Bad Man?

[cyclone]

so i'm sitting at lunch with my g/f's family down in San Diego yesterday. I'm eating out on the patio, the sun is shining for the first time in weeks, there's not a cloud in the sky and i'm thinking to myself, "damn it sure would be nice to be at river today."
Someone remarks that its 85 degrees outside.
Randy leaves me a voicemail during lunch saying how the weather is nice enough to go to the river.
I see someone towing a jet boat down the street.
And as nice as it was having lunch with my girl and her family, all i could think about was running home to work on my boat in the driveway.
Does that make me a bad guy???
oh yeah, JETBOAT.
could someone pleast post pics of their boat to get me through work today?
:D :D

[Jetdriver]

Here Mike! This is a pic from yesterday at Castaic with the new ride! http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/449Shawn_s_boat-med.jpg

[skeepwerkzaz]

as yours, but not so shabby! And no, you are not a bad guy, just one, much like the rest of us with one of the most expensive addictions of all. Should we maybe start a twelve step program for being a river rat? Something possibly that we should all talk about, over a beer, say at Fox's.:D http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/4851st_1-med.bmp http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/485foxs-med.jpg

[cyclone]

Originally posted by Jetdriver
Here Mike! This is a pic from yesterday at Castaic with the new ride! http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/449Shawn_s_boat-med.jpg
hey that's a great looking boat. what kind is it? thanks for posting!

[Jungle Boy]

You are definatly not a bad man. A desparate man, maybe, bad, no.
I was down and the Rio Putamayo today and was thinking the same thing. There was even some little dugouts that are owned by the natives parked on the bank, that I was thinking about ripping off. But one does not take another mans boat, no matter how humble it is.
Call in sick and go boating man.

[cyclone]

Originally posted by skeepwerkzaz
as yours, but not so shabby! And no, you are not a bad guy, just one, much like the rest of us with one of the most expensive addictions of all. Should we maybe start a twelve step program for being a river rat? Something possibly that we should all talk about, over a beer, say at Fox's.:D http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/4851st_1-med.bmp http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/485foxs-med.jpg
i've always like the colors on your boat. ok this is helping me avoid responsibility. keep em coming! I'm definately ready for a beer or three at the river.

[Jetdriver]

Originally posted by cyclone
hey that's a great looking boat. what kind is it? thanks for posting!
Just picked it up about a month ago in San Diego, It was made in 90 by a company called Proboat in Riverside. Its a 21 with a 454, set back berk with an aggressor bowl and "A" impeller. Shoed and full ride plate, Hydro place diverter. Nice and comfy ride in the ruff stuff! Thanks for the compliments.

[cyclone]

i've heard good things about proboat. how's she run?

[Squirtcha?]

Ya stayed didn'tcha? See there, you aint soooo bad.
80 mph hair dryer.
http://jetboat.homestead.com/DSC01054c.jpg

[cyclone]

very nice. i'm surprise you havent run that thing at the drags yet.

[superdave013]

here's a pic for ya Mike.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48Dsc01415.jpg

[BIGAMIST]

Sunday Castaic
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/792004_0307Image0042-med.JPG

[cyclone]

ok now that really does help. thanks SD! i didn't know you took pictures. Hopefully i can finish up the plumbing tonight. :)

[cyclone]

Originally posted by BIGAMIST
Sunday Castaic
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/792004_0307Image0042-med.JPG
hey did you get the cap fixed?:)

[BIGAMIST]

Originally posted by cyclone
hey did you get the cap fixed?:)
Yep......yesterday was my first trip out since 4th of July last year with you guys:D

[cyclone]

that's great man! glad to hear you'll be back out there with us again.

[Jetdriver]

Originally posted by cyclone
i've heard good things about proboat. how's she run? Runs bitchin! 62 on the GPS with full tanks and 2 adults. Im now thinking about a droop. We shall see. The ride is great though! Ill get more pics up in just a few.

[victorfb]

oh great. now Im really jonesin for the river. great pics. :D
damn mike. is that boat gunna float with all that mill in there? :p looks awsome man. great job. cant wait to see it run.
ok, is that Fox's, or roadrunner? i heard they sold it but thought they were keeping the name. doesnt matter. they still have beer.:D

[Danhercules]

Here ya go!!
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/4763dansboat2-med.jpg
I wish I could do that today but my boat looks like this now..
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/4763IM001047-med.JPG

[victorfb]

oh and mike. if your still thinking your a "bad man", my girlfriend told me that your girlfriend called her saying that she was at lunch with her boyfriend yesterday, and the weather was so nice, and all she could think about was shopping. she said her boyfriend was so nice and even though he is trying to get his boat back together and REALLY wants to get to the river, he stayed and had lunch with her and her family. even though she admitted to rather be shopping and cruisin the coast looking for surfers changing on the side of thier cars.:p
so id say your still a good guy.

