What do you guys think of Bush's Resume?

[H2on22]

RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: I
was arrested in
Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving
under the influence of
alcohol;
I pled guilty, paid a fine and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
days. My driving record has been 'lost' and
is unavailable.
MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National
Guard and went AWOL. I
refused
to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use. By
joining
the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
avoid combat duty in
Vietnam.
COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale with a low C
average. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for the U.S. Congress and lost. I began
my
career in the oil business in Midland, Texas,
in 1975. I bought an oil
company, but could not find any oil in Texas.
The company went
bankrupt
shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought
the Texas Rangers baseball
team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
public money. With the
help of my father and our friends in the oil
industry (including Enron
CEO
Ken Lay) I was elected Governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: I
changed Texas pollution laws
to
favor power companies, making Texas the mosy
polluted state in the
Union.
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles
as the most smog-ridden
city
in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted the
Texas treasury to the
tune of
billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for most executions by any
Governor in American
history.
With the help of my brother the Governor of
Florida and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became
President after losing the
election by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I am the first
President in American
history
to enter office with a criminal record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a
continuing cost of a billion
dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively
bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I
shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for the most private
bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the most
foreclosures in a 12-month
period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop
in history of the U.S.
stock
market. In my first year in office, over a
million Americans last
their
jobs and this trend continues every month.
I am proud that the members of my cabinet are
the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest
millionaire", Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for the most campaign
fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder
for raising the most
corporate campaign donations.
My largest campaign contributor and one of my
best friends, Kenneth
Lay,
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy
in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court
during my election
decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and
Halliburton against
investigation
or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the
Monica
Lewinsky affair than the biggest corporate
rip-offs in U.S. history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in
U.S. history and refused
to
intervene when corruption involving the oil
industry was revealed. I
presided over the highest gasoline prices in
U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
government contracts. I appointed more
convicted criminals to my
administration than any President in U.S.
history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security,
the largest bureaucracy
in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than
any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
have the United Nations
remove
the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of
Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to
"prisoners of war" and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
refuse United Nations
election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for the
fewest number of press conferences of any
President since the advent of
television.
I set the record for most days on vacation in
any one year period.
After
taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
security
failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after
the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the
U.S. the most hated
country in
the world, the largest diplomatic failure in
world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to
simultaneously
protest me in public venues (1.5 million
people), shattering the
record for
any protest against a person in the history of
mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack on, and the military
occupation of, a sovereign
nation,
I did so against the will of the United
Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war
veterans and support a cut in
duty
benefits for active duty troops and their
families - in wartime,
In the state of the Union address I lied about
our reasons for
attacking
Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British
friends.
I am the first U.S. President in history to
have a majority of
Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat
to world peace and
security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster", a
WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to
bring Osama Bin Laden
[sic] to
justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my
tenure as governor of
Texas are
now in my father's (presidential) library,
sealed and unavailable for
public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my
insider trading and my
bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable
for public view.
All records of, or minutes from, meetings that
I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are
sealed in secrecy an
unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN
2004.

[Mandelon]

All the little arrow thingies make it hard to read.

[carbonmarine]

weak...........

[Ducatista]

I approve.....he gets my vote.:)

[AzDon]

***boat messageboard members that are Republican generally didn't have any sense of fairness planted and nurtured by their parents when they were growing up.
As a result, almost none of them will admit that anything on that resume is true and all will argue that nothing on your list is as serious or problematic as a middle-aged boss being offerred, and accepting a BJ from a young office staffer. While the current guy has plundered everything that has made this country "people friendly and fair and spent us past bankruptcy while doing it, the guy who did a good job for us is labeled a much worse scoundrel for accepting a Hummer.
One thing that didn't get on your list is the fact that Iran/Contra documents became declassified during this presidential term and fell to the discretion of this administration to either be made public or destroyed. Which do you think happened?

[H2on22]

Originally posted by carbonmarine
weak...........
Ingenuous response carbonmarine!
Well said AZDon. To ignore an unprecidented list like this would be ignorant? foolish? blind?..........you fill in the blank. Anyone who has to 'conceal' that many documents, have that many 'helpful' friends and have that many 'accomplishments' must be the perfect politician, don't you think? Yah, he is the 'people's choice' for sure. How much of OUR money are we going to let them steal before we get off our asses and vote for a change?

[THOR]

Conceal? Its not like he denies banging a fat slob named Monica. How's that for bad judgement.
You and AzDon are made for each other. Dipshits.

[uclahater]

Originally posted by H2on22
RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: I
was arrested in
Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving
under the influence of
alcohol;
I pled guilty, paid a fine and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
days. My driving record has been 'lost' and
is unavailable.
MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National
Guard and went AWOL. I
refused
to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use. By
joining
the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
avoid combat duty in
Vietnam.
COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale with a low C
average. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for the U.S. Congress and lost. I began
my
career in the oil business in Midland, Texas,
in 1975. I bought an oil
company, but could not find any oil in Texas.
The company went
bankrupt
shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought
the Texas Rangers baseball
team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
public money. With the
help of my father and our friends in the oil
industry (including Enron
CEO
Ken Lay) I was elected Governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: I
changed Texas pollution laws
to
favor power companies, making Texas the mosy
polluted state in the
Union.
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles
as the most smog-ridden
city
in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted the
Texas treasury to the
tune of
billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for most executions by any
Governor in American
history.
With the help of my brother the Governor of
Florida and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became
President after losing the
election by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I am the first
President in American
history
to enter office with a criminal record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a
continuing cost of a billion
dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively
bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I
shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for the most private
bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the most
foreclosures in a 12-month
period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop
in history of the U.S.
stock
market. In my first year in office, over a
million Americans last
their
jobs and this trend continues every month.
I am proud that the members of my cabinet are
the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest
millionaire", Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for the most campaign
fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder
for raising the most
corporate campaign donations.
My largest campaign contributor and one of my
best friends, Kenneth
Lay,
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy
in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court
during my election
decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and
Halliburton against
investigation
or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the
Monica
Lewinsky affair than the biggest corporate
rip-offs in U.S. history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in
U.S. history and refused
to
intervene when corruption involving the oil
industry was revealed. I
presided over the highest gasoline prices in
U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
government contracts. I appointed more
convicted criminals to my
administration than any President in U.S.
history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security,
the largest bureaucracy
in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than
any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
have the United Nations
remove
the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of
Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to
"prisoners of war" and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
refuse United Nations
election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for the
fewest number of press conferences of any
President since the advent of
television.
I set the record for most days on vacation in
any one year period.
After
taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
security
failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after
the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the
U.S. the most hated
country in
the world, the largest diplomatic failure in
world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to
simultaneously
protest me in public venues (1.5 million
people), shattering the
record for
any protest against a person in the history of
mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack on, and the military
occupation of, a sovereign
nation,
I did so against the will of the United
Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war
veterans and support a cut in
duty
benefits for active duty troops and their
families - in wartime,
In the state of the Union address I lied about
our reasons for
attacking
Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British
friends.
I am the first U.S. President in history to
have a majority of
Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat
to world peace and
security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster", a
WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to
bring Osama Bin Laden
[sic] to
justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my
tenure as governor of
Texas are
now in my father's (presidential) library,
sealed and unavailable for
public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my
insider trading and my
bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable
for public view.
All records of, or minutes from, meetings that
I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are
sealed in secrecy an
unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN
2004.
Another one to add to the "****TARD LIST":D

[vodkarocks]

that's a joke, If I wanted to take the time I could make up a similiar list for every president except Jimmy Carter because he didn't do anything.
It would be a toss up on which list would be the longest Clinton or Kennedy
The funniest though is your second post about stealing money
Why don't you go back and look up who started all the welfare programs and what they were supposed to cost including social security and what they really cost.

