Bowling for Columbine...

[betty boop]

Just wondering since most of you are from the States, what was your thoughts and feelings about this movie?? I never knew the laws down there were the way they showed them and sure gave me a new perspective on the the States...oh along with Dickhead Clark and Heston there old buddy..all in all there was alot of very sad footage on there - makes one think that's for sure....Micheal Moore was great - very persistent...

[Havasu Cig]

Michael Moore is a F@$king jerkoff. I would not watch any movie he made even if someone payed me.:mad:

[betty boop]

why is that???? what am i missing??

[SoCalOffshore]

Michael Moore is an asshole and I wish he would crawl back under the rock he came from. Cities with the most strict gun control laws, have the highest crime and violence rates. Cities with the least gun control laws have the least amount of crime and violence. Why? Because gun control laws have nothing to do with gun violence. What does? Welfare, kids growing up without parrents, gangs, lack of morals or care for themselves or anyone else. Any other questions, just let me know. :D

[Sleek-Jet]

Michael Moore makes satiricle films disguised as documentories, just as him, he admits it.
The problem is that everyone takes them as these deep social documentories... never underestimate the ignorance of the general public. :rolleyes:
The guy is a hack, but he's made alot of money.

[betty boop]

the reason for this thread i guess is that i am sitting here waiting anxiously for the jury to come to a conclusion in an attempted murder case in b.c. - my dad's best friend separated from his wife there in there 60's, and she lost it one night and tried to kill him - 3 shots into him, was in the hospital for a year and is still recovering - been 2 years this April - he still has a major surgery to go - his stomache is still wide open......it just makes me wonder about the gun laws and shit - plus it scares me, if she walks will she try it agian and since he hangs at my parents alot, what will she do to them????:(

[Havasu Cig]

Sounds like she is the problem, not the gun. You take guns away and there will still be violence, but now the innocent don't have a way to protect themselves.
Guns are a great equalizer for people to protect themselves with. With a little training most can be competent enough to use one to prtect themselves or their family.
Take gun rights away and what is the elderly person, female ect... going to do when face with a threat in their home?
Michael Moore is an extreme left wing nut.:mad:

[Sleek-Jet]

That's why I have a conceled carry permit. If it comes down to them or me... sorry, it's them.
Someone sitting around that an attacker knows does not have a way of defending themselves is a fantastic target.
Now, lets say our home-body has a .45 in the drawer, that changes things a little for the attacker, doesn't it??

[MagicMtnDan]

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[carbonmarine]

GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE...... Morons do.... Simply getting rid of Guns is simply not the answer...
In fact, its wholly Un-American to even begin to have that discussion. The left has no argument substanciated in fact.
Also, theres more to know about Americans, Basic Freedoms provided by our Constitution before you enter into any discussion....
If you want learn to see the other side, substanciated by facts, reliable data comipled over many, many years by the FBI presented in form of the UCR ( Inform Crime Report) and other areas such a Encominics... ** I high suggest you read the book by John Lott called " More Guns , Less Crime "
Rick32
:cool:

[Pointerman]

Ahhh, but you forget. Our original poster is from our slightly stupid neigboring nation up North. He has this kind of liberal dribble fed to him daily and is only a product of his nations misguided social reform. The only thing Canada has to offer is cheap medicine.

[betty boop]

hey, careful I am Canadian and very sensitive!!!!:D

[bigq]

Take a look here. It might help explain that bone head.
Columbine big cut and paste (http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html)
That guy is so full of crap. A person that feeds off fear and bringing down other people.:yuk:

[78Eliminator]

Instead of just bashing Moore, why don't we give this guy some intelligent responses? How about the fact that Moore edits and cuts out parts of Hestons speech where he expresses his condolences for the Columbine incident?
I believe there is a website out there that shows it all about Moore. Do you guys know what "spin" is? Well, Moore specializes in it!!!!! Somebody post that website URL that exposes Moore. That will shed some light on him. America is not as bad as he makes it out. He needs to take some trips to a few third world countries to find out what bad really is.......
The bottom line that Moore doesn't understand is that everyone is responsibe for their own actions. No matter what people say to you or what is going on around you, you are ALWAYS responsible for your own actions. Accountabilty, not blame, has always been my opinion and mission statement.

[Dave C]

ya BFC is a big time spin piece. Total propaganda.
Don't take it too seriously.

[betty boop]

it's a good thing you guys are here to clear this all up!!!

