeply regrets the incident that occured during the Super Bowl halftime show," the network said in a release. "We attended all rehearsals throughout the week and there was no indication that any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."
In a press release before Sunday's game, CBS's sister outlet [VIACOM's] MTV promised "Janet's Shocking Moments."
"I'll get you naked by the end of this song," sang performer Justin Timberlake, moments before he ripped off Jackson's top, exposing a bare breast -- the nipple covered by a tassel.
CBS's main New York switchboard was immediately bombarded with complaints about the stunt, network sources said late Sunday.
Developing...

Ken F
02-01-2004, 07:53 PM
Looks like a fried egg

havasuaddicted661
02-01-2004, 08:05 PM
hahaha..I laughed so hard when I saw that ...couldnt believe he did that...

Kilrtoy
02-01-2004, 08:10 PM
come on, look at home my friend
Yeah but I see those all the time......

Mandelon
02-01-2004, 08:24 PM
Ya think with all her money she could afford some better looking boobs. :rolleyes:
I noticed she was wearing baggy pants to cover her growing butt and pooch. :D

welk2party
02-01-2004, 08:33 PM
The wife and I saw it.:D BOOB SHOT!:cool:

PACKINAIR
02-01-2004, 08:42 PM
now you can all see it
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/pin87a/janet.wmv

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 09:18 PM
I saw it. And I think that there should be an investigation, Lifetime bans and hefty fines leveed! That's just dispicable behavior and all involved should be ashamed! That speaks volumes about the Jackson name in a negitive context, and I hope that ageing hag has seen the last of the spotlight. What is ****ing wrong with people thesedays? This world is ****ed!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Dr. Eagle
02-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by LASERRAY
I saw it. And I think that there should be an investigation, Lifetime bans and hefty fines leveed! That's just dispicable behavior and all involved should be ashamed! That speaks volumes about the Jackson name in a negitive context, and I hope that ageing hag has seen the last of the spotlight. What is ****ing wrong with people thesedays? This world is ****ed!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:
What he said......:D

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 09:22 PM
And were all doomed!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :D
P.S. I'm still pissed!:cool:

Morg
02-01-2004, 09:36 PM
uh...huh...huh
Cool...boob
It was a lame stunt, who cares

phebus
02-01-2004, 09:38 PM
I think they were looking for Michael's nose.

JetBoatRich
02-01-2004, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
come on, look at home my friend
Yeah but I see those all the time......
Funny

MagicMtnDan
02-01-2004, 09:51 PM
She's a runner up to her brother in the worst plastic surgery award. Look at the picture in this thread with her tit showing - her face looks like browned Spam.
When Justin pulled her boob cover off Janet's tit flopped out - she definitely shoulda kept that thing covered up - if CBS is gonna show ta-ta's I'm saying they should at least be great looking ones or boobs that we WANT to see. Britney woulda shown better.
Janet needs to go back to the doctor for a new set of bolt-ons!

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 09:55 PM
I don't mean to come-off as Tipper Gore's croonie here, but I still think the whole "stunt" was wrong, pastie or no pastie. There is a certain expectation of decencey when watching television, especially an event as large as the Superbowl, and that was shot to hell this evening with that attention *****! Hell' even Kid Rock behaved himself. And don't tell me that it was no big deal! It's the most watched event of the year. That attitude is the core of the problem. This liberal, and who cares attitude is the reason that this country is entrenched in this garbage to begin with. I'm just glad my kids didn't see it. I'm sure alot of you aren't so lucky. Happy explaining.:cool: Ok liberals, SLING IT!:rolleyes:

phebus
02-01-2004, 09:56 PM
I've heard of bolt on's, but she looks like she actually has a freakin bolt holding that thing on.

RiverKitty
02-01-2004, 09:57 PM
Is it me....or is her nipple on the *side* of her chi-chi???
Shouldn't it be in the *middle*??? :confused:
Looks like it's pointing south! :eek:

MagicMtnDan
02-01-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by LASERRAY
I don't mean to come-off as Tipper Gore's croonie here, but I still think the whole "stunt" was wrong, pastie or no pastie. There is a certain expectation of decencey when watching television, especially an event as large as the Superbowl, and that was shot to hell this evening with that attention *****! Hell' even Kid Rock behaved himself. And don't tell me that it was no big deal! It's the most watched event of the year. That attitude is the core of the problem. This liberal, and who cares attitude is the reason that this country is entrenched in this garbage to begin with. I'm just glad my kids didn't see it. I'm sure alot of you aren't so lucky. Happy explaining.:cool: Ok liberals, SLING IT!:rolleyes:
I agree and there's something else that bothered me about the half-time show - the few words I could understand in the "entertainment" weren't fit for a Super Bowl halftime show. I heard Kid Rock singing about drugs and was sure I heard him mention methadone - WTF is methadone doing in a Super Bowl half-time show? There were more words I heard and didn't like but what worries me (if worry is the right word) are the words I heard but didn't understand.
I don't mind hip-hop and rap on the radio - I can flip past it. But when it's jammed down my throat in a POS halftime show in the Super Bowl that's when I'm thinking it's time to make other plans.
Anyone watch the Lingerie Bowl? I didn't but would like to hear how that went (I'm guessing it was a fiasco but I have no facts to back that up). :confused:

Kilrtoy
02-01-2004, 10:02 PM
Damn LASERRAY,
You are serious.
Relax and have another beer its only a tit, its not like it was two or any thing

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Damn LASERRAY,
You are serious.
Relax and have another beer its only a tit, its not like it was two or any thing See Buddy, That's the problem. It wasn't a big deal for me personally, but I'm not thiking about me. I thinking outside the box if you will.(to use a very tired cliche) I'm thinking about my 4 year olds, i'm thinking about, well, read my post above!:D
And yes MMD, the whole enchilada including the lyrics was highly innapropriate!:frown:

BigBoyToys
02-01-2004, 10:23 PM
Uh....It wasn't a stunt. It wasn't supposed to happen that way. Here's the story;
CBS Apologizes for Jackson's Exposure
NEW YORK - CBS apologized on Sunday for an unexpectedly R-rated end to its Super Bowl halftime show, when singer Justin Timberlake (news) tore off part of Janet Jackson (news)'s top, exposing her breast. "CBS deeply regrets the incident," spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received several calls about the show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, and at the song's finish, Timberlake reached across Jackson's leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast.
The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the incident on the air.
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson's breast.
"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, "and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS' broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS' corporate cousin in Viacom.
"We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show," Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said. "They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
"It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
MTV issued a contrite statement, saying the incident was "unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional."