[superdave013]

It was around 11:45 PM on a Friday night when this pic was snapped.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48Dsc01416.jpg

[hack job]

mike your not a bad guy. we all were thinking the same thing when we were sitting around this weekend. lol:rolleyes: well i cant wait to get mine out . but it looks like your will be out this weekend. ;) that is some " sweet " plumbing.:D

[fourspeednup]

Bad man...maybe;)
You ain't missin much, are you really looking forwrd to this:rolleyes:
:D :D :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3225havasu_channel_mem_day-med.jpg

[cyclone]

Originally posted by superdave013
It was around 11:45 PM on a Friday night when this pic was snapped.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48Dsc01416.jpg
sorry for keeping you up so late. i know that kitchen was a callin' ya!:D

[HotHallet]

Mike- Your not a bad guy. I am jonesing too as I think i have gone out to my garage about 30 times in the last week just to stare at my engine. Jack should be taking the boat back at the end of this week and then after he is done I can get the motor back in, stop off at Revo's for some quick carpet back by motor, and then start plumbing the fuel and water. Then it's on!

[Hotcrusader76]

Is there any reason why you didn't option for a bypass set-up?

[MudPumper]

Mike, your motor is looking great. I can't wait to see it out on the river. Here are a few pics for you.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033BV_Roost-med.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/2/3033DCP_0371-med.JPG
Don't feel bad, I pulled my motor and pump yesterday. Dragged the boat down to Jack's on Saturday to see what kind of majic he could do for me. Boat won't be back together for about 3wks or so and today it's 85 here, WTF! And if you think you're a bad guy, I was having sex with my girl last night and I was thinking about my boat, if she only knew why I was so excited!!ROTFLMAO

[cyclone]

Originally posted by MudPumper
Mike, your motor is looking great. I can't wait to see it out on the river. Here are a few pics for you.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033BV_Roost-med.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/2/3033DCP_0371-med.JPG
Don't feel bad, I pulled my motor and pump yesterday. Dragged the boat down to Jack's on Saturday to see what kind of majic he could do for me. Boat won't be back together for about 3wks or so and today it's 85 here, WTF! And if you think you're a bad guy, I was having sex with my girl last night and I was thinking about my boat, if she only knew why I was so excited!!ROTFLMAO
oh now that's freakin' funny. i dont feel so bad now. :D
what kind of boat ya got and what's jack doin' to your pump?

[Taylorman]

Originally posted by RiverDave
Damn!! That fuel system is looking tighter then a virgin on prom night.. Look at dat shiat. :D
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/48Dsc01416.jpg
RD <---- has got to get a boat sometime in the near future..
I got one word for you, Zoomies.

[Jetdriver]

Here's a pic of the rear while we were working on it! http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/79DSCF0021-med.JPG

[superdave013]

Originally posted by MudPumper
Mike, your motor is looking great. I can't wait to see it out on the river. Here are a few pics for you.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3033BV_Roost-med.JPG
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/2/3033DCP_0371-med.JPG
Don't feel bad, I pulled my motor and pump yesterday. Dragged the boat down to Jack's on Saturday to see what kind of majic he could do for me. Boat won't be back together for about 3wks or so and today it's 85 here, WTF! And if you think you're a bad guy, I was having sex with my girl last night and I was thinking about my boat, if she only knew why I was so excited!!ROTFLMAO
haha, In that top pic it looks like you were breaking that 45MPH speed limit at BV there buddy. :)

[MudPumper]

LOL!!!! Don't tell anybody, but the ranger who patrols the shore in the car couldn't catch me.

[Heatseeker]

Mike, dont feel too bad. At least you've got the engine in your boat.
Here's what mine looks like right now :mad: :
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3663carpet1-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/3663carpet-med.jpg
I'm still plugging away to get it done!
Oh yeah: Carpeting boats totally sucks!!!

