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HighRoller
05-21-2004, 05:49 AM
I'm amazed at the sentiment some people have about public indecency and overall bad behavior in public. It's gotten so bad that people are ragging on other people for bringing their kids to the Sandbar. Well, let me ask you this; Why the hell shouldn't someone be able to enjoy a public place with their kids? Yeah, I know what goes on there, but isn't that the problem? I'm so sick of hearing people whine all week on here about how the channel might be restricted, or how the Sandbar is closed on big weekends. Then those same people go there that weekend and sit in the channel with their engine running to power the stereo before heading up to the sandbar to watch drunk skanks pull a train. My point is, why is it the responsibility of decent people to change their behavior so that indecency can be accomodated? There's no sign at Havasu that advertises it as a strip bar or public sex palace, it's a lake! A public setting with rules and laws in place for the protection and consideration of ALL who use it, not just one group. On one hand you have people who just want to have a good time with their kids and who wouldn't disturb anyone. These are obviously the bad people, and must be gotten rid of because on the other hand you have people who encourage, participate in or attract sleazy behavior, drugs, prostitution, fighting and even gunplay. (Yes, these have all happened at Havasu)These are the people who must have the right to do whatever they want wherever they want whether it's legal or not and you better take your children elsewhere if you don't like it. I think I know which crowd I'd rather have parked next to me at the Sandbar.

1stepcloser
05-21-2004, 05:53 AM
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Well put.
I agree completely.

Kachina26
05-21-2004, 05:58 AM
Well, even though you are right, these are the facts of life. If you want to take the family, like I do, find a cove. Or for that matter, just about anywhere on the lake except the sandbar the channel or Copper. LE can't be everywhere and you can't legislate morality.

haulina29
05-21-2004, 06:01 AM
There needs to be a new law in the channnel and at the sanbar on who can wear a g string and who cant , lol , most of the chicks wearing them are just flat nasty and a lot of older girls wearing you wonder what the hell are they thinking . A hard body 20 year old is one thing but a fat ass old lady just is flat nasty .

Mr.Havasu
05-21-2004, 06:09 AM
Well Said!
However, Havasu has become what it has become. That being said, If you have young kids you don't want exposed to questionable behavior than the channel or the sand bar should probably be avoided during the Holidays.
Last 4th of July we parked next to a Family in the Channel with our Grown Children(24 & 26) we did the neighborly thing and offered the parents a beer and some Jello shots. All we got the rest of the day was disgusted looks from them for drinking. We weren't loud and obnoxious, we weren't nude or anything close to it. They were sitting in the channel on a holiday and were upset that people around them had the nerve to party.
There are plenty of private coves and camp site all along the shores for families to gather if they don't want to expose their children to what has become Havasu on a busy weekend.
You don't have to leave, but don't arrive to a party and get upset because the party isn't what you wanted it to be. We all have choices to make, some choose not to expose their children to the sand bar etc. on Holiday weekends.
Michele

mtndewdrops
05-21-2004, 06:11 AM
I agree, so take your drunken sexfest somewhere else...like my house. LOL:eek:

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by haulina29
There needs to be a new law in the channnel and at the sanbar on who can wear a g string and who cant , lol , most of the chicks wearing them are just flat nasty and a lot of older girls wearing you wonder what the hell are they thinking . A hard body 20 year old is one thing but a fat ass old lady just is flat nasty .
Place your hands out in front of you, palms down.
Extend your thumbs towards each other until they touch.
Extend you little fingers straight out away from your body.
Curl all other fingers under.
You now have a fully functioning set of "Butt Calipers". Anybody who cannot fit their butt (or at minimum, waist) inside this device, has no business wearing a thong.

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 06:14 AM
We usually stay at Park Moabi, drive up to the sandbar, the bridge and back. We do this during the week. I tried to go on a weekend once. It was too crowded and we couldn't pull the kids on tubes for all the boats/ski's. No biggie, we bring our kids during the week.
I am looking forward to OP6C without my kids, but most of our vacations are with our kids and we will just avoid "popular" places.
(Well we are going to Lake Mead for Memorial and I don't know what to expect!)
:D

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 06:23 AM
Deb, Mead is pretty tame. Only a couple real 'party beaches', and the cops keep a real close eye on them. Expect low water levels (I wouldn't even go into Las Vegas bay). And bring your DD, memorial day is generally when they set up the checkpoints, both on and off the water.

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 06:26 AM
sorry for the thread jack...........
Thanks, good to know. We are going to the Hacienda. I have never been there before, hoping to meet some cool peeps from the board. We will Designate!;)

THOR
05-21-2004, 06:28 AM
Twistedpair is right. You will get stopped at a DUI checkpoint leaving either Lake Mead Marina or Callville or both. FOr the past 4 years I have hit every one on every holiday weekend.

shueman
05-21-2004, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by warlock25
.......There are plenty of private coves and camp site all along the shores for families to gather if they don't want to expose their children to what has become Havasu on a busy weekend.
......
Michele
Egg-Xactly.............Go where they ain't..............
I go to get away from the crowds. Holiday week-ends are a definite NO, especially with a boat.

Tremor Therapy
05-21-2004, 06:55 AM
Originally posted by warlock25
Well Said!
However, Havasu has become what it has become. That being said, If you have young kids you don't want exposed to questionable behavior than the channel or the sand bar should probably be avoided during the Holidays.
Last 4th of July we parked next to a Family in the Channel with our Grown Children(24 & 26) we did the neighborly thing and offered the parents a beer and some Jello shots. All we got the rest of the day was disgusted looks from them for drinking. We weren't loud and obnoxious, we weren't nude or anything close to it. They were sitting in the channel on a holiday and were upset that people around them had the nerve to party.
There are plenty of private coves and camp site all along the shores for families to gather if they don't want to expose their children to what has become Havasu on a busy weekend.
You don't have to leave, but don't arrive to a party and get upset because the party isn't what you wanted it to be. We all have choices to make, some choose not to expose their children to the sand bar etc. on Holiday weekends.
Michele
I agree with you.....but only to a point! If I pulled up next to your boat (as you described the scene) I would not have any problems at all, and would offer the same right back to you! In fact the "family" group I do go with does make jello shots, brings plenty of refreshments and does have gas powered blenders, so yes....we do know how to party as well!
What I do not appreciate was very well put in the first post. In fact I may be a bit more liberal than others.....because I will stay through the thongs and pasties, but what I do not tolerate are the drinking fests, "boob meters," and other things of that nature.....to that point, the Channel, the Sandbar, Steamboat, and Copper Canyon are public places, so take that hedonism to the private coves where it belongs!
And like the majority of families, once the place gets rocking to hard, I do leave and either go up or down river without a fuss. But I do agree, it is a shame that the major "public" places have to give way once the "party animals" come out to play!

Powerquestboy
05-21-2004, 07:26 AM
Last year during memorial day weekend I was in the channel relaxing with my girlfriend and some other friends when a guy came up to our boat and asked my girlfriend and another friend to take their tops off for the camera and they would receive a free T-shirt. They were some girls gone wild rip off, professional cameras and everything. I absolutely went ape sh*t and almost killed the guy. Now I’m a young guy (25) and all the nudity and trash that you get in havasu doesn’t bother me but when people are soliciting (in my opinion) sex acts from my girlfriend, friends, wifes etc. I think that is ridiculous and it infuriated me that I couldn’t A. beat the hell out of this guy because I would have been arrested or B. throw his camera in the water because I would have been arrested. I think if you want to tape trashy chics doing whatever it is they are doing that’s one thing but if you poke your head into my boat and try to buy my girlfriend off with a t-shirt for a shot of her boobs that is ridiculous and I wish it was illegal. This is what I hate about havasu because even when you try to hang back and be mellow and just watch the madness somehow you always get caught up in it. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen parents leaving the Marina or the channel and cover their kids eyes because some trash sack thinks it’s funny to flash the cute little 10 boy. This is the problem I think because the channel is basically in the middle of town and should be free of nudity but that’s not at all how it is. You can always avoid the Sandbar if you don’t want to deal with this stuff but it really makes me mad that I can’t hang in the channel, the nautical etc without dealing with idiots. I can’t imagine what I would do if I had kids, probably go to Powell every weekend.