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by BigBoyToys
Uh....It wasn't a stunt. It wasn't supposed to happen that way. Here's the story;
CBS Apologizes for Jackson's Exposure
NEW YORK - CBS apologized on Sunday for an unexpectedly R-rated end to its Super Bowl halftime show, when singer Justin Timberlake (news) tore off part of Janet Jackson (news)'s top, exposing her breast. "CBS deeply regrets the incident," spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received several calls about the show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, and at the song's finish, Timberlake reached across Jackson's leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast.
The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the incident on the air.
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson's breast.
"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, "and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS' broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS' corporate cousin in Viacom.
"We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show," Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said. "They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
"It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
MTV issued a contrite statement, saying the incident was "unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional." Of course they're going to put the spin on it. They have current and future advertisers to think about. That WAS planned, no doubt in my mind. Listen to the song, and the final lyric: "gonna have you naked by the end of this song"- :rolleyes:

MagicMtnDan
02-01-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by BigBoyToys
Uh....It wasn't a stunt. It wasn't supposed to happen that way. Here's the story;
CBS Apologizes for Jackson's Exposure
And in this day and age you feel comfortable BELIEVING CBS and their "apology?" They would apologize for showing anything on TV - anything that would drive up their ratings.
You want to sing about drugs and show pasties, do it on cable/satellite, not on the Super Bowl halftime show. There are so many shows on cable/satellite that do that it's no big deal. But now they're putting on a show that's "interrupted" by the Super Bowl game.
Do we really need this crap in the Super Bowl? The game's the thing, right? :confused: Ah, maybe not - you're right, singing about drugs and showing Janet's boob is a good thing and I'm over reacting. There shouldn't be any limits at all - maybe next time we'll see some naked girls - just as long as it's not on the RRL board :D

Kilrtoy
02-01-2004, 10:40 PM
I missed the whole thing,
we were watching the lingerie bowl at the Flyin Vee's house.
But as stated, drugs and sex have no place in professional sports,
just ask Lawerence Taylor, Daryl Strawberry or Kobi Bryant

boatnam2
02-01-2004, 10:46 PM
it goes with the madonna brittany kiss when nobody wants to hear you sing whip a tit out or fake a kiss and a bunch of dumb ****s will eat it up.

LASERRAY
02-01-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by boatnam2
it goes with the madonna brittany kiss when nobody wants to hear you sing whip a tit out or fake a kiss and a bunch of dumb ****s will eat it up. Of wich dum****s do you refer to sir? If they intended to piss-off the decent people, then they succeded. ;)

Kilrtoy
02-01-2004, 10:56 PM
Im not upset or offended, So im indecent.
ray it will be ok, I have a porno for you when you are ready.....:D
By the way good seeing you at the show, next time, the river, looking at some hot bitches in g-strings show us their tits..... :D

carbonmarine
02-02-2004, 12:56 AM
TOLD YA !
Rick32:cool:

v-drive
02-02-2004, 04:46 AM
Originally posted by BigBoyToys
Uh....It wasn't a stunt. It wasn't supposed to happen that way. Here's the story;
CBS Apologizes for Jackson's Exposure
NEW YORK - CBS apologized on Sunday for an unexpectedly R-rated end to its Super Bowl halftime show, when singer Justin Timberlake (news) tore off part of Janet Jackson (news)'s top, exposing her breast. "CBS deeply regrets the incident," spokeswoman LeslieAnne Wade said after the network received several calls about the show.
The two singers were performing a flirtatious duet to end the halftime show, and at the song's finish, Timberlake reached across Jackson's leather gladiator outfit and pulled off the covering to her right breast.
The network quickly cut away from the shot, and did not mention the incident on the air.
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson's breast.
"I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl," Timberlake said in a statement. "It was not intentional and is regrettable."
Wade said CBS officials attended rehearsals of the halftime show all week, "and there was no indication any such thing would happen. The moment did not conform to CBS' broadcast standards and we would like to apologize to anyone who was offended."
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS' corporate cousin in Viacom.
"We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show," Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said. "They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
"It's unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime."
MTV issued a contrite statement, saying the incident was "unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional." Yeah right and the world is flat:mad: v-drive

BigBoyToys
02-02-2004, 05:53 AM
It doesn't matter to me one way or the other if it was "planned" or not. In a World where morals are rapidly declining we don't need that kind of crap on TV. I wonder how many children were watching the skit:mad:

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by LASERRAY
See Buddy, That's the problem. It wasn't a big deal for me personally, but I'm not thiking about me. I thinking outside the box if you will.(to use a very tired cliche) I'm thinking about my 4 year olds, i'm thinking about, well, read my post above!:D
And yes MMD, the whole enchilada including the lyrics was highly innapropriate!:frown:
Perhaps you should read your previous posts. For someone who claims that "It wasn't a big deal for me" sure is blowing the whistle all over these boards about how inappropriate you think it was. "I'm not thinking about me"...thats half the problem of this pansy ass world, we have too many people thinking for others. People have opinions, let them state them on their own, I sure as hell don't support your opinion and I don't need you telling me what is right and wrong. As for the 4 years old kids, you really don't think they give a shit about the game or half time do you? They don't have the attention span to care. Unless of course mommy and daddy hover over the children and plan their day out. "Ok little Bobby and Suzie, come and watch this halftime show. Yeah, you're right Bobby, Janet Jackson is a washed up entertainer and Justin Timberlake was a member of a gay boy band craze, but please sit down and watch this". As for the boob shot, 4 year olds don't have a clue about the difference between an tit and an elbow. All they know is that it was for feeding, IF they even remember that. Personally, I thought it was quite funny, had a major shock factor built in and left my wife and I questioning if that was a real shot or not. The shot was so fast that you couldn't really tell if there was a pasty or not. That may have lead to the hasty calling of older people or stupid people that jumped the gun and called the network before seeing that what was there is perfectly legal and acceptable in network broadcast.

AZKC
02-02-2004, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by LASERRAY
Hell' even Kid Rock behaved himself. And don't tell me that it was no big deal!
I wasn't to happy with Kid cutting a hole in an American Flag for a poncho. The boob thing is no big deal to me of course, I'm a raging liberal:D

JetBoatRich
02-02-2004, 07:06 AM
Reading through all these responses, normally no big deal. But halftime at the Superbowl does seem like the wrong place for this. :eek:

mmered8299
02-02-2004, 07:07 AM
I don't know what was the biggest surprise to me? The Game or seeing JJ Bobbie on National TV! :confused: :D :confused:

Caribbean Jet
02-02-2004, 07:08 AM
This was just a stunt to take a little attention from her bro. It was staged!

spectratoad
02-02-2004, 07:22 AM
Seeing a bood doesn't bother me too much. Should it have been done for the SuperBowl, NO. Should whoever thought this up and all involved be fined, YES.
My comments during the whole halftime were show were, "Who is it that decides what the halftime show is going to be?" I can't see the most likely SuperBowl attendee of watcher to want to listne to a totally rap halftime show.
Whoever that person is should be fired also.