[MudPumper]

Originally posted by cyclone
oh now that's freakin' funny. i dont feel so bad now. :D
what kind of boat ya got and what's jack doin' to your pump?
It's a Southwind with an old style Dominator. Jack says the bowl is pretty restrictive so he is going to work it a bit as well as the impeller. He is also going to add a loader to fix a high speed cavitation problem that I am having. I was going to have Jeff take the hook out and have Jack reset the intake and add a shoe and rideplate but Jack said he wouldn't be able to get to it until the end of May. So I am going to wait until after the season to do that.

[TRG]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/662marc_s_boat_with_motor_006-med.jpg
here's one of the "Dutch Treat":D

[HotHallet]

With that boat looking that good homeboy really needs some wheels and tires on the trailer Todd!

[TRG]

Rome was'tn built in a day buddy!:D

[Jake W]

Cool thread
I think about boats all day every day that is what gets me through work and makes me work over time($ for the boat)
Jake:D

[disco_charger]

Originally posted by HotHallet
With that boat looking that good homeboy really needs some wheels and tires on the trailer Todd!
I don't think that the Ranger wheels look bad....:rolleyes:

[cyclone]

i'd rather have them ranger wheels than the rusto-chrome mods i got now. That boat looks killer!

[HBjet]

Originally posted by cyclone
i'd rather have them ranger wheels than the rusto-chrome mods i got now. That boat looks killer!
Why don't you work on getting a trailer jack with a wheel before you go replacing the Rusto-Chrome 13" Special's!
HBjet

[cyclone]

hey them's 14's but i keep em real clean! :D

[HotHallet]

Randy- You are the last guy that should be tellin' other people what to do to their trailers j/k!

[bp]

Originally posted by MudPumper
It's a Southwind with an old style Dominator. Jack says the bowl is pretty restrictive so he is going to work it a bit as well as the impeller. He is also going to add a loader to fix a high speed cavitation problem that I am having. I was going to have Jeff take the hook out and have Jack reset the intake and add a shoe and rideplate but Jack said he wouldn't be able to get to it until the end of May. So I am going to wait until after the season to do that.
i think i saw you guy's there. nothin' like a good old southwind:D

[Raskal]

this was takin on sunday .http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/158P3070634-med.JPG

[Froggystyle]

Mike, That isn't a Holley regulator is it?
I am not a man to tell people how to plumb fuel, but the biggest problem I had with my blower motor was enough fuel. Two Holley blue pumps wouldn't do it. I ended up going with a BG 400 and a 4 port regulator. I think that is the only way to fly bro. I would use a different brand though, like a Magnaflow because my BG kindof blew, but you are going to need more fuel if that is a Holley.
http://www.highperformancecars.com/froggystyle/daytona_collage_small.jpg
Here is a couple of bad pics of my setup. The closeup is unfortunately of the dual 2P regulators and not the 4p that made it onto the boat in the rest of the pictures. In any case, you will note that on the 2P's, there are -8 lines going in and four -6 coming out, one to each bowl. On the 4 P, that is a -10 going in from the pump, there is a -8 bypass line from the pump to the tanks, and four -6 going to the carbs. One thing this thing was not was underfueled. When it was though, it would get a lean backfire at full throttle with two Holley blue pumps running to it, one to each of those 2P regulators. That is why that motor is out in fact. Smoked a piston at full throttle running pump lean, not jet lean. With no jet change, new pistons and the much larger fuel system, we ran really, really hard with it. Perfect mixture.
Just a thought..

[Hotcrusader76]

Mike...
Is this fuel system set-up the same you tested with on the Dyno?
I noticed you've divorced the Holley black for the monster Dominator pump in the background (noted inside the image).
If you're going to run that type of regulator at least plan on running one to each carburetor by spliting both lines to each fuel bowl. Those regulators are junk and are the most restrictive I've seen. The only time I've ever recommended this reg. is when the roundy round guys want something budget for 600HP SBC.
Seariously look into a 4-port bypass style and smooth out some of those bends.
What sort of input have you been getting about this system that' been erected so far?
~Ty

[Hotcrusader76]

Very clean set-up. You could do this with the Holley regulators as well for a budget approach but there is nothing budget about 1000HP
http://www.highperformancecars.com/froggystyle/daytona_collage_small.jpg

[Hotcrusader76]

BTW Mike....you're not a bad man .....just a ill-logically prioritized one:D

[MAXIMUS]

