Another reason to keep Kerry out of office

[River Lynchmob]

Both Ted Kennedy and John Kerry Voted Against President Bush's Tax Relief in 2001 and 2003.
Both Ted Kennedy and John Kerry Voted For Bill Clinton's 1993 Tax Increase -- the Largest Tax Increase in History.

[mikev]

so true

[Blown 472]

And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.

[HighRoller]

And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.
In other words, Democrats! Those who will vote for Bush are business owners, successful self-made millionaires and middle class people. Those who will vote for Kerry will be welfare payees, unemployed for two years union slobs and people looking for a handout. Everyone is always whining about "rich" Republicans, and how the Democrats support the "working" man. How do you think millionaires got that way? 88% of all millionaires are first generation, self-made millionaires. That means they EARNED their money. Ted Kennedy inherited his wealth and John Kerrry married into his. Sounds like they really "identify" with the working class.

[Essex502]

Lowering taxes is great but continuing to deficit spend WHILE lowering taxes isn't so great...our national debt is rocketing past 4 TRILLION dollars... If you stack $100 bills that stack laid on its side would stretch from Barstow to the end of I-40 in North Carolina or the equivalent of 2,500 miles of $100 bills. We have to quit deficit spending in some fashion...reduced expenditures in general or raising income to the government - something has to give.

[AdrenelineOD]

I cheat

[OutCole'd]

Originally posted by HighRoller
In other words, Democrats! Those who will vote for Bush are business owners, successful self-made millionaires and middle class people. Those who will vote for Kerry will be welfare payees, unemployed for two years union slobs and people looking for a handout. Everyone is always whining about "rich" Republicans, and how the Democrats support the "working" man. How do you think millionaires got that way? 88% of all millionaires are first generation, self-made millionaires. That means they EARNED their money. Ted Kennedy inherited his wealth and John Kerrry married into his. Sounds like they really "identify" with the working class.
How did GW get his money????
Earn it, ya right.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by OutCole'd
How did GW get his money????
Earn it, ya right.
He certainly was a business man. John Kerry was always a Government Lackie... and French Looking War Criminal....

[OutCole'd]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
He certainly was a business man. John Kerry was always a Government Lackie... and French Looking War Criminal....
A business man??? What business did he build?
What business did he get from his father??

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by OutCole'd
A business man??? What business did he build?
What business did he get from his father??
Why don't you tell me??????

[OutCole'd]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Why don't you tell me??????
Doc, you claimed him to be a business man, I am claiming he's gotten everything from his father and he is not a good business man.
So again, What business has he built?

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by OutCole'd
Doc, you claimed him to be a business man, I am claiming he's gotten everything from his father and he is not a good business man.
So again, What business has he built?
I only know what I have read. And I didn't say he BUILT businesses, I said he was a business man. I really don't know his Bio in detail, but thanks for the challenge... I will look into it.
I still maintain that Kerry was and is a government Lackie. I do not like the man at all...

[OutCole'd]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
I still maintain that Kerry was and is a government Lackie. I do not like the man at all...
I am not arguing this point at all, I do not like him either.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by River Lynchmob
Both Ted Kennedy and John Kerry Voted Against President Bush's Tax Relief in 2001 and 2003.
Both Ted Kennedy and John Kerry Voted For Bill Clinton's 1993 Tax Increase -- the Largest Tax Increase in History.
Provide me the facts of that statement - because while I'm not 100% certain, I believe it to be untrue. If I recall, the 1st President Bush lost his re-election to Clinton because (at least one of the reasons), at the time, he had the largest tax increase in the history of the US. Reagan had the biggest before that one- fact.
Junior got a job with a big texas oil company that his daddy got for him, and also owned a piece of the Texas Rangers baseball team. He was elected to the Texas State House, and I believe, in the midst of his second term (I think that was it) he ran for tyhe Governor. Both his time in the House and the Governor's Mansion were PART-TIME jobs - the Texas Government does not work FT. I think his "fortune" fell onto his lap, kind of like Kerry.....

