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HighRoller
04-30-2004, 03:35 PM
So a couple months ago the cops pull this guy over. Obviously something was suspicious because it was a full blown felony stop, guns drawn and all. Well, the dirtbag ends up getting shot and killed while still sitting in his car. Of course the black people have been out for blood, saying over and over how the cops shot an"unarmed and defenseless man". The newspeople fell into step with the PC and black crowd, never saying why the guy was stopped or what he did wrong. Well, the Grand Jury ruled not to indict, meaning it was a righteous shoot because you can get a grand jury to indict a pencil if you want. Well, that wasn't satisafactory to the Pro-PC mayor, so now we're having a "public inquest" into the shootings. It's a total joke. You've got witnesses contradicting each other, even at one point one lady angrily describing how the officers "came at him with guns drawn and started shooting." Unfortunately only two shots were fired, both by the same officer. So anyways, it looks like he'll be found not guilty in this round as well because several witnesses have supported the officers claim that the scumbag reached into his pocket despite the fact that the officer was attempting to restrain him. BUT, next we have an "internal administrative review" within the Police department, probably designed to give the cops a way to fire this guy if the heat becomes too much to bear. And finally, after that sham is over the Civil attorneys are lined up to sue in civil court and there will also be an inquiry by the city to determine if the dirtbag's civil rights were violated. What about the rights of the Police officer??? This is nothing but an inquisition designed to somehow, someway find this guy guilty and appease the minority population. I feel bad for this officer, he's most certainly going to lose his job and probably never be able to work as an officer again anywhere after the character assasination performed the local media. Sorry, but I just had to vent. It sucks that criminals have all the rights and we're hell-bent to prosecute those who stand up against them!!! Note to scumbags, thieves, dirtbags, dopers and deadbeats:WHEN A POLICE OFFICER TELLS YOU TO STOP, SHOW YOUR HANDS, OR GET OUT OF THE VEHICLE, DO IT!!!! DON'T SCREW AROUND, DON'T RESIST, DON'T DIG IN YOUR POCKETS OR THE GLOVE BOX OR UNDER YOUR SEAT BECAUSE YOU WILL BE CAPPED!! I think anyone who resists arrest in a dangerous way should be shot on sight. That will get the message out that cooperation is mandatory.

moonridge
04-30-2004, 03:48 PM
i have been seeing that crap all over the news up here. It is getting a little annoying.

Krazy K
04-30-2004, 03:54 PM
What if the officer was black? You think it would be such a big deal like it is?? I don't think so!

mirvin
04-30-2004, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Krazy K
What if the officer was black? You think it would be such a big deal like it is?? I don't think so!
I don't know Krazy K? Remember Officer Jeremy Morse, down here, maybe Inglewood? He got in trouble for slamming that kid into his hood after (he says) the kid grabbed his junk? Well his partner was black and they tried to get him for lying in his report!!!
It seems that the only thing worse then a white cop is a black one;)
mirvin

Kilrtoy
04-30-2004, 05:00 PM
And people wonder why crime is on the rise:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Kilrtoy
04-30-2004, 05:19 PM
If you can practice tolerance when all around you are objects of intolerance.
If you can deal in human filth without letting part of it rub off on you.
If you can wash a victim's blood from your uniform and treat it as the dust of your profession.
If you can take the broken body of a child from a screaming mother and hold back emotion.
If you can see the citizens of your community convict you without a trial and still believe in human rights.
If you can helplessly watch the courts dismiss a known criminal and still believe in justice.
If you can see your children belittled by their friends because you are a 'cop" and still treat them as friends.
If you can guarantee rights to all, while they are denied to you, and still believe in the "Bill of Rights".
If you can accept oral praise rather than a pay raise because it is politically popular and not complain.
If you can attend church with the same people that curse you on Saturday nights and still see good in all people.
If you can accept a salary less than most welfare cases and still support your family.
If you can accept all these things my friend..and not become bitter...you are a "POLICE OFFICER