[H2on22]

Originally posted by THOR
Conceal? Its not like he denies banging a fat slob named Monica. How's that for bad judgement.
You and AzDon are made for each other. Dipshits.
Oh yeah, you are definetly right. Banging a fat slob is much worse than using Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure his success with the U.S. Supreme Court during his election decision.
DIPSHITS? Oh, yeah you also determine IQ by gut size right? Quite an educated conclusion, got your GED yet?

[Irishluck]

Originally posted by H2on22
RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: I
was arrested in
Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving
under the influence of
alcohol;
I pled guilty, paid a fine and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
days. My driving record has been 'lost' and
is unavailable.
MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National
Guard and went AWOL. I
refused
to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use. By
joining
the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
avoid combat duty in
Vietnam.
COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale with a low C
average. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for the U.S. Congress and lost. I began
my
career in the oil business in Midland, Texas,
in 1975. I bought an oil
company, but could not find any oil in Texas.
The company went
bankrupt
shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought
the Texas Rangers baseball
team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
public money. With the
help of my father and our friends in the oil
industry (including Enron
CEO
Ken Lay) I was elected Governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: I
changed Texas pollution laws
to
favor power companies, making Texas the mosy
polluted state in the
Union.
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles
as the most smog-ridden
city
in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted the
Texas treasury to the
tune of
billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for most executions by any
Governor in American
history.
With the help of my brother the Governor of
Florida and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became
President after losing the
election by over 500,000 votes.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I am the first
President in American
history
to enter office with a criminal record.
I invaded and occupied two countries at a
continuing cost of a billion
dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively
bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I
shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for the most private
bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
I set the all-time record for the most
foreclosures in a 12-month
period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop
in history of the U.S.
stock
market. In my first year in office, over a
million Americans last
their
jobs and this trend continues every month.
I am proud that the members of my cabinet are
the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest
millionaire", Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for the most campaign
fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder
for raising the most
corporate campaign donations.
My largest campaign contributor and one of my
best friends, Kenneth
Lay,
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy
in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court
during my election
decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and
Halliburton against
investigation
or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the
Monica
Lewinsky affair than the biggest corporate
rip-offs in U.S. history.
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in
U.S. history and refused
to
intervene when corruption involving the oil
industry was revealed. I
presided over the highest gasoline prices in
U.S. history.
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
government contracts. I appointed more
convicted criminals to my
administration than any President in U.S.
history.
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security,
the largest bureaucracy
in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than
any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
have the United Nations
remove
the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of
Law.
I refused to allow inspector's access to
"prisoners of war" and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
refuse United Nations
election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for the
fewest number of press conferences of any
President since the advent of
television.
I set the record for most days on vacation in
any one year period.
After
taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
security
failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after
the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the
U.S. the most hated
country in
the world, the largest diplomatic failure in
world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to
simultaneously
protest me in public venues (1.5 million
people), shattering the
record for
any protest against a person in the history of
mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack on, and the military
occupation of, a sovereign
nation,
I did so against the will of the United
Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war
veterans and support a cut in
duty
benefits for active duty troops and their
families - in wartime,
In the state of the Union address I lied about
our reasons for
attacking
Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British
friends.
I am the first U.S. President in history to
have a majority of
Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat
to world peace and
security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster", a
WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to
bring Osama Bin Laden
[sic] to
justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my
tenure as governor of
Texas are
now in my father's (presidential) library,
sealed and unavailable for
public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my
insider trading and my
bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable
for public view.
All records of, or minutes from, meetings that
I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are
sealed in secrecy an
unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN
2004. Wow did you get all this from Michael Moore

[THOR]

Originally posted by H2on22
Oh yeah, you are definetly right. Banging a fat slob is much worse than using Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure his success with the U.S. Supreme Court during his election decision.
DIPSHITS? Oh, yeah you also determine IQ by gut size right? Quite an educated conclusion, got your GED yet?
No GED, just a PhD.

[Dave C]

There you go again AZDON with your generalizations. For the record my entire family is a bunch of flaming liberals. I went to college with a bunch of flaming liberals.
But despite all that peer pressure I became a conservative of my own free will.....
sorry but another myth bites the dust.
some of that stuff might even be true who knows but most of it doesn't matter or we may support what went on for reasons you may or may not understand.
Originally posted by AzDon
***boat messageboard members that are Republican generally didn't have any sense of fairness planted and nurtured by their parents when they were growing up.
As a result, almost none of them will admit that anything on that resume is true and all will argue that nothing on your list is as serious or problematic as a middle-aged boss being offerred, and accepting a BJ from a young office staffer.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by THOR
No GED, just a PhD.
PhD = Piled High and Deeper...j/k LOL;)

[H2on22]

Originally posted by THOR
No GED, just a PhD.
Doctorate here. So maybe 6th grade name calling should be left to the 6th graders? How about comparing facts instead of deny, deny, deny which is all this administration has done in the last year?

[Brodie]

Originally posted by H2on22
Oh yeah, you are definetly right. Banging a fat slob is much worse than using Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure his success with the U.S. Supreme Court during his election decision.
DIPSHITS? Oh, yeah you also determine IQ by gut size right? Quite an educated conclusion, got your GED yet?
yer a homo. liberal terd.
doe s the green party approve of the gas guzzeling SUV and boat?
didnt think so
dang.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by Brodie
yer a homo. liberal terd.
What a great, intellectual reply.....Man, I have to remember that one for future use:rolleyes:

[Dave C]

speaking of concealment .... did they ever find those whitewater or rose law firm documents yet????...... those were under subpeona you know.....:D
besides if you followed along carefully, Bill was charged with perjury".

[H2on22]

Originally posted by Dave C
speaking of concealment .... did they ever find those whitewater or rose law firm documents yet????...... those were under subpeona you know.....:D
besides if you followed along carefully, Bill was charged with perjury".
PERJURY? For getting a BJ inthe Whitehouse...are you *uckin kidding me? Who the hell cares what he does with his slong. you mean to tell me that the American public really needs to know that Clinton left some stains on some porkers dress? Get real man. These are the same people that read the Enquirer and watch reality TV shows. Wake the *uck up!

[Blown 472]

What happens if we find out they were all lies about alot of stuff, does the back peddling begin?
Note: I am anti politian I have no love for either party.
Also, I never got an answer as to why we are not bombing the **** out of saudi arabia, also why did Bush go out of his way on sept 12th to get the bin ladin family out of the country after their son had some shit bags fly planes into the buildings?

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by AzDon
***boat messageboard members that are Republican generally didn't have any sense of fairness planted and nurtured by their parents when they were growing up.
As a result, almost none of them will admit that anything on that resume is true and all will argue that nothing on your list is as serious or problematic as a middle-aged boss being offerred, and accepting a BJ from a young office staffer. While the current guy has plundered everything that has made this country "people friendly and fair and spent us past bankruptcy while doing it, the guy who did a good job for us is labeled a much worse scoundrel for accepting a Hummer.
One thing that didn't get on your list is the fact that Iran/Contra documents became declassified during this presidential term and fell to the discretion of this administration to either be made public or destroyed. Which do you think happened?
Wow what a bigoted way to look at the majority of your fellow Hot boaters...
P.S. I'm not a Republican. I'm just a former Democratic party activist who has seen how wrong headed my former political leanings were. Does that mean my parents (both of which are retired shool teachers and one is still involved with reasearch at Cal Tech) never nurtured me, or gave me a sense of fairness? Or are you only venting your bigotry at registered republicans?