[bigq]

Originally posted by 78Eliminator
Instead of just bashing Moore, why don't we give this guy some intelligent responses? How about the fact that Moore edits and cuts out parts of Hestons speech where he expresses his condolences for the Columbine incident?
I believe there is a website out there that shows it all about Moore. Do you guys know what "spin" is? Well, Moore specializes in it!!!!! Somebody post that website URL that exposes Moore. That will shed some light on him. America is not as bad as he makes it out. He needs to take some trips to a few third world countries to find out what bad really is.......
The bottom line that Moore doesn't understand is that everyone is responsibe for their own actions. No matter what people say to you or what is going on around you, you are ALWAYS responsible for your own actions. Accountabilty, not blame, has always been my opinion and mission statement.
See my link.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D

[canuck1]

Originally posted by Pointerman
Ahhh, but you forget. Our original poster is from our slightly stupid neigboring nation up North. He has this kind of liberal dribble fed to him daily and is only a product of his nations misguided social reform. The only thing Canada has to offer is cheap medicine.
Nice post JACK ASS:rolleyes:
Now go read her question again and try to pull your head out of your ass and respond again

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

I'm going to be forced to watch Moore's movie for a class this semester and I'm already dreading it. He was all set to come to our campus and show it last semester and everyone here was so excited:yuk: Fires in October scared the sissy away. Charleton Heston would have been out with the firemen pulling hose.

[Jungle Boy]

Originally posted by Pointerman
Ahhh, but you forget. Our original poster is from our slightly stupid neigboring nation up North. He has this kind of liberal dribble fed to him daily and is only a product of his nations misguided social reform. The only thing Canada has to offer is cheap medicine.
**** you.

[FMluvswater]

Originally posted by Pointerman
Ahhh, but you forget. Our original poster is from our slightly stupid neigboring nation up North. He has this kind of liberal dribble fed to him daily and is only a product of his nations misguided social reform. The only thing Canada has to offer is cheap medicine.
Don't forget polite. We Canadians are known for our politeness. Please have a steaming cup of shut the **** up and have a nice day. :)

[BiggusJimbus]

As stated by BigQ,
This should offer some perspective on the BFC issue and Michael Moore specifically...
http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html
It is also very interesting to read the author dissect the "rebuttal" to the "whakos" on Moore's own website.

[burbanite]

Try to come into my house with bad intentions or think you can beat the shit out of me for no reason and you'll see what awaits you...
Signature says it all...

[hoolign]

Originally posted by Pointerman
Ahhh, but you forget. Our original poster is from our slightly stupid neigboring nation up North. He has this kind of liberal dribble fed to him daily and is only a product of his nations misguided social reform. The only thing Canada has to offer is cheap medicine.
another moronic post from someone who ,likely does'nt have the required I.Q to get the shreddies box open
**** you cocksucker!

[Pointerman]

Originally posted by sunbunny
the reason for this thread i guess is that i am sitting here waiting anxiously for the jury to come to a conclusion in an attempted murder case in b.c. - my dad's best friend separated from his wife there in there 60's, and she lost it one night and tried to kill him - 3 shots into him, was in the hospital for a year and is still recovering - been 2 years this April - he still has a major surgery to go - his stomache is still wide open......it just makes me wonder about the gun laws and shit - plus it scares me, if she walks will she try it agian and since he hangs at my parents alot, what will she do to them????:(
My comments about our Northern neighbor were due to this post from the OP. The mentality that the solution to this issue is the elimination of all guns rather than dealing with the root of the problem which is the looney person that pulled the trigger or the justice system that allows someone like this to walk. If this person didn't have a gun she would have grabbed a knife.
Sorry about offending an entire nation, but Canada is just one of many nations that has rolled over on the gun control issue and bought the liberal dribble hook, line and sinker.
Now back our our reguarly scheduled insults and other assorted comments.

[Pointerman]

Originally posted by hoolign
another moronic post from someone who ,likely does'nt have the required I.Q to get the shreddies box open
**** you cocksucker!
Please. At least I know how to use the caps button and when to punctuate a sentence. Let me show you how your sentence should have read.
"Another moronic post from someone who likely doesn't have the required IQ to get the shreddies box open.
**** you cock sucker!"
Happy to help you with your posts. :D

[mirvin]

People who don't like firearms have no problem blaming this inanimate object for action of humans!! If we applied the same logic then naturally we should have no cars, liquer, etc.
Mr. Moore along with his cohorts attemp to blame guns for the problems of people. Gun laws don't work because criminals do not obey the laws.
Are you aware that in California, most of the lawmakers who have succeeded in keeping legal firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens actually have a licence to carry a firearm themselves??
Please refer to Burbanite signature;)
Mirvin:)

[BUSTI]

