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FlatRat
02-17-2004, 03:43 AM
Looking for a steel rudder for ski hydro.I need it to be 16-17" below the hull with water pick-up.:eek: :p :D

mfrey
02-18-2004, 12:47 PM
FlatRat, is that the same length as the original rudder? I have a shovel nose Sanger ski hydro that rides/handles well at speed (low 10's at 106)...it's 11 1/4" below the bottom of the boat. Do you plan to go faster? I was told that a rudder with excessive length will act as a drag and pull the nose down at speed. I don't profess to know all, just what mine does.

Sangster
02-18-2004, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by mfrey
FlatRat, is that the same length as the original rudder? I have a shovel nose Sanger ski hydro that rides/handles well at speed (low 10's at 106)...it's 11 1/4" below the bottom of the boat. Do you plan to go faster? I was told that a rudder with excessive length will act as a drag and pull the nose down at speed. I don't profess to know all, just what mine does.
Dat's right...our's is 13 1/2 " down from the transom... You will need to have someone custom build one....$$$$$

SERIOUS ISSUES
02-18-2004, 02:59 PM
You will need to have someone custom build one....$$$$$ [/B][/QUOTE]
CUSTOM: you pay extra for that:D.
mfrey and sangster. are you blowing the tail on your hydros???
I had outboard stearing on my old hydro and the rudder was aprox. 16" from the bottom of the boat. that was only 11" of rudder in the water at speed.
I know it is totaly differant boat (inboard or outboard) but I would think the theory is the same.
12" long rudder is only 7" in the water if you blow the tail. that would make it a little loose I would think.

Sangster
02-18-2004, 03:15 PM
I think so......
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/118x8-med.jpg

FlatRat
02-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Mfrey,
what is the location of your engine from transom?Mine is 43" and gearbox is 92",was told with that set-up I would need longer rudder since the tail will blow.Hey,I'm just a hillbilly trying to learn stuff and go fast.The rudder that come on boat is 13".Thanks for all input:D :confused: :D

Sangster
02-18-2004, 04:13 PM
FlatRat...How much HP are you puttin' in it.....

mouzer
02-18-2004, 04:17 PM
OH DEAR!!!!!!!!

FlatRat
02-18-2004, 04:28 PM
mild at this point,about 600hp.
Mouzer,SAR.:p

mfrey
02-18-2004, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by FlatRat
Mfrey,
what is the location of your engine from transom?Mine is 43" and gearbox is 92",was told with that set-up I would need longer rudder since the tail will blow.Hey,I'm just a hillbilly trying to learn stuff and go fast.The rudder that come on boat is 13".Thanks for all input:D :confused: :D
FlatRat, the front (rear) engine plate is 40" and the v-drive plate is 90" from the transom. The motor dyno'd at 610, and I run 18% and an 11 1/8x16 3 blade Radiece prop. The tail is out about 2 inches at 1/2 track, and stays there. I've made numerous passes at CFW, Chowchilla, and Bakersfield without any problems (knock on wood). This is definitely not the gospel, but it has worked well for me thus far. To ET better, I've thought about someday adding plates (wings) on the sides of the strut barrel to get her rear end up sooner. If I do that, I would likely go to a longer rudder.

SUI-CY-COLE
02-18-2004, 09:01 PM
that pic looks good sangster!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hey when i get a hydro can you do a little photoshop on my pass also?????????

Sangster
02-18-2004, 09:14 PM
That was last year at CFW... with the 427ci. deal... We set a 482ci. in it for this year... And a little squirt of NoS to help it out..;) ;) ;)

SUI-CY-COLE
02-18-2004, 09:20 PM
looks good!......keep it running for fathers days id like to see it run and put a tail up that big.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FLYTE RISK
02-18-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by SUI-CY-COLE
looks good!......keep it running for fathers days id like to see it run and put a tail up that big.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Me two!:p

FLYTE RISK
02-18-2004, 09:46 PM
Actually I think I took that pic. lookin back!! HA HA LOL:eek: Got ya:p :D :D

Sangster
02-18-2004, 09:46 PM
Ohh Tay..... :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Sangster
02-18-2004, 09:59 PM
Hey Dave.....I think this is the photo you took...
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/118x7-med.jpg :D :D :D :D :D :D
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/118x9-med.jpg