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by Blown 472
And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.
You forgot to mention the economically illitorate. ;)

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by summerlove
Provide me the facts of that statement - because while I'm not 100% certain, I believe it to be untrue. If I recall, the 1st President Bush lost his re-election to Clinton because (at least one of the reasons), at the time, he had the largest tax increase in the history of the US. Reagan had the biggest before that one- fact.
Junior got a job with a big texas oil company that his daddy got for him, and also owned a piece of the Texas Rangers baseball team. He was elected to the Texas State House, and I believe, in the midst of his second term (I think that was it) he ran for tyhe Governor. Both his time in the House and the Governor's Mansion were PART-TIME jobs - the Texas Government does not work FT. I think his "fortune" fell onto his lap, kind of like Kerry.....
Your wish is my command:
Kerry voted to pass Clinton’s budget that raised taxes and cut spending. (H.R. 2264, Roll Call Vote #247: Adopted 51-50: R 0-44; D 50-6, With Vice President Gore Voting “Yea,” August 6, 1993)
Kerry voted against a $1.35 trillion tax cut package to reduce income-tax rates, alleviate the “marriage penalty” and gradually repeal the estate tax. (H.R. 1836, Roll Call Vote #165: Adopted 62-38: R 50-0; D 12-38, May 23, 2001)
Please note all the Pertinent information, bill numbers, roll call numbers, etc.
Dr. E expanding your knowledge......as if you care......:D

[goneboatin]

Well how much $$'s could be saved if we cut out benefits for illegals, such as unemployment, welfare, subsidized housing. Need I say more? Also what happened to all this oil we were supposed to use from Iraq to pay for to rebuild that country. Why aren't we using that money to fund this so-called "police action"?

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by goneboatin
Well how much $$'s could be saved if we cut out benefits for illegals, such as unemployment, welfare, subsidized housing. Need I say more? Also what happened to all this oil we were supposed to use from Iraq to pay for to rebuild that country. Why aren't we using that money to fund this so-called "police action"?
I don't think anyone has referred to this as a police action first of all. It is an occupation now.
The Oil as I understand it only brings in about $10 Billion a year. It will take a lot of tapping that to pay back the cost of this incursion.

[River Lynchmob]

Thanks Dr. Eagle you beat me to it. But good to know that someone else is able to back up statements with facts.

[91nordic29]

"Those who will vote for Kerry will be welfare payees, unemployed for two years union slobs and people looking for a handout."
i certainly dont fit into any of those categories.:confused:

[River Lynchmob]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 91nordic29
[B]"Those who will vote for Kerry will be welfare payees, unemployed for two years union slobs and people looking for a handout."
And those who are uninformed and don't do any research.

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
You forgot to mention the economically illitorate. ;)
Yeah dem too.

[AZKC]

Originally posted by Blown 472
And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.
Thanks for carring the torch today B472:D
Just thought I'd swing by and spread the love:D
http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/bolt.gif

[Blown 472]

Originally posted by AZKC
Thanks for carring the torch today B472:D
Just thought I'd swing by and spread the love:D
http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/bolt.gif
Rock on azkc.:D

[mirvin]

That's ok cuz none of this spunk matters.
Hillary 2008;)
mirvin

[058]

Originally posted by summerlove
Provide me the facts of that statement - because while I'm not 100% certain, I believe it to be untrue. If I recall, the 1st President Bush lost his re-election to Clinton because (at least one of the reasons), at the time, he had the largest tax increase in the history of the US. Reagan had the biggest before that one- fact.
Junior got a job with a big texas oil company that his daddy got for him, and also owned a piece of the Texas Rangers baseball team. He was elected to the Texas State House, and I believe, in the midst of his second term (I think that was it) he ran for tyhe Governor. Both his time in the House and the Governor's Mansion were PART-TIME jobs - the Texas Government does not work FT. I think his "fortune" fell onto his lap, kind of like Kerry..... THe first thing Klinton did when he was elected was enact the biggest tax increase in the history of the country, this was over and above the tax increase that the Democrat Congress conned Bush sr. into. Another thing Klinton did was re-define the "rich"...He put anyone making over $32K/annually into the "rich" catagory. All is a matter of record, you can check it out if you wish.

[CrazyHippy]

whoo hoo, i'm rich
BJH:rolleyes:

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by CrazyHippy
whoo hoo, i'm rich
BJH:rolleyes:
Me too... woo hoo...
GD Democrats.........:rolleyes:

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by AZKC
Thanks for carring the torch today B472:D
Just thought I'd swing by and spread the love:D
http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/bolt.gif
Say hi to that loser Catmando.....:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :p

[AzDon]

Originally posted by Blown 472
And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.
Get used to this folks, because the ranks of the "have nots" is growing as fast as the number of "haves" is shrinking! That is why Bush will only win if enough of the "have nots" stay home on election day or are fooled by his false advertizing!