Krazy K
04-30-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by Kilrtoy
If you can practice tolerance when all around you are objects of intolerance.
If you can deal in human filth without letting part of it rub off on you.
If you can wash a victim's blood from your uniform and treat it as the dust of your profession.
If you can take the broken body of a child from a screaming mother and hold back emotion.
If you can see the citizens of your community convict you without a trial and still believe in human rights.
If you can helplessly watch the courts dismiss a known criminal and still believe in justice.
If you can see your children belittled by their friends because you are a 'cop" and still treat them as friends.
If you can guarantee rights to all, while they are denied to you, and still believe in the "Bill of Rights".
If you can accept oral praise rather than a pay raise because it is politically popular and not complain.
If you can attend church with the same people that curse you on Saturday nights and still see good in all people.
If you can accept a salary less than most welfare cases and still support your family.
If you can accept all these things my friend..and not become bitter...you are a "POLICE OFFICER
Amen, brother!!
My dad was a cop for a couple years in the late 60's in Pasadena,CA. He quit when I was born. Didn't want to not come home one night.

AdrenelineOD
04-30-2004, 06:54 PM
I remember in NYC the same think about 4 or 5 years ago. A scumbag gets shot in harlem and they cryed racizm ( Im not saying blacks are scum) So Juliani (the Mayer at the time) said "fine then I`ll just put all black cops in black neaghborhoods and see what The comunity sais when it happens again.;)
I was in a bar watching tv when he said that. The whole place broke out in laughter.:D

vdrivenman
04-30-2004, 07:40 PM
hopefully if he GJ failed to indict him. the internal review will & should follow suit, unless they get him on small technical BS. If he was not indicted and the IAD clears him, then the city has to represent him and the scum knows the city will pay off w/o going to court.
hope the officers have a good union and attorneys to represent them.
they(city hall)want to sit back and take weeks and months to decide if you acted properly , when you only had milli seconds to decide to shot or not. too many times city hall sells the officer out to pacify the MINORITY community.
they hate ALL cops no matter what your race.i've heard black officers tell blacks I ain't ur bruther, i am a brother in blue.they call them uncle tom's,pigs,and even use the N word ! imagine that!
they need to give the PO a jury of his peers,all po's and let them decide, should it get that far. i'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
if he is not convicted and does get fired he can still get hired other places.
makes you wonder why someone would take a job like that !
both my brothers and my wife r X-po's, one son is and the other is currently in the hiring process !
I am PROUD of them !

UtlGoa
04-30-2004, 08:49 PM
Thank God I'm getting retired. I've put up with the political crap for ten years now. Been shot once already. Let me tell you once kids come into your life the ball game changes.

Kilrtoy
04-30-2004, 09:21 PM
Let me tell you once kids come into your life the ball game changes
I thought it was once you get sued Once you get wise and find the blinders

UtlGoa
04-30-2004, 09:51 PM
Already been sued once, that was a pain in the ass. In my case when my daughter came into the world it changed my out look on alot of things. So now that I destroyed my knee on duty, I'm getting out. At least I'll be getting 50% of my pay tax free for life. I can go work at Mcdonalds now and make more than I was as a "Public servant"

Kilrtoy
04-30-2004, 09:58 PM
ULTGOA
speaks volumes

UtlGoa
04-30-2004, 10:22 PM
Hey Kilrtoy,
With the HIV thing going around the porn business when is Chatsworth going to dry up and blow away? :p

Kilrtoy
04-30-2004, 10:50 PM
It just may do that, this town is run on porn, huge mansions growing pot and the hells angels. At least the Candy Cat will have some new and top talent nightly

Phat Matt
05-01-2004, 02:31 AM
to long to read...

kp216
05-01-2004, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by vdrivenman
they need to give the PO a jury of his peers,all po's and let them decide, should it get that far.
Amen! I have been saying that for the last 24 years.:mad:

vdrivenman
05-01-2004, 06:47 AM
i started my career in 1973. i to have been shot and was a motor officer for ten years and had two bad accidents.
i have been off the streets now since 90 so the present danger is not as bad, but the case load strees is high.
i need 4 yr's to go out the door at Full benefits. i'll be 56, hopefully i won't blow a gasket or go postal b 4 then.
i tried talking my boys into a different line of work,but they said no. don't buy into the crap about wanting to help folks and all that.it's a job. different everyday,sometimes rewarding. you have to make it out to be a GAME and not take it too serious or take it home. i can say i have NEVER regretted my job choice.