Sunnybunny,
The Michael Moore movie is an editorial piece devoid of whole facts and truths.... he has an anti Americn agenda. In the states we refer to it as self loathing. He truely stands for the exact opposite of what America stands for. He has drawn a conclusion and then he manipulates the half facts and truths to fabricate eveidence to substantiate his beliefs.
He is an addmitted socialist! He does not believe in the corner stone principle of American values which is the right and freedom to own your own property! In America property rights is the fundamental right from which all other rights flow. Especially the right to bare arms. The right to your own life, liberty, pursuit of happiness and the right to self determination is uniquely American! From this concept the right to protect you and yours as well as your property is the essential back bone of gun ownership in the United States.
No insult implied or intended however this maybe a very hard thig for Canadians to fully comprehend as your country willfully abdicated its right to bare arms to its government when you allowed the government to ban private gun ownership. The right to own a gun is the most precious of all property rights in this country and our founding fathers new it. It is why the founding fathers made it an irravocable right...that is the right to bare arms by our private citizens that can never be abridged as gaurunteed by the constituion! I believe it was Thomas Jefferson that said not in so many words that private gun ownership was our first line of defemce against tyranny imposed by government. You see sunnyBunny...Americans well know that with out the barrel of a gun America would not be here today!
Now back to Michael moore...because he is a socialist and socialst hate property rights...he would obviosly hate our most sacred right which is that of private gun ownership. If the socialist allow guns to be a fundamental right how than can they ever get us to believe that we are intitled to our land, money, companies, crops , manufactured goods, inventions, Microsoft windows, hitech inventions, medicines, and ultimately our very lifes and labors especially our pursuit of happiness and really what they want ....our intellectually property..or what we think!
It is the quintiscential leftist commie bullshit! Ya know every leftist fascist,commie, socialist puke in the world was anti gun ownership. namely Mayo, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Ayatollah Kohmeni, Pol Pot, including the prime ministers of france, canada, and most of the leftist western world.
IF YOU WANT TO READ ABOUT THE GUN OWNERSHIP IS IN AMERICA AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE POISTIVE ENFLUENCES GUN OWNERSHIP HAS HAD INAMERICA
PLEASE DR. JOHN LOTT'S BOOK
MORE GUNS LESS CRIME!
It is filled with real facts, whole truths, and the author when he started to compile the data did not have a conclusion already in mind. Michael Moore is a liar! Guns stop more crime in America than the self hating American bashing mainstream media will ever tell you.
THEY CAN HAVE MY GUN WHEN THEY PRY IT FROM MY DEAD COLD HAND!

[sorry dog]

Tom Brown says:
"I've paid my gun tax dammit, so you guys will have to pry this gun from my frost bitten fingers, eh.
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[Tom Brown]

What are you looking at, punk? :mad:

[HavasuDreamin']

Originally posted by Pointerman
The mentality that the solution to this issue is the elimination of all guns rather than dealing with the root of the problem which is the looney person that pulled the trigger or the justice system that allows someone like this to walk.
So instead of answering by attacking the root of the problem (in Canada - the laws and law makers), you insult an entire nation (not the root of the problem........if there even is a problem....I don't follow my Canadian politics too closely ). ;)
As previously posted, nice response. :rolleyes:

[BUSTI]

AMERICA IS THE GREATEST FORCE OF GOOD IN THE WORLD TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE GUNS!
just ask the Iraqiis that Saddam killed if they wish they could have freely owned guns!

[Pointerman]

Amen Busti!
Theoretically banning all guns could work if you somehow found a way to remove every single gun from the hands of every person (civilian or military) in every country at the exact same time. Until you can accomplish that there will always be a black market for guns that criminals will not hesitate to take advantage of.
I have a firm belief that I have a right to defend myself since my local government isn't willing to have a police officer camp outside my front door 24x7. Since my government can't protect me from the folks that choose not to obey the laws I choose to protect myself and my family. Seems pretty logical to me.
The police will only arrive at my house after it is too late. They may prosecute the criminal if they catch him, but the damage to health or life would already be done.

[Pointerman]

Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
So instead of answering by attacking the root of the problem (in Canada - the laws and law makers), you insult an entire nation (not the root of the problem........if there even is a problem....I don't follow my Canadian politics too closely ). ;)
As previously posted, nice response. :rolleyes:
Sorry, I wasn't aware that France was the only nation we were allowed to insult. I withdraw my original comments. :rolleyes:

[canuck1]

Busti
I may be a little slow but the attitude towards gun ownership thing here is no different than in say Montana. Western Canadians in general don't like or agree with those IDIOTS from the east(read government). Gun ownership wasn't banned, they are required to be registered. Here in Alberta I think we have maybe a 50% compliance rate,maybe.
I've seen the movie and I've read the rebutals, both are a lot slanted.
As for the BS shots that pointerman took they just show how much the US really doesn't know about its northern neighbor.
And I do agree with most, that if you come after my family I will do what it takes to stop you

[Jungle Boy]

I was out of line some what. Us people in the Canada West do not generally support our lefty government gun policy. There are a VERY FEW people ever killed by an registered gun. The bad guys don't register guns and never will. More people are killed with stabs wounds, hands and feet than guns in our country. It's huge waste of money and is hugely debated right now. I know that if I was awakened by the crackhead that slote my snowmoble a month ago I would have probably snapped and put a shot through his truck. I don't know who was the lucky one that I was dead drunk that night and did not wake up.