MagicMtnDan
02-02-2004, 07:43 AM
The Super Bowl halftime show, which also featured P. Diddy, Nelly and Kid Rock, was produced by MTV, CBS’ corporate cousin in Viacom.
“We were extremely disappointed by elements of the MTV-produced halftime show,” Joe Browne, NFL executive vice president, said. “They were totally inconsistent with assurances our office was given about the content of the show.
“It’s unlikely that MTV will produce another Super Bowl halftime.”
MTV issued a contrite statement in which it also apologized, saying the incident was “unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional and was inconsistent with assurances we had about the content of the performance.”
Timberlake said he did not intend to expose Jackson’s breast.
“I am sorry that anyone was offended by the wardrobe malfunction during the halftime performance of the Super Bowl,” Timberlake said in a statement. “It was not intentional and is regrettable.”

Essex502
02-02-2004, 07:49 AM
Pierced nip no less? You guys mention the nudity but what about all that crotch grabbing crap going on? Even more reason to ban the rap crap from the Super Bowl show.

coolchange
02-02-2004, 08:00 AM
You can see it was a snap on cup... Justin, what a pie. If you did it, own it. I dont care too much for Kid Rock, but he stole the whole show.

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by spectratoad
Should whoever thought this up and all involved be fined, YES.
What is the crime?!?!?!?

JetBoatRich
02-02-2004, 08:02 AM
Great shot MMD, what the heck is that on her TIT?

schiada96
02-02-2004, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
What is the crime?!?!?!?
Stupidity, indecient exposure

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by schiada96
Stupidity, indecient exposure
Per YOUR opinion :rolleyes:

VD CRUISER
02-02-2004, 08:17 AM
The whole thing was so fast I wasn't sure it of what I had seen. I did comment at the time that it looked like he had exposed her boob. My main problem was I coudn't understand three forths of the words in the singing. It was a real no talent show.

Essex502
02-02-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by coolchange
You can see it was a snap on cup... Justin, what a pie. If you did it, own it. I dont care too much for Kid Rock, but he stole the whole show.
Looks suspiciously like a pierced unit to me.

AdrenelineOD
02-02-2004, 09:03 AM
no dought it was pearced and I almost was leaving to get another beer good thing I waited

SecondTake
02-02-2004, 09:15 AM
Tits are for kids... show us your pussy!:D

78Eliminator
02-02-2004, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by Infomaniac
My daughter saw it and did not tell me.
Looks like I need to train her a bit on when to alert dad. ;)
Uhhhh, actually I think your daughter needs a hug and a pat on the back. You should thank her for NOT telling you. I don't know about you, but I can't tell the difference between Michael and Janet. They both look like freaks to me...... :D

OMEGA_BUBBLE_JET
02-02-2004, 09:38 AM
she should have suffered the same consequences as the streaker. hog tied and removed from the field.:eek: I guess the rules don't apply to celebrities though:yuk: HPD let us down.:(
Omega

LASERRAY
02-02-2004, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
Perhaps you should read your previous posts. For someone who claims that "It wasn't a big deal for me" sure is blowing the whistle all over these boards about how inappropriate you think it was. "I'm not thinking about me"...thats half the problem of this pansy ass world, we have too many people thinking for others. People have opinions, let them state them on their own, I sure as hell don't support your opinion and I don't need you telling me what is right and wrong. As for the 4 years old kids, you really don't think they give a shit about the game or half time do you? They don't have the attention span to care. Unless of course mommy and daddy hover over the children and plan their day out. "Ok little Bobby and Suzie, come and watch this halftime show. Yeah, you're right Bobby, Janet Jackson is a washed up entertainer and Justin Timberlake was a member of a gay boy band craze, but please sit down and watch this". As for the boob shot, 4 year olds don't have a clue about the difference between an tit and an elbow. All they know is that it was for feeding, IF they even remember that. Personally, I thought it was quite funny, had a major shock factor built in and left my wife and I questioning if that was a real shot or not. The shot was so fast that you couldn't really tell if there was a pasty or not. That may have lead to the hasty calling of older people or stupid people that jumped the gun and called the network before seeing that what was there is perfectly legal and acceptable in network broadcast. You say that people have opinions, let them state them on their own. Well, did I not just state my opionion? And I'm not telling you how to think. This board is all about opionions, and without them, there is no forum for free speech.:cool:

LASERRAY
02-02-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
What is the crime?!?!?!? You just don't get it IMHO:cool:

MagicMtnDan
02-02-2004, 10:08 AM
Pretty funny (ironic) - I posted a large pic of the "incident" that clearly showed the boob and the rest and you know what, it was censored, removed from this board. And I understand that (although I do expect the other, smaller close-up pics to be removed from this board too) because that's what this board says they don't want shown here.
The ironic part is that it apparently was OK to show it on the network (CBS). :confused: This has to be a FIRST! Something is OK to show on the network but NOT OK to be shown HERE :confused:

AdrenelineOD
02-02-2004, 10:31 AM
If topless was legal knowone would ever take a second look.
Brazil!!!

topless
02-02-2004, 10:47 AM
Originally posted by AdrenelineOD
If topless was legal knowone would ever take a second look.
Brazil!!! I AM legal:D

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 10:53 AM
Watch the broadcast in real time and see how little time it is on the air. Even with a large Tv, the detail lacked, however with still photos and zooming in, it becomes a whole different game. Before all this was posted I think most people were thinking it was a pasty, myself and wife included. Well, thanks to modern technology it proves to be the real deal. :D And people are crying FOUL!! :yuk: Bunch of pansy-asses. Had it happened on the sandbar with the kids around, probably would not have received much frowning, or if it were Brittney Spears or Jennifer Anniston would it be so bad?:rolleyes:

Kilrtoy
02-02-2004, 11:00 AM
Had it happened on the sandbar with the kids around, probably would not have received much frowning
That happens everday at the sandbad with kids around and WORSE and the same people dont care then, so why now.

MsDrmr
02-02-2004, 11:01 AM
for me the game is a family affair, I had six children sitting and watching the show, ranging from 9-15, I did not find it acceptable and any article of clothing that "tear accidently" would not come off so perfectly. I am not offended for myself but damn**, I just don't understand why they felt the need for that kind of entertainment. The whole show sucked as far as I am concerend and I sure hope that next year they think a bit more about what they use for 1/2 time.

Blown 472
02-02-2004, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by 78Eliminator
Uhhhh, actually I think your daughter needs a hug and a pat on the back. You should thank her for NOT telling you. I don't know about you, but I can't tell the difference between Michael and Janet. They both look like freaks to me...... :D
dude, where is the love?

MsDrmr
02-02-2004, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Had it happened on the sandbar with the kids around, probably would not have received much frowning
That happens everday at the sandbad with kids around and WORSE and the same people dont care then, so why now.
don't assume that the ones talking here are out at the river with their kids exposed to this, my children are not exposed to this at any boating place I attend, if you raise your children around it, there is no reason for anyone to be upset, if you don't have your kids around it,,,words are fair play

HighRoller
02-02-2004, 11:43 AM
The only thing more offensive than that stunt was that CBS is lying about being "offended". Oh puh-lease! You hire MTV to produce a show with PDiddly and Nelly what the hell do you think you're gonna get? This from the company that told us ESPN's show Playmakers was "offensive" to the game!!!!!