[THOR]

Originally posted by H2on22
PERJURY? For getting a BJ inthe Whitehouse...are you *uckin kidding me? Who the hell cares what he does with his slong. you mean to tell me that the American public really needs to know that Clinton left some stains on some porkers dress? Get real man. These are the same people that read the Enquirer and watch reality TV shows. Wake the *uck up!
Your views are so skewed it is shocking. Nobody blames him for getting a hummer in the oval office. What is bad is that he 1) got it from a fat bitch that is ugly as hell. That shows extremely poor judgement and decision making. 2) in order for him to get this hummer he had to mislead others in the oval office to think he was actually working. BTW, you and I pay his salary. Are you allowed to get hummers from fat chicks while working? I doubt it. This again, shows bad judgement and decision making.
His entire job was to make good, sound judgements and decisions. That is what Presidents do. That, my friend, is why getting a BJ in the Whitehouse is so bad. I care what he is doing because he should be working on the country's problems while at work and not getting a knob job from some pig.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by THOR
Conceal? Its not like he denies banging a fat slob named Monica. How's that for bad judgement.
You and AzDon are made for each other. Dipshits.
10-4 and roger on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MagicMtnDan]

To answer your unbalanced question: Bush's resume isn't as good as I would like but it's way better than John Kerry's.
By the way, your buddy Bill Clinton LIED UNDER OATH and committed perjury. There's no disputing that.

[Slider]

Right on THOR

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by THOR
Your views are so skewed it is shocking. Nobody blames him for getting a hummer in the oval office. What is bad is that he 1) got it from a fat bitch that is ugly as hell. That shows extremely poor judgement and decision making. 2) in order for him to get this hummer he had to mislead others in the oval office to think he was actually working. BTW, you and I pay his salary. Are you allowed to get hummers from fat chicks while working? I doubt it. This again, shows bad judgement and decision making.
His entire job was to make good, sound judgements and decisions. That is what Presidents do. That, my friend, is why getting a BJ in the Whitehouse is so bad. I care what he is doing because he should be working on the country's problems while at work and not getting a knob job from some pig.
Not to mention........ what would have happened if he had accidentally pushed the Launch button while being serviced........

[MagicMtnDan]

Top Ten Things I've Learned From The Clinton Years
10. That Hee-Haw crap's funny on TV but not in the White House
9. A White House internship provides hands-on experience
8. It's a good idea to replace the Oval Office carpets every once in a while
7. You can jog every day and still be a chunky tub
6. You can have sex without having sex, as long as while you're having sex you don't actually have sex
5. As long as the economy is good, Americans believe anything you tell them
4. Considering his taste in ladies, it's a good bet Bubba's been drunk since '92
3. Hillary looks really hot in those pantsuits
2. You can be Vice President in the most prosperous time in America, run against a dumb guy, get more votes and still lose
1. It's bent

[BrendellaJet]

you forgot to add this:
My big sack is saving your ass right now. If it weren't for me, this country would be licking Sadams sphincter right now.

[HighRoller]

H2on22, for having a doctorate your ignorance astounds me. So let's make a rule here. We'll only deal with FACTS when talking about Bush and Clinton, okay? First of all, you have a doctorate yet you find no problem with the statement about Bush "winning the White House despite losing by 500,000 votes". DUH! We don't elect Presidents by the popular vote, and never have. Ever heard of the electoral college? Probably not. Second, you spew the typical line about Bush and the supreme court during the election of 2000. Unfortunately you neglected to tell fellow ***boaters that AL GORE started the supreme court battle over the election. Now, as to Enron, you talk about them like they are Bush's buddy. Did you know that all of Enron's dirty business occurred between 1993 and 2000? We all know who was Prez back then. Ken Lay made large donations to Bill Clinton as well so you can stop all that silliness. Again, documented facts. Bill Clinton was not impeached because he got a BJ, he was impeached for lying under oath, AKA perjury. It doesn't matter what he lied about, and if he'd lie about oral sex to save his ass what else do you think he covered up? This "resume" is full of factual statements like "sweetheart deal", what a joke. How could Bush spend a surplus that never existed, by the way? Just because Bill Clinton took 76 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund to balance the annual budget does not mean we had a surplus! We haven't had a surplus since who knows when because of Congress' spending habits. And Bankruptcies? You're actually going to try and blame that on Bush? Do you do any research on financial stats? I do. Bankruptcy has risen 13% or more on avaerage EVERY YEAR since 1980. You know why? Because we as a country have 8.3 TRILLION in consumer debt, 113% of our disposable income on average. Bankruptcy is caused by bad personal spending habits, not the President no matter what his political persuasion. So Bush was the first to attack a sovereign country pre-emptively? Three words for ya:Bill Clinton, Serbia. Enough said. 9-11 was Bush's fault? Bill Clinton was given no less than three opportunities by the CIA and the government of Sudan to apprehend Osama. He refused each time. I guess it's time to bust out on Kerry and Clinton just for fun. I hope you enjoyed starting this crap becausse it's time that the REAL facts get out. Not just some partisan rhetoric from a Bush hater.

[THOR]

High Roller, I think you stated one thing wrong. H2 doesnt have the PhD, I do. Seriously.
You are correct on all other accounts though. The Bush haters are just that, haters. Zero facts and usually, the facts are either mis-quoted or distorted beyond belief. Good post. ;)

[H2on22]

Originally posted by THOR
Your views are so skewed it is shocking. Nobody blames him for getting a hummer in the oval office. What is bad is that he 1) got it from a fat bitch that is ugly as hell. That shows extremely poor judgement and decision making. 2) in order for him to get this hummer he had to mislead others in the oval office to think he was actually working. BTW, you and I pay his salary. Are you allowed to get hummers from fat chicks while working? I doubt it. This again, shows bad judgement and decision making.
His entire job was to make good, sound judgements and decisions. That is what Presidents do. That, my friend, is why getting a BJ in the Whitehouse is so bad. I care what he is doing because he should be working on the country's problems while at work and not getting a knob job from some pig.
Shocking? Right. Clinton LIVED in the Whitehouse, it was his home well as his office so let's skip the BS about the hummer, it's not even worth saying another word about.
But "good sound decisions"? are you listening to yourself? I am not a political fan, but when Bush lies to the world to get a war we did not want, send our boys (almost my brother as well) and asks us to pay for it (how much now?) you think that is "good, sound decision making" Are you freaking nuts or do you still believe Alqueda and Saddam are the same? Does it even scathe you that we were first looking for WMD's and now we are "liberating" the Iraqi's? *uck the Iraqi's. Get our boys home safe and sound. But it's too late now...what did Powell say to Bush about Iraq 'you break it, you buy it'

[HavasuDreamin']

As soon as the facts come out, the liberals vanish like a fa*t in the wind. :D

[HavasuDreamin']

So it is a sound decision to get a hummer (at home) from some fat biatch while your wife is home? :confused:

[THOR]

Originally posted by H2on22
Shocking? Right. Clinton LIVED in the Whitehouse, it was his home well as his office so let's skip the BS about the hummer, it's not even worth saying another word about.
But "good sound decisions"? are you listening to yourself? I am not a political fan, but when Bush lies to the world to get a war we did not want, send our boys (almost my brother as well) and asks us to pay for it (how much now?) you think that is "good, sound decision making" Are you freaking nuts or do you still believe Alqueda and Saddam are the same? Does it even scathe you that we were first looking for WMD's and now we are "liberating" the Iraqi's? *uck the Iraqi's. Get our boys home safe and sound. But it's too late now...what did Powell say to Bush about Iraq 'you break it, you buy it'
You are still under the influence of something. Is there any business that goes on in the White House or is it just a residence? Keep denying the truth and chasing your tail like Clinton did. Either way, you are misguided and he is still a liar to the country. He lied under deposition which is agains the LAW. Dont forget it. BTW, people actually work at the White House. It isnt a hotel or a simple house. Get it straight.