[Jungle Boy]

Holly shit Mike. I'm afraid we must think a like. Scarey.:D :eek:

[Tom Brown]

I think gun control is a good idea. :)
... can't be too safe. :)

[canuck1]

JB
I'll bring the beer and thanks for the sled....did you want it back?

[Pointerman]

Canuck,
Sorry for maligning an entire country based on the law it passed. I have strong feelings on this issue as do most Americans. There is a great deal of pressure on gun ownership in the US and other nations around us caving on the issue only increases the pressure. Every study I have ever read shows that crime increases immediately after the guns of citizens are melted.
I am very sorry if you are one of those folks that understands how important self defense is, but you live in a nation that chooses to make you a criminal if you were to ever protect your family. I hope that we manage to fight off this tide in America so my son can grow up and appreciate this freedom.

[canuck1]

Originally posted by Tom Brown
I think gun control is a good idea. :)
... can't be too safe. :)
I think that the protection that you are looking for Tom is called a rubber;)

[canuck1]

Originally posted by Pointerman
Canuck,
Sorry for maligning an entire country based on the law it passed. I have strong feelings on this issue as do most Americans. There is a great deal of pressure on gun ownership in the US and other nations around us caving on the issue only increases the pressure. Every study I have ever read shows that crime increases immediately after the guns of citizens are melted.
I am very sorry if you are one of those folks that understands how important self defense is, but you live in a nation that chooses to make you a criminal if you were to ever protect your family. I hope that we manage to fight off this tide in America so my son can grow up and appreciate this freedom.
The gun control thing will be gone, shortly I hope

[Pointerman]

Best of luck. Make sure you vote often. :)

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by canuck1
The gun control thing will be gone, shortly I hope
Is PM PM talking about whacking it? Gun control, I mean?

[BUSTI]

Gun registration on a national level is the first step to gun bannishment. There are only 4 issues I believe that will ever incite the American public to violently revolt against its government......they are real free political speech, gun ownership, freedom of religion and the right to own your business. Because these 4 issues are at the core of what really sets Americans apart from other nations Americans will always look a bit cromagnon to the other so called western nations.
Of course there are many other things that are uniquely American but I do believe the day any government state or federal tries to prevent free speech, outlaw guns, tell us we must work for the greater good of the socoety and not our own selfish interests or that we cant send our kids to sunday school then that government is going to have to protect it self from our guns ...because as I pointed out earlier we have already freed ourselves from tyranny once before and we will do it again if needed!

[betty boop]

i'm thinking this is kind of a "HOT" topic around here!!!

[mirvin]

Originally posted by sunbunny
i'm thinking this is kind of a "HOT" topic around here!!!
To put it lightly:D

[betty boop]

the whole gun thing has never been an issue to me - my dad is a butcher, has many guns, i've done alot of shooting - but when they talk about the little kids getting a hold of the guns, that bothered me......

[eliminatedsprinter]

Both M. Moore and Guns are a hot button topic.
M. Moore is a fraud on all levels. In B F C he not only misrepresents the effects of gun ownership, he also misrepresents our nation's gun laws by making them appear to be much more lax than they are.

[Pointerman]

And that is an issue of individual responsibility. I fully expect to be prosecuted if I ever leave a gun laying around and my son uses it for evil. I either need to secure the gun or make sure my son is capable of handling the responsibility of having a gun around the house. I personally have always locked my guns. I have a wall safe in my bedroom that opens rather quickly and it contains a pistol in a holster that pops out when opened. Safe for my son, but I should be able to get to it if someone is pounding on my locked bedroom door.

[mirvin]

The problem with guns, as in most issues in life, is that stupid people have access to them. Stupid people leave loaded guns sitting around and then their child gets ahold of them or they get stolen and the rest of us get the blame instead of that stupid person.
I don't even have kids and my stuff is in a safe!!
Mirvin

[betty boop]

it's funny - my dad never had his stuff locked up - always out of sight, but back then it was never a big deal - all farmers had guns that kind of thing....then all of a sudden it became a huge issue and people got all wigged out about it

[burbanite]

I have no idea how much time I spend each week letting the powers that be know exactly how I feel about this issue, doesn't matter really as it needs to be done and I encourage each and every one of you to do the same. Information is easily obtainable, this is a good place to start. (http://www.packing.org./)
The sneaky bastard politicians have a nasty habit of piggy backing touchy issues like this onto other bills, you have to keep a close eye on them.
Make your State representatives responsible for letting you know how they will vote on things that concern you, they should be hearing from you regularly.
September 9th is the date when the err.."assault weapons" ban either sunsets or is renewed (if that happens it is likely to have additions to it), don't let it slip by, take a stance right now and support the sunset option - for you, your families and maybe one day, even for me...

