Ebay car scam

[Garrddogg]

Check out this scam (on ebay for a minute)
Hes prolly almost countin his $$$$$$$$$$$
Gonna keep workin him....there must be people that fall for this shit though!
Dear sir ,
I have a lot oferts for my car but I made a decision ,who will wire me 3000$
deposit today will have the car.I really need money today so the only thing
i can tell you is that the car will be yours if you send me the deposit fast
otherwhise someone else can send it to me until you .I am soory for my
decision I dont want to hurry you but as I told you I reealy ned money.
Thank you
>From: "Gary Menser" <gmenser@mminternet.com>
>To: "'william steed'" <>
>Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:11:23 -0700
>
>Do you have a link to or pics of the car?
>Make sure I have this right, $3,000 initial deposit and you send the
>car if I like the car I send you $2450.00 shipping costs $35.00
>fee,$412.00 insurance. For a total of $2897 shipping & fees plus the
>remaining $ 4000.Where in Italy are you located?
>Also do they cover the car for shipping?
> Thanks hope to hear from you soon
> Gary
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: william steed [mailto:]
>Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:34 PM
>To: gmenser@mminternet.com
>Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
>
>Its an US car so if it would be return to US, will come without paying
>any taxes on it.I've currently received a quote from cargo
>international logistics for $2450.00 shipping costs $35.00 fee and
>$412.00 for
>insurance.
>if you know of alternative shipping with less cost please let me know.
>it is being shipped to Port of Long Beach from Perugia,Italy.
>Delivery by Moving&Shipping Cargo Logistics.The time line is 12 to 15
>days from loading on the ship company, for the car to arrive to an port
>of
>entry, nearest to you.From there i will can arrage also the shipping
>with an track company to you location, or if you prefer you can go to
>pick
>up from there yourself. This Company can be contacted on the Internet
>and
>has a rate sheet for viewing and printing.I use them for all of my
>shipping in the USA and worldwide.If you email me nearest port of you i
>will
>give
>you a very close rate for shipping to your location.
>INSURANCE
>The car will be insured at the delivery service for the amount.If
>somethig happens on the road , you will receive the insurance from the
>delivery
>service.
>RETURN POLICY
>As soon as the car arrives, you will can test it and if it does not
>matches 100% to your expectations, you will return it in max. 30 days
>sience
>the arrival date. In this case I will send you the full amount back and
>you will send me the car back and i will pay the return shipping and
>insurance.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gary Menser" <gmenser@mminternet.com>
> >To: "'william steed'" <>
> >Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
> >Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:42:04 -0700
> >
> >The closest port is Long Beach. Is there any rust on the car? I lost
>the
> >auction # can you send it or pics if the car hasn't been sold yet.
> >One final ? does it have a floor shifter? (oh yeah how much is it to
> >ship the car and how long will it take?)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Gary
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: william steed [mailto]
> >Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:04 PM
> >To: gmenser@mminternet.com
> >Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
> >
> >Good evening,
> >
> >The 1969 Chevrolet Camaro 2-Door Hardtop , is in a
> >perfect condition with only 14500 mileage.It will be shipped from
> >ITALY and you have to pay the shipping and insurance charges.So email
>me
> >the
> >name of the nearest port of you, for i can calculate the fees and
> >give you the
> >total that you have to pay for the car.
> >The car title is clear.The original receipt and all remainded warranty
> >information packet with enrollment number is included for you. If
> >necessary ever I will assist you in getting warranty help; most people
> >on
> >ebay
> >just dump it on you with a useless warranty.
> >Right now it is ready to ship.
> >The terms are a deposit of $3000 and balance due in 5 days.
> >The price we hope to obtain is US $7,000.00 and if you agree with this
> >price we can start to complete the transaction.
> >The payment must be done using a wire transfer.
> >The inspection period for it is 30 days.
> >If you agree with these terms,let me know and i will be more than glad
> >to start to complete the transaction with you.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >

[Dr. Eagle]

There are lots of scammers on ebay these days.
I was looking at a supposedly brand new Sea Doo supercharged GTX and they were only asking 1/2 price. They required you to pre-register, it was set up so that you could not bid, you had to email the guy.
Then when he'd gotten enough emails, he pulled the listing for "errors". Then he emailed me and wanted me to wire the 4K to his account in the Netherlands.
I wrote him back asking why he'd pulled it from ebay.
w/o satisfactory answer, I told him it'd have to go through Escrow.com or no go. He said he didn't think that'd work out for him and I reported him to ebay. They immediately pulled the listings, and he showed up several times under different user accounts each time.
That is why you never, ever answer the Phish emails asking for your account ID and password. That is how this no good yutz got ahold of peoples accounts so he could sell phony stuff under that persons ID. I just got one of those last week. Always report it as quickly as possible to ebay security if it smells funny, I always do. :mad:

[Mr.Havasu]

O.k. Gary, what are you doing buying a car? Remember you need to pay for a house and a kick ass boat first!
Let's keep focused here:D

[Garrddogg]

Originally posted by warlock25
O.k. Gary, what are you doing buying a car? Remember you need to pay for a house and a kick ass boat first!
Let's keep focused here:D
You are right!:yuk:
I just used my 69 Z28 $ jumping to a 500 EFI....
FOCUS,FOCUS,FOCUS!

[RacerX]

These "scammers" crack me up. You'd think that they would at least do the ads and e-mail with "respectable" spelling and grammar to come off more legit.....I understand thatthey are supposed to be "foreigners" but geez, it looks like a 1st grader is doing the e-mails in that thread....:yuk:

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by RacerX
These "scammers" crack me up. You'd think that they would at least do the ads and e-mail with "respectable" spelling and grammar to come off more legit.....I understand thatthey are supposed to be "foreigners" but geez, it looks like a 1st grader is doing the e-mails in that thread....:yuk:
Yeah, but it seems that they are fairly sophisticated in their setup. The guy I was bantering with (several times) on the Sea Doos (I recognized the pictures and wanted to get him to say whatever I could about his location, which changed every time of course) said he had banks in the Netherlands, the US, Italy, the UK and France. I recognized these listings as fraud immediately after the first email exchange, and was suspicious before. Just seemed too good to be true... like the old adage.
I passed any correspondence to ebay security for thier use. I actually saw one where a listing for a Sea Doo the fraudulent listing had been modified by the true account holder and said something like "DO NOT BID THIS IS A FRAUDULENT LISTING, SOMEONE ELSE IS USING MY EBAY ID".
I guess if they keep trying long enough, someone will be stupid enough to send them the money.
:mad: :p :mad:

[Garrddogg]

gotto keep playin with him, here is a pic of the car

[Garrddogg]

Sound good to me
-----Original Message-----
From: william steed [.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:18 PM
To: gmenser@mminternet.com
Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
if you want to buy it with reealy you must go to western union and put the
deposit on my name,imediatly I will have your payment confirmation I will
cancel the other deals and I will start shipping imediatly.If you are agree
please email me back and I will give you my phone mumber and my adress.
Thank you
>From: "Gary Menser" <gmenser@mminternet.com>
>To: "'william steed'" <.com>
>Subject: RE: Question from eBay Member: Chevrolet : Camaro
>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:36:04 -0700
>
>Where are you located? and how will we do the $ thing?
>