[THOR]

Originally posted by HavasuDreamin'
So it is a sound decision to get a hummer (at home) from some fat biatch while your wife is home? :confused:
That is perfectly fine HD, you live there. Right? Duhhhh, I live here so I can lie my ass off and cheat on my wife. Duhhhh. It's my house. :rolleyes:

[summerlove]

Originally posted by HighRoller
Not just some partisan rhetoric from a Bush hater.
Ya all know I'm not a "W" lover, but there's enough blame to go around.
In spite of the "affair" with Monica, Bill was still reelected by a wide margin....
Yes, "W" beat Al Bore, I could have done that - it didn't take a rocket scientist to do that.
While I am a dem, I don't support everything the "party" platform recommends, and I support some of the republican ideas.
I hate the stupid a$$ name calling in here. can we all act our ages. besides, yer all homo. liberal terds. ! (I wanted to use that sometime in here...)
;)

[BrendellaJet]

Originally posted by H2on22
Shocking? Right. Clinton LIVED in the Whitehouse, it was his home well as his office so let's skip the BS about the hummer, it's not even worth saying another word about.
But "good sound decisions"? are you listening to yourself? I am not a political fan, but when Bush lies to the world to get a war we did not want, send our boys (almost my brother as well) and asks us to pay for it (how much now?) you think that is "good, sound decision making" Are you freaking nuts or do you still believe Alqueda and Saddam are the same? Does it even scathe you that we were first looking for WMD's and now we are "liberating" the Iraqi's? *uck the Iraqi's. Get our boys home safe and sound. But it's too late now...what did Powell say to Bush about Iraq 'you break it, you buy it'
Bush lied? he was given misinformation at most-hardly a crime. I still say they'll find what they are looking for in that sandbox. No, I dont believe Saddam and Alqueda are the same, they both suck, we are better off having Saddam out of power. He's used WMD's in the past, he should have been dealt with back then. I agree, get our boys back safe and sound, but not until the job is done. We back out now and we and they are worse off than when Saddam was in power.

[THOR]

Is it terd or turd? I get those confused. ;)

[summerlove]

By the way,
Where's Osama????

[Ducatista]

Hey HighRoller........................just noticed you're sig..................................I LIKE IT! :cool:

[H2on22]

Originally posted by HighRoller
H2on22, for having a doctorate your ignorance astounds me. So let's make a rule here. We'll only deal with FACTS when talking about Bush and Clinton, okay? First of all, you have a doctorate yet you find no problem with the statement about Bush "winning the White House despite losing by 500,000 votes". DUH! We don't elect Presidents by the popular vote, and never have. Ever heard of the electoral college? Probably not. Second, you spew the typical line about Bush and the supreme court during the election of 2000. Unfortunately you neglected to tell fellow ***boaters that AL GORE started the supreme court battle over the election. Now, as to Enron, you talk about them like they are Bush's buddy. Did you know that all of Enron's dirty business occurred between 1993 and 2000? We all know who was Prez back then. Ken Lay made large donations to Bill Clinton as well so you can stop all that silliness. Again, documented facts. Bill Clinton was not impeached because he got a BJ, he was impeached for lying under oath, AKA perjury. It doesn't matter what he lied about, and if he'd lie about oral sex to save his ass what else do you think he covered up? This "resume" is full of factual statements like "sweetheart deal", what a joke. How could Bush spend a surplus that never existed, by the way? Just because Bill Clinton took 76 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund to balance the annual budget does not mean we had a surplus! We haven't had a surplus since who knows when because of Congress' spending habits. And Bankruptcies? You're actually going to try and blame that on Bush? Do you do any research on financial stats? I do. Bankruptcy has risen 13% or more on avaerage EVERY YEAR since 1980. You know why? Because we as a country have 8.3 TRILLION in consumer debt, 113% of our disposable income on average. Bankruptcy is caused by bad personal spending habits, not the President no matter what his political persuasion. So Bush was the first to attack a sovereign country pre-emptively? Three words for ya:Bill Clinton, Serbia. Enough said. 9-11 was Bush's fault? Bill Clinton was given no less than three opportunities by the CIA and the government of Sudan to apprehend Osama. He refused each time. I guess it's time to bust out on Kerry and Clinton just for fun. I hope you enjoyed starting this crap becausse it's time that the REAL facts get out. Not just some partisan rhetoric from a Bush hater.
I do not take credit for writing that info or for it's accuracy. It was sent to me and I thought it would be interesting to see the rebutals I would get. I do aggree with most of the info though. And yes I do know how the electoral college works.
One question for you...If you were to give this president a grade what would it be? Be honest and evaluate all that has occurred and what the state of the Union is at this point. I give it a C- at best.

[summerlove]

Originally posted by Brodie
yer a homo. liberal terd.
Thanks for asking, I was just quoting a conservative idiot that could not spell TURD!

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by HighRoller
H2on22, for having a doctorate your ignorance astounds me. So let's make a rule here. We'll only deal with FACTS when talking about Bush and Clinton, okay? First of all, you have a doctorate yet you find no problem with the statement about Bush "winning the White House despite losing by 500,000 votes". DUH! We don't elect Presidents by the popular vote, and never have. Ever heard of the electoral college? Probably not. Second, you spew the typical line about Bush and the supreme court during the election of 2000. Unfortunately you neglected to tell fellow ***boaters that AL GORE started the supreme court battle over the election. Now, as to Enron, you talk about them like they are Bush's buddy. Did you know that all of Enron's dirty business occurred between 1993 and 2000? We all know who was Prez back then. Ken Lay made large donations to Bill Clinton as well so you can stop all that silliness. Again, documented facts. Bill Clinton was not impeached because he got a BJ, he was impeached for lying under oath, AKA perjury. It doesn't matter what he lied about, and if he'd lie about oral sex to save his ass what else do you think he covered up? This "resume" is full of factual statements like "sweetheart deal", what a joke. How could Bush spend a surplus that never existed, by the way? Just because Bill Clinton took 76 billion dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund to balance the annual budget does not mean we had a surplus! We haven't had a surplus since who knows when because of Congress' spending habits. And Bankruptcies? You're actually going to try and blame that on Bush? Do you do any research on financial stats? I do. Bankruptcy has risen 13% or more on avaerage EVERY YEAR since 1980. You know why? Because we as a country have 8.3 TRILLION in consumer debt, 113% of our disposable income on average. Bankruptcy is caused by bad personal spending habits, not the President no matter what his political persuasion. So Bush was the first to attack a sovereign country pre-emptively? Three words for ya:Bill Clinton, Serbia. Enough said. 9-11 was Bush's fault? Bill Clinton was given no less than three opportunities by the CIA and the government of Sudan to apprehend Osama. He refused each time. I guess it's time to bust out on Kerry and Clinton just for fun. I hope you enjoyed starting this crap becausse it's time that the REAL facts get out. Not just some partisan rhetoric from a Bush hater.
This responce is great and worth repeating.