Forkin' Crazy
05-01-2004, 07:21 AM
What? You mean the NAACP is not there yet?:mad:
We had a similar incident happen in Shreveport, LA. A black guy was walking down the side of the road. The officers told him to stop and put his hands on top of his head (or what ever they deemed appropriate). The black turned around pointing something chrome at them as if it was a gun. They both fired, killing him at the scene. He was pointing a chrome cell phone at them. What a dumb ass. He deserves what he got, just like this one. NAACP raised hell for sometime, screaming racism. NAACP did the same thing in Jackson, MS.
I am not saying that all blacks are trash, but most around here are and I don't call them blacks!:) One thing they will do is stick up for each other, right or wrong!
BTW the government here is primarily black. The mayor gave himself and his cronies raises, while the starting police officers make less than $9 per hour! He was even going to lay some of them off because of the growing city debt......... :confused:
I don't think it will be too much longer before I move.....:frown:

HighRoller
05-01-2004, 09:28 AM
Well, the public inquisition found that the cause of death was "gunshot wound to the heart by a police officer" and the manner of death was "homicidal". Of course now we've got the scumbags in the media hailing it as a "guilty" verdict, although they have to contain their excitement to mention in passing that the ruling has "no legal standing". This whole thing was obviously designed to give the civil attorneys ammunition for the civil rights review. BUT that's not the biggest news to come out of this whole mess. I found out from another source that the guy who got shot was high on crack. He was so high, in fact, that the M.E. said he should have been comatose! So I'm sitting here with my jaw hanging open, wondering how we could have nonstop coverage of this ordeal for a month and never hear about that fact. I mean NOT ONCE! Not in the paper, on radio or on the TV did I EVER hear that this dirtbag was high on crack. Makes you wanna puke when the media is so biased that they will bury the facts.

HighRoller
05-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Some interesting information...
The medical examiner returned to the drugs found on Perez, and said that both urine and blood tests found cocaine and marijuana in the victim’s system. In fact, the levels were high enough to have possibly killed someone,
Again, and I can't emphasize this point enough; these facts were NEVER mentioned in the media at any time.
post-mortem pictures of James Jahar Perez, including a baggie of cocaine embedded in the victim’s mouth
What's even more disgusting is that the Police Department is obviously bowing down, hoping to appease the PC attack dogs in the city because they never came out to state the REAL FACTS and support the officer. Pretty sad when crackheads have more rights than the Police.

HighRoller
05-01-2004, 10:31 AM
Here's some highlights of witness testimony
Laea noticeably makes eye contact with the Perez family and their lawyer, Elden Rosenthal, several times during her testimony and seems unsure of the specifics, including who shot Perez and how she could see into the car when she was still inside the laundromat
It's a bitch when you can't remember what the lawyer told you to say, eh? She said both officers approached with guns drawn and shot him when he tried to take off his seat belt. Lying bitch.
Star witness number 2
Kevin Signalness admitted he lied. The last in-person witness called Thursday, Signalness, said he gave false statements to the news media in the week after the shooting, asserting that he had been in the area and heard the gunshots
Sounds like a credibile witness to me. Oh, by the way. If you lied then, how do we know you're telling the truth now?
Star witness number three
Marty Dennis, another witness, said he pulled into the parking lot seconds after the officers. And saw both police officers draw their weapons behind Perez’s car. He then said the cops approached the driver’s side door, where Dennis said he saw Perez sitting with his palms up and could hear him say something.
Sounds pretty credible to me.....until.......
Dennis knows Sery. Dennis had sued the police officer for beating him up. Dennis said he could not identify Sery by sight, but that the previous lawsuit had been settled for $5,000
Gee, he wouldn't have any personal hatred towards the officer....would he?
Seconds later, after a tussle, Dennis said he saw Sery crouch and then fire three shots. Dennis said he then saw Macomber administer the Taser’s darts and then continue to shock the victim. Dennis jumped out of the car with a tape recorder and hit record.
So he just HAPPENED to be at the scene and just coincidentally had a tape rcorder. Yeah, right. What are you doing following an officer around with a tape recorder, dude?
Finally, the most telling statement of the entire episode. This sums up why this sham proceeded as it did and why the rights of a Police officer are being ignored.
As we begin the second day of the public inquest into the shooting of James Jahar Perez, the picture of what took place has begun to be filled in for the public, but is still clearly unsatisfactory to the Perez family and minority advocacy groups
Ruin a man's life to satisfy the family of a scumbag drug dealer and doper who resisted arrest because he was high on crack and pot. Makes me sick to my stomach that they treat this piece of trash like he was a saint.