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 07:28 AM
The one time we went to Havasu during Memorial (many years ago) The cops arrested any chick that took their tops off. Do they not enoforce that now?
Boat cop
oh
Boat cop
;)

BarryMac
05-21-2004, 07:35 AM
My little family got into boating so we could to be together, I have to admit that to this point in my life I have avoided Havasu mostly because of the skanky acts that I read about, I just don't think my teens and pre-teen daughter need to see some girls and guys acting like they are porn stars. If we do finally make a trip out there it will certainly be mid week to avoid any of the unecessary nonsense.

Kachina26
05-21-2004, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Debbolas
The one time we went to Havasu during Memorial (many years ago) The cops arrested any chick that took their tops off. Do they not enoforce that now?
Boat cop
oh
Boat cop
;)
Like I said LE can't be everywhere;)

jbtrailerjim
05-21-2004, 08:37 AM
Good post High Roller.
Well I'll put in my .02. I love the people that tell people the channel and the sand bar are not places for kid's. Unfortunately they are right to some extent. I've been going to Havasu 16 year's and I find it pathetic how the way young people act nowaday's there. Havasu is a place where everyone should be able to enjoy it. But because the way some of these skanky bitches act they sure are making it hard for a family to enjoy it. No, I'm not talking about the girl's that are flashing there tit's. I don't think that's any big deal. I'm talking about the women who think it's necessary to act like lesbian's and peform sex act's on each other out in public. I think it's bullshit that I have to avoid place's like the sandbar on the weekends because of these pathetic people who obviously have no moral's. I don't need to accomadate these people. These people need to control themselves and quit acting like total asses. If these people want to act like this save it for when they are not in a public place where family's are there with children.

repo man
05-21-2004, 09:11 AM
i' ve got an idea, take your kids too the park at 2 am in south central and let them play with the crack dealers ,streetwalkers ,gangbangers and crackheads .while your at it get on your soapbox and tell them this is a public place and they should act accordinling. i'll bet theres some gun play there also.

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 09:14 AM
:rolleyes:

haulina29
05-21-2004, 09:27 AM
jbtrailerjim I couldnt agree more whats with the dyk fests ? the channel is not the place for a dildo show keep it in the room . Nothing wrong with a nice lady in a swim suit or tastefull pasties or tee back but come on some of these broads need a little guidance lol Another trend is all the older married women hanging all over each other like the sluts lmao getta life

mirvin
05-21-2004, 09:37 AM
This is a double edged question. No, you shouldn't have to leave, but why would you take your family there if you know what is going on. There's plenty of places to go if you want to avoid certain behavior.
mirvin;)

Tom Brown
05-21-2004, 09:40 AM
Let's ban HighRoller from ***boat.

summerlove
05-21-2004, 09:40 AM
I can't believe I'm saying this, but....
I AGREE 100% WITH HIGH ROLLER!!!
Any lake, unless private, is a place for people to enjoy. That includes people of all races, sexes, singles, families, couples, you get the picture. I have a real problem when I'm in the channel or steamboat (we don't even go to the sandbar anymore) and some group of drunks is exhibiting their right to recreate - at my expense! Sure, not everyone is going to act rationale, but you'd expect some common sense from adults. They would not act like that in their neighborhood, the local public pool, or the beach in Hawaii - so why do it there? Havasu is a family place - I've been going there for over 30 years so I've seen it all. I love that place, but it's unfortunate when I can't even bring my kids to the park on the beach on a weekend in the summer, let alone in our boat! I love hanging in the channel, and my kids do too, but only on weekdays and very slow weekends.
I don't mind the thongs, and even the pasties I can go along with, but it's the actions of a few that ruin it for everyone else.
I also want to know what makes it ok to crank your 8000 watt stereo up to the point it's deafening? With every other word F-this and F that? To me, that's almost worse than everything else put together. No common courtesy.
Thank you High Roller for bringing this up.

BoatFloating
05-21-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by repo man
i' ve got an idea, take your kids too the park at 2 am in south central and let them play with the crack dealers ,streetwalkers ,gangbangers and crackheads .while your at it get on your soapbox and tell them this is a public place and they should act accordinling. i'll bet theres some gun play there also.
Oh! I can see the comparision.... NOT!
If I want to see the porn show I go to Sandbar but the Channel should be a little more controled.
Debbolas, the Channel does have zero tolerance for nudity. If you flash and seen you hooked up and arrested.

Scream
05-21-2004, 09:53 AM
We all know where the "hot spots" are. We're well aware of what we'll find when we get there. It is unfortunate that more of these fun spots aren't available to families all of the time, but they are available most of the time.
My family and I go to the Sandbar every time we're in the area. I can count on one had the number of times I was put in a situation where I felt uncomfortable because of my children being present, and I've been there many many times. We're boaters, and as a general rule, we're pretty cool fun loving people. We have fun when and where we gather, and usually make the best of any situation.
Kachina 26 put it best when he stated "you can't legislate morality". This is very true indeed. The community will gravitate to it's own level. If the "community" at the Sandbar is to include X-rated behavior, then so be it. That's when I'll be somewhere else, simply because I don't belong to that community. I suppose if it gets to the point where I'm being chased out of all of the cool spots due to others behavior, then I will have a problem.
Another note, I believe that the "skanky bitches" that put on the shows would keep it at home if us horn dogs would not pay attention to them, but they're gonna keep at it as long as we stand there cheering them on and encouraging them.

Roxysnow
05-21-2004, 10:16 AM
I agree with you, You do have the right to be there! but on the other hand you have a responsibilty to your family also. If you think it is safe and not obscene to have children there then that is your say. As for others telling you to leave or hassling you regarding the kids then you have to ask yourself why they are doing it. They are not hassling you for the hell of it. If your grown up enough to have a family then you should be grown up enough to make the right call! True True!!!

jas0502
05-21-2004, 10:32 AM
My husband and I have always viewed this as a matter of choise. We choose not to take our family to Havasu because of all this. It is not a family place IMHO. We have been a couple of time with out our kids, and we did not really care for the atmosphere. I do agree that if thats what your into , go for it. Its just not our cup of tea. There are plenty of other places for us to go.

cigarette1
05-21-2004, 10:37 AM
What exactly is the fasination of seeing psuedo porn in public ... after all, there are places like The Rhino ... Bare Elegance ... The Playpen .... get to see it up close and personal ... why do guys freak out when the see a set of tits on the lake?
:confused:

CA Stu
05-21-2004, 11:03 AM
There's a time and place for most things.
Use your noodle.
I persoanlly know I wouldn't be doing beer bongs while haging out with the family, but solo, LOOKOUT!
Thanks
CA Stu

unleashed
05-21-2004, 11:06 AM
Hey Highroller, How about the Omish life. It might suit you!:D
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:

DeltaSigBoater
05-21-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by RiverDave
Let it be known that I really don't spend much time in Havasu, and I can get lost in the bathroom of a 7 / 11..
I've gotten lost in the bathroom of Denny's on New Year's, but thats a different story:rolleyes:

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 11:14 AM
Hey RD, when did they move Bourbon Street to Dallas?:D :confused:
Sorry, that just gave your whole post an "Animal House' type of feel.
"Did we give up after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell NO!"
"Don't stop him, he's on a roll."

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by haulina29
There needs to be a new law in the channnel and at the sanbar on who can wear a g string and who cant , lol , most of the chicks wearing them are just flat nasty and a lot of older girls wearing you wonder what the hell are they thinking . A hard body 20 year old is one thing but a fat ass old lady just is flat nasty .
well This old lady will keep that in mind.. ;)

syke-o
05-21-2004, 11:23 AM
i agree with RD on this one.... i am leaving the wife and kids at home for mem weekend so i can enjoy the "adult" entertainment this weekend... and like RD said we all know where to go to find it...:cool: and if i was bringing the kids i would choose where to take them and where not to take them....