G-Ride
02-02-2004, 12:04 PM
How about a close up? Nice nipple jewelry!!:D
http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjj.htm

Jbb
02-02-2004, 12:11 PM
which moderator deleted my post...nazi piece of shit

JetBoatRich
02-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by JETBOAT BRIAN
which moderator deleted my post...nazi piece of shit
No way that was staying up, good close up though:eek:

Jbb
02-02-2004, 12:21 PM
moderators suck...power to the people.....:rolleyes:

MagicMtnDan
02-02-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by mrsdrmr
for me the game is a family affair, I had six children sitting and watching the show, ranging from 9-15, I did not find it acceptable and any article of clothing that "tear accidently" would not come off so perfectly. I am not offended for myself but damn**, I just don't understand why they felt the need for that kind of entertainment. The whole show sucked as far as I am concerend and I sure hope that next year they think a bit more about what they use for 1/2 time.
Originally posted by mrsdrmr
don't assume that the ones talking here are out at the river with their kids exposed to this, my children are not exposed to this at any boating place I attend, if you raise your children around it, there is no reason for anyone to be upset, if you don't have your kids around it,,,words are fair play
You said it very well MrsDrmr - you explained why it was wrong to have that crap that they called a halftime show. Crotch-grabbing, has-been performers lip-synching drug-related demeaning lyrics while flopping a boob out is out-of-line and inappropriate for an NFL FOOTBALL game.
The game's turned into an overblown, overdone, bloated show with two halves of football smashed in there. The focus should be the GAME. And there's nothing wrong with leaving out a half-time entertainment show. A band on the field and highlights of the first half and highlights of other Super Bowls would be fine for half-time TV audience entertainment.

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 12:46 PM
Can anyone remember the last time there was a great Superbowl Halftime Show? :confused: The one thing that does stand out is the year that the guy had a jetpack on, but I don't think it did a very graceful "flight".

Kilrtoy
02-02-2004, 01:12 PM
She showed her tit
BIG DEAL

Kilrtoy
02-02-2004, 01:18 PM
This is the only country in the free world that makes the human body obscene.
Whyis it, that in every other country, they are topless on all the beaches, papers, tv. So why here is it so BAD.
Its a tit big deal.
Not like it was two guys ****in.......

coolchange
02-02-2004, 01:32 PM
Not like it was two guys ****in.......
So you agree there is a line, you just dont like where most people think it should be.
The FCC is investigating and could bring fines of up to $27,500. Big deal.... but they can fine for each affiliate that aired the broadcast. :eek!: I hope they do and bill Janet!

topless
02-02-2004, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by coolchange
So you agree there is a line, you just dont like where most people think it should be.
The FCC is investigating and could bring fines of up to $27,500. Big deal.... but they can fine for each affiliate that aired the broadcast. :eek!: I hope they do and bill Janet! Maybe if we all file a class action lawsuit against MTV and CBS on behalf of all of our children who had to be exposed to this filth, we could all be RICH!!!!! What do ya think?:D

Keithb87
02-02-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by topless
Maybe if we all file a class action lawsuit against MTV and CBS on behalf of all of our children who had to be exposed to this filth, we could all be RICH!!!!! What do ya think?:D
LMAO :D :D

Wet Dream
02-02-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by topless
Maybe if we all file a class action lawsuit against MTV and CBS on behalf of all of our children who had to be exposed to this filth, we could all be RICH!!!!! What do ya think?:D
What do I think? I think that outlook it the typical bullshit that plagues our society. Someone makes a bad decision or a wrong move and all the scabs in society want to capitalize on it. ****ing welfare wanna be's if you ask me.

topless
02-02-2004, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
What do I think? I think that outlook it the typical bullshit that plagues our society. Someone makes a bad decision or a wrong move and all the scabs in society want to capitalize on it. ****ing welfare wanna be's if you ask me. No, not a welfare wanna be, just wanna be RICH. If you don't want to join in, stay poor. Oh, by the way, IT WAS JUST A JOKE!

eliminatedsprinter
02-02-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
Can anyone remember the last time there was a great Superbowl Halftime Show? :confused: The one thing that does stand out is the year that the guy had a jetpack on, but I don't think it did a very graceful "flight".
1970 (I think) between the vikings and the chiefs. The game was in New Orleans. The Jazz show they put on with Doc Severenson, Big Al Hurt, and I think it was one of the great "Schachmo" Louis Armstrong's (but I'm not positive, as I was young and it was a long time ago) last shows. What I do remember was it was classy and the best quality halftime show ever.:cool:
As far as CBS is concerned, they let a cheezy outfit like MTV do the show and they got a cheezy show,Duuuuh:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Ever get a glimpse of MTV's "Real World". Sure it's the real world if you live in West Hollywood. They also are pushing politics on kids that is slightly to the left of Castro's.
To be honest, I'm pretty liberal about sex, but I still think CBS showed bad judjment in letting a low class outfit like MTV do the show.
P.S.I think Janet J. looks fantastic for her (or any) age. She's in great shape and her butt is boomin:D . But that still doesn't make that show in good taste for the Superbowls audiance.:o

spectratoad
02-02-2004, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
What is the crime?!?!?!?
They were at a pro sports event and had a contract to do a certain type of show. The FCC has guidelines and this was not a proper prime time act.
Doesn't have to be a crime. Maybe just a broken rule. Remember the guy that was fined 15K or something after he pulled his cellphone from under the goalpost padding.

HammerDown
02-02-2004, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by JETBOAT BRIAN
which moderator deleted my post...nazi piece of shit
That "Nazi piece of shit " would be me.
So what seems to be the source of your discomfort? The fact I removed a close up of a womans tit?
I'm sure by now you know as well as other's...Hot Boat doesn't want this type of content posted on (there) Forum.
If that fact makes your life so unbearable and drives you to call someone (me) a Nazi...I would suggest you start up your own Boating Forum and have at it with the content that is so important to your daily way of life.
To those that feel any Moderator (I'll refer to me here ) is hiding behing a Computer...BS!!! I've got no problems getting Face to Face with anyone. Let me know when you come to Pa. and we'll have us a little chat.
Now try to have a wonderful Day....