[THOR]

H2, way to be original. Try to post something you actual know about next time and not what somebody sent you. That actually got you some respect back. Maybe. :D

[H2on22]

Originally posted by THOR
You are still under the influence of something. Is there any business that goes on in the White House or is it just a residence? Keep denying the truth and chasing your tail like Clinton did. Either way, you are misguided and he is still a liar to the country. He lied under deposition which is agains the LAW. Dont forget it. BTW, people actually work at the White House. It isnt a hotel or a simple house. Get it straight.
CAN YOU LET THE BJ GO? just let it go man. you are talking about a BJ, not the number of soldiers killed in Iraq, the national debt, outsourcing, or jobs. You pick out that one lie out of all the other one's and capitalize on it. Clinton did alot worse things than a job from a fatty...use the other info, just don't jump on the Soap Opera bandwagon like everyone else did.
I think are more serious things to discuss today than oral sex.
Lets make it clear. I don't need to be a Clinton fan (or am I one) to bash on bush, anyone can do it...it's just too damn easy. Too much to question.

[MagicMtnDan]

Hey Hot Wheels (H2on22), I'm just guessing here that you didn't have anybody in the Trade Center towers or the Pentagon or on any of the hijacked airplanes on 9/11.
You and all the other left-wing wackos have already forgotten that this country was attacked on our soil for the first time in 60 years. And more people died on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor. And the majority of the people that died that day were civilians.
You can blame Bush all you want for no WMDs but your buddy Bill Clinton had access to the same intelligence and he thought Saddam had WMDs too.
You liberals seem to have very short-term memories. Now that it's been a few years since 9/11 you're all ready to abandon our security (do you realize that the Iraq war just happens to be a scumbag magnet drawing every terrorist enemy of the USA over there to try and kill our soliders - your fellow citizens?!) and get back with life.
The ultimate problem is that the liberals won't become dedicated to the extinction of our enemies until many thousands more Americans die on our soil. Why do you insist on allowing that to happen before you get fully engaged in supporting the war for our survival? What does it take for you focus on our real enemy instead of bashing Republicans?

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by summerlove
Ya all know I'm not a "W" lover, but there's enough blame to go around.
In spite of the "affair" with Monica, Bill was still reelected by a wide margin....
Yes, "W" beat Al Bore, I could have done that - it didn't take a rocket scientist to do that.
While I am a dem, I don't support everything the "party" platform recommends, and I support some of the republican ideas.
I hate the stupid a$$ name calling in here. can we all act our ages. besides, yer all homo. liberal terds. ! (I wanted to use that sometime in here...)
;)
What you have said above is true enough. I also dislike the stupid name calling.
However, I myself labled AzDon's statment re the upbringing of republican ***boaters as Bigoted and as an example of his bigotry and I stand by it. It was a horribly bigoted statement and there is just no other way to honestly discribe it.

[vodkarocks]

It's hard to believe how much grief Bush was given for not preventing 9-11, and those same people complain because he took Saddam out and is trying to prevent future attacks.

[H2on22]

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
Hey Hot Wheels (H2on22), I'm just guessing here that you didn't have anybody in the Trade Center towers or the Pentagon or on any of the hijacked airplanes on 9/11.
You and all the other left-wing wackos have already forgotten that this country was attacked on our soil for the first time in 60 years. And more people died on 9/11 than at Pearl Harbor. And the majority of the people that died that day were civilians.
You can blame Bush all you want for no WMDs but your buddy Bill Clinton had access to the same intelligence and he thought Saddam had WMDs too.
You liberals seem to have very short-term memories. Now that it's been a few years since 9/11 you're all ready to abandon our security (do you realize that the Iraq war just happens to be a scumbag magnet drawing every terrorist enemy of the USA over there to try and kill our soliders - your fellow citizens?!) and get back with life.
The ultimate problem is that the liberals won't become dedicated to the extinction of our enemies until many thousands more Americans die on our soil. Why do you insist on allowing that to happen before you get fully engaged in supporting the war for our survival? What does it take for you focus on our real enemy instead of bashing Republicans?
My brother is 20 miles from the DMZ in South Korea and he will be the first to go if any shit goes down over there, so don't give me that. Does everyone in this worl have to fall into the dem-reb or liberal-conserv camps? what happened to just believing in the right things? screw the parties. we are follwing them to our demise. this country is the most polarized it has ever been since Vietnam...that should say something.
And you think be invading Iraq we have accomplished safety for our citizens? Yes, the world is a better place w/out Saddam, but what price are we the people paying for it? He was not responsible for 911. let's get the bastards that were. You mean thats the only reason we are in Iraq right now, because of 911? You mean we don't want to liberate the Iraqi's? wow, that's not what Bush say's on TV.

[Dave C]

did I studder? .... Yes PERJURY is a crime....... lying under oath. Don't you remember the $90,000 fine that Clinton paid to the court? I'm not making this up.
BTW you are in fact correct perjury has nothing to do with his slong.
Originally posted by H2on22
PERJURY? For getting a BJ inthe Whitehouse...are you *uckin kidding me? Who the hell cares what he does with his slong. you mean to tell me that the American public really needs to know that Clinton left some stains on some porkers dress? Get real man. These are the same people that read the Enquirer and watch reality TV shows. Wake the *uck up!

[Slider]

Just look at what they did to that poor kid.We must win at all cost now,or it will be here soon

[Havasu_Dreamin]

Originally posted by AzDon
***boat messageboard members that are Republican generally didn't have any sense of fairness planted and nurtured by their parents when they were growing up.
You know what Don, question me on my politics and that is fine, question my parents on how they raised me and basically slap them in the face **** YOU!

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by H2on22
Ingenuous response carbonmarine!
Well said AZDon. To ignore an unprecidented list like this would be ignorant? foolish? blind?..........you fill in the blank. Anyone who has to 'conceal' that many documents, have that many 'helpful' friends and have that many 'accomplishments' must be the perfect politician, don't you think? Yah, he is the 'people's choice' for sure. How much of OUR money are we going to let them steal before we get off our asses and vote for a change?
You have an advanced degree and you think that a statement that begins with a bigoted psudo-psycological negative generalizatin about the majority of his fellow ***boaters is "well said"?

[summerlove]

Originally posted by vodkarocks
It's hard to believe how much grief Bush was given for not preventing 9-11, and those same people complain because he took Saddam out and is trying to prevent future attacks.
I don't blame him for 9/11, but he (and I agree Clinton) maybe could have done something to help prevent it - I hold nothing against him on that one however.
But, here are a number of documented facts!
1. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]
2. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories…for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]
...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]
3. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]
4. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]
...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important." [President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]
5. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to…establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]
6. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]
7. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]
8. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]
9. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]
...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]
10. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]
11. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]
12. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]
...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]
13. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]
...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]
14. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]
15. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]
...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold singing ceremony, 03/27/02]
oh well, liberal media at it again....