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by HighRoller
I'm amazed at the sentiment some people have about public indecency and overall bad behavior in public. It's gotten so bad that people are ragging on other people for bringing their kids to the Sandbar. Well, let me ask you this; Why the hell shouldn't someone be able to enjoy a public place with their kids? Yeah, I know what goes on there, but isn't that the problem? I'm so sick of hearing people whine all week on here about how the channel might be restricted, or how the Sandbar is closed on big weekends. Then those same people go there that weekend and sit in the channel with their engine running to power the stereo before heading up to the sandbar to watch drunk skanks pull a train. My point is, why is it the responsibility of decent people to change their behavior so that indecency can be accomodated? There's no sign at Havasu that advertises it as a strip bar or public sex palace, it's a lake! A public setting with rules and laws in place for the protection and consideration of ALL who use it, not just one group. On one hand you have people who just want to have a good time with their kids and who wouldn't disturb anyone. These are obviously the bad people, and must be gotten rid of because on the other hand you have people who encourage, participate in or attract sleazy behavior, drugs, prostitution, fighting and even gunplay. (Yes, these have all happened at Havasu)These are the people who must have the right to do whatever they want wherever they want whether it's legal or not and you better take your children elsewhere if you don't like it. I think I know which crowd I'd rather have parked next to me at the Sandbar.
well then don't go there.. . I don't understand your point.. Is it because you have kids or is it because you can't go because you don't have a boat, or is it because you just hate to here people bitch about what they can and can't do at Havasu.. people are there to unwind from the city life and the jobs.. REGULARS know where to go and where not to go with there kids..
it is a big lake and there are plenty of places people can go with their kids..
not trying to bust your balls but if you are not a regular.. then you are listening to people that go there or what?;)

Blown 472
05-21-2004, 11:25 AM
It is all summed up with a simple lack of respect, for yourself, your friends, other people.

jbtrailerjim
05-21-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
It is all summed up with a simple lack of respect, for yourself, your friends, other people.
Exactly!!!!

Tom Brown
05-21-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
It is all summed up with a simple lack of respect, for yourself, your friends, other people.
**** you

OLDRAT
05-21-2004, 11:32 AM
A rule to consider:
All lakes have their party spots as well as the low-key areas, whether it be Havasu, LOTO or Grand Lake in Okie-homa where I live. It is also our "freedom of choice" to decide where we are going to be at, or hang with. People that like the river or lake and do not party, or have children, etc..etc should make the right decision for themselves and their charges and unless someone directly insults or assults them, just enjoy the show or move on.
It's like a bad t.v. program or a movie; if you don't like what you see, change channels, shut it off, or leave.
I find myself not as tolerant of some of the stuff I was part of in years past, but I try not to bother anyone unless they bother me, cause just being in a boat and kicking back is good no matter where you are, and if you get to see some babes or future darwin winners, it just makes it better.
Have a good weekend all!:D

Blown 472
05-21-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
**** you
Brown, meet me by the flagpole after class, I am going to break you in half you ****ing, ****.

Tom Brown
05-21-2004, 11:34 AM
Care for a Havana? :D

CA Stu
05-21-2004, 11:35 AM
So you're saying if there are a bunch of families watching Sesame Street, it wouldn't be a good idea for Big Bird to slam tequila and dance on the stripper pole while Elmo bangs himself?
Thanks
CA Stu

cigarette1
05-21-2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Blown 472
It is all summed up with a simple lack of respect, for yourself, your friends, other people.
Sounds about right.
TB, I already know .... Fu@k Me
G

Troubles No More
05-21-2004, 11:41 AM
We cannot legislate ethics or morality at the river or anywhere else.
Just because you have the freedom or choice to do something, doesn't necessarily mean you should do it, you need to stop and think, pick the time and place to engage in (pick one- sex, drugs, rock & roll, nudity etc......).
I do not advocate self-destructive behavior,( not any more) , just our right to choose, to make our own choices, to be individual and free.
My friend keeps telling me-
Freedom is having rights to do what you want. You may be able to do what you want but if you are escaping your responsibilities you are not really having freedom you are a victim of your desire. (one of these days this may sink in)………my.02

Tom Brown
05-21-2004, 11:42 AM
We have lots of nude beaches in Canada. Why don't they post the sandbar as an adult beach? There ought to be enough room on this planet for everybody.

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 11:48 AM
I think if your nude beach looked like this, you guys would be calling out the Army.
http://www.riverratlife.com/uploads/hdd/Bikini/Sandbarplane.jpg

Tremor Therapy
05-21-2004, 11:52 AM
What a bunch of crap! Does anyone remember why some of these spots got closed down on the holiday weekends? It was because of all of the people who need to get f'ing crazy on their time off of work!
Now let me preface this by stating.........like I wrote in my earlier post, when boating I am rather mellow, so when the party animals come out to play, I bail and don't create a fuss for anyone. I believe in the boating karma, and figure that even hassling the party animals is bad boating karma.
BUT! How many times even on an off weekday have I had a boat load of assholes pull up next to me with their beer bongs, flashing the crowd, 10000w stereo pounding out unbearable bullshit rap music............I can't count how many times that has happened!:mad: So all of you who feel that it is up to me and my family to leave because you want to act any way you like, where does your logic emanate from?
I have frequented these places for 25+years, and these places weren't always like this, and I find it a shame that my kids can't enjoy these places like I used too. And to your statements, the lake is a big place so go find somewhere else......well we have been for years, and no matter where we try and go, sooner or later this behavior ends up everywhere!

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:00 PM
I do have to agree with this.. somewhat.. when a boat pulls up next to a family with kids and start doing this.. it is just wrong and very disrespectful to the family.. if you are going to party don't pull up next to people with kids. although my kids would tell you that you are not respectful to others and tell you that you are nasty.. my kids are not affraid to tell you that respect of others is number one while boating.. this is how they are brought up because this is how I was brought up.. I do not flash, I do not do anything disrepectful to myself, my kids, or anyone elses kids.. I may wear a thong and pasties but if you don't like it then don't park next to me..;)

THOR
05-21-2004, 12:03 PM
MFV, can I park next to you? ;)

Krumbsnatcher
05-21-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by gottajetboat
My little family got into boating so we could to be together, I have to admit that to this point in my life I have avoided Havasu mostly because of the skanky acts that I read about, I just don't think my teens and pre-teen daughter need to see some girls and guys acting like they are porn stars. If we do finally make a trip out there it will certainly be mid week to avoid any of the unecessary nonsense.
Havasu is fine any off weekend, lots of family's and the sand bar is large enough for the rif-raf if any to have their own section.
I take my family there all the time on off weekends. In fact i have a house there.
You will be fine, just stay away from the large weekends.

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by THOR
MFV, can I park next to you? ;)
anytime sweety as long as I won't offend you with my ass hangin out and nipples covered.. ;) :D

Tremor Therapy
05-21-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
I do have to agree with this.. somewhat.. when a boat pulls up next to a family with kids and start doing this.. it is just wrong and very disrespectful to the family.. if you are going to party don't pull up next to people with kids. although my kids would tell you that you are not respectful to others and tell you that you are nasty.. my kids are not affraid to tell you that respect of others is number one while boating.. this is how they are brought up because this is how I was brought up.. I do not flash, I do not do anything disrepectful to myself, my kids, or anyone elses kids.. I may wear a thong and pasties but if you don't like it then don't park next to me..;)
Exactly what I am trying to get accross, and when I am out on a busy weekend, I definately do my recon prior to pulling up anywhere, because this goes both ways......if me and my kids are in a certain spot, please take your floating party and park somewhere else.....but if you and your party are going off in a certain spot, I am going to give the same respect, and find a more mellow area to park. And since I am a bit more liberal minded than other families, Mrs. Flyin Vee you can wear your thong and pasties, and it won't hurt my feelings a bit! ;)

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Tremor Therapy
Exactly what I am trying to get accross, and when I am out on a busy weekend, I definately do my recon prior to pulling up anywhere, because this goes both ways......if me and my kids are in a certain spot, please take your floating party and park somewhere else.....but if you and your party are going off in a certain spot, I am going to give the same respect, and find a more mellow area to park. And since I am a bit more liberal minded that outher families, Mrs. Flyin Vee you can wear your thong and pasties, and it won't hurt my feelings a bit!
well thank you sweety.. I just know I wouldn't want people flashing around my kids either and I respect that from you also.. so I would hope people would respect my kids in the same way..
I have asked people that we go with that have their kids.. If me wearing a thong would be o.k with them if they say yes or no.. I will put a wrap on or even a reg. bathing suit out of respect for those people.. or wear a thong that is not so reveiling.. I hope what I said makes sense.. :D ;)

Tremor Therapy
05-21-2004, 12:17 PM
Makes absolute sense. It goes back to the age old adage.....give respect, get respect. And I have always felt like boating karma is the same way.