Jbb
02-02-2004, 04:43 PM
The source of my discomfort is that you let your assignment go to your head,But that has already been discussed ad infiniti here..
And save your threats for someone they might mean something to....Ok

H20 Party Starter
02-02-2004, 04:49 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by HammerDown
[B]That "Nazi piece of shit " would be me.
Hot Boat doesn't want this type of content posted on (there) Forum.
OK English 101 for dummies....
"There" refers to a location
"Their" is used when talking about something belonging to someone
Please try to have a nice day:)

HammerDown
02-02-2004, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by JETBOAT BRIAN
The source of my discomfort is that you let your assignment go to your head,But that has already been discussed ad infiniti here..
And save your threats for someone they might mean something to....Ok
Take your complaints to HB...PM' Craig and tell him how you feel I did the wrong thing by removing your most important close up of a Tit, and feel free to explane how you have the right to post what you feel the need to.
Never a personal threat from me on a Computer so don't go there.

eliminatedsprinter
02-02-2004, 05:37 PM
Yo fellas, this is about fun, here.:cool: No way should a pic of Janet J's hooter cause such grief between us. :( Now, if we had a pic of her a$$ I would want to keep it. ;) But pics of strap-on hooters are a dime a dozen and not worth arguing over at all:eek: :cool: :D

SANGER-RICH
02-02-2004, 06:02 PM
LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS A BORG IMPLANT ON HER NIPPLE
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040202/i/r2794264459.jpg

JetBoatRich
02-02-2004, 06:05 PM
Do you think she has one on the other side?:confused:

eliminatedsprinter
02-02-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by JetBoatRich
Do you think she has one on the other side?:confused:
Not unless the plan was to pull down that side on TV as well.:rolleyes:

MagicMtnDan
02-02-2004, 06:24 PM
The Spin is Accelerating - Now They're Calling It a "Wardrobe Malfunction"
Janet Jackson’s boobylicious performance with Justin Timberlake at the Super Bowl halftime show on Sunday has sparked a federal investigation and set new standards for raunch in an entertainment industry that seems to be setting new highs — or lows — every day.
When Timberlake snatched off part of Jackson’s bustier, revealing a breast clad only in a sun-shaped “nipple shield,” the barrier was not broken, it was shattered before 89 million viewers.
Jackson apologized saying it was a last-minute stunt that went wrong. “The decision to have a costume reveal at the end of my halftime show performance was made after final rehearsals. MTV was completely unaware of it,” she said. “It was not my intention that it go as far as it did. I apologize to anyone offended — including the audience, MTV, CBS and the NFL.”
Jackson’s official Web site was slammed with angry postings. Her spokeswoman, Jennifer Holiner, said a red lace garment was supposed to remain when Timberlake tore off the outer covering.
Holiner said she was not sure whether Janet Jackson’s nipple decoration was meant to be seen.
Although Timberlake issued a statement shortly after the show blaming the debacle on a “wardrobe malfunction,” in comments to the syndicated show “Access Hollywood” right after the incident, he didn’t seem too sorry.
“Hey man, we love giving you all something to talk about,” he said, laughing.
Federal Communications Commission chief Michael Powell said in a statement, “Like millions of Americans, my family and I gathered around the television for a celebration. Instead, that celebration was tainted by a classless, crass and deplorable stunt.”
Powell promised an investigation, with potential fines of up to $27,500. If applied to each CBS station, the fine could reach the millions.
In response to multiple phone calls from the public, acting Houston police chief Joe Breshears reiterated that no criminal charges would be filed.
Despite the apparent premeditation — the display coincided exactly with Timberlake singing, “I’m gonna have you naked by the end of this song” — all involved denied that the peep show was planned.
“This was done completely without our knowledge,” said Chris Ender, entertainment spokesman for CBS, which was deluged with angry calls. “It wasn’t rehearsed. It wasn’t discussed. It wasn’t even hinted at. ... This is something we would have never approved. We are angry and embarrassed.”
“Unrehearsed, unplanned, completely unintentional,” said MTV.
But the display raised questions such as: If it was an accident, why did a choreographer promise “shocking moments” in an interview with the Web site MTV.com prior to the show? And how could it be a coincidence with the timing of the words to Timberlake’s song “Rock Your Body”?
MTV Networks Group President Judy McGrath says the shocker was supposed to be Timberlake’s appearance — and not what he did afterward. McGrath was sitting in the audience and didn’t see the flash, but said the pair “looked upset” afterward.
While she praised Jackson and Timberlake as artists, she said: “I don’t appreciate someone who doesn’t communicate what their plans are. I think it was misguided move on their parts.”
Over-the-air TV channels cannot air “obscene” material at any time and cannot air “indecent” material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. The FCC defines obscene as describing sexual conduct “in a patently offensive way” and lacking “serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value.” Indecent material is not as offensive but still contains references to sex or excretions.

Jbb
02-02-2004, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by HammerDown
Take your complaints to HB...PM' Craig and tell him how you feel I did the wrong thing by removing your most important close up of a Tit, and feel free to explane how you have the right to post what you feel the need to.
Never a personal threat from me on a Computer so don't go there.
I owe Hammerdown an apology..I thought I put a smiley on that original Nazi post because I thought someone else removed my post ....all tounge in cheek for me, so I am sorry you were offended, My Bad....However as Hot Boat seems to side with you on your heavy handed moderator style there is no need for me to complain, as it really does not matter. I have read all the posts of the past with respect to the moderators here and I choose to avoid the Jet section for that very reason....
Once again,My apology.....
Open threats to board members looks rather childish also...
Just a thought...
Regards, Jbb

H20 Party Starter
02-02-2004, 07:06 PM
Watch out when you go to the great state of Pa. Brian;)

Kilrtoy
02-02-2004, 07:52 PM
OK English 101 for dummies....
There" refers to a location
"Their" is used when talking about something belonging to someone
Their is no place for there type of english on these boards.:D

Kurtis500
02-02-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
She showed her tit
BIG DEAL
So how do you explain this to kids who dont know or understand this activity? I suppose you expect us to be there with the remote to change the channel for undecent and opscene crap during a family show.
It is a big deal. This crap doesnt need to be put out in front of EVERYBODY. Sexual content isnt appropriate for all ages.
Real accident, she made on hell of an attempt to correct the problem... and yeah, she knew whats up.

Moneypitt
02-02-2004, 09:27 PM
The Huston police chief needs to go back to school! The crime was way before the tit shot. Use of the AMERICAN FLAG as a piece of clothing, IS in FACT a crime. I'm sure there are several of us OLDER vets that were offended by that "entertainer" wearing the flag, period! The FACT that it was cut up for that use also is a crime, although the tit shot has taken over an entire broadcast, the way the flag was "DISHONORED" should be on the minds of the critics, CBS, and the NFL..... Not to mention those here that voiced their outrage over JJ's obviously staged publicity stunt...and ignored the treatment of OUR flag.......MY.02.....Moneypitt

Kilrtoy
02-02-2004, 11:20 PM
So how do you explain this to kids who dont know or understand this activity? I suppose you expect us to be there with the remote to change the channel for undecent and opscene crap during a family show.
Well, I cant help you be a parent, sorry,
But if my kids saw it, doubt they would even care.
but then again we dont shelter our kids or tell them that the human body is bad......