Originally posted by Hotcrusader76
Mike...
Is this fuel system set-up the same you tested with on the Dyno?
I noticed you've divorced the Holley black for the monster Dominator pump in the background (noted inside the image).
If you're going to run that type of regulator at least plan on running one to each carburetor by spliting both lines to each fuel bowl. Those regulators are junk and are the most restrictive I've seen. The only time I've ever recommended this reg. is when the roundy round guys want something budget for 600HP SBC.
Seariously look into a 4-port bypass style and smooth out some of those bends.
What sort of input have you been getting about this system that' been erected so far?
~Ty
This is the best advise I have heard yet! There is nothing that flows better than a bypass regulator! Get rid of any restrictive fittings (90's 45's etc) & use all straights with offset hose ends. That fuel system you are using right now Mike will cause problems!:frown: A very cost effective & good bypass regulator is offered by Moroso. I think they are about 30 bucks. Easy to install & use as well. I don't care how expensive or trick a 4 port regulator is, the design in its self is restrictive!

[superdave013]

Well I'm not going to comment on the rest of the fuel system but one thing I know for sure.
All of the hose ends are straights or the full flow bent tube type. He did not use any forged 45's or 90's. So I'm thinkin that the hose and ends won't be the restriction.

[cyclone]

The hard lines and fittings that are plumbed to the carbs were used on the dyno with a single -8 hose feeding them. Had no problems with fuel delivery at that time. At the recommendation of Holley, i swapped the Black fuel pump for the dominator. I gave them the specs on the motor and asked them about going to a 4-port regulator and they said that this 2-port is a new design and will flow more than i'll ever need. The rest of the system is set up as follows:
-8 hose from each tank into separate inlet ports in the fuel filter.
-8 hoses into the fuel pump and a single -8 up to the pressure regulator.
What's the reason for a bypass system?
thanks for all your input! :)

[HavasuDreamin']

Wes..........that is one clean Daytona. One of the nicest I have ever seen......( . )..( . ).....

[Hotcrusader76]

A bypass system allows the fuel to be supplied when the motor demands it with a poppet style bypass regulator. If you compared the two types of systems you would see significant flow differences. Some other benefits are cooler fuel is passed throughout the system and your pressure loss within the carburetor's float system maintains a consistent reading.
I would bet your current doesn't perform the same in the boat verses your previous dyno run. Sure Holley probably recommended some great components for your system but I believe they neglected to give your entire application a thorough evaluation.
One major change that you will need to incorporate is a 08 return to the tank or source before the pump along with some quality (meaning tested and tried) fuel regulators. That Dominator pump will be just fine.
~Ty

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by cyclone
The hard lines and fittings that are plumbed to the carbs were used on the dyno with a single -8 hose feeding them. Had no problems with fuel delivery at that time. At the recommendation of Holley, i swapped the Black fuel pump for the dominator. I gave them the specs on the motor and asked them about going to a 4-port regulator and they said that this 2-port is a new design and will flow more than i'll ever need. The rest of the system is set up as follows:
-8 hose from each tank into separate inlet ports in the fuel filter.
-8 hoses into the fuel pump and a single -8 up to the pressure regulator.
What's the reason for a bypass system?
thanks for all your input! :)
And you said you didn't dyno, liar liar pants of fire.

[HBjet]

Originally posted by Blown 472
And you said you didn't dyno, liar liar pants of fire.
since when have you believed anything Cyclone has posted? Remember, he works for a magazine, but you know how they opperate!
HBjet

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by HBjet
since when have you believed anything Cyclone has posted? Remember, he works for a magazine, but you know how they opperate!
HBjet
Well it would have been interesting to read, you know it gets cold and boring here and I need to read something to keep me awake.

[HBjet]

Originally posted by Blown 472
Well it would have been interesting to read, you know it gets cold and boring here and I need to read something to keep me awake.
I wasn't referring to that motor and a magazine, I was referring to you telling Cyclone how a magazine company opperates, even though he works at one, and you do not.
BTW, why would Cyclone post the numbers, no one believes them anyways.
HBjet

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by HBjet
I wasn't referring to that motor and a magazine, I was referring to you telling Cyclone how a magazine company opperates, even though he works at you, and you do not.
BTW, why would Cyclone post the numbers, no one believes them anyways.
HBjet
Your right, a mag doing an article on a west coast builder goes over really big on the east coast or the midwest and I am sure what with paying all the staff and all the mag keeps it's fingers crossed that folks outside of the west coast will run to buy it:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Makes for good reading and some banter, like I said gets pretty boring looking at the snow.
Oh, and btw, my dad can kick your dad's ass.:p :p

[cyclone]

There's no value in posting dyno numbers for the benefit of someone like blown472. Those people on the board that had a genuine interest in my project, not an interest in starting BS drama out of pure boredom, already know how the motor runs. I'm not here to sell anything, hence I'm not going to post numbers. :)

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by cyclone
There's no value in posting dyno numbers for the benefit of someone like blown472. Those people on the board that had a genuine interest in my project, not an interest in starting BS drama out of pure boredom, already know how the motor runs. I'm not here to sell anything, hence I'm not going to post numbers. :)
I am not going to start any bs, got a different board to do that on now. Lets see em.