[AzDon]

Originally posted by Essex502
Lowering taxes is great but continuing to deficit spend WHILE lowering taxes isn't so great...our national debt is rocketing past 4 TRILLION dollars... If you stack $100 bills that stack laid on its side would stretch from Barstow to the end of I-40 in North Carolina or the equivalent of 2,500 miles of $100 bills. We have to quit deficit spending in some fashion...reduced expenditures in general or raising income to the government - something has to give.
Everybody bitches about paying taxes, but it's a simple fact that the government needs a revenue stream in order to fulfill the financial obligations it has agreed to. Not enough revenue equals deficit spending equals a HUGE debt being hitched to our children. Bush has proven himself WAY more of a spendthrift with the taxpayers' money than Mr. Clinton was AND he's throwing back the revenue stream. No wonder we have the biggest deficit of all time!
You can bag on Kerry all you want, but in a straight-up comparison of character and dignity, you will not be able to honestly imply that he was a draft-dodger or a deserter. I'm not sure that Bush will ever be able to clearly refute the things being said about his military service. The reason these things didn't matter about Clinton is because he was percieved (and percieved himself) as a peacetime president who saw his mission being domestic issues. Bush sees himself as a "wartime president" but lacks a credible background in the military....that's the difference!

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by AzDon
a peacetime president who saw his mission being domestic issues.
Clinton is a Democrat, the party that panders to the poor with lots of goodies. I agree that GW has spent too much money, and that needs to stop. That doesn't mean taxes have to go up. Just like California it means there is a spending problem.
There was a professor of governmental studies in the 17th century that had a theory:
Democracy has a life cycle of about 200 to 300 years. This is because after a while the majority realized it can tax the minority and create themselves wealth by taking from the others in society. Eventually there is a revolt, return to despotism for a while and the cycle starts over.
Makes you say hmmmmmmmm doesn't it?

[sandblasted]

Kerry cracks me up...
He accuses Bush and the republicans of shipping jobs overseas but then it comes out that he and his wife own millions of dollars in Heinz stock. He forgot to mention that Heinz ships jobs overseas!!
Kerry and the democrats spent 8 years defending Clinton on the whole Vietnam issue and kept saying service in Vietnam was not needed to be president...Now he is questioning Bush on his Vietnam service..who the hell cares? Vietnam ended 30 years ago.
Kerry is on record as stating that all people running for government offices should release a full disclosure of their taxable income (Daily News today)..Now his wife is trying to hide her taxable income by saying her income is a personal matter...despite the fact that she has loaned millions of dollars to her husband's campaing fund...
Is Kerry a hypocrit? Absolutely...

[AzDon]

Kerry wouldn't really have been my first choice, but for all the ways GWB has left the American People hanging, I think Dan Quayle would be a more sincere (and better) choice.
Until we all get rebates from the electricity ripoff and until gas prices go down, I blame Bush because he's an energy industry insider and, so far, he's sided with the energy industry. If he at least appeared to be trying to fix these things, I could MAYBE give him the benefit of the doubt. It's just too hard for me to consider him credible when he works for "them" while openly taking their contributions and telling us "THERE IS NO INFLATION! (a bold lie!) If the opposition candidate ever gets around to asking the American People to base their vote on whether they feel "better off" than 4 years ago, Bush will be "OUTTA THERE"!

[RiverPirate]

I am way better off than 4 years ago. I have a bigger boat and a new truck. I spend more time at Havasu than four years ago. Its all good to me.
Bush made alot of his money with a small investment in the Texas Rangers that turned into a LARGE investment when he sold his interest.

