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Udafed
02-13-2002, 12:25 PM
Horsepower for horsepower, it appears the new Velocity VR1 has them all beat (by the way, I did not say "fastest v hull", I said "fastest v hull horsepower for horsepower").
Unless anyone can tell my why I shouldn't, I'm going to buy one.
Boatscience

spectras only
02-13-2002, 01:08 PM
You like it,then buy it !Nothing wrong with Velocity, the ones I saw were hauling AZZ !

JimK
02-13-2002, 01:32 PM
Hot Boat tested the 28' Howard Bullet at 104 mph. That seems pretty fast.

boaterbob
02-13-2002, 04:40 PM
Don't overlook the 28' Howard...Mikehoward from Howard boats is on this board sometimes and can probably give you some info on how this hull compares to the velocity.
Ultimately, take test rides/drives and buy what you like

playdeep
02-13-2002, 07:33 PM
I am not trying to start a war here,but didnt the F-1 Laveycraft goe back east and bring home a national and world title.Isaw both races on speedvision and the Lavey seemed to have no problems w/the Velocity.both powered by 500hp motors.just my 02.

Udafed
02-14-2002, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by JimK:
Hot Boat tested the 28' Howard Bullet at 104 mph. That seems pretty fast.
Apparently you failed to completely read my original message. I stated horsepower for horsepower.
With 500EFI's the Velocity is a faster boat.

Fountain27
02-14-2002, 08:00 AM
Udafed,
That is a very nice Velocity, However it is turning a 29 Hydro that was from a Lab shop, Also PB did not say how long it took to get to that speed, 1 mile?? 6 miles??? Also 4500lbs is very light for a 28' boat They are either using materials no one else is using or less material?? I currently spin a 26 hydro and I am slow on plane, radar 75, I hit the rev lim w/500efi, but to spin a 29??? with a stock 500efi in a 28' boat?? Allot of questions.

Udafed
02-14-2002, 08:40 AM
You do raise some interesting questions Fountain. At least someone is showing some objectivity here. The light weight might is my biggest concern. Thanks.
Originally posted by Fountain27:
Udafed,
That is a very nice Velocity, However it is turning a 29 Hydro that was from a Lab shop, Also PB did not say how long it took to get to that speed, 1 mile?? 6 miles??? Also 4500lbs is very light for a 28' boat They are either using materials no one else is using or less material?? I currently spin a 26 hydro and I am slow on plane, radar 75, I hit the rev lim w/500efi, but to spin a 29??? with a stock 500efi in a 28' boat?? Allot of questions.

Lee
02-14-2002, 09:29 AM
I have a single HP500efi in a 32' V bottom and spin a 28" Bravo I to 5150 RPM.
Also the boat jumps up on plane without using the tabs.
[This message has been edited by Lee (edited February 14, 2002).]

HavasuDreamin'
02-14-2002, 09:34 AM
I don't own a stern drive boat, but I do know that Howard had a blown 509 or similar to hit 104 MPH. My .02, for the money you are going to drop, pick two or three boats you like REALLY well and test ride/drive them. Talk to the owners of the manufactures. If you like the Velocity the best, but for some reason you find out it is 1 or 2 MPH slower, don't worry about it. In a Vee, your never going to be the fastest boat on the lake anyway. Good Luck! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/cool.gif

spectras only
02-14-2002, 09:36 AM
It's the [hull]bottom design that makes Velocity fly,not just weight reduction alone http://free.***boat.net/ubb/wink.gif

panteraman28
02-20-2002, 06:12 PM
I run a 28ft F-1 pantera. With a 500efi itran 81 on gps, and with the 700hp blower motor it runs 92mph, it weighs 4500lbs

spectras only
02-20-2002, 10:02 PM
Panteraman, I've been on a 24 Pantera long time ago [it was very narrow 7 feet I think]and it rode excellent in rough water.Another boat with similar beam was the 27 Excalibur.What's the beam of your Pantera? It's very rare to see one in the west.Are they still popular back east?

Udafed
02-21-2002, 08:16 AM
Sorry, but the only thing that has credibility with me is something reported in the press. Last year Powerboat Mag compared a bunch of F-1 boats, among them the Pantera.
I'll re-check the article, but the last I checked, in any published boat test the Velocity is still the fastest 28 horsepower for horsepower.
Udafed
Originally posted by panteraman28:
I run a 28ft F-1 pantera. With a 500efi itran 81 on gps, and with the 700hp blower motor it runs 92mph, it weighs 4500lbs

More Throttle
02-23-2002, 10:50 PM
Velocity always had one of the fastest hulls in the industry - I believe their 30-footer was the first V-bottom to hit 100mph back in the early 80's.
I'd buy one in a second if I could afford it. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/frown.gif
Good luck if you do buy one.

F 20SC
02-24-2002, 07:45 PM
I have also heard power for power and size for size, the Velocity is fastest. I looked at a Velocity 260 this weekend. They said it would do 67 with a 310 hp 7.4 MPI.

F 20SC
02-24-2002, 07:47 PM
Spectre, a 27 foot Excalibur was the best riding boat I have ever personally been on. It wasn't real fast, 54 with a 330 hp 454, but man, what a smoothe ride!