[cyclone]

sorry but its not going to happen.

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by cyclone
sorry but its not going to happen.
aww shucks

[MAXIMUS]

Originally posted by superdave013
Well I'm not going to comment on the rest of the fuel system but one thing I know for sure.
All of the hose ends are straights or the full flow bent tube type. He did not use any forged 45's or 90's. So I'm thinkin that the hose and ends won't be the restriction.
Dave I'm sure that if you helped him it was done right! However that fuel psi regulator is not a sound investment!

[HBjet]

Originally posted by MAXIMUS
Dave I'm sure that if you helped him it was done right! However that fuel psi regulator is not a sound investment!
Please don't take this the wrong way, but then why would Holley recommend it then?
HBjet

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by HBjet
Please don't take this the wrong way, but then why would Holley recommend it then?
HBjet
Didn't he buy the blower from them?? as far as I know they dont make a bypass set up. All about selling parts yo.

[MAXIMUS]

Originally posted by HBjet
Please don't take this the wrong way, but then why would Holley recommend it then?
HBjet
HB if I have to answer that then I don't need to say any more... How many things in our world are for sale to the consumer that are inferior or for lack of a better term a "piece of shit". It's all about the benjamins... I am only offering advice & Not willing to argue about it... No offense

[cyclone]

Originally posted by MAXIMUS
HB if I have to answer that then I don't need to say any more... How many things in our world are for sale to the consumer that are inferior or for lack of a better term a "piece of shit". It's all about the benjamins... I am only offering advice & Not willing to argue about it... No offense
Will someone just give me a straight answer on why the regulator wont work on my setup? I'd like to run the boat this weekend but i'd also like to avert any potential problems. So if my setup is wrong, please tell me exactly why and what the solution is (include part numbers please. :) )
thanks in advance.

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by cyclone
Will someone just give me a straight answer on why the regulator wont work on my setup? I'd like to run the boat this weekend but i'd also like to avert any potential problems. So if my setup is wrong, please tell me exactly why and what the solution is (include part numbers please. :) )
thanks in advance.
Did you use that set up on the dyno? or did you use their fuel system?? that reg has a small ball that the fuel has to go thru and you are feeding both carbs off it. What could happen? lean out at higher rpm do to lack of flow. Been there done that, with a smaller motor and less rpm.

[cyclone]

Originally posted by Blown 472
Did you use that set up on the dyno? or did you use their fuel system?? that reg has a small ball that the fuel has to go thru and you are feeding both carbs off it. What could happen? lean out at higher rpm do to lack of flow. Been there done that, with a smaller motor and less rpm.
now wasn't that easy. thank you for the no bs reply.

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by cyclone
now wasn't that easy. thank you for the no bs reply.
Anytime.

[MAXIMUS]

Blown(no B.S. reply kinda guy)472...:devil:

[HARDIN18]

Back to the original question.
Yes! You are a very bad man. You should have your girlfriend spank you.

[roostwear]

Mike, your priorities are skewed. Girlfriends come and go. You have given her a false sense of security by staying there instead of heading for the river. Honesty is the foundation of any relationship, so NEXT time, be honest with her..... leave and go to the river. She'll appreciate your commitment to the relationship. :D

[cyclone]

Originally posted by HARDIN18
Back to the original question.
Yes! You are a very bad man. You should have your girlfriend spank you.
:D

[flat broke]

Mike,
If it's not too late, I have a suggestion for your fuel system. Yeah, the bypass system is better, but if your tanks don't have the return bungs in em, that might be a problem for a quick changeover. Have SuperDave set you up with a -8 coupler witha 1/8NPT pipe tap in it. Grab a electric fuel pressure gauge and splice the coupler in between the SS and the hardline. That way you can monitor the actual pressure at the carb from the dash (just use a temporary install for initial testing). If you see a noticiable drop in pressure, get out of the gas (safely of course) This is a $70 way to check and see if your current system will work, rather than dump a bunch more time/$$ into a new iteration.
Hope everything goes well with your testing bud. Keep it safe.
Chris