[mirvin]

Originally posted by sunbunny
it's funny - my dad never had his stuff locked up - always out of sight, but back then it was never a big deal - all farmers had guns that kind of thing....then all of a sudden it became a huge issue and people got all wigged out about it
sunbunny, you've just enforced the stupid people issue. My dad always (and still does) keep his stuff in the hall closet!! The thing is that at a young age he tought us to respect firearms and how to use them safely and properly which is something that must be taught and learned. Stupid people don't learn very well;)

[Ducatista]

When I think of Michael Moore, the word "traitor" comes to mind. He should be banished to Canada! Just kidding aboot the second part! You Canuks seem to be a feisty proud bunch....hmmmm, reminds me of us. Above my shotgun display case hangs a pewter plate that reads: "A well regulates Milita being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
Know it, learn it, live it
"

[CAHotRodBoy]

Originally posted by mirvin
sunbunny, you've just enforced the stupid people issue. My dad always (and still does) keep his stuff in the hall closet!! The thing is that at a young age he tought us to respect firearms and how to use them safely and properly which is something that must be taught and learned. Stupid people don't learn very well;)
100% correct!
I was born in rural New England in the 50's so it was a different time but my father taught me not to touch anything that didn't belong to me, including his guns. We were taught to respect others and their property and to value our own. When I got my first BB gun at maybe ten yers of age I was taught gun safety. It was constantly reinforced as I stepped up to .22's, .410's, 20 & 12 gauges, 30-06, etc, and on every hunting trip or target practice session. I have never had an incedent with a firearm.
These days it seams that parents let their kids run wild and do what ever they want. They (kids) have no boundaries so when they see a gun they are naturaly going to play with it. They think everything belongs to them, whether it is a gun or a jelly donut!
It goes back to accepting responsibilty for your own actions. We can't pass laws to try to make everything idiot proof. Let's let Darwinism take its own path! :D :eek:

[OGShocker]

Originally posted by sunbunny
hey, careful I am Canadian and very sensitive!!!!:D
Really?
Kiss my gun owning, US Flag waving, war mongering ASS!;)
BTW, I spend my summers in Saskatchewan. Canada west of Winnapeg is fine by me. Sorry if I hurt your feelings...:D
PS. Michael Moore SUCKS!

[Tom Brown]

Saskatchewan sucks. http://www.***boat.com/ubb/icons/icon13.gif

[OGShocker]

No, it BLOWS!

[mirvin]

Originally posted by Ducatista
When I think of Michael Moore, the word "traitor" comes to mind. He should be banished to Canada! Just kidding aboot the second part! You Canuks seem to be a feisty proud bunch....hmmmm, reminds me of us. Above my shotgun display case hangs a pewter plate that reads: "A well regulates Milita being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."
Know it, learn it, live it
"
Hey Ducatista, I got a big print out of the 2nd Ammendment pinned on my wall in my office ( I work in "Hollywood"), you should see the people freak out when they see it:D It's kinda funny. These are the same people who think the police wil protect them:rolleyes:

[Chase]

So why are you still here then Tom??

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by mirvin
... you should see the people freak out when they see it
Do they freak more when you're cleaning your glock while they read it?

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by Chase
So why are you still here then Tom??
Chicks.

[Chase]

Originally posted by Tom Brown
Chicks.
You want Chicks...come to Saskatoon.

[Tom Brown]

Are you running a brothel on the side, Chase?

[Chase]

Maybe...

[Tom Brown]

We need to hang out more.

[Chase]

Well yeah.....So close yet so far

[mirvin]

Originally posted by Tom Brown
Do they freak more when you're cleaning your glock while they read it?
Glock?? How un-American:D

[betty boop]

i think i need to clear some things up here boys and girls -- yes my dad did not lock his guns up but as others said we were taught to respect others property, not to touch it - especially when it came to guns - my dad taught me how to use them properly so there wouldn't be any problems - oh and he didn't store them with bullets in them - those were locked away - i know someone could have taken the gun , etc.,,, but anyway - as a family of gun owners, we to have never had an incident with them...i to believe it's the irresponsible gun owners that are causing the problems - just wanted others to know that that is not who we are :D

[betty boop]

oh and by the way - i originally come from British Columbia....and no you didn't hurt my feelings - opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!!!