[HighRoller]

One question for you...If you were to give this president a grade what would it be? Be honest and evaluate all that has occurred and what the state of the Union is at this point. I give it a C- at best
Good question H2. Again, I'll answer with factual information.
2002:
Dow Jones up 21%
Nasdaq up 43%
S&P500 up 39%
Economy growing at 4.3% as of first quarter 2003.
GDP at highest point in 19 years.
Interest rates at 46 year low.
In 2002, there were 194 terror attacks worldwide. This is the lowest number since 1969 and represents a 45% decline since the 9-11 attacks.
Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Lowe's costco and several other major retailers are experiencing double digit quarterly sales increses.
Automobile sales are at record highs, although part of that is due to financing deals.
Saddam Hussein behind bars.
As far as Iraq, I'm conflicted. It all started out well but now that things have gotten sticky I think Bush is being swayed by the media's nonstop message that the world "hates us". He needs to sack up and do whatever it takes to win this war in convincing fashion. Those dirtbags who killed Nick Berg, and all their ilk are watching us very carefully for our response to their actions. We need to send them a message. Go to all the places where their hiding, give civilians 72-hours notice to leave, and then flatten the city and kill the bad guys. Yes, the media will have an aneurysm but too bad. Let them scream until their heads explode. All that matters is that we'll be safer, Bush will get re-elected in a landslide and after he does he can walk into the White House newsroom, pull down his pants, bend over and make them line up to kiss his ass!!!!!

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

Originally posted by H2on22
RESUME
GEORGE W. BUSH
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington DC 20520
EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE: Law Enforcement: I
was arrested in
Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for driving
under the influence of
alcohol;
I pled guilty, paid a fine and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
days.
Someone else plead innocent. He didn't inhale
My driving record has been 'lost' and
is unavailable.
MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National
Guard and went AWOL.
an unsubstantiated accusation
I
refused
to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use. By
joining
the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
avoid combat duty in
Vietnam.
not cool, I admit, when you're sending other peoples kids to war
COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale with a low C
average. I was a cheerleader.
I'm sorry, but what's wrong with being a cheerleader exactly? Do you think men's and women's roles are so rigid that men can't be cheerleaders? Can men also not cook, iron or watch their own children?
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for the U.S. Congress and lost. I began
my
career in the oil business in Midland, Texas,
in 1975. I bought an oil
company, but could not find any oil in Texas.
The company went
bankrupt
shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought
the Texas Rangers baseball
team in a sweetheart deal that took land using
public money. With the
help of my father and our friends in the oil
industry (including Enron
CEO
Ken Lay) I was elected Governor of Texas.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS: I
changed Texas pollution laws
to
favor power companies, making Texas the mosy
polluted state in the
Union.
During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles
as the most smog-ridden
city
in America.
actually, everything I've read claims that Denver is the smoggiest city in the United States; Mexico City is the smoggiest city in America
I cut taxes and bankrupted the
Texas treasury to the
tune of
billions in borrowed money.
I set the record for most executions by any
Governor in American
history.
With the help of my brother the Governor of
Florida and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became
President after losing the
election by over 500,000 votes.
You forgot that he restored the rights of millions of Texans to carry firearms. Taken away by the previous democrat governor Ann Richards.
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I am the first
President in American
history
to enter office with a criminal record.
Clinton got a criminal record WHILE in office and was impeached for it
I invaded and occupied two countries at a
continuing cost of a billion
dollars per week.
I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively
bankrupted the U.S. Treasury.
I
shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.
I set an economic record for the most private
bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.
That's because there were no bankruptcy protection laws in 1929
I set the all-time record for the most
foreclosures in a 12-month
period.
I set the all-time record for the biggest drop
in history of the U.S.
stock
market.
Ummm, maybe in points, but not in percentages. In 1929, it fell 20% on Oct 24, 13.5% on Oct 28 and 11.5% on Oct 29 and totalled a 39.6% drop in less than 2 months and 89% drop by July of 1930. Bear markets happen. Sorry, try again.
In my first year in office, over a
million Americans last
their
jobs and this trend continues every month.
??? I just read last week that the number of jobs increased by over 2 percent.
I am proud that the members of my cabinet are
the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest
millionaire", Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.
I set the record for the most campaign
fund-raising trips by a U.S.
President.
I am the all-time U.S. and world record holder
for raising the most
corporate campaign donations.
My largest campaign contributor and one of my
best friends, Kenneth
Lay,
presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy
in U.S. history, Enron.
My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court
during my election
decision.
I have protected my friends at Enron and
Halliburton against
investigation
or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the
Monica
Lewinsky affair than the biggest corporate
rip-offs in U.S. history.
can't argue with that
I presided over the biggest energy crisis in
U.S. history and refused
to
intervene when corruption involving the oil
industry was revealed. I
presided over the highest gasoline prices in
U.S. history.
I guess the author missed the memo that gas prices were proportionatly higher both during the Great Depression and the Oil Embargo of the 70s
I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
government contracts. I appointed more
convicted criminals to my
administration than any President in U.S.
history.
??? evidence to this? I've never heard of this, but I did see an interesting thing regarding criminal records of Congress
I created the Ministry of Homeland Security,
the largest bureaucracy
in the
history of the United States government.
I've broken more international treaties than
any President in U.S.
history.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
have the United Nations
remove
the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission.
I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of
Law.
GOOD!!!! Screw the UN!
I refused to allow inspector's access to
"prisoners of war" and thereby
have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
refuse United Nations
election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
I set the record for the
fewest number of press conferences of any
President since the advent of
television.
I set the record for most days on vacation in
any one year period.
the president is never really on vacation. It's just a matter of his location while he's working.
After
taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
security
failure in U.S. history.
I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after
the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the
U.S. the most hated
country in
the world, the largest diplomatic failure in
world history.
I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to
simultaneously
protest me in public venues (1.5 million
people), shattering the
record for
any protest against a person in the history of
mankind.
I am the first President in U.S. history to
order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack on, and the military
occupation of, a sovereign
nation,
Germany NEVER attacked us and we attacked and invaded them twice
I did so against the will of the United
Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.
I have cut health care benefits for war
veterans and support a cut in
duty
benefits for active duty troops and their
families - in wartime,
In the state of the Union address I lied about
our reasons for
attacking
Iraq and then blamed the lies on our British
friends.
I am the first U.S. President in history to
have a majority of
Europeans
(71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat
to world peace and
security.
I am supporting development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster", a
WMD.
I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to
bring Osama Bin Laden
[sic] to
justice.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my
tenure as governor of
Texas are
now in my father's (presidential) library,
sealed and unavailable for
public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my
insider trading and my
bankrupt
companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable
for public view.
All records of, or minutes from, meetings that
I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are
sealed in secrecy an
unavailable for public review.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN
2004.
I don't have time to adress the rest, but you can see there are a few holes in your cute little note that need to be addressed. None of the politicians are angels, they're all crooks, but get your facts straight before publishing them.:D

[Ultra5150]

Originally posted by H2on22
[B]My brother is 20 miles from the DMZ in South Korea and he will be the first to go if any shit goes down over there, so don't give me that.
Come on Dude!! I was stationed in South Korea (2nd ID), don't try and make it sound like your Bro is living in a foxhole on the DMZ eating c-rations with a with a North Korean looking at him through his rifle sights. He is is probably in the ville drinking soju and OB beer with a hot little Korean girl named Miss Kim.

