standard shorty VS Twist style

[victorfb]

has anyone ran both style headers on a jetboat /BBC? i have a couple sets of the standard style ( 1 set new 1 set used with some rust starting.) but really like the look of the twisties. in the advertisment it looks as if the twisties cut back further from the rear seating and also hang past the transum further, and may even be closer together. do they get in the way of a ski rope or anything? any comments on this? id really like to see a picture comparison if anyones got one.
thanks..

[Big Proppa]

I would agree with you on that, I think they do lean back and give you more room and the look is a plus.
With all that said - I have a set of brand new still in the rapper bassett twisty style headers with new water jackets $650 new
Will let go for $500 obo

[HBjet]

They are setback, and they are closer together...
On the dyno, I noticed that the twisties made more torgue then the shorter style headers.
HBjet

[MudPumper]

The twisties look way better and just like any OT header you have to watch the ski rope. I have some really good pics of my motor with a twistie on one side and the standard style but the file is too large for me to post, if somebody can shrink them down I'll put them up. I have pics from front, top, back and side.

[victorfb]

now that would be perfect.

[Rexone]

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[MudPumper]

I just re read the post and you wanted to compare a shorty to a twisty. My pics are of an Original compared to a Twisty. Maybe they will help though.
Rear view, new twisty left and original right.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_1-med.jpg
Side view, it's hard to see the Original on the far side, but it sits a little bit higher than the twisty.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_2-med.jpg
Front view, here you can really compare the height and how close to the block they are.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Basset_3-med.jpg
Top view, you cant see the length but they both end over the transom in about the same place.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_4-med.jpg
Rear view of new Twisties installed on both sides.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_5-med.jpg
Front view of new Twisties.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_6-med.jpg
Side angle view. Look at the shine.:D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_7-med.jpg
Top angle view of both Twisties. You can almost eat off that motor.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033Bassett_8-med.jpg

[TopCat]

my opinion go with the twisties though you wont have as much room for ski rope movement they just look better i wonder if they're harder to get to plugs

[Big Proppa]

These are the ones for sale
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/16Heat_seekers_headers1-med.JPG
Brand spankin new - I was going to run them but just can't give up the sound a blower motor makes huffin through a set of dry zoomies

[Jake W]

I was once too in love with the twisties but sold them for a new set of SHORT STRIGHTS.To me the short strights have more of a race look to them and that is what I was after.I wanted them even shorter than they come but after talking to Paul Bassett decided to run the regular lenght short strights.
Do not get the short strights confused with the long collector bell end type header that Mudpumper posted.
Wrightnows CP looks nice with the short strights ,seeing that pic and the tunnel CPs in Drag Boat Review with them was the deciding factor for me.
Proceed with the twistie love
Jake:D

[Heatseeker]

Having run both twisties and regular style Bassett's, I prefer the twisties. One big plus for me is the twisties allow me to plant a foot on the floor beside the motor(without getting my skin charred), which makes it easier when tying up to houseboats(which I do all summer long). They also keep some heat off the passengers. And I think they look nicer too.
With the twisties, the plugs are little harder to get at, and you need to run angle boot plug wires. Also, a couple of the header bolts are a bitch to get tight and pulling a set of tall valve covers w/breathers can be tricky. But all that is worth the trouble to me :D .
Big Proppa, I thought you already sold those!

[Mohavekid]

Victor, I personally like the shorty's over the twists on a Rogers. I think they have a "racier" look.
Heres a pic of my old Challenger with some Rewarder shorty's. The front pipe seems to lean back more than the Bassett's.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1177Challenger3.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1177Challenger4-med.jpg
Either way, shiney new chrome headers of any type are cool.:D

[Big Proppa]

Yes I think I did -

[Big Proppa]

Yep definatley sold - thanks Heat

[shaun]

I like the short straights as well. The twisties look nice from the side and when looking at the boat from in front but from behind they remind me of wings...
They are growing on me more and more though, i'm in need of some new headers i guess what i'm saying is if i ran accross a set of twisties and the price was right, i would use them.
Not the best pic but here are pics of my straights.
http://www.reitanfamily.com/albums/album01/IM000698.sized.jpg

[TopCat]

Originally posted by Big Proppa
These are the ones for sale
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/16Heat_seekers_headers1-med.JPG
Brand spankin new - I was going to run them but just can't give up the sound a blower motor makes huffin through a set of dry zoomies QUIT BRAGGING

[Squirtcha?]

I've run em both too. The only downside I could see to the twisties is that they seem to be more prone to rusting due to less space between the pipes (especially where they twist around one another).

[Big Proppa]

come on topcat that's all I got

[Cs19]

I think twistys look weird, they look kinda long and old school. I really like the look of the short straight bassetts.
I also hear those twistys might be worth a few horsepower,which really isnt worth much considering your going to have to look at them all the time.
My favorite set of pipes was an old set of twist bassetts that we cut down, they just looked bitchen, and they looked different than all the other sets weve had, too bad they rusted out. My buddy that lives out on the river actually fixed em up and runs them now on his CP.

