Greasing the pump bearing???

[Nubbs]

Instead of a normal grease zerk (sp?) for the bearing on my pump, I have this stupid "automatic" greaser. The "automatic" greaser threads into the pump via 1/8"NPT threads. The greaser has a zerk and a clear plastic bowl with a spring and piston inside. The spring pushes the piston and keeps the grease under pressure. Well, I took mine apart the other day and found all the grease in the plastic bowl was hard. So no grease was exiting the greaser. I cleaned it out and put some new grease in. Now a little grease comes out, but it's not forced out very hard. So I got a couple questions. I'm using some "marine" grease that is blue in color. Has anybody else had problems with that grease getting hard? Should I be using a different kind of grease? Also, is anybody else using the wonderful greaser? Is my greaser faulty?
Thanks
Nubbs

[77charger]

I use to use the high temp red grease.Reason being it is better for the bearing since it gets hot.Another reason if you have water in the bearing area you have a bad seal.

[mgar_red]

Is it like one of these?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/1176B1741-A.jpg
That's one Alemite makes. You can change the springs ( 3 ) for different flow rates. I'm not sure, but you may be able to purchase their replacement springs to try in yours, and they may be compadible. There are different companies that make similar ones, but more catered to industry than consumers.

[Foggerjet]

That thing is kinda cool, do they work? Obviously nubbs had trouble with his, but in general is is a good product? mgar_red, do you run this doo-dad?
fog

[HammerDown]

For years I've used pretty much the same type of unit I got from Granger...it works perfectly.
One time the Black Molly grease I used became hard over the winter months, but since then I've been using Kendall Super Blue and haven't had that issue.
I spoke to the manufacture about their Auto Greaser, I was told the Bearing actually helps draw/suck the grease out of the unit as it needs it and the spring more or less keeps the grease packed and void of air bubbles. Works great!

[Rexone]

I would not recommend using the blue marine grease as it gets hard and caked up as you describe. We use NEO synthetic grease (red) and it works well in most all marine apps including wheel bearings. There are several co's. that make the good red grease though. My experience is that the blue stuff sucks.

[jetboater5]

I have used one of these units for years now. Never had any trouble with it. The nice thing about them is you always know if your bearing has grease avaliable. I have used the mystic jt-7 red grease never had a problem with it getting hard.

[Nubbs]

Originally posted by Rexone
I would not recommend using the blue marine grease as it gets hard and caked up as you describe. My experience is that the blue stuff sucks.
So do I need to get rid of the blue stuff that's in my pump bearing and wheel bearings? How do I get rid of that stuff?
:confused:

[Taylorman]

Originally posted by mgar_red
Is it like one of these?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/1176B1741-A.jpg
That's one Alemite makes. You can change the springs ( 3 ) for different flow rates. I'm not sure, but you may be able to purchase their replacement springs to try in yours, and they may be compadible. There are different companies that make similar ones, but more catered to industry than consumers.
Where can you buy one of these?

[mgar_red]

Originally posted by Foggerjet
That thing is kinda cool, do they work? Obviously nubbs had trouble with his, but in general is is a good product? mgar_red, do you run this doo-dad?
fog
I got one of these after seeing it in Solec's book. It was on an American Turbine pump and looks almost identicle to one of these.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1176lubesite300.jpg
Another company that makes them is Uniquip, for around $40.
Taylorman, you can get one in about a day or two out of Houston from an Alemite distributor for about $30 ( s/h total ) to your door. It's called a Visilube* P/N B1741-A. Be sure to get the adapter to go from the VisiLube's 1/8 thread to the grease zerk size. Alemite P/N 51942 1/4"-28 Taper Thread ( SAE-LT ) (m) x 1/8" NPTF (f). They're only about a buck each, but I didn't think it needed any such adapter and had hell finding one locally.
Here's a link to their site ( it's at the bottom of the page ) http://www.ajfittings.com/easylube.htm
I'm running some Almasol* 1250 ( red ) high temp that was "loaned" to me to sample from a nearby refinery. It's made by Lubrication Engineers out of Fort Worth, and says it wont run or drip, and is non-melting. We used to use the kool-aid motor oil from them when I worked in the oilfield. Expensive shit, and my boss would by it by the 55gal drums to use in his fleet.