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by Havasu_Dreamin
You know what Don, question me on my politics and that is fine, question my parents on how they raised me and basically slap them in the face **** YOU!
It looks like ol Don really showed us all his a$$ this time.:idea:

[twistedpair]

Nice list. Where did you find that, on the internet? I believe everything posted on the internet!
Nice H2, too bad the economy is so screwed, maybe you could afford two of them.:rolleyes:
Bush is NOT the greatest thing since sliced bread, but He's far better that the two contemptable patsies the Dems have trotted out to face him.
Here's a new flash for you. Ed Koch, probably the most liberal Mayor NYC ever had, is NOT backing John Kerry for President, he is however backing GW. What does that say about your party's saviour?

[AzDon]

Originally posted by THOR
Is it terd or turd? I get those confused. ;)
Anybody with a PHD should know this stuff. Ima tard and I know it's a t*rd!!

[HighRoller]

The economy's bad???Damn, I just tried to get a parking spot at the mall last weekend and had to walk a mile! I guess all the cars were left there when broke people ran out of gas!!
Now, as to AZDon's assertions, well I guess you want to play ball that way so here goes. My parents are Republicans, and I believe they raised me well. I was never given anything other than what I EARNED! I paid for my first car, and the gas and insurance that it required. I started my first business at 10 years old mowing half the lawns in the neighborhood. Is that the lack of fairness you alluded to in your post? My dad earned a middle class/ upper middle class wage for most his life. Currently my parents live on 21 acres on the Central Coast of California. They have a travel trailer, new boat, new truck, horse ranch and more than enough money to live on until they pass away. I've enjoyed watching them build their American Dream piece by piece and know that they EARNED every bit of it. Now let's look at you. You accuse Republicans of being unrealistic raising their children, but look at yourself. Your kids no doubt think the Government is going to coddle them and that they only have to work if they want until Social Security rescues them. You're working in a dead-end job for a wage that's insulting, and probably have a couple paychecks worth or less in the bank. I know. I used to drive as well and when you divide your pay by your hours away from home and subtract food you might as well be working at McDonald's! I can tell you one thing, Don. I like mine and my sister's chances a hell of a lot better than your kids chances of making dreams come true. It seems to me you're merely "existing", as most liberals do, instead of excelling like most Republicans do. Did you ever stop and wonder why everyone calls the Republican Party the "Party of the Rich"? Because rich people are smart. They don't play the lottery and they don't drive trucks and they don't teach their kids to depend on others. That's what I call fairness. And before you spout off about how "rich people" are all fat cats who inherited money from their granddaddy, I'll leave you with this. The average millionaire today makes an average salary of 80K a year over his lifetime. And out of those millionaires, 88% are first generation, self-made millionaires. The only ones who were handed their money are people like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, both liberal Democrats who demonize "the rich".

[Dribble]

Originally posted by AzDon
***boat messageboard members that are Republican generally didn't have any sense of fairness planted and nurtured by their parents when they were growing up.
My parents were liberal Democrats. Supported welfare, higher taxes, socialized medicine, anti gun, anti war, the whole works.
They weren't dumb they were just a little mixed up.

[AzDon]

I was referring to "fairness" in the analysis of a presidential candidate's qualifications.
As far as upbringing, I too mowed neighbor's lawns and delivered newspapers. Where I grew up (N Arcadia, Ca) I was the ONLY kid that didn't get an allowance and I have never gotten anything that I haven't worked too damn long and hard to pay for myself! I know y'all would find this MUCH easier if I fit the stereotype that makes you the most comfortable. I'm not, and have never stated that I support anybody getting something for nothing, but I think some of you guys would "sing the blues" if all of the underpaid folks in this country suddenly disappeared along with their "replacement pool".
The fact is that there is an "exploited class" that does all the real work and heavy lifting in this country and it is a growing group, especially if you add the unemployed to it's ranks.
If public opinion and policymaking doesn't address the benefits of seeing that most everybody has the opportunity to do well, I believe that open class warfare will break out in my lifetime!

[twistedpair]

If you can't see that most everybody DOES HAVE the opportunity to do well, I feel sorry for you. You can't legislate and force motivation on people who don't want it. You yourself have stated that you could be better off if you moved to a more populated area, you choose not to and are comfortable with your circumstance. You wish you were better off, but are unwilling to make the sacrifices it takes to achieve it.
Many people less 'fortunate' than you are in the same boat. They wish for success, but don't wish to work towards that end, and are content with their circumstance.
You can't shove prosperity down the throats of people who don't want it and are ill-prepared to use it.
This country provides opportunity for all.
You must provide your own motivation.

[Dribble]

Originally posted by AzDon
The fact is that there is an "exploited class" that does all the real work and heavy lifting in this country and it is a growing group, especially if you add the unemployed to it's ranks.
I am aware of the underpaid exploited working class and the unemployed. I've been there. Only I called it paying my dues. I know what it's like to be poor and I could do it again. And if I do I'll work my way back up just like before.
The fact is that most people that are there put themselves there and keep themselves there. The democrats have convinced them that they're not worth a shit and only the government can help them. By taxing the supposed rich and after taking their share of the pie, redistributing the wealth. They should just come to my house and I'll pass it out directly to them. That way we can cut out the middle man.

[Debbolas]

When all is said and done, I have to go with actions.
President Bush's actions speak volumns to me.....Can you imagine if someone els was president after 9-11? He was so strong and took imediate action agianst the threat to our country. All those folks second guessing him monday morning quarterbacking......PLEASE...they all forget....NO ONE ever thought anyone would ever attack our country.
Please remember the awful things happening in Iraq right now are not representative of people as a whole. Most people in the army do not torture prisoners, and most muslims do not chop the heads off of people.
There is a threat in that country that cannot be denied. We cannot remove the criminal element (Saddam Hussien) and then just walk away. We must finish the job we have started.
God Bless America..........

[Boozer]

Originally posted by H2on22
My brother is 20 miles from the DMZ in South Korea and he will be the first to go if any shit goes down over there, so don't give me that.
I try to stay neutral on threads like this but when people make statements like this it pisses me off to no end.
You're brother made the choice to enlist in the service. He had the choice and he made it. You should be proud of your brother for making the choice to enlist in the service and protect the freedom that you and I enjoy everyday. If it weren't for people like your brother and the men and women he serves with you and I wouldn't have the freedom and protection we need to enjoy our daily lives.
When you're brother made the choice to sign on the dotted line he made it under his own will and noone else's. Along with that line comes a responsibilty and that responsibily can and in some cases will result in you making the ulimate sacrifice.
I don't want to hear the bullshit about "He did it for the education," either. Because guess what? Education isn't free it costs money and time and in the case of a soldier that education could cost him his life. Any person who signs up for the service knows EXACTLY what they are signing. If they don't know then they should have asked more questions first and hopefully the education they get during their service will teach them to ask questions later in life.