Mrs. Bordsmnj
05-21-2004, 12:18 PM
The sandbar is a pretty big place in my opinion. While there may be debauchery going on, I have never seen it going on all over the ENTIRE sandbar.
Just park your boat on the other end or walk the other way. Big Deal!

HCS
05-21-2004, 12:18 PM
On occasion I waterski naked. Is that offensive?

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:18 PM
I agree.. if my kids aren't with me have at it.. but I need to join.. ;)

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
On occasion I waterski naked. Is that offensive?
depends how cold the water is.. :D :eek: :eek:

HCS
05-21-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
depends how cold the water is.. :D :eek: :eek:
If it's too cold you won't see anything but a white set of butt
cheeks after I ski bye.

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
If it's too cold you won't see anything but a white set of butt
cheeks after I ski bye. LMAO!! no different then what you would see on me then.. LOL!! :D :D

909er
05-21-2004, 12:27 PM
Hope no one is bringing their kids to OP-6 as Bre is gonna be there :eek:

HCS
05-21-2004, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
LMAO!! no different then what you would see on me then.. LOL!! :D :D
LOL It would look a little different, I don't shave.:D

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
LOL It would look a little different, I don't shave.:D
ROTFLMAO!! what makes you think I shave the landing.. LOL!! :D

twistedpair
05-21-2004, 12:33 PM
Like a button on a fur coat!:eek:

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by 909er
Hope no one is bringing their kids to OP-6 as Bre is gonna be there :eek:
oh yah.. park next to me :D

HCS
05-21-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
ROTFLMAO!! what makes you think I shave the landing.. LOL!! :D
I would sure hope you weren't sport'in a bush under the thong.
::eek: :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
I would sure hope you weren't sport'in a bush under the thong.
::eek: :D
LMAO!! if I was it wouldn't be under my thong.. LOL!! :D :eek: :eek:

jbtrailerjim
05-21-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Tremor Therapy
Exactly what I am trying to get accross, and when I am out on a busy weekend, I definately do my recon prior to pulling up anywhere, because this goes both ways......if me and my kids are in a certain spot, please take your floating party and park somewhere else.....but if you and your party are going off in a certain spot, I am going to give the same respect, and find a more mellow area to park. And since I am a bit more liberal minded than other families, Mrs. Flyin Vee you can wear your thong and pasties, and it won't hurt my feelings a bit! ;)
This is exactly what I do and feel. If I see a big crew partying down in the channel and I don't feel like dealing with it. I just find somewhere else to park. But it does piss me off when some crew pull's up next to me and my family in the channel with there huge stereo blasting and there all wasted and acting like asses. I don't make any big deal about it. When I've had enough, I just pack up and go somewhere else. There's a time and a place for everything and it's all about respecting the people that are around you.
Oh, and MRS FLYIN VEE. Thong's & pasties are fine with me. You can park next to me anytime.;) :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by jbtrailerjim
This is exactly what I do and feel. If I see a big crew partying down in the channel and I don't feel like dealing with it. I just find somewhere else to park. But it does piss me off when some crew pull's up next to me and my family in the channel with there huge stereo blasting and there all wasted and acting like asses. I don't make any big deal about it. When I've had enough, I just pack up and go somewhere else. There's a time and a place for everything and it's all about respecting the people that are around you.
Oh, and MRS FLYIN VEE. Thong's & pasties are fine with me. You can park next to me anytime.;) :D
thanks sweety.. I just don't want and try not to disrespect others and I don't want people to think bad of me for what I wear.. I am pretty low key so to speak.. not real wild but just like to have fun.. :D ;)

HCS
05-21-2004, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
thanks sweety.. I just don't want and try not to disrespect others and I don't want people to think bad of me for what I wear.. I am pretty low key so to speak.. not real wild but just like to have fun.. :D ;)
Is that why you don't shave the rug?:D :D :D

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-21-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by HARDCORE-SKI
Is that why you don't shave the rug?:D :D :D
yep.. :D :D LMAO!!

haulina29
05-21-2004, 03:42 PM
MRS FLYN VEE if you got it flaunt and if you dont cover it up LMAO !Pasties pointing at the ground hanging at the waist and a size 10 in a string dont cut it ys with me :wink:

HighRoller
05-21-2004, 03:52 PM
Interesting. Things were going well until certain people decided to prove my point by attacking me without knowing anything about me. As far as people's assumptions that I'm some kind of river rookie, that I don't have a boat, that I'm jealous because I can't do it etc...give me a f$%king break already. I am 33 yo and went to Havasu for the first time when my Mom was pregnant with me. After that I went every year several times a year. I've boated for over 30 years, owned my own boats and lived at the river for several years. So I've been there, and seen it a dozen times and even done it once or twice....Rd, who doesn't own a boat, is treating me like some kind of river rookie. So I'm confused, jealous and bitter according to RD and I have no confidence. This coming from people who worry about what song they need to play when they show up because they're trying to impress people. I'm being accused of being insecure by people who strap silicone bags to their chest and prance around nearly naked because they like the attention. And I'm the bad guy for condoning responsible behavior at the river, while the people you defend are in the process of having access to many areas limited because of their stupidity. As far as Mardi-Gras, what have the cops been doing lately? Arresting those who misbehave. Why? Because they saw their once great party turning into a cesspool of debauchery and indecency. Does anyone remember a couple years ago when this same crowd was bashing people for not being "River Aware"? Well, being RA includes having consideration for EVERYONE on the river, not just those who want to see your wife's tits and ass. True, we both have differing points of view that we are allowed to practice, but let's look at the facts. Which kind of behavior gets places like Copper Canyon closed? Which group got the Sandbar closed for big weekends? Which kind of behavior is endangering public access to the Channel? Starting to see a pattern? NOTHING I do while I'm on the water would ever result in these actions being taken because I have a great amount of respect for the river and its venues. But again, I suppose I should go elsewhere. And when my little cove gets overrun with scumbags, I'll have to leave again, right? And soon I'll have to leave the whole lake because people need to be able to have fun, right? My original question was why I should have to leave. Look at the kind of things YOU have to defend to prove me wrong. I'm trying to defend the river and keep it from getting restricted by LE because the behavior gets so out of control. And that makes me the bad guy because others have no self control or self respect.

haulina29
05-21-2004, 04:11 PM
High roller your point is valid the channel does need some work live sex acts dont belong in public places period infact they are illegal " wow what a concept " but to some , laws do not apply and usually the same have no respect for there them selfs and for sure no respect for guy next to him . Who decides what day is family day and what day is skank day . Just because you left your kids home on a holiday dont mean I did . Dont get me wrong there are some killer chicks in the channel showing what they got covered correctly and there are some real pigs also with it all hanging out . The OP deal down on the river is a adult atmosphere and kids are not recomended i applaude that . But the Channel is a public place for all to enjoy , if you want to have a **** fest in the channel rent the damn thing and close it to the public :D

Starloans
05-21-2004, 04:24 PM
Hey, you guys are saying SKANK like it's a bad thing or something. :D
Silicon bags..................where??????????
Seriously, that type of behavior does not belong in the channel where kids can see it. If you wanna go off out of the pubic eye and do that..........have at it. Keep it away from the kids is all I say.