[OGShocker]

Originally posted by Blown 472
And here is the irony of it, while all you folks on here with your big houses and boats and shit saying this and you believe it, your words fall short of reaching the people who are going to decied this event, the inner cities, the county areas, the people who are out of work.
Would it make socialists like you feel better if we ALL drove Kia's, played in our Bayliners and live in government housing? These people in the Donkey party want to limit YOUR lifestyle! Get this through your Focking head. THEY ARE NOT THE FRIENDS OF THE BOATING, RIDING or DRIVING PUBLIC!
Who took away 7 million acres of desert (via SB21)? The JackAss Party.
Who installed the 10% luxury tax of the 1980's? The JackAss Party.
Who is imposing AB1555 (the Noise Law) on you? The JackAss Party.
I would continue but I am typing to a guy too Focking dumb to move out of a depressed area to find a job so he might become a man again and support his family.
When I was young I ate beans everyday. I have been "down". This might freak you out a little but,,,,, I picked my sorry ass up and GOT TO WORK!
Wow, I think I need a hug :)

[Essex502]

Originally posted by eliminatedsprinter
You forgot to mention the economically illitorate. ;)
If you're gonna' use big words learn to spell them:
illiterate

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Essex502
If you're gonna' use big words learn to spell them:
illiterate
Thanks I was going to say something, but then I though "hmmmmm does it really matter?"......and decided the party involved would never get it.....

[Dave C]

What is this incessant attitude among some that society owes them benefits for free and that someone else should pay for it? I.E. welfare, unemployment, medical and prescription drug benefits. We should be paying for all this stuff ourselves and not sticking someone else with the bill. Society does NOT owe you a thing.
It would take far less revenue to pay for these benefits if everyone paid for them rather than sticking the tab on just a small percentage of productive people. Then we wouldn’t have such budget deficits.
It might just be me but I prefer to pay my own way rather than whine about someone else picking up my bills.
Then again if someone offers me something for free, I ask them how much its going to cost me?;)

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Dave C
What is this incessant attitude among some that society owes them benefits for free and that someone else should pay for it? I.E. welfare, unemployment, medical and prescription drug benefits. We should be paying for all this stuff ourselves and not sticking someone else with the bill. Society does NOT owe you a thing.
It would take far less revenue to pay for these benefits if everyone paid for them rather than sticking the tab on just a small percentage of productive people. Then we wouldn’t have such budget deficits.
It might just be me but I prefer to pay my own way rather than whine about someone else picking up my bills.
Then again if someone offers me something for free, I ask them how much its going to cost me?;)
Capatilist Pig!!!!!!
LOL
GIVE THE MAN A HARUMPH!
HARUMPH, HARUMPH!!!!!!!!
Right on Dave-O. I am sick of having my pocket picked at ever increasing rates because I have been able to make a decent living (remember the democratic party definition of rich, $32K). I am not rich but pay the second highest marginal tax rate. For what? Defense... I am OK with that! The EPA... Not OK with that. All the million other departments and bureaus in the Federal Megalopoly...eff no.

[AzDon]

Originally posted by Dave C
What is this incessant attitude among some that society owes them benefits for free and that someone else should pay for it? I.E. welfare, unemployment, medical and prescription drug benefits. We should be paying for all this stuff ourselves and not sticking someone else with the bill. Society does NOT owe you a thing.
It would take far less revenue to pay for these benefits if everyone paid for them rather than sticking the tab on just a small percentage of productive people. Then we wouldn’t have such budget deficits.
It might just be me but I prefer to pay my own way rather than whine about someone else picking up my bills.
Then again if someone offers me something for free, I ask them how much its going to cost me?;)
These discussions always seem to eventually include the "dredging up" of the worn-out entitlement label being stuck on anybody that believes that the government should prevent the extinction of the middle class! I resent this implication being made in this era when jobs paying a livable wage are disappearing. How can you say that people don't want to work when there are no livable wage jobs to be offerred to them?
If "welfare", though below the poverty threshhold, pays more than minimum wage, it is a problem with minimum wage!
As for "societal benefits", I will not feel "entitled" to disability, unemployment, social security, medicare etc. when the government refunds every cent that's been paid into these programs on my behalf and they stop taking this stuff out of my paycheck! I HAVE PAID INTO THESE PROGRAMS EXPECTING TO SOMEDAY (MAYBE) DRAW FROM THEM! IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR (SO-CALLED) PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE!

[OGShocker]

I can never figure out whether AZDon needs a hug or a swift kick in the JUNK!?!;)

[AzDon]

As for healthcare issues in general, I believe that the government should make all healthcare costs "expensible" (as in "before profit") for all entities, including individuals who earn wages (which would be called a "tax credit" in personal income tax jargon) I've never believed that healthcare benefits should be tied to a person's employment.
Until the government does this, I don't think they will be heavily enough invested in healthcare costs to care that the medical establishment's pricing is a major ripoff that needs some sensible controls put on it!