[Duane HTP]

This is spam, but it solves the problem.
http://www.hi-techperformance.com/images/image37.jpg

[Jake W]

Duane while we are on the subject of these jar things is this the same thing as you would use for the Jetaway resivor just with out the spring in it?
Jake:D

[Taylorman]

Originally posted by mgar_red
I got one of these after seeing it in Solec's book. It was on an American Turbine pump and looks almost identicle to one of these.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1176lubesite300.jpg
Another company that makes them is Uniquip, for around $40.
Taylorman, you can get one in about a day or two out of Houston from an Alemite distributor for about $30 ( s/h total ) to your door. It's called a Visilube* P/N B1741-A. Be sure to get the adapter to go from the VisiLube's 1/8 thread to the grease zerk size. Alemite P/N 51942 1/4"-28 Taper Thread ( SAE-LT ) (m) x 1/8" NPTF (f). They're only about a buck each, but I didn't think it needed any such adapter and had hell finding one locally.
Here's a link to their site ( it's at the bottom of the page ) http://www.ajfittings.com/easylube.htm
I'm running some Almasol* 1250 ( red ) high temp that was "loaned" to me to sample from a nearby refinery. It's made by Lubrication Engineers out of Fort Worth, and says it wont run or drip, and is non-melting. We used to use the kool-aid motor oil from them when I worked in the oilfield. Expensive shit, and my boss would by it by the 55gal drums to use in his fleet.
Thats pretty cool. Ive been thinking about something like this. Its like a bearing buddy for wheel bearings right. Without it you never know if you need more grease.

[HammerDown]

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http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1176lubesite300.jpg
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This looks like the same unit I have. Not much more then 20 smakers from Granger.
Rex., Don't know what "Blue Grease" you feel is bad. But the Kendall Super Blue (non Marine) is an Excellent Extreme Pressure product that more than meets the requirements for the Thrust Bearing and than some.
I use it for everything...actually I just bought a 12 pack(case) for the grease gun today.

[Rexone]

Originally posted by HammerDown
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http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1176lubesite300.jpg
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This looks like the same unit I have. Not much more then 20 smakers from Granger.
Rex., Don't know what "Blue Grease" you feel is bad. But the Kendall Super Blue (non Marine) is an Excellent Extreme Pressure product that more than meets the requirements for the Thrust Bearing and than some.
I use it for everything...actually I just bought a 12 pack(case) for the grease gun today.
The blue I was referring to was the Sta-lube type "marine" wheel bearing grease. turns to cake which offers little lubrication. never used the Kendall but Kendall product in general are excellent. The Lubrication Engineers Amasol product mentioned above is excellent also.

[Duane HTP]

Jake, The answer to your question is yes.

[shaun]

any body have pics of there boat with this thing actually hooked up?
Duane: i'm assuming that when you say it solves the problem you are talking about the greese getting hard?

[shaun]

Also, anybody have the link to where you can purchase this one?
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1176lubesite300.jpg

[Taylorman]

Grainger (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611786966&ccitem=)
Im going buy one tomorrow.

[shaun]

this one is only 25 buck and the looks pretty much the same. I couldnt find any diffrences..
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611786965&ccitem=

[mgar_red]

Sorry, I didn't intend to spam the thread with the link, only helping Taylorman out. Oh, and the Alemite one from A&J's is only $22.68. The total after shipping came out to $30.07, but I didn't get the adapter, so maybe a dollar more. How much does Grainger charge on shipping?

[quiet riot]

Ditto on what rexone said about the blue marine grease. We quit using it at a marina I worked at in college many years ago cause the wheel bearings it was designed for had about 1/4 the life on average compared to just using plain old red wheel bearing grease.
jd

[Taylorman]

Originally posted by Shaun
this one is only 25 buck and the looks pretty much the same. I couldnt find any diffrences..
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/productdetail.jsp?xi=xi&ItemId=1611786965&ccitem=
That one says its for minimal vibration. The one i posted said for vibrating conditions.
Originally posted by mgar_red
Sorry, I didn't intend to spam the thread with the link, only helping Taylorman out. Oh, and the Alemite one from A&J's is only $22.68. The total after shipping came out to $30.07, but I didn't get the adapter, so maybe a dollar more. How much does Grainger charge on shipping?
I have a Grainger in my town. I don't think they charge shipping though.

[shaun]

oh ok, missed that part.
Also, these clear things look pretty and all right now but what about when you greese them up?

[Nubbs]

You can see the grease through the clear.

[mgar_red]

Here's the one I have. It had to go at the 45* angle or it would not clear the bottom of my top mount starter, which is out getting rebuilt at the moment.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/1176visilube.jpg