haulina29
05-21-2004, 04:59 PM
RD I grew up at the river as did you my parents had a place when we were kids and I have had one also , the River has changed as all thing s do the people that went in the 60s 70s and 80s were a different breed , You are correct there has always been the party crowd and the hippy era and so on , the ups and downs poster doesnt even hold a candle to the shit that goes on in broad daylight at the strip and in LH . What goes on in a house in the keys or a house in LH is all good . In a bar its cool but not on a poontoon boat floating thru the channel. a little boob flashing is no big deal but live sex acts are bit overboard . Gang bangin little pricks and there sluts need to go . I feel as you Parker and LH are places to go cut loose but use common sense all things said there is still and never will be any place like Parker ;)

unleashed
05-21-2004, 05:01 PM
Highroller, For god sakes who cares about the river you live in Portland. Enjoy the rain and continue to Contribute to peoples bad habits!:D
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com)

No Drama
05-21-2004, 06:20 PM
Greetings fellow boaters,
I have been a lurker in this forum for many years, and I rarely voice my opinion, if at all. I enjoy reading the threads and have learned to like and dislike many of the contributors or characters portrayed. With that said, I read the original posting on this thread and it really struck a nerve. I chose to voice my unsolicited opinion because this censorship problem has gone too far in this so called free nation.
My point, and I will try to make it brief is, If you don’t like the situation in hand, go elsewhere.
Examples:
1) Here in the Los Angeles area there are 30 some odd FM radio stations, Howard Stearn is the host of 97.1 KLSK, in the mornings. His show is very much directed at a mature audience. Definitely not for children. Turn the dial. There are 29 or more stations for you and your family to listen too.
2) We have Digital Satellite TV, 700 plus channels, of which six of them may have nudity or adult content, not for your family. Change the channel
3) There are many neighborhoods here where drugs and violence are daily lifestyles. If you don’t want to expose your family to this, stay out of their neighborhood. The rest of the state is there for your enjoyment.
4) West Hollywood is designated as a homosexual community, you don’t agree with their lifestyle. You have the rest of the state to enjoy.
Havasu, and many other lakes have areas, where people gather to do as they please. Whether it is illegal, immoral or disturbing to you and your family, it is what it is.
If you are not happy, there are miles of lake/river for your families’ enjoyment.
My point is you have options as an American. Why do you think you can change other people’s rights and privileges, because you don’t happen to agree with them?
Our government has taken it upon themselves to censor everything we see, hear and live by. Yet another step to removing our rights as a free country.
I personally do not enjoy the so called entertainment at many of these high visited spots. At times they do get way out of hand. But I have the choice to take my family there or find a more suitable place to enjoy the lake with them.
You or no governing agency is going to tell me I do not have the option or right to visit these areas.
I apologize for the rant. Every year your rights and mine are slowly diminishing. Honestly I’m sick of it.
Hope to meet some of you guys anywhere on the lake.

summerlove
05-21-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by RiverDave
But if I had a group of kids with me I can tell you flat out that we wouldn't be visiting (or atleast staying long ;) )
The Channel
Copper Canyon
The SandBar
SteamBoat Cove
The small sandbar
etc...
I kinda agree but not - I think your entire logic is all f'd up, but that's ok, it's your logic and who am I to be logical...
Anyway, to my point -
The Channel should be cleaned up so that I can take my family there anytime. It's the second largest tourist attraction in Arizona, so they say. People that go to the channel just need to be respectful - that's all I'm saying. It'll never happen, but it should.
Copper canyon has ALWAYS been off limits for families, except during the week - has been for decades. No problem there - have at it!
Steamboat Cove is the only place left where a group of friends and families can meet and be away from the chaos that is the Channel, Copper and the Sandbar. If you want to act like a jackass, don't go there. Besides, the sheriff and the CG are there all the time to make certain things stay under control - it's the last place we have left!
Sandbar never existed 5 or 6 years ago. Oh yea, it was there, but no big deal! It wasn't until the Havasu explosion took place with MTV Spring Break did it become big.
Minibar - never been therre, so I can't comment.
People just need to realize they can't infringe on everyone else's right to enjoy themselves, without some a-hole cranking 1000 watts of rap crap.

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by haulina29
MRS FLYN VEE if you got it flaunt and if you dont cover it up LMAO !Pasties pointing at the ground hanging at the waist and a size 10 in a string dont cut it ys with me :wink:
Well I KNOW what I'm wearing to OP6C this year!!!!
:D

summerlove
05-21-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
I have learned to like and dislike many of the contributors or characters portrayed. With that said, I read the original posting on this thread and it really struck a nerve. I chose to voice my unsolicited opinion because this censorship problem has gone too far in this so called free nation.
My point, and I will try to make it brief is, If you don’t like the situation in hand, go elsewhere.
Examples:
1) Here in the Los Angeles area there are 30 some odd FM radio stations, Howard Stearn is the host of 97.1 KLSK, in the mornings. His show is very much directed at a mature audience. Definitely not for children. Turn the dial. There are 29 or more stations for you and your family to listen too.
2) We have Digital Satellite TV, 700 plus channels, of which six of them may have nudity or adult content, not for your family. Change the channel
3) There are many neighborhoods here where drugs and violence are daily lifestyles. If you don’t want to expose your family to this, stay out of their neighborhood. The rest of the state is there for your enjoyment.
4) West Hollywood is designated as a homosexual community, you don’t agree with their lifestyle. You have the rest of the state to enjoy.
Havasu, and many other lakes have areas, where people gather to do as they please. Whether it is illegal, immoral or disturbing to you and your family, it is what it is.
If you are not happy, there are miles of lake/river for your families’ enjoyment.
My point is you have options as an American. Why do you think you can change other people’s rights and privileges, because you don’t happen to agree with them?
Our government has taken it upon themselves to censor everything we see, hear and live by. Yet another step to removing our rights as a free country.
I personally do not enjoy the so called entertainment at many of these high visited spots. At times they do get way out of hand. But I have the choice to take my family there or find a more suitable place to enjoy the lake with them.
You or no governing agency is going to tell me I do not have the option or right to visit these areas.
I apologize for the rant. Every year your rights and mine are slowly diminishing. Honestly I’m sick of it.
Hope to meet some of you guys anywhere on the lake.
What kind of crap is that? You want to encourage behaviour like that - give me a break. I can go elsewhere? Screw you. I feel sorry for your neighbors because you have the right to act like an a-hole whenever you want - they can just move, right? I've been going to Havasu for over 30 years and it's attitudes like yours that is staining image of the river and Havasu in particular.
BTW, who said anything about taking your rights away? People that flash are cited, if caught - that illegal. If yo drink and drive and get caught, that's illegal, if you are too noisy, in the opinion of the authorities, that's illegal, if you wear a thong and pasties, that's ok because it's not illegal, if you engage in sex acts in the public - that's illegal. Are you saying the illegal things are ok? They should not enforce the laws? These laws have been on the books for many, many years.

haulina29
05-21-2004, 07:16 PM
SL well said . I like the paties and g string stuff,well most of the time lol :D

haulina29
05-21-2004, 07:18 PM
Debbolas :D :D :D

ratso
05-21-2004, 07:26 PM
What I have found out in my lifetime is that some people just like to bitch. :D

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by haulina29
Debbolas :D :D :D
;)

superdave013
05-21-2004, 07:37 PM
Yo!
please pass the pop corn and can I get a hit of what some of you guys are smokin?? :p

ratso
05-21-2004, 07:40 PM
F**K smokin'...I'm going out Drinkin'

Blown 472
05-21-2004, 07:48 PM
Dang, this shit never happens on the lake I go to?? oh yeah, f uck you Tom Brown.
And really, just how many f ucking skanks can you look at, they all look tha same after awhile.

Tom Brown
05-21-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Blown 472
oh yeah, f uck you Tom Brown.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 07:59 PM
That is why porn is boring IMO
:)

Blown 472
05-21-2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by Debbolas
That is why porn is boring IMO
:)
Only after the first 15 min.
Bravo to you highroller.
RD, you look in dickshunary for that big word? wow.