[Hotcrusader76]

Originally posted by roostwear
Mike, your priorities are skewed. Girlfriends come and go. You have given her a false sense of security by staying there instead of heading for the river. Honesty is the foundation of any relationship, so NEXT time, be honest with her..... leave and go to the river. She'll appreciate your commitment to the relationship. :D
Don't think this was the advice he was looking for:D....
Jaime would kill me if I agreed with this post:D

[Hotcrusader76]

Now I don't have Mikes reg in my hand but from the pictures it appears that is already a bypass style reg. You can see it by the large poppit valve mounted on top. The regular designs don't have such a large valve.
Mike...
The previous post about testing would be wise as well. But just consider running another regulator exactly the same as the one you already invested in. From there it's all about routing the lines.
You can run the return back to the line before the fuel pump vice into your tanks. That'll save from having to modifiy anything. Of course folks here on the boards have experienced similar results with different routing but either way...the 08AN return is critical.
Just remember bro....you need the fuel volume....and you need it consistent.
~Ty

[superdave013]

Originally posted by Hotcrusader76
Now I don't have Mikes reg in my hand but from the pictures it appears that is already a bypass style reg. You can see it by the large poppit valve mounted on top. The regular designs don't have such a large valve.
~Ty
I don't know all the specs on it but it's much bigger then the old style poppit deals they had.

[flat broke]

Originally posted by Hotcrusader76
...You can run the return back to the line before the fuel pump vice into your tanks. That'll save from having to modifiy anything. Of course folks here on the boards have experienced similar results with different routing but either way...the 08AN return is critical.
Just remember bro....you need the fuel volume....and you need it consistent.
~Ty
Ty,
If I am understanding this correctly, you are saying that he could put a T fitting up stream of his pump and the bypassed fuel would get re-introduced into the fuel line ahead of the pump?
Does this actually work without a 1 way valve on the T? Never tried it, but since the reg bypasses more fuel than it uses wouldn't this cause some problems? I'm not doubting, just trying to see if I'm missing a component or something. If this setup works, will it work equally as well with a mechanical? I haven't nailed down the fuel setup for the new motor, and I'd like to go bypass, but didn't want to weld bungs for the return line.
Chris

[cyclone]

ok after some closer examination, i discovered an extra bung in each fuel cell that i can run return lines from. Also, on the outlet side of my fuel pump there is a 3/8-inch port marked "return" that i'll be hooking the tanks to with a t-fitting. I think that should take care of everything. thanks for the input. :)

[flat broke]

talk about a quick fix :)
Mike,
What you just described was a good way to keep the pump cool, but can still leave the fuel volume issue that everyone is talking about. A better way to plumb that deal might be as follows.
pump---->carbs--->bypass reg--->tank return lines.
This lets the full "volume" of the pump flow to the motor, but with the bypass regulator at the end of the line, doesn't allow the system to build more than the specified pressure between the pump outlet and the pressure regulator inlet. Also because the system is free flowing (fuel isn't backing up at the pump), the constant flow of fuel through the pump keeps it cool just as if you used the supplied bypass feature in the pump. Basically you would be out the cost of a bypass regulator above and beyond what you have already shelled out.
I'd still like to hear back from Ty on the T implementation before the pump for my own purposes.
Chris

[Hotcrusader76]

Just so I wasn't misunderstood, I've heard of folks running similar set-ups where they "T" into the inlet line going to the pump from the tanks. Otherwise just run the return to the tanks themselves.
If my memory serves me correctly, the tech over at product engineering recommended this to me on a pump I sold. I personally didn't want anything other than dumping it into the tanks only because I want the warm fuel to recycle back inside the tank, not back to my pump directly for reinsertion back to the carbs.
Does that answer your question? Or did I miss something.
~Ty

[flat broke]

That answers my question to some degree. My main concern with using the T ahead of the pump is there may be some sort of fuel reversion. As fuel is pulled from the tank by pump, the fuel would come accross the T and flow fuel back against the discharge side of the reg. You then would have the normal fuel flow coming out of the reg bumping into that hypothetical suction powered fuel.
if there was a 1 way on the T so that fuel could only come back into the supply line the above wouldn't be an issue, though it's probably not even an issue anyhow.
Chris