Donzi26ZX
02-25-2002, 12:36 PM
Udafed, you have email.
Here is one thread on velocity from OSO.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forum/showthread.php?s=0776ec3c78d04182bfce237c4a34e8e2&threadid=4604&highlight=velocity+280%2A+ride+water
Good luck on your purchase....

Too Old
02-26-2002, 08:19 PM
Udafed....Jo Nunez' 28 foot F-1 Pantera would indeed break the 80 mph mark.
As for believing only what is reported.....hell I don't believe anything I read and only half of what I see.
[This message has been edited by Too Old (edited February 27, 2002).]

B-rad502
02-26-2002, 08:31 PM
The new Laveycraft 2750 Nu Era looks like a sweet set-up. They just did an article in one of the recent mags. It ran over 70 mph with single power running a 496HO. That's awesome! The price was somewhhat reasonable too. The only thing I don't understand is why they call it a 2750?? The boat actually measures out to 28'6".

Jochum
02-27-2002, 11:11 AM
A friend of mine owns a Velocity 23 with a 454 mag. It is a disaster... Has never broken 60 mph. Maybe it´s just too old and worn out..
The new models look cool though. Go for it!!

Too Old
02-27-2002, 02:00 PM
Jochum....those 23 Velocitys were just Regals using the Velocity name.
The real Velocitys were 22, 26 and 28 up boats.
Steve Stepp designs fast bottoms. Don't get confused with that 23.
[This message has been edited by Too Old (edited February 27, 2002).]

cigarette1
02-27-2002, 04:57 PM
Unless you plan to be the fastest on the water, why would you limit yourself to one boat because it ran the fastest compared to another the same size with same power in a magazine test. There is more to boating than having the fastest hull on the water because some guy is going to pull up on you with what you may think is a barge and proceed to show you what time it really is.
Not saying the Velocity is not the boat to buy, but 2-4 mph slower in a magazine test may result in a nicer boat. Then you can add a little umph and then you can show someone what time it really is.

Too Old
02-27-2002, 05:26 PM
One thing is for sure, and Cigarette 1 has already said it....THERES ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMEONE FASTER.
I wouldn't sacrifice everything for a couple miles an hour. Don't get me wrong. I like fast. I just sold fast and bought practical. This year I'm just gonna work on making "practical" look good. Next winter I can work on making "practical" haul the mail.
Summers just around the corner. I won't be fast, but I'm gonna look good gettin there!

jafo
02-27-2002, 06:44 PM
Too Old- Good to see your name in a post again!
My new (used) 28' AT will probably never be the fastest, but it will do mid-seventies on its stock 350MagMPI's, and will leave some boats behind in the rough stuff. Whipples are in its future- any guesses on top end then?

ActiveThunderTodd
02-27-2002, 07:15 PM
I was just going to post on the 28' Active Thunder but jafo beat me to it. In the rough stuff (read...real world offshore environment) the 28' AT will run away from a Velocity. I've ran along side velocitys (26' to 39') in my 32' AT that were faster on inland water but when we got out into the 3-4 ft slop offshore I blew 'em away http://free.***boat.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Too Old
02-27-2002, 07:40 PM
jafo, you are going to be one very happy guy with your new Active Thunder. I love the boats they build.
I don't have a clue on how fast it will run with those mods, but I bet you could call Pat or Steve and they could get you a real close number.

jafo
02-27-2002, 08:24 PM
We ran the boat out of the inlet at Pompano Beach last weekend in some real snotty water-it did great!
As far as the Whipples? Pat just rolls his eyes and smiles!

fwk
02-28-2002, 07:40 AM
I will chime in on this as I do have a old 27 excalibur and there had to be something wrong with the boat f20 talked about as my boat is 27' long and has a 7' beam and wieghs in at 3500# s wet and with the original 330 it ran 69 mph on radar. It does ride good for what it is and it's weight. Hull design also plays an important part in the ride of a boat. It is sad that wellcraft uses the name of a great boat for what they produce now. Forrest
From what I have read the VR-1 is the fastest power for power. But htere is no way to compare any of the boats as they all have diferrent characteristics, features and looks. I n the end you have to buy what you like.

Sunsation Kirk
02-28-2002, 08:34 AM
Udafed I would not buy the Velocity just because the test in PowerBoat. If you test the boat and like it that one thing but don't just go by their test.
As far as top speed, I agree with FWK their are so many variables involved in putting boat against boat. Their are several very fast hulls out there. Phanton, Superboat, Activator, Kryptonite, Progression, Fountain and others.
I have been in a 27' Progression that ran over 80 MPH with a stock HP-500 Carb very well built boat.
Look at the boats that best suit your needs, top speed isn't everything. Like Too Old said " their is always someone faster"
Kirk

caincando1
02-28-2002, 01:12 PM
I can't speak from personal experience. Just alot of research for a year or so now. I think I would have to agree that V is or is just about the fast V made. But remember just because it in the lead in one catagory doesn't mean it leads in all catagory that make a boat great. Personally they are on the top of my list.