GlastronGuy
05-21-2004, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by RiverDave
My whole post was "tounge in cheek" I apollogize if you didn't catch the obvious humour from about the 2nd half on.. I never attacked you, I was making a generalized JOKE on behalf of the mentallity not you personally.
2ndly, I never assumed you were a river rookie since you seem to bring this last paragraph up atleast twice a month on here.. I've read it several times. I wasn't attacking you personally again.. I will say this though, for a guy that has been going to the river for 30+ odd years your sure are wound a little tight for living.
Now however you have attacked me so I feel I should respond atleast a little bit.. While she maybe small, it is technically a boat. Bubbles that is.. And by the way a cheap shot is worth a cheap shot so to speak.. I could go several routes with that, but I'm not going too.. I'll just say that I wouldn't be dancing from the roof tops about owning that old delaminator.
Once again, I wasn't attacking you personally just ****ing around... Man, do you have some issues with bolt ons or what? Look at you all high and ****ing mighty.. I'd bet dollars to donuts sais if you could afford the penile enlargement you'd be all over that shit in a heartbeat. Nobody and I mean nobody I know condemns entire groups of people for no reason unless they got some serious little man complex going on.. Great attitude for a bartender too by the way. Didn't YOU SAY you wanted a job down on the strip? If you got one and some chick with a fake rack jumped on the bar and was doing body shots.. what are ya gonna do walk over there and kick her off the bar while calling her an attention *****? WTF?? Dude lighten up a bit.
Is that what it is? I thought is was becuase of dumbshits showing up and saying things like "Why do I have to leave?"
Copper Canyon wasn't shut down becuase of chix flashing their tits.. It was shut down because MTV brought a bunch of gangsters out to Havasu and it was then discovered by a "bad element" That bad element has caused enough problems that the police simply can't be everywhere at one time. Fact of the matter is, that BAD ELEMENT has caused the cops to crack down on the partyers. The partyers have been in Havasu & Parker since the 60's... You ever see the "Ups n Downs" poster? What year was that taken? 1975??
Nothing I do out there would result in these things either... ???
Whoa.. Hold the **** up here for a second. Are you saying that everyone that goes out and lets a little loose is a scumbag? If so take that attitude and shove it right in your holier then though bartender ass. I can understand if your saying the little gang banger pricks.. but if your referring to a girl becuase she flashes her tits or something??? WTF?
No your not trying to "defend the river" you sanctimonious prick.. and it doesn't sound to me like your trying to keep LE from getting involved. It's sounding to me like you think they oughta be more involved becuase you dissaprove of certain behaviors.
Now moving onto the most important thing here, what's bugging you HR?? You've been wound a little tight lately. I figure you took a shot at me, so I took one back we're even.. Can we go back to discussing drink recipes now? Or do I gotta go down the road of "Well your contributing to it.. after all your the bartender aren't ya?" :D
RD
Have you ever thought that if you constantly have to defend your actions that you might be a dick?

GlastronGuy
05-21-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
Greetings fellow boaters,
I have been a lurker in this forum for many years, and I rarely voice my opinion, if at all. I enjoy reading the threads and have learned to like and dislike many of the contributors or characters portrayed. With that said, I read the original posting on this thread and it really struck a nerve. I chose to voice my unsolicited opinion because this censorship problem has gone too far in this so called free nation.
My point, and I will try to make it brief is, If you don’t like the situation in hand, go elsewhere.
Examples:
1) Here in the Los Angeles area there are 30 some odd FM radio stations, Howard Stearn is the host of 97.1 KLSK, in the mornings. His show is very much directed at a mature audience. Definitely not for children. Turn the dial. There are 29 or more stations for you and your family to listen too.
2) We have Digital Satellite TV, 700 plus channels, of which six of them may have nudity or adult content, not for your family. Change the channel
3) There are many neighborhoods here where drugs and violence are daily lifestyles. If you don’t want to expose your family to this, stay out of their neighborhood. The rest of the state is there for your enjoyment.
4) West Hollywood is designated as a homosexual community, you don’t agree with their lifestyle. You have the rest of the state to enjoy.
Havasu, and many other lakes have areas, where people gather to do as they please. Whether it is illegal, immoral or disturbing to you and your family, it is what it is.
If you are not happy, there are miles of lake/river for your families’ enjoyment.
My point is you have options as an American. Why do you think you can change other people’s rights and privileges, because you don’t happen to agree with them?
Our government has taken it upon themselves to censor everything we see, hear and live by. Yet another step to removing our rights as a free country.
I personally do not enjoy the so called entertainment at many of these high visited spots. At times they do get way out of hand. But I have the choice to take my family there or find a more suitable place to enjoy the lake with them.
You or no governing agency is going to tell me I do not have the option or right to visit these areas.
I apologize for the rant. Every year your rights and mine are slowly diminishing. Honestly I’m sick of it.
Hope to meet some of you guys anywhere on the lake.
Go back to lurking, that makes no sense.

Debbolas
05-21-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Blown 472
Only after the first 15 min.
So why are all porn movies soooooo long?
:D

Scream
05-21-2004, 08:25 PM
I think you all need a little chocolate and a couple dozen beers.
Lighten up you bastards!!!
Scream <----7 days till Memorial Day Weekend...

Ziggy
05-21-2004, 08:40 PM
I guess I'll chime in here too.
I applaud HighRoller for making his statement and he stands by it. I agree with the majority of it, but BLOWN 472 simplified the whole thing with "respect of yourself, friends and family".
Another point was made that you can move to another location to save yourself from the "madness" but slowly and sure as shit your location will get overun too. I have been going to the same little cove with my family for several years but only in the last few years have others discovered it, they come in and blast crap music as if they're deaf without the slightest degree of respect(gee I guess its time for me to relocate because the neighborhood just went downhill:rolleyes:) , I have no issues with the ones who come in and share respectfully...
RD, you say that we know its a known party spot and we should avoid it, OK I can live with that but in the same sentence(figuritively) you denounce the fact that gangbangers are coming around....how is that any different than HR denouncing the sex acts in public? They have a right to be there too, so long as they respect others around them, just as partiers should respect the ones around them.
As the disrespectful acts continue, LE will continue to enforce and create new bans on certain locations, even further limiting the areas for families to enjoy because the partiers have been tossed and need a new locale, namely where you are now. Thats a battle nobody is a winner of.
Personally, I say live and let live simply put but have common decency toward your fellow man.
I'm all for thongs, pasties and all that stuff but when I see/watch a chick blowin' some dude in the channal in the bow of the boat not 15 feet from the PUBLIC sidewalk, it makes me want to slap the biatch and kick the dude in the balls. Dude even stood up after she finished and did a Schwartzneger pose like he won the f'ing Lottery.
So in closing, I like to party, I like thongs, I like tits, I love ass but I respect good neighbors who act appropriately.

sandblasted
05-21-2004, 08:44 PM
Seems like we are arguing 2 different issues here..."Adult party spots" and rude behavior...Personally I'm glad there are a few known spots for "adult behavior" that i can visit if I want and avoid if I choose to....And really there are only a few...
Let's see..There are like 2-3 coves out of a hundred on Lake Mojave that are considered "adult party spots"...Between Bullhead and the sandbar there is only 1 really-"the sandbar"...Down in havasu you have Copper Canyon and the Channel...I mean let's be realistic, the vast majority of "the river' is family friendly...but if you want to have an adult trip you know where the party spots are...Hell, I could spend an entire week on the river and never see a naked boob but if I choose to I know where to go...
Another example I could use is Lake Nacimiento..which I visit at least once a year...There are coves and beaches everywhere, plenty of areas to be by yourself or hang with other families but if you want to get wild there is the "narrows"...Thats one spot out of the entire friggin lake.....
As to the other issue of rude behavior, I can't argue that...Our society in general has become more rude. It's too bad we have to deal with it on the water since I think most of us go boating to get away from that bullshit and relax...