[Boozer]

Originally posted by summerlove
I don't blame him for 9/11, but he (and I agree Clinton) maybe could have done something to help prevent it - I hold nothing against him on that one however.
But, here are a number of documented facts!
1. Department of Homeland Security
BUSH OPPOSES THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY..."So, creating a Cabinet office doesn't solve the problem. You still will have agencies within the federal government that have to be coordinated. So the answer is that creating a Cabinet post doesn't solve anything." [White House spokesman Ari Fleischer, 3/19/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY "So tonight, I ask the Congress to join me in creating a single, permanent department with an overriding and urgent mission: securing the homeland of America and protecting the American people." [President Bush, Address to the Nation, 6/6/02]
2. Weapons of Mass Destruction
BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories…for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them." [President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03]
...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons. And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out." [President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]
3. Free Trade
BUSH SUPPORTS FREE TRADE... "I believe strongly that if we promote trade, and when we promote trade, it will help workers on both sides of this issue." [President Bush in Peru, 3/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS RESTRICTIONS ON TRADE "In a decision largely driven by his political advisers, President Bush set aside his free-trade principles last year and imposed heavy tariffs on imported steel to help out struggling mills in Pennsylvania and West Virginia, two states crucial for his reelection." [Washington Post, 9/19/03]
4. Osama Bin Laden
BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'" [President Bush, on Osama Bin Laden, 09/17/01]
...BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care. It's not that important." [President Bush, Press Conference, 3/13/02]
5. The Environment
BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to…establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]
...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]
6. WMD Commission
BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]
7. Creation of the 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]
8. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission
BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04]
...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]
9. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony
BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]
...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]
10. Gay Marriage
BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]
11. Nation Building
BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]
...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]
12. Saddam/al Qaeda Link
BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]
...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]
13. U.N. Resolution
BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]
...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]
14. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict
BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]
...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]
15. Campaign Finance
BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]
...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold singing ceremony, 03/27/02]
oh well, liberal media at it again....
So you're telling me you have never changed your mind before?
If you put anyones life and words under a magnifying glass the way Bush's has been you will find the same results. A lot of times what first seems to be a sound idea later leads to be a not so sound idea. Is it not okay to change your mind on a subject when you realize that your original idea was not going to achieve the results that you were hoping it would accomplish?
I think every person on this board agrees that George W. Bush is not the best president and if given a "REAL" oponent would vote for the other. However, our alternative to Bush is no less a hypocrite liar then he. Why would I replace Bush with someone who is no better and from what I can tell even MORE of a liar then he is?

[sorry dog]

I'd bang Monica too.

[RiverPirate]

Wow this was fun to watch! Go........"W".

[eliminatedsprinter]

Originally posted by AzDon
[B]I was referring to "fairness" in the analysis of a presidential candidate's qualifications.
That clarification does not make the statement any more accurate or any less bigoted....Don, I'm sure if I knew you in person I'd probably like you and find that we have many things in common. However, that statement was inaccurate and quite simply a lousy thing to say.

[HighRoller]

Don, when you say this class of people does most of the "heavy lifting", I'm assuming you mean literally. Because when it comes to making the country actually run and go places, it's the small business owner that does the heavy lifting. And when it comes to financing government's spending habits it's the wealthiest 10% who do the lifting. As far as the unemployed, explain how anyone stays unemployed more than five minutes these days, much less 34 months like some of these slobs! Oh, that's right, they are sitting around after being laid off from a cushy job and waiting for the next cushy job to come around. Those people are not "go-getters" who drive the country, if you ask me. Yes, there are a lot of jobs that suck, no doubt about that. But those jobs are part of the American Dream, or used to be. See, most people like me who have a suck ass job spend all the time while they're at that sucky job making a plan to get a better job so they don't have to put up with it anymore. Whether its education or some other way of bettering yourself, a lot of people find a way to insure they will never have another crappy, low paying job. And some people don't. They whine that minimum wage isn't enough to support their family of four. IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO YOU LAZY BUM!!!! And Don, if you think that somehow the middle class or lower class will just "go away" you're deluding yourself and don't know much about history. Jobs are not being lost in today's economy, they are just changing very rapidly. We lose 2000 large cororate jobs a day, but 5000 small business jobs are created every day. The economy and the country aren't going to grind to a halt just because some whiny loser refuses to flip burgers. You can't stop capitalism, because somewhere out there is a man with an idea and the knowledge that his idea will make him a lot of money.

[uclahater]

Originally posted by Debbolas
When all is said and done, I have to go with actions.
President Bush's actions speak volumns to me.....Can you imagine if someone els was president after 9-11? He was so strong and took imediate action agianst the threat to our country. All those folks second guessing him monday morning quarterbacking......PLEASE...they all forget....NO ONE ever thought anyone would ever attack our country.
Please remember the awful things happening in Iraq right now are not representative of people as a whole. Most people in the army do not torture prisoners, and most muslims do not chop the heads off of people.
There is a threat in that country that cannot be denied. We cannot remove the criminal element (Saddam Hussien) and then just walk away. We must finish the job we have started.
God Bless America..........
Thank You Very Well Put:D I just spoke to a soldier who returned from Iraq 3 weeks ago. The thing thats been the hardest for him since his return is the Medias:mad: pertrayal of the events over there. He said 90% of the people there were so thankful and Happy for what the USA had done for them. All that the Media:mad: Shows is the bad stuff because thats what sells:mad: It sure would be nice for these guys who have put there Life on the line for all of our freedom to see some of the positives of there effort:cool: Im thankful everyday that we had GW in office on 9/11 instead of AG.:D

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Originally posted by uclahater
Thank You Very Well Put:D I just spoke to a soldier who returned from Iraq 3 weeks ago. The thing thats been the hardest for him since his return is the Medias:mad: pertrayal of the events over there. He said 90% of the people there were so thankful and Happy for what the USA had done for them. All that the Media:mad: Shows is the bad stuff because thats what sells:mad: It sure would be nice for these guys who have put there Life on the line for all of our freedom to see some of the positives of there effort:cool: Im thankful everyday that we had GW in office on 9/11 instead of AG.:D
I think that if Al Gore were in office, he would have launched a few missles at Afganistan and would currently still be negotiating with the Taliban to try to get them to capture Bin Ladin and hand him over to the world court......But that's just my opinion based on the things he has done, said, and written in the past...An opinion nothing more....

[Irishluck]

Originally posted by HighRoller
Don, when you say this class of people does most of the "heavy lifting", I'm assuming you mean literally. Because when it comes to making the country actually run and go places, it's the small business owner that does the heavy lifting. And when it comes to financing government's spending habits it's the wealthiest 10% who do the lifting. As far as the unemployed, explain how anyone stays unemployed more than five minutes these days, much less 34 months like some of these slobs! Oh, that's right, they are sitting around after being laid off from a cushy job and waiting for the next cushy job to come around. Those people are not "go-getters" who drive the country, if you ask me. Yes, there are a lot of jobs that suck, no doubt about that. But those jobs are part of the American Dream, or used to be. See, most people like me who have a suck ass job spend all the time while they're at that sucky job making a plan to get a better job so they don't have to put up with it anymore. Whether its education or some other way of bettering yourself, a lot of people find a way to insure they will never have another crappy, low paying job. And some people don't. They whine that minimum wage isn't enough to support their family of four. IT WASN'T DESIGNED TO YOU LAZY BUM!!!! And Don, if you think that somehow the middle class or lower class will just "go away" you're deluding yourself and don't know much about history. Jobs are not being lost in today's economy, they are just changing very rapidly. We lose 2000 large cororate jobs a day, but 5000 small business jobs are created every day. The economy and the country aren't going to grind to a halt just because some whiny loser refuses to flip burgers. You can't stop capitalism, because somewhere out there is a man with an idea and the knowledge that his idea will make him a lot of money. Very well said Highroller. I have struggled finacially for the last couple of years but I call it paying your dues. I have yet to collect unemployment and have worked some pretty crappy jobs all trying to think of it in a positive manner. The problem with some people today is they expect to much and aren't willing to put forth an effort. Life is hard and sometimes makes no sense but you really get out of life what you put in to it.