P P R
05-01-2004, 11:06 AM
Its our mayor!

SCLB41
05-01-2004, 11:26 AM
I've been on the job for seven, been riding motors for 3. Been down once so far after hitting a tire chalk at night on the 55 freeway. Just went to the CHP Officer Steiner's funeral. Has a three year old son left behind. What a waste man, some punk takes him down for no f$%^&*$ reason as he's walking out of court. It's a great job, but things sure have changed, even in the seven years I've been on.

Dr. Eagle
05-01-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by SCLB41
I've been on the job for seven, been riding motors for 3. Been down once so far after hitting a tire chalk at night on the 55 freeway. Just went to the CHP Officer Steiner's funeral. Has a three year old son left behind. What a waste man, some punk takes him down for no f$%^&*$ reason as he's walking out of court. It's a great job, but things sure have changed, even in the seven years I've been on.
Yeah, these punks and gang bangers.........Ahhhhhh!
That waste of a human life wastes someone elses just because! I hate scum like that. I feel horrible for Officer Steiner's family.
I wouldn't want to be a cop. I'd probably go Dirty Harry on someone and get fired and thrown into jail in the first year.........

P P R
05-01-2004, 11:47 AM
Its our mayor!

Dr. Eagle
05-01-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by P P R
Its our mayor!
Did you vote for him???????:confused:

Forkin' Crazy
05-01-2004, 04:03 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
I'd probably go Dirty Harry on someone and get fired and thrown into jail in the first year.........
That was on last night if anyone caught it.:)

Kilrtoy
05-01-2004, 04:09 PM
What a waste man, some punk takes him down for no f$%^&*$ reason as he's walking out of court.
Actuallly, the EME gave pomona a green light to do a pomona cop,
Jack ass was cicrling the court house looking for one, when the chippie came out , dressed in his blue jump suit(BDU's), dumb ass thought he was a pomona copper and did him in.

mtnsilverwolf
05-04-2004, 05:48 PM
Been in the profession for 12 years....Seems like they want ya when it goes to hell and scream bloody murder when you talk to them or defend yourself from those that think they don't have to cooperate or comply... Sorry to hear about the bad luck GoaUtl (Like the tag by the way...Anyone outta the profession might have to get a translation there...LOL)

Dr. Eagle
05-04-2004, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Forkin' Crazy
That was on last night if anyone caught it.:)
DOH!!!!!!!!
FO shizzle, I missed Dirty Harry......
Oh well, Man's got to know his limitations....

UtlGoa
05-04-2004, 06:10 PM
I look at it this way, things happen for a reason. I'm going to enjoy my retirement for alittle while then find a fraud investigation job. I really enjoy being home on the weekends now and being able to spend time with my wife and daughter.
Being shot in the head and surviving was a wake up call. Now the knee thing. I think someone has better plans for me.
I tried to register as Goautl, but it would not accept it so, Utlgoa was next.

slink
05-04-2004, 07:19 PM
UTLGOA, Great screen name. Been in the bizz 14 yrs myself. Like the old saying goes, people want to be protected and feel safe they just don't want to see how it's done. Good luck w/ your retirement, you earned it. Just remember dont let your 6th sense go away. Last week here in Corona we had a retired LAPD waiting for take out at claim jumper, In comes "Mr. 2 striker w/ a $60 a day smack habit" with a 22. Starts ordering people around, all the while LAPD is retreiving his trusty old friend 40. Well long story short, Mr 2 striker earned his 3rd along with a 40. cal hollow point in his chest (bout a 9 ring). Too bad the guy got a good DR and lived and now we'll be paying his med. bills and housing for the rest of his life. Maybe we'll 87 some time out at the river. let me know. Late

UtlGoa
05-04-2004, 07:38 PM
I have a bad habit of not carrying my duty weapon off duty. It's more of an inconvenience(sp). Don't get me wrong, if the Doctors would say I was good to go I'd be back pushing a unit in a heart beat, but if you saw the inside of my knee and how bone on bone looks you would understand.
I tried to talk the Dr. into letting me go back to work, but he said he would not and could not let me go back. This was after my fourth surgery on the same knee. Dr. told me if I went back I would be crippled in a year and would not beable to walk at all. I asked about the total knee replacement, and was told I'm not old enough. I guess they won't do a total knee unless your over 50? Anyone heard of this?
As for the 87, name it and I'm there.