[mirvin]

Originally posted by sunbunny
oh and by the way - i originally come from British Columbia....and no you didn't hurt my feelings - opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!!!
Yep!!;)

[OGShocker]

Originally posted by sunbunny
oh and by the way - i originally come from British Columbia....and no you didn't hurt my feelings - opinions are like assholes, everyone has one!!!
That was a good one.... Did you think it up all by yourself?
Glock? NEVER! Colt .45 1911 Series 80, Oh yeah!.

[coolchange]

Ask my 70 year old dad about waking up at 3 a.m. with a crack head standin in his bedroom.( Thank God I couldn't get rid of that squeek in the hardwood floor). Fortunatly my mom made him stop sleepin with the .38 under his pillow a long time ago so the guy got a head start. They caught him anyway and he did time.

[betty boop]

that is pretty scary - i know my husband would like a gun - but we have a 4 year old and i just wouldn't be comfortable with a gun in my house - even if it was locked up!!:(

[Havasu Cig]

Originally posted by OGShocker
That was a good one.... Did you think it up all by yourself?
Glock? NEVER! Colt .45 1911 Series 80, Oh yeah!.
I own 4 Glocks and they are really great guns. No external safety to worry about (except on the trigger) and reliable. I keep three loaded in strategic places in my house.
I also keep a 1911 cocked & locked, a shotgun and a long gun. You never know what kind of threat you might encounter.:D
BTW: I don't have any kids.

[mirvin]

Originally posted by sunbunny
that is pretty scary - i know my husband would like a gun - but we have a 4 year old and i just wouldn't be comfortable with a gun in my house - even if it was locked up!!:(
Huh? I wouldn't feel comfortable without a gun in my house:) I know what you mean though. My wife always says "I don't know why you think you have to have those things" to which I reply "well hopefully you'll never find out" :)
THere's something important about keeping it locked up too, you need to remember to unlock it when you get home:)
Mirvin:cool:

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

I felt a lot more comfortable having one a couple nights ago when some huge guy showed up at our house. We live in the boondocks and there are no streetlights. He walked in the dark and ended up on our doorstep. I'm sure if we hadn't been home, we'd have been burglarized. He said he was looking for some guy that rode a banshee. While Jeff was talking to him on the front porch, I was opening up the safe and getting ready. It would have taken the sheriff two hours to get here.
The next morning, we realized he broke my son's BMX bike trying to ride it away. Then he went down the road and tried to rip off my neighbors car.
The Cooper execution news just reinforces to me why we need to protect our family with firearms.

[mirvin]

Look out Mr. Sportin' Wood!!! A whole buncha gunluvin loonies just fell in love with yer Mrs's:D
Mirvin;)

[Hallett19]

I have a funny story for you, this pile of shit michael moore, when I was in NY, he was arguing with the subway pass salesman trying to sneak his kids in under the turnstyle thing. This old nag he was with was yelling and all these people are trying to get in and get on the train and they are calling him a fat ****, it was hillarious !!!! I have a .40 cal Glock 22C and would have loved to brandish that fine piece to him in that subway !!!

[Havasu Cig]

The Glock 22 is a nice carry weapon. Good caliber and a compact frame. I have a 19, 22, and two 23's.;)

[sorry dog]

I'm surprised yall Canada-ites don't have more guns. With all the varmints we got around here, you gotta have'em for self defence. I can just imagine whatch'all got up there with Sasquashes and shit running around.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=587774

[MagicMtnDan]

Originally posted by sorry dog
I'm surprised yall Canada-ites don't have more guns. With all the varmints we got around here, you gotta have'em for self defence. I can just imagine whatch'all got up there with Sasquashes and shit running around.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=587774
You've got some talented deer up there! How do they learn to stand upright like that? :D

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
You've got some talented deer up there! How do they learn to stand upright like that? :D
ROTFLMAO!

[Tom Brown]

Nice looking truck, Dog. :)
What is it? Silverado?

[Tom Brown]

By the way, we gots varmits like you wouldn't believe but only a handful of us shoot the **** out of them.

[canuck1]

Tom Brown Duck hunter

[betty boop]

can you believe these Americans are still talking about the Sasquatch!!!!!!!!!! That is sooooooooooooo funny!!!! :D

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
http://www.spleenville.com/journal/archives/AndTheLoserIs-X-thumb.gif
http://www.fritzliess.com/movabletype/archives/images/moore_dude_book.jpg
http://www.dixiedrifter.com/boycott/michael-moore.jpg
Thank you for setting our Canadian Bro straight on that Douche Bag Michael Moore. I'd be really happy if he moved to France or England like so many other stars (defined as those who mistake fame for wisdom)
Oh and the old standard still applies...
If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by sorry dog
I'm surprised yall Canada-ites don't have more guns. With all the varmints we got around here, you gotta have'em for self defence. I can just imagine whatch'all got up there with Sasquashes and shit running around.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=587774
I think he's dancing a jig!!!
:D

[sorry dog]

Actually Tom,
That is a friend's truck. Unfortunately the ham is covering his tag which says LUV2HUNT. This same friend is having his 7th deer head mounted this year. No shit... you gotta love Alabama (Stoppin grounds for the JBB clan before they got all citified and moved off to Alanta.
Oh, and another thing, that was a great skinning shed but a tornado took it away 2 years ago. That shit happens round here sometimes.