repo man
05-21-2004, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Tremor Therapy
What a bunch of crap! Does anyone remember why some of these spots got closed down on the holiday weekends? It was because of all of the people who need to get f'ing crazy on their time off of work!
Now let me preface this by stating.........like I wrote in my earlier post, when boating I am rather mellow, so when the party animals come out to play, I bail and don't create a fuss for anyone. I believe in the boating karma, and figure that even hassling the party animals is bad boating karma.
BUT! How many times even on an off weekday have I had a boat load of assholes pull up next to me with their beer bongs, flashing the crowd, 10000w stereo pounding out unbearable bullshit rap music............I can't count how many times that has happened!:mad: So all of you who feel that it is up to me and my family to leave because you want to act any way you like, where does your logic emanate from?
hey pops, my grandma thinks g strings are discusting. mabe it's time to take up golf.you'l never see sutch lude acts at the country club.mabe there you can discus a way to ban every thing you don't like
I have frequented these places for 25+years, and these places weren't always like this, and I find it a shame that my kids can't enjoy these places like I used too. And to your statements, the lake is a big place so go find somewhere else......well we have been for years, and no matter where we try and go, sooner or later this behavior ends up everywhere!

rvrpig
05-21-2004, 08:54 PM
Well all I have to say is whether the ehavior is right or wrong....you know what happens at places like the sand bar and channell. If you dont want your kids exposed to things that happen at the sand bar then stay away. If you take your kids to the sand bar end expect it to be G-rated then you need to have your head checked. Its like violence on TV......if you dont like it then change the station!

repo man
05-21-2004, 08:54 PM
they only close these spots after you complain about them . so don't cry about incrotchment on your family spot right after you get done making you complaint about the hot spots

No Drama
05-21-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
What kind of crap is that? You want to encourage behaviour like that - give me a break. I can go elsewhere? Screw you. I feel sorry for your neighbors because you have the right to act like an a-hole whenever you want - they can just move, right? I've been going to Havasu for over 30 years and it's attitudes like yours that is staining image of the river and Havasu in particular.
BTW, who said anything about taking your rights away? People that flash are cited, if caught - that illegal. If yo drink and drive and get caught, that's illegal, if you are too noisy, in the opinion of the authorities, that's illegal, if you wear a thong and pasties, that's ok because it's not illegal, if you engage in sex acts in the public - that's illegal. Are you saying the illegal things are ok? They should not enforce the laws? These laws have been on the books for many, many years.
First of all, Old man, that “crap”, happens to be my opinion. And like you, I too am entitled to voice my opinion.
Okay, so lets review. Where in my commentary does it say anything about me encouraging behavior of any type, good or bad? Okay. As for your second attack, my neighbors are very happy to have myself and my family in our community. Unlike your assumption of my character, I happen to be an upstanding citizen. Your apparent reading comprehension or lack there of, indicates to me that you misunderstood my commentary all together. If you would like me to explain it to you in your level of comprehension, I would be happy to. As for the next comments, frankly I don’t give a rat’s ass how long you have been going to Havasu or anywhere else for that matter. For clarification purposes, my attitude pertaining to this topic is, I either accept the things I cannot change or I can chose not to be a part of it. That my friend is my right.
As for your next paragraph, my right is to either participate in whatever function is taking place or not attend a gathering that is not suitable to my taste. And taste is every individual’s personal flavor. I never once commented on the rights of those engaged in what you so eloquently described it as, unlawful activity. The Sheriffs Dept., are paid to uphold the laws of the County. That is there job, not yours nor mine. When you become a sworn Peace Officer, you may start dictating who is breaking the laws and who should be arrested. In the meantime, since you or I cannot change the behavior in those public areas, perhaps you should be a bit more realistic, use a little common sense, and keep yourself, your spouse and the damn kids out of that scene.
Do I make myself clear?

rvrpig
05-21-2004, 09:05 PM
Well all I have to say is whether the ehavior is right or wrong....you know what happens at places like the sand bar and channell. If you dont want your kids exposed to things that happen at the sand bar then stay away. If you take your kids to the sand bar end expect it to be G-rated then you need to have your head checked. Its like violence on TV......if you dont like it then change the station!

cigarette1
05-21-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Debbolas
So why are all porn movies soooooo long?
:D
So you don't have to rewind ;)

summerlove
05-21-2004, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
I chose to voice my unsolicited opinion because this censorship problem has gone too far in this so called free nation.
My point, and I will try to make it brief is, If you don’t like the situation in hand, go elsewhere.
Examples:
1) Here in the Los Angeles area there are 30 some odd FM radio stations, Howard Stearn is the host of 97.1 KLSK, in the mornings. His show is very much directed at a mature audience. Definitely not for children. Turn the dial. There are 29 or more stations for you and your family to listen too.
When I'm at the river, I don't have the option of changing the lake, if I'm already there. Besides, if no one told you, the car and your home are private and you can do whatever you like in your home or your car...So to say I can go somewhere else is parochial and a not pertinent to the discussion. Additionally, while your neighbors may love you and your family, and I bet they do, you would not condone activities you feel are infringing on your rights, to live and to recreate.
[/B][/QUOTE] 2) We have Digital Satellite TV, 700 plus channels, of which six of them may have nudity or adult content, not for your family. Change the channel[/B][/QUOTE]
See #1 above.
[/B][/QUOTE] 3) There are many neighborhoods here where drugs and violence are daily lifestyles. If you don’t want to expose your family to this, stay out of their neighborhood. The rest of the state is there for your enjoyment.[/B][/QUOTE]
You are correct. I choose to live in a nice neighborhood without gangs, violence or drugs. I also choose to recreate at a lake that is a state park. I do not expect to have sex parties, drug use, obnoxiously loud music or public drunkeness be a part of my vacation.
[/B][/QUOTE] 4) West Hollywood is designated as a homosexual community, you don’t agree with their lifestyle. You have the rest of the state to enjoy.[/B][/QUOTE]
So, are you saying that all homosexuals should live in WH? Or that heterosexuals can't live there? I guess I understand what you're trying to say, you just didn't do a very good job of saying it.
[/B][/QUOTE] Havasu, and many other lakes have areas, where people gather to do as they please. Whether it is illegal, immoral or disturbing to you and your family, it is what it is.
If you are not happy, there are miles of lake/river for your families’ enjoyment.[/B][/QUOTE]
So, I stand by my other comment that you so vigorously tried to defend. You don't care what happens there - if I don't like it, then I can leave. I'm willing to bet you $100 that while you may relocate to another part of the lake due to obnoxious activity, you'd be pissed about it. It would not be voluntary, especially if you and your family were there enjoying yourselves and a boat full of druinks pulled up and started with the music, f-bombs, etc.
[/B][/QUOTE] My point is you have options as an American. Why do you think you can change other people’s rights and privileges, because you don’t happen to agree with them?[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't want to change anyones rights. I just want the laws upheld. Me and my family have just as much right to enjoy the lake as the next guy.
[/B][/QUOTE] Our government has taken it upon themselves to censor everything we see, hear and live by. Yet another step to removing our rights as a free country.[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't see upholding and enforcing the laws as another step in removing our rights....
[/B][/QUOTE] I personally do not enjoy the so called entertainment at many of these high visited spots. At times they do get way out of hand. But I have the choice to take my family there or find a more suitable place to enjoy the lake with them.[/B][/QUOTE]
And if that activity is so common that the most popular locations on the lake are run over with obnoxious activity, why should I have to leave just so a bunch of a-holes can ruin my day?
[/B][/QUOTE] You or no governing agency is going to tell me I do not have the option or right to visit these areas.[/B][/QUOTE]
That's right! So don't you tell me to go somewhere else.
[/B][/QUOTE] I apologize for the rant. Every year your rights and mine are slowly diminishing. Honestly I’m sick of it.[/B][/QUOTE]
Your right to do what is slowly diminishing? I do not understand? You proclaim to say live and let live, but contradict youself more than once.
[/B][/QUOTE] Hope to meet some of you guys anywhere on the lake. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'll buy you a beer!;)
Now, about that "Old Man" comment - I'm not that old....started going to the lake as a kid :D
Now, Do I make myself clear!