[AzDon]

Originally posted by OGShocker
I can never figure out whether AZDon needs a hug or a swift kick in the JUNK!?!;)
I don't think that "scorched earth" conservatives posess the sensitivity, compassion, or genuine sincerity to hug a stranger (excluding sexual foreplay) and truly mean it!

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by AzDon
Until the government does this, I don't think they will be heavily enough invested in healthcare costs to care that the medical establishment's pricing is a major ripoff that needs some sensible controls put on it!
What is one of the largest reason for the high costs?????
Lawsuits......... Trial Lawyers love the medical business.......
Doctors and hospitals have bought a lot of lawyers jaguars and those nice big houses that Blown472 mentioned earlier or in another post....
We are the most litigious society in the world. More than 1/3 (or was it 2/3, I don't remember) of the attorneys in the world live and practice in the US. That is why a lot of foriegn companies don't come here to do business, or leave after working here for some time.

[Essex502]

Originally posted by AzDon
These discussions always seem to eventually include the "dredging up" of the worn-out entitlement label being stuck on anybody that believes that the government should prevent the extinction of the middle class! I resent this implication being made in this era when jobs paying a livable wage are disappearing. How can you say that people don't want to work when there are no livable wage jobs to be offerred to them?
If "welfare", though below the poverty threshhold, pays more than minimum wage, it is a problem with minimum wage!
As for "societal benefits", I will not feel "entitled" to disability, unemployment, social security, medicare etc. when the government refunds every cent that's been paid into these programs on my behalf and they stop taking this stuff out of my paycheck! I HAVE PAID INTO THESE PROGRAMS EXPECTING TO SOMEDAY (MAYBE) DRAW FROM THEM! IT'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR (SO-CALLED) PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE!
Livable wages? Are people "entitled" to livable wages? No. Hell NO! Get educated or be an entrepreneur and make your wage whatever you can get. A smart boss of mine long ago told me - when I was bitchin' about how little I made - "Go out that door right over there and see how much you can make out there. You're worth whatever you can make walking out that door." I'll never forget that comment and live by it today. If someone doesn't make a livable wage it is usually due to their own indifference towards education, their unwillingness to sacrifice their pleasures for getting an education, their unwillingness to develop a skill, their unwillingness to work hard, or their downright laziness. Nothing else. They are not ENTITLED to a living wage. They are not ENTITLED to one dime of my hard earned money in any way, shape, or form.
If people don't like getting paid what WalMart pays them then work somewhere else.

[Essex502]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
What is one of the largest reason for the high costs?????
Lawsuits......... Trial Lawyers love the medical business.......
Doctors and hospitals have bought a lot of lawyers jaguars and those nice big houses that Blown472 mentioned earlier or in another post....
We are the most litigious society in the world. More than 1/3 (or was it 2/3, I don't remember) of the attorneys in the world live and practice in the US. That is why a lot of foriegn companies don't come here to do business, or leave after working here for some time.
Not only lawsuits and attornies are the causes...it's also the healthcare industries need to have the latest and greatest new medical device - sometimes with very little incremental increase in performance and way higher costs.

[AzDon]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
What is one of the largest reason for the high costs?????
Lawsuits......... Trial Lawyers love the medical business.......
Doctors and hospitals have bought a lot of lawyers jaguars and those nice big houses that Blown472 mentioned earlier or in another post....
We are the most litigious society in the world. More than 1/3 (or was it 2/3, I don't remember) of the attorneys in the world live and practice in the US. That is why a lot of foriegn companies don't come here to do business, or leave after working here for some time.
I would love to see litigation removed from the medical arena! Perhaps we could replace it with a publicly controlled rating system for medical service providers. Perhaps we could have realistic medical review that puts incompetent providers out of business.
Malpractice and insurance are scapegoat issues that the medical establishment uses to justify their pricing. Another is "indigent care", where they imply that they "forgive" the bills of those that are unable to pay. What actually happens is that they turn these bills to collection and eventually get them as a "writeoff" on their taxes. Meanwhile, They stick-it to the rest of us!