[Charley]

Originally posted by Havasu Cig
Michael Moore is a F@$king jerkoff. I would not watch any movie he made even if someone payed me.:mad:
LMAO... well said Chris .... I 's just like to add : bleeding heart dumbass

[quiet riot]

that is pretty scary - i know my husband would like a gun - but we have a 4 year old and i just wouldn't be comfortable with a gun in my house - even if it was locked up!!
All people (and kids) are different, and my guns are kept locked. Ever since my son was about 7 and got his first gun, its been his responsibility to clean the guns (he likes to take em apart anyhows.) Both he and my 5 yr old daughter know how to open the safes and how to act around guns and when its appropriate to have them (never around other people, only when I'm home w/permission, never take them from the room without me, etc.) I would trust my 5 year old with a gun more than any adult I know, including my hunting buddies.
I'm far more comfortable having my kids know as much about guns as possible, especially the consequences of handling them, then having them grow up not knowing much about them and learning from from some neighbors kid down the road who might get one from their parents and not know how to treat them.
Whether you believe it or not, every kid will someday be exposed to a gun, knife, drugs/alcohol, illegal behavior, teenage driver, etc. when a mature adult isn't around to supervise. I am much happier knowing I am the one teaching them this stuff and not some blockhead punk that just found his daddies gun for the first time at a sleepover.
Would you trust your kids know what to do if they found a gun? On the street? Had a friend hand them one at a sleepover? Hands on edjucation is the best thing I've found for my kids to understand guns, how they operate and what they can do.
just my .02, and as said early, this doesn't apply to all people.
jd

[Forkin' Crazy]

To me, "gun control" is hitting what you are aiming!:)
If it weren't a gun, it would be a bat, cross bow, or something else. Fear a government who fears gun ownership.
You poor Canucks have been screwed by a registration system that will not work. Last I heard it was over budget by 10X....? That they damn sure could have spent somewhere else!:frown:

[Jungle Boy]

Originally posted by Forkin' Crazy
To me, "gun control" is hitting what you are aiming!:)
You poor Canucks have been screwed by a registration system that will not work. Last I heard it was over budget by 10X....? That they damn sure could have spent somewhere else!:frown:
EXACTLY:(
Even the cops say it won't work. 1 billion dollars would put alot more cops on the streets for a long time so they can chase down the dickheads that actually doing the crimes.

[MagicMtnDan]

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[Chase]

Well I can see this is one of those controversial issues where everyone feels they are right no matter what. Here is my opinion, I feel that the best form of gun control is education...not registration or the banning of the guns. I grew up around guns, since I lived on the farm, the guns were kept in the closet, or for those used more frequently, in the corner by the door...not loaded. I learned as a child what the guns were, how to use them, and most importantly how to handle them safely. Only be knowing about the guns, do you prevent the accidends. Registration will not prevent the crimes or the accidents, since a criminal is not going to have a registered gun.
Right now there are 10 guns in my home, which I have lockable cabinets for them...however my Browning Citori is sitting in the living room right now, since I brought it in from the truck the other night..coming back from the gun club. My wife never says anything, since she is comfortable handling the guns as well. She has taken the proper training as well and feels that firearm education is important for everyone, whether they own a gun or not.
I am a proud gun owner, who loves to hunt and shoot, and I admit my guns are registered, some because I bought them after this registration bullshit came in, and some because I registered them to be law abiding..????
Gun control is using both hands...oh yeah and it is also hitting what you are aiming at.
Guns are not dangerous..it is the person pointing the gun.
Quiet Riot I like your thinking
Jungle Boy..we have to meet..I think we could have lots of fun
Tom I can't believe how you can knock your own country/province and make us look like a bunch of hillbillies. I am one who shoots at varmints, but not the way you make it sound.
Havasu Cig..I have the most beautiful frien who packs the 40 cal Glock every day..I think they are an nice piece.