[1 fast okie]

i agree with jake w iwent with short straights on my new boat i think they look more like a drag boat and also there is a plus sence there higher if your running a little fat you dont get as much black gassey water droplets on top of thee transom

[MudPumper]

Originally posted by Shaun
I like the short straights as well. The twisties look nice from the side and when looking at the boat from in front but from behind they remind me of wings...
They are growing on me more and more though, i'm in need of some new headers i guess what i'm saying is if i ran accross a set of twisties and the price was right, i would use them.
Not the best pic but here are pics of my straights.
http://www.reitanfamily.com/albums/album01/IM000698.sized.jpg
Shaun, what year is your Southwind??

[MudPumper]

Originally posted by Squirtcha?
I've run em both too. The only downside I could see to the twisties is that they seem to be more prone to rusting due to less space between the pipes (especially where they twist around one another).
This can be a problem with any pipe, the chrome plating can't get in between the pipes. Proper care is necessary. After use, spray in between the pipes with WD 40 including the weep holes and inside the collector to prevent rusting. Before next use wipe down the pipes to remove any excess residue from the WD40 to prevent any discoloration. I just Windex them with a soft towel. Piece of cake.

[shaun]

Originally posted by MudPumper
Shaun, what year is your Southwind??
It's a '77 AnthonyBT

[MudPumper]

Oh, looks just like a 76Southwind I used to have.

[Jordy]

Here is the old and the new:
Before:
http://www.riverratlife.com/uploads/jordy/boat1.jpg
Afta:
http://www.riverratlife.com/uploads/jordy/boat2.jpg
No more ot's for me... ;) :D :cool:

[MudPumper]

Hey JP, what brand header did you go with, Ive been contemplating switching over myself.

[Jordy]

They're all bassetts... :D

[Vern S]

I am interested in a set to fit a BBC.
Thanks
Vern

[Performance 19]

I agree with Jake W. Twisties are nice, look great. You also need to think about other things too. We improved rpm by 200 changing back to shorties (not long bells) Call Paul on the tech line 714-630-7999 or visit Bassettracing.com. He will give you any and all advice you need. Also, this is a guy with real integrity and honesty. Because of this I would never buy any other header, like Re*****rs, they are just a copy of the original and best!! Good luck!

[blackadder]

If you have an old set of the more upright Bassetts around here is something you might try if there are not any "noise" laws where you boat. Cut off the collector, leaving the 4 pipes, and the add a 9" extension to each one. I got 3 MPH [by radar] on my top end - but keep some earplugs handy, over 4000 rpm it really gets annoying. But just consider what the jetskis are having to put up with when you pass them. They aren't something I run all the time, but about 3 or 4 times a year, I'll throw them on - for grins.

[Jordy]

Originally posted by Vern S
I am interested in a set to fit a BBC.
Thanks
Vern
I've got a set of twisties I don't need anymore.

[TRG]

hey vic, i figured these would give you a better idea of what your boat would look like with both!
1st= non-twist
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/45rearview-med.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/45toddsboatdriverside-med.JPG
with the twist style
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1boat19.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1boat110.JPG
hope this helps!

[Mohavekid]

That's a beautiful boat!!:D

[Heatseeker]

Todd, that helps me! Now I know what the twisties will look like on my Roger's. I was kinda wondering, since the engine sits a little deeper in the Roger's compared to my old Caribbean. Cool!

[cyclone]

Vic- on a Rogers the twisties sit real close to the top of the transom. You wont want to run them dry because the extreme heat that is present which really heats up the paint or gel.
The straight pipes sit about an inch higher off the transom and are wider so that its easier to remove a tall set of valve covers.
I like the looks of both, but i agree with the other guys, the short straight pipes do look more racy.
And HB is correct, the engine does seem to produce more torque with the long collector pipes. Its a negligable amounth though.
:)

[victorfb]

wow. thanks EVERYONE for the great advice and pics. after all said and done, i do like the look of both and on that alone would be a hard decision. but since i allready have a brand new set of regular shorty's and still need to invest in other parts ill be running what i have (with baffles). the fact that the twisties sit a bit lower also helps make the decision final. and with all this scare of noise law enforcment, i dont want to invest more money on something i may have to change anyhow. do the thru transum headers put out a lower decible level? the boat has allready been cut for thru transum, and by the looks of it it the holes may actually be below the water line a bit. i would think if they test at high idle and not moving, that the water would muffle the noise some. anyone have any thoughts on that?
thanks again folks. great info and no argueing. yippppeee!:D

[Vern S]

Originally posted by jordanpaulk
I've got a set of twisties I don't need anymore.
Can you email me?
vsearcy@genext.net
Thanks
Vern