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Essex502
Not only lawsuits and attornies are the causes...it's also the healthcare industries need to have the latest and greatest new medical device - sometimes with very little incremental increase in performance and way higher costs.
True, that is another reason, but the primary reason, largest component is the direct and indirect cost of lawsuits.
The indirect costs include procedures that would not normally be requested by the doctor, but is requested to "cover my ass" so that an attorney could not find a chink in the doctors care. This adds tons of costs to the health care system, additional blood tests, x-rays, cat scans, etc.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by Essex502
If you're gonna' use big words learn to spell them:
illiterate
Sorry, OOOOP's. I shouldn't rush so much.....:rolleyes:
Thanks for pointing out the error in my ways. ;)
I've just noticed that not too many of the people I know, who have any knowledge in the area of economics, think the guy with the farthest left voting record in the senate is a legitimate replacement for Bush, despite his flaws.:boxed:

[Dave C]

WOW... Essex and I agree about something...... that's scary..... Your all right Essex!
Living wage is another term for subsidy.... in other words...... someone else is paying for you again!!!!!!
Originally posted by Essex502
Livable wages? Are people "entitled" to livable wages? No. Hell NO! Get educated or be an entrepreneur and make your wage whatever you can get. A smart boss of mine long ago told me - when I was bitchin' about how little I made - "Go out that door right over there and see how much you can make out there. You're worth whatever you can make walking out that door." I'll never forget that comment and live by it today. If someone doesn't make a livable wage it is usually due to their own indifference towards education, their unwillingness to sacrifice their pleasures for getting an education, their unwillingness to develop a skill, their unwillingness to work hard, or their downright laziness. Nothing else. They are not ENTITLED to a living wage. They are not ENTITLED to one dime of my hard earned money in any way, shape, or form.
If people don't like getting paid what WalMart pays them then work somewhere else.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by 91nordic29
"Those who will vote for Kerry will be welfare payees, unemployed for two years union slobs and people looking for a handout."
i certainly dont fit into any of those categories.:confused:
I don't fit into that category either...While I will most likely vote for Kerry in November, I am an educated, never been on welfare, gainfully employed, never received a handout successful male. Oh, and I do not belong to a union.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Your wish is my command:
Kerry voted to pass Clinton’s budget that raised taxes and cut spending. (H.R. 2264, Roll Call Vote #247: Adopted 51-50: R 0-44; D 50-6, With Vice President Gore Voting “Yea,” August 6, 1993)
Kerry voted against a $1.35 trillion tax cut package to reduce income-tax rates, alleviate the “marriage penalty” and gradually repeal the estate tax. (H.R. 1836, Roll Call Vote #165: Adopted 62-38: R 50-0; D 12-38, May 23, 2001)
Please note all the Pertinent information, bill numbers, roll call numbers, etc.
Dr. E expanding your knowledge......as if you care......:D
Oh, Good Doctor, I do care!;)
While Kerry voted for Clinton's tax plan, you did not answer my question - I do not believe it was the "largest" tax increase in our Nation's history. I still believe that that crown is shared by Bush Sr. and then closely followed by Reagan. I 'll admit it if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.... Now, we may be splitting hairs, because with the budget's going up from year to year, it is possible that this did occur. Just not 100% certain.
Oh, and BTW, I seem to recall a shrinking defecit under the prior admiistration. not so today...:confused:
Hope you had a great time in LV and won lots of money! Last time there I came home with considerable more than I went with - for a change!:D

[Dave C]

The Clinton tax hikes inreased the gas tax & taxable SSI threasholds and increased income tax rates for all brackets. These tax increases passed by Clinton represented the largest tax increases in history.
Your probably right though one of these days a future one will be bigger due the change in absolute dollars.

[Dribble]

B]If someone doesn't make a livable wage it is usually due to their own indifference towards education, their unwillingness to sacrifice their pleasures for getting an education, their unwillingness to develop a skill, their unwillingness to work hard, or their downright laziness. Nothing else. They are not ENTITLED to a living wage. They are not ENTITLED to one dime of my hard earned money in any way, shape, or form.[/B]
You couldn't be more right. There is a concept out there called PAYING YOUR DUES I know I did for a long time. Wiped down cars in a car wash for 1.65 an hour, graduated to doing valve jobs, brakes and putting engines in cars for $1.90 an hour.
If people who make a half assed decent living stopped and figured out what they actually pay in all the different taxes and fees every year and then really found out where it goes there would be a revolt. I for one am sick of it[