[Dribble]

Originally posted by sunbunny
[oh along with Dickhead Clark and Heston there old buddy..all in all there was alot of very sad footage on there - makes one think that's for sure....Micheal Moore was great - very persistent... [/B]
I wouldn't let my dog watch a Michael Moore movie

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by Chase
Tom I can't believe how you can knock your own country/province and make us look like a bunch of hillbillies. I am one who shoots at varmints, but not the way you make it sound.
I prefer shooting down people instead of animals. :D
By the way, I too have noticed the large numbers of people who cut down Saskatchewan as being desolate with nothing here to do. Many of these people having driven through on the trans-Canada without turning off… literally. **** them. Let’s pretend there’s nothing good here. :D

[canuck1]

[ Let’s pretend there’s nothing good here. :D [/B][/QUOTE]
Why do we have to pretend?:cool:

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by canuck1
Why do we have to pretend?:cool:
No need, Canucky.
Why don't you go ahead and share the stories from your tours of Saskatchewan. I'm sure those stories will start and end with dashed white lines passing by the driver's door of your car. :D

[canuck1]

Unfortunately Tom I have spent many months behind the straw curtain, the only areas I haven't been is the far north. And yes they do start and end with the lines sliding on by the windows on the one and only paved road you have:cool:

[canuck1]

And BTW I live in a province that is made up of mostly imports, there are only 3 of us on my hockey team that are not from Sask:wink:

[Tom Brown]

I shall re-double my efforts to respect your opinion, Canuck1. :cool:
From what I can tell you are in the extreme minority with regard to not liking Waskesiu, Gray Owl’s Cabin, Hanson Lake Road, the Cypress Hills region, the rolling sand dunes of the extreme north, and the other quarter million square miles of the place. Why don't you tell me the specific areas you liked the least and I'll go and check those places out. :D

[canuck1]

You forgot the moose mountains

[Chase]

There is a whole lot of beautiful country right here in Sask. What are you refferring to when You say far North??? There are beautiful lakes all throughout the province from about 1 hour North of Regina....Wildlife everywhere...incredible scenery in the south..Badlands, nice huge hills, and more incredible scenery about an hour north of the trans Canada, and going until you can't drive anymore...and it is not because we only have one raod......
You know as I am writing this I am thinking Tom you are right. Why should I brag up the province when everyone thinks it suck anyway.
So for anybody wants to see some gorgeous country..come with me for a weekend.

[betty boop]

who gives a shit what anyone else thinks or says - as long as your happy where you are!!!!;)

[Tom Brown]

Chase, I like it here but then I haven't seen the entire province like Canuck1 has. I wonder what he didn't like about Katepwa lake? Maybe he needs to educate us as to properly determine what's good and what's not. Or maybe he's got his head up his ass. :D
http://www.carlsonspeed.com/~tombrown/QuickLink/sunset1.jpg
http://www.carlsonspeed.com/~tombrown/QuickLink/katepwa030526.jpg

[betty boop]

i don't know - but i could be happy there i'm sure!! :D

[canuck1]

Chase
I haven't been further north than PA. I have been to almost every area south of there. I do love the prairies in the spring

[canuck1]

Tommy
never said I didn't like it. Its just plain fun to make fun of it.

[Tom Brown]

You know, Canuck1... I work for the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool and have been to the vast most of the elevators in the province, prior to the down sizing of the elevator network. Still, I discover beautiful new places all the time. How many decades did you live here again?
For this reason, I think you have your head about three feet up your ass. :D
Hey, I'm not against generalizing about a place with over a quarter million square miles with a trite sound bite. It makes life easier. :D
Let's see... there are about 200000 minutes spent awake each year, more for a benny gobbler like yourself, so I would say you should be able to see the entire province in a couple of years. :D

[canuck1]

But where are the mountains?

[Tom Brown]

You haven't seen our mountains? Are you sure you've been to Saskatchewan? :confused:

[hoolign]

Tom...
I think your making mountains out of mole hills..
I kill me....:rolleyes:

[canuck1]

Cypress hills ain't mountains tommy. 3" ain't a foot

[Tom Brown]

No, I mean the... other mountains. http://www.havasubarney.com/forums/html/emoticons/unsure.gif

[Chase]

Originally posted by canuck1
Chase
I haven't been further north than PA. I have been to almost every area south of there. I do love the prairies in the spring
OK then...How then can you say anything about the province, without seeing the most beautiful 2/3 rds of the province???

[sorry dog]

Come'on guys. SK is awesome.
What other place do you know of that has their own Nitelife forum...
http://www.reginabarstars.com/
I have a feeling Tom voted for "The Pump" for his favorite bar.

[Chase]

Can't forget
http://www.citynights.net/... Ok this site sucks but it is the entertainment site for Saskatoon and Regina. Don't think this is the only thing to do around here either...

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by sorry dog
I have a feeling Tom voted for "The Pump" for his favorite bar.
You have no idea, Dog. :D
I don't mind the bare plywood floors, they add ambiance. It's the bare plywood bar that I find a little blue collar for my sophisticated taste and style. I shouldn’t be too quick to judge it though, I hear they’ve dolled it up since I was in there last which was many years ago… despite it being only a few blocks from my house.