Essex502
02-03-2004, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by Moneypitt
The Huston police chief needs to go back to school! The crime was way before the tit shot. Use of the AMERICAN FLAG as a piece of clothing, IS in FACT a crime. I'm sure there are several of us OLDER vets that were offended by that "entertainer" wearing the flag, period! The FACT that it was cut up for that use also is a crime, although the tit shot has taken over an entire broadcast, the way the flag was "DISHONORED" should be on the minds of the critics, CBS, and the NFL..... Not to mention those here that voiced their outrage over JJ's obviously staged publicity stunt...and ignored the treatment of OUR flag.......MY.02.....Moneypitt
Not a crime in the literal sense but should be. No different than when Larry Flynt (owner of Hot Boat) ***** a flag as a diaper when he appeared in court.

Kurtis500
02-03-2004, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
So how do you explain this to kids who dont know or understand this activity? I suppose you expect us to be there with the remote to change the channel for undecent and opscene crap during a family show.
Well, I cant help you be a parent, sorry,
But if my kids saw it, doubt they would even care.
but then again we dont shelter our kids or tell them that the human body is bad......
You let em watch porn? If not, why not... please leave your morals out of the answer.

schiada96
02-03-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by HammerDown
Take your complaints to HB...PM' Craig and tell him how you feel I did the wrong thing by removing your most important close up of a Tit, and feel free to explane how you have the right to post what you feel the need to.
Never a personal threat from me on a Computer so don't go there.
Your an Idiot
I don't care what happened or what was posted. Looked kind of like a personal threat to me.

eliminatedsprinter
02-03-2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
So how do you explain this to kids who dont know or understand this activity? I suppose you expect us to be there with the remote to change the channel for undecent and opscene crap during a family show.
Well, I cant help you be a parent, sorry,
But if my kids saw it, doubt they would even care.
but then again we dont shelter our kids or tell them that the human body is bad......
My 10 year old son saw it and asked me about it. I didn't get all moralistic or uptight. I just explained that MTV is a low class outfit that is run by people with no mannors or commen sense and just because a person can sing and dance dosen't mean they are smart. I further explained that it was just a stupid move made by people who are not very smart and have really bad mannors and judgement. He told me he heard that CBS might get in trouble and asked why they were in trouble when they said they didn't know they were going to do it? I told them they should have been smarter and not hired a low class outfit like MTV to do their show. Then I explained to him what the expression "when you lay down with dogs you wind up with fleas" means.

Essex502
02-03-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by HammerDown
To those that feel any Moderator (I'll refer to me here ) is hiding behing a Computer...BS!!! I've got no problems getting Face to Face with anyone. Let me know when you come to Pa. and we'll have us a little chat.
How is this statement different than someone in a bar saying to you: "Let's step outside and talk about this face to face."? Both seem to be implied threats of getting punched in the nose. Always has been interpreted this way and is no less interpreted here in the same manner. Coming from a moderator is reprehensible. At minimum, an apology is warranted.

LASERRAY
02-03-2004, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Wet Dream
Can anyone remember the last time there was a great Superbowl Halftime Show? :confused: The one thing that does stand out is the year that the guy had a jetpack on, but I don't think it did a very graceful "flight". I liked U2's 9-11 tribute at the 2002 halftime show. Before that, i'd have to go way back to '92,or '93 when they had some decent country acts, but no others come to mind:cool:

Moneypitt
02-03-2004, 05:11 PM
Essex502, check the law books again.. It is a crime to wear the flag, or any portion of the flag as clothing. Thats not to say these laws are enforced as they could be. Back when there were "Peace freaks" protesting against "That" war, there were many, many arrests AND convictions for far less than what I saw on Sunday. Larry Flynt, well what can we say about his battles with the "Freedom" of speech/smut issues he's been through. His actions were his way of protesting the whole legal system. And I've got to agree, the legal system sucks!! It MAY be the best in the world, but the abuse the government commits is criminal in so many ways.. Again, you can burn the flag,(as long as the EPA doesn't catch you,) but you CAN'T wear IT....Moneypitt

Ziggy
02-03-2004, 05:36 PM
Without taking the time to read through all the posts my impression was Janet's escapade was tasteless. Entertainment at its worst. All the singing and dancing-fine. But to go that way with the audience in attendance and worldwide viewers-out of context. I'll admit when I first saw it I thought it was a fake out and simply thought it was inappropriate and didn't make much of it til all the hub-bub...still don't actually.
.
I felt the worst offense was by KidRock and having the flag on him---dispicable....beside the fact his singing sucks wind.
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Oh, and Nelly grabbin' his wanker through his whole performance??? WTF was that---did he need to take a leak or what? geez
.
There are many avenues for us parents to take as far as explaining to our children, each is brought up with the parents values, some will make light of it and others will make a big deal of it--nobody is right or wrong in dealing with our own kids...we naturally will make a choice we feel is right for our family.

MagicMtnDan
02-03-2004, 08:04 PM
Here's Spike Lee's Take on the J. Jackson Thing
NEW YORK - Film director Spike Lee criticized Janet Jackson’s surprise breast-baring during the Super Bowl halftime show last weekend as a “new low” of attention-getting antics by entertainers.
There has been a decline in artistry, Lee said while speaking at Kent State University’s regional campus in Stark County, Ohio, on Tuesday night.
Lee said it’s not enough to be a good singer, and that entertainers “have to do something extra” — such as the openmouthed kiss Madonna gave Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera during the MTV Video Music Awards in August.
“What’s gonna be next? It’s getting crazy, and it’s all down to money. Money and fame,” said Lee, the director of “Malcolm X” and “Do the Right Thing.” “Somehow the whole value system has been upended.”
Jackson issued another apology in a videotape released to the media. The pop star had apologized Monday night in a written statement.

Essex502
02-04-2004, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Moneypitt
Essex502, check the law books again.. It is a crime to wear the flag, or any portion of the flag as clothing. Thats not to say these laws are enforced as they could be. Back when there were "Peace freaks" protesting against "That" war, there were many, many arrests AND convictions for far less than what I saw on Sunday. Larry Flynt, well what can we say about his battles with the "Freedom" of speech/smut issues he's been through. His actions were his way of protesting the whole legal system. And I've got to agree, the legal system sucks!! It MAY be the best in the world, but the abuse the government commits is criminal in so many ways.. Again, you can burn the flag,(as long as the EPA doesn't catch you,) but you CAN'T wear IT....Moneypitt
Enlighten me...can you cite a specific law on the books that states the the flag cannot be used as clothing?
This is illegal? (http://www.littlehousefashions.com/limedstarstr.html)

AZKC
02-04-2004, 08:37 AM
climbin up the soap box:D Wearing the actual flag is where it gets touchy. When he did take it off at least he had a hottie behind him to grab it rather than throw it on the stage:) not sure if there are laws but there is some flag etiquette.
Flag (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/747947/posts)

Essex502
02-04-2004, 08:39 AM
Moneypitt:
"Sec. 8. — Respect for flag
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.
The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.
The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.
The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.
The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.
The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.
The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.
The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning"
The operative word is "should" NOT may not, can not, under penalty of law, crime, or other such wording indicating it is a criminal act. Section 700 of the U.S. Code specifies crime as mutilation or desecration and is very specific.