Ziggy
05-21-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
Now, Do I make myself clear!
Yes Dad(w/chin on chest):D LOL--good one Rick.

summerlove
05-21-2004, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
Where in my commentary does it say anything about me encouraging behavior of any type, good or bad?
right here...your quote, not mine.
"Havasu, and many other lakes have areas, where people gather to do as they please. Whether it is illegal, immoral or disturbing to you and your family, it is what it is.
If you are not happy, there are miles of lake/river for your families’ enjoyment."
while you may not specifically 'encourage' you are condoing it by this comment....
Not really trying to stir it up but you really stuck a cord with me...Sorry if it came on strong. I guess the "screw you" comment was a little over the top....;)

summerlove
05-21-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Ziggy
Yes Dad(w/chin on chest):D LOL--good one Rick.
God, I remember when my dad did that to me and I remember that pose all too well! Head down looking at the heels of my shoes! :frown:

No Drama
05-21-2004, 10:03 PM
Not if I buy you one first!
Nice chatting with you and you do make yourself clear!

summerlove
05-21-2004, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
Not if I buy you one first!
Nice chatting with you and you do make yourself clear!
you're on! Just don't be offended when my wife flashes and I turn all 1000 watts up with eminem at the mic! J/K

No Drama
05-21-2004, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by summerlove
you're on! Just don't be offended when my wife flashes and I turn all 1000 watts up with eminem at the mic! J/K
Who's eminem.......you're on!

summerlove
05-21-2004, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by No Drama
Who's eminem.......you're on!
tells you what I know about rap....:confused:

beyondhelpin
05-21-2004, 10:41 PM
Some of you guys need to lighten up.
All places aren't made for all people. There are plenty of places for everybody.
This shit is nothing new. When I lived in SD 5 to 10 years ago the same stuff when on in Copper Canyon. Nothing new. Well maybe the sex acts in the crowds is. That in my opinion is wrong.
On Grand Lake I will avoid Dripping Springs when it is to wild and maybe go to party cove where it is much more sedate when I have the kiddo with me. Why don't you family guys pick out a cove and make it a regular place you can go and try to make it known that it is a PG-13 type party cove? A place where you can party with friends and still have a good time with the kids in tow.
I just got back from South Beach in Florida this week. It is a topless beach. Would I have gone there if my daughter was with me? No! There are plenty of other beaches out there for my family. But we went there with another couple and no kids so I did not have to make any family judgments. Take me where I can see some of the silicon wrapped in skin!
You say respect but some cant even respect another peoples opinions. No Drama, chime in any time you feel like it and don't let anyone tell you different.
Respect my family if they are with me and we are not in a party cove and don't bring the indecency to us. Respect my right to turn up the heat a little if I am in a known party area without my kid and don't impose your morality on me for a little good natured skin exhibits.
I have my limits on what I think about sex on the water though. Wait till it is dark, find a secluded area and bend her over and drive her to Dallas. Sex, pseudo or other wise have have no place in crowds IMHO.
A little common sense and a big helping of respect and everything and will work for everybody.

Rexone
05-21-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by beyondhelpin
A little common sense and a big helping of respect and everything and will work for everybody.
True dat.
too bad both are hard to find in some locales.
if you think about it if everyone excercised both of the above there would be no reason for this thread.

mickeyfinn
05-22-2004, 01:37 AM
I have never been to the sandbar or havasu or any of the other places mentioned in these posts, however we have similar places on the major lakes here on the east coast. I happen to enjoy the tits,ass Hell even watching a chick giving a blow job is cool every now and then. I don't believe you can legislate morality but you can and should enforce laws. (If your not going to enforce them then get rid of them.)
At least here most of the lakes were originally visited by families with very few groups of "partiers" on the water at all. The few areas that were known as "party spots" were places accessible by land and not necessarily easy to access by water. Families basically owned the lakes. The areas that are now considered the "adult" party areas were originally areas that families got together in to enjoy each others company and let the kids play. We have an area here that sounds similar to your sandbar. It was popular with the family crowd because there was a very large area of shallow water that the kids could play in and had plenty of good places to anchor and take care of the boat without damaging it. The right to go somewhere else has been mentioned freqently, okay how do you determine which group is going to move? Seniority? That what is sounds like most are saying. (We were here first!! so if you don't like our adult party then leave seems to be the attitude) Well at least here the family groups were there first, and due to the disrespect shown them by the party crowd they were forced to either leave or stay and have the kids subjected to this behavior. The lakes here are owned by the corp of engineers and the parks are either municipally owned or they are state parks. Most of the behavior being complained about is specifically illegal in the area. (surprise!!!! not allowed in certain areas but just downright prohibited) So what happens is people begin to complain and LE begins to rigorously enforce these laws. Well it turns out that the Families don't necessarily comply with all of the laws either. They may like to discretely have a few beers or Jello shooters too and so the families and the partiers now have lost a favorite place to recreate. Sounds like all most folks are asking is:
1 respect those around you. If you can't have fun without fu cking in front of an audience then you have other problems. Realize that while you may love the music you are listening too others may not like it
2. Learn the difference between fun and indecency.
If you do need that audience while fu cking then go find a deserted beach on the shore, invite some friends to watch and do your things. Take a previously unused section of the lake and turn THAT into your adult party area. Don't run others out of an area they have used for years.

ratso
05-22-2004, 07:11 AM
I like to sit with my stereo blaring and my chick showing her tits while giving me a blow job so these jerk-offs with their unruly children won't show up and act like they don't care as their kids bounce rocks off of my boat and run around yelling and screaming and drowning out the music from my stereo system while losing my hard-on because of the distractions...:D

Shark In The Pond
05-22-2004, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by ratso
I like to sit with my stereo blaring and my chick showing her tits while giving me a blow job so these jerk-offs with their unruly children won't show up and act like they don't care as their kids bounce rocks off of my boat and run around yelling and screaming and drowning out the music from my stereo system while losing my hard-on because of the distractions...:D
Ratso stirring the pot :D

GlastronGuy
05-22-2004, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by ratso
I like to sit with my stereo blaring and my chick showing her tits while giving me a blow job so these jerk-offs with their unruly children won't show up and act like they don't care as their kids bounce rocks off of my boat and run around yelling and screaming and drowning out the music from my stereo system while losing my hard-on because of the distractions...:D
LOL

Debbolas
05-22-2004, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by ratso
I like to sit with my stereo blaring and my chick showing her tits while giving me a blow job so these jerk-offs with their unruly children won't show up and act like they don't care as their kids bounce rocks off of my boat and run around yelling and screaming and drowning out the music from my stereo system while losing my hard-on because of the distractions...:D
OOOOOO
I was thinking about this..........I think anyone performing a sex act in a boat on the channel should be shot with a huge water canon (I know, they are illegal in the channel, so are sex acts)
What are they going to do?
complain?
LOL;)
(unless they have a real gun and shoot you, maybe this isn't such a good idea)
:frown:

Tom Brown
05-22-2004, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by Debbolas
I was thinking about this..........
I've been thinking about it too and have come to the conclusion that Ratso is one classy mofo. :cool:

Debbolas
05-22-2004, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Tom Brown
I've been thinking about it too and have come to the conclusion that Ratso is one classy mofo. :cool:
Took my quote out of context......................kinda!
LOL ;)

beer hunter
05-22-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by sandblasted
Seems like we are arguing 2 different issues here..."Adult party spots" and rude behavior...Personally I'm glad there are a few known spots for "adult behavior" that i can visit if I want and avoid if I choose to....And really there are only a few...
Let's see..There are like 2-3 coves out of a hundred on Lake Mojave that are considered "adult party spots"...Between Bullhead and the sandbar there is only 1 really-"the sandbar"...Down in havasu you have Copper Canyon and the Channel...I mean let's be realistic, the vast majority of "the river' is family friendly...but if you want to have an adult trip you know where the party spots are...Hell, I could spend an entire week on the river and never see a naked boob but if I choose to I know where to go...
Another example I could use is Lake Nacimiento..which I visit at least once a year...There are coves and beaches everywhere, plenty of areas to be by yourself or hang with other families but if you want to get wild there is the "narrows"...Thats one spot out of the entire friggin lake.....
As to the other issue of rude behavior, I can't argue that...Our society in general has become more rude. It's too bad we have to deal with it on the water since I think most of us go boating to get away from that bullshit and relax...
I couldn't agree more! I have two young kids that I don't want them exposed to the sexual and heavy drinking stuff but I know where those types of activities are going on and avoid them when I've got the kids with me.
I do think these lakes need a few areas where adults can play too and as someone else said, there are hundreds of cove/beaches on Havasu and the river that