AZKC
02-04-2004, 08:47 AM
Here's the whole shizzle:D
Flag Laws (http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/flagcode.html)
Not a life or death thing, but its just not right what people do to the flag some times :rolleyes:

Essex502
02-04-2004, 08:59 AM
See that AZKC...the operative words are "should never". "Should" indicates a desired behavior in this case not a required behavior. Nothing in the "rules" posted criminalize the wearing of an American flag that I can see. My previous post listed the verbiage from the applicable section of the U.S. Code.

AZKC
02-04-2004, 09:42 AM
the operative words are "should never"
I "should never" get involved with these threads:D :cool:

Ziggy
02-04-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Essex502
See that AZKC...the operative words are "should never". "Should" indicates a desired behavior in this case not a required behavior. Nothing in the "rules" posted criminalize the wearing of an American flag that I can see. My previous post listed the verbiage from the applicable section of the U.S. Code.
"Should never" was with each of the rules so that means its OK to do what should never be done with the Flag??...hell no!, have some respect and stop reading the should never like a f'ing loophole lawyer. :rolleyes: I hope you're not a lawyer cuz I mean no disrespect by what I said, just making a point.

Essex502
02-04-2004, 11:50 AM
Don't get me wrong, Ziggy....I agree with you 100%. It's just not a law as another poster said.
That's why the Flag Burning Ammendment was proposed 'cause it's been ruled legal as a form of free speech. Some times, god forbid, I think we are TOO free.

OkieDave
02-04-2004, 12:04 PM
I thought the half time show sucked, the only redeeming part was the breast exposure...the best was the commentator following it who said " now that the mid-field disturbance has been dispensed with, we can get back to football." mid-field disturbance has been dispensed with! great!

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 12:12 PM
Essex 502
While folks like us know wearing a flag as clothing is improper flag etiquette, I'll bet Kid Rock actually thought he was showing patriotism when he wore that flag.:rolleyes: He is probably, like the vast majority of the people involved with pop culture, just ignorant of such things. Just like they are ignorant of our nations history and politics etc...What do you think?

AdrenelineOD
02-04-2004, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
Wearing a flag as clothing is improper flag etiquette. However I'll bet Kid Rock actually thought he was showing patriotism when he wore that flag.:rolleyes: He is probably, like the vast majority of the people involved with pop culture, just ignorant of such things. Just like they are ignorant of our nations history and politics etc...
Au ya! didnt the hippies were flags to say F@#& america. Even though they er free as well. talk about taking it for granted

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by AdrenelineOD
Au ya! didnt the hippies were flags to say F@#& america. Even though they er free as well. talk about taking it for granted
They sure did. But that was a different era. While many in Hollywood and in pop culture obviously feel that way. I don't think Kid Rock is one of them. Since 911 there has been a resurgence in the popularity of flag related stuff and much of it does not follow proper flag etiquette. I think Kid Rock falls into the latter catigory rather than into that of a hippie who wants to say F America. I think he just didn't know any better. But, since I can't read his mind, I can't be 100% sure....

MRS FLYIN VEE
02-04-2004, 12:31 PM
what about all the people that have the flag on their cars? aren't you suppose to bring in or lower the flag and remove it before sun down.. ;)

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
what about all the people that have the flag on their cars? aren't you suppose to bring in or lower the flag and remove it before sun down.. ;)
You can keep it out if you have a light on it.

Essex502
02-04-2004, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
Essex 502
While folks like us know wearing a flag as clothing is improper flag etiquette, I'll bet Kid Rock actually thought he was showing patriotism when he wore that flag.:rolleyes: He is probably, like the vast majority of the people involved with pop culture, just ignorant of such things. Just like they are ignorant of our nations history and politics etc...What do you think?
I agree whole-heartedly. Kid Rock and those of his musical genre are usually illitrate and ignorant. They do have a talent, of sorts, and think their sh!t don't stink and they can do what they want.

MRS FLYIN VEE
02-04-2004, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
You can keep it out if you have a light on it.
But what true american keeps a light on there cars?? :D ;)

Essex502
02-04-2004, 12:59 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
what about all the people that have the flag on their cars? aren't you suppose to bring in or lower the flag and remove it before sun down.. ;)
Read the text of the flag code...flags are NOT allowed on vehicles unless PROPERLY displayed. I've seen huge 6' flags flying off the back end of beat-up pickup trucks all tattered and dirty. Very wrong etiquette. Flags are also not to touch the ground. They are not to be display on anything disposable. They are not to be put on objects where the image will be easily torn. All of the preceeding have been done in our fervor to be "patriotic". While the sentiment is right the methods are not.

Ziggy
02-04-2004, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Essex502
Don't get me wrong, Ziggy....I agree with you 100%. It's just not a law as another poster said.
That's why the Flag Burning Ammendment was proposed 'cause it's been ruled legal as a form of free speech. Some times, god forbid, I think we are TOO free.
I also haven't actually seen that it is law that wearing a flag is illegal but I'm sure many opinions are formed in that direction due to all the News Channels proclaiming an illegal act by KidRock by wearing it over himself as he did. So many people throw rocks when they themselves may be just as ignorant of rules, regulations and laws. We're all a bunch of know-it-alls.:D :rolleyes:

MRS FLYIN VEE
02-04-2004, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Essex502
Read the text of the flag code...flags are NOT allowed on vehicles unless PROPERLY displayed. I've seen huge 6' flags flying off the back end of beat-up pickup trucks all tattered and dirty. Very wrong etiquette. Flags are also not to touch the ground. They are not to be display on anything disposable. They are not to be put on objects where the image will be easily torn. All of the preceeding have been done in our fervor to be "patriotic". While the sentiment is right the methods are not.
I agree. I was just trying to make a point.. If you put a flag up then do what is right. keep a light on it, keep it off the ground and etc.. A true american does all this. but if you are not going to do it right then don't fly it.. ;)

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 01:13 PM
I confess my flag has touched the ground a few times. But it is a very nice flag and I can't afford to replace it every time I get fumble fingerd. :(

Ziggy
02-04-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Essex502
Read the text of the flag code...flags are NOT allowed on vehicles unless PROPERLY displayed. I've seen huge 6' flags flying off the back end of beat-up pickup trucks all tattered and dirty. Very wrong etiquette. Flags are also not to touch the ground. They are not to be display on anything disposable. They are not to be put on objects where the image will be easily torn. All of the preceeding have been done in our fervor to be "patriotic". While the sentiment is right the methods are not.
Think you meant the Flag "should not" do all those things, right?:D j/k
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I fly a Flag at my home 24/7 and try to follow the Flag etiquette to the "T". Its well lit at nights and comes down if we have inclimate weather, its 20' feet above the ground and has no obsticles that can damage it. I've gotten high praise from my Veteran neighbors and even seem to have spread the spirit among other neighbors who have put up flagpoles/Flags since.
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It's a great country we live in and I sincerely hope the generations to come don't loose sight of what it took for our Servicemen to give us all the freedom we so love. Respectful treatment of our Nations Flag should be taught and instilled but that seems to have gone to the wayside... I think someone said that KidRock probably thinks he's being Patriotic by wearing it but is ignorant of Flag etiquette...very likely and also why I say it should be taught early on.

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 01:32 PM
I have always flown the flag on Patriotic holidays (including sept 17th). Since 911 I fly an additional flag as well (one that I always liked). It is a revolutionary war Navel Jack. It has horizontal red and white stripes and a Timber Rattlesnake (our nation's first animal symbol) diagonally accross it and those fine words "DON'T TREAD ON ME" along the bottom.:cool:

Essex502
02-04-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Ziggy
Think you meant the Flag "should not" do all those things, right?:D j/k
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I fly a Flag at my home 24/7 and try to follow the Flag etiquette to the "T". Its well lit at nights and comes down if we have inclimate weather, its 20' feet above the ground and has no obsticles that can damage it. I've gotten high praise from my Veteran neighbors and even seem to have spread the spirit among other neighbors who have put up flagpoles/Flags since.
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It's a great country we live in and I sincerely hope the generations to come don't loose sight of what it took for our Servicemen to give us all the freedom we so love. Respectful treatment of our Nations Flag should be taught and instilled but that seems to have gone to the wayside... I think someone said that KidRock probably thinks he's being Patriotic by wearing it but is ignorant of Flag etiquette...very likely and also why I say it should be taught early on.
Yep! You are right: "should not"!:D

LASERRAY
02-04-2004, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
I have always flown the flag on Patriotic holidays (including sept 17th). Since 911 I fly an additional flag as well (one that I always liked). It is a revolutionary war Navel Jack. It has horizontal red and white stripes and a Timber Rattlesnake (our nation's first animal symbol) diagonally accross it and those fine words "DON'T TREAD ON ME" along the bottom.:cool: September 17th?:confused: What's that?

eliminatedsprinter
02-04-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by LASERRAY
September 17th?:confused: What's that?
An old former national holiday that today's brand of political hacks choose not to celebrate anymore. It used to be a big deal and a national holiday. It was called Constitution day and it is the anniversary of the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.:cool:

MagicMtnDan
02-04-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by Ziggy
Think you meant the Flag "should not" do all those things, right?:D j/k
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I fly a Flag at my home 24/7 and try to follow the Flag etiquette to the "T". Its well lit at nights and comes down if we have inclimate weather, its 20' feet above the ground and has no obsticles that can damage it. I've gotten high praise from my Veteran neighbors and even seem to have spread the spirit among other neighbors who have put up flagpoles/Flags since.
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It's a great country we live in and I sincerely hope the generations to come don't loose sight of what it took for our Servicemen to give us all the freedom we so love. Respectful treatment of our Nations Flag should be taught and instilled but that seems to have gone to the wayside... I think someone said that KidRock probably thinks he's being Patriotic by wearing it but is ignorant of Flag etiquette...very likely and also why I say it should be taught early on.
Thanks Ziggy for flying the flag, doing it right and helping others understand the importance of proper flag etiquette.

LVjetboy
02-08-2004, 02:40 AM
Geez. Talk about making a mountain out of Janet's mole hill.
MagicMtnDan, maybe you should change your avatar? Your conservative views don't seem to jive with the Swollen Member beer with a twirling a** thong sorta image you'd like to project? Is an a** thong more conservative than a breast pasty? What a joke. Hypocritical? Just a thought.
I can't believe all the freakin' uptight oh-my god comments posted here. So what? Are a women's breasts evil now? Something we all gladly s*cked as kids. Go ahead try to deny. Some gladly now. :) At least those who'd admit. So what's the big deal? Maybe we should burn her at the stake. After all, she's probably an evil witch trying to pervert our finer sensibilities.
Think big picuture. A guy no problem, a girl oh my god. Ya a stunt, so what? Freakin' unbelievable!
jer

framer1
02-08-2004, 05:56 AM
lvjetboy, It's really simple it's called the right time and place;) Sandbar it's great, Superbowl halftime not so great.

HammerDown
02-08-2004, 06:10 AM
Jer, personally I could give a Rats A$$ about the Stupit Bowl or Miss Jacksons Boob. However I can understand a Family sitting down with there children to watch the SB maybe being a little upset with such a stunt.
There's a time and place for everything, maybe both were wrong for this stunt.:rolleyes:

MagicMtnDan
02-08-2004, 06:16 AM
Originally posted by LVjetboy
Geez. Talk about making a mountain out of Janet's mole hill.
MagicMtnDan, maybe you should change your avatar? Your conservative views don't seem to jive with the Swollen Member beer with a twirling a** thong sorta image you'd like to project? Is an a** thong more conservative than a breast pasty? What a joke. Hypocritical? Just a thought.
I can't believe all the freakin' uptight oh-my god comments posted here. So what? Are a women's breasts evil now? Something we all gladly s*cked as kids. Go ahead try to deny. Some gladly now. :) At least those who'd admit. So what's the big deal? Maybe we should burn her at the stake. After all, she's probably an evil witch trying to pervert our finer sensibilities.
Think big picuture. A guy no problem, a girl oh my god. Ya a stunt, so what? Freakin' unbelievable!
jer
If you read through this thread you should understand why I'm completely against what she did and the SB show. I'm not uptight at all - I think there should be a "Boob Channel" where we can see perfect sets of boobs 24/7 but then when you change to Boob Channel you expect to see boobies all the time.
When millions of folks watch the Super Bowl they expect to see (a) a football game (hopefully a great one like this one was), (b) a pre-game show that takes forever and is usually filled with patriotic imagery and music, and (c) a half-time show that has too much going on in an attempt to "entertain us."
We didn't expect MTV to put on a frenetic production filled with hip-hoppin, crotch grabbin', smack talking (offensive lyrics), flag-wearin', 80's dance-steppin', boob-floppin.
There's a time and a place for everything and this was neither the time nor the place for that "show." And if you had kids (not young adults) watching you probably would be incensed about the entire show.
I'm not incensed nor am I pissed. I flat out think the show was totally inappropriate and don't want to see that happen again. Just show us the talking heads, the halftime highlights and some previous Super Bowl highlights and let them play the 2nd half in a reasonable time (another problem with the halftime shows is that they're too damn long).
Now, about that Boob Channel...
http://users.ez2.net/ohp/Nikki/Brook%20Burke%20Stuff%20August%202003%20Page04.jpg

LASERRAY
02-08-2004, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
An old former national holiday that today's brand of political hacks choose not to celebrate anymore. It used to be a big deal and a national holiday. It was called Constitution day and it is the anniversary of the ratification of the U.S. Constitution.:cool: Thanks for the education. I must have forgotten about that day specific.:)
I'm pissed about the minimalization of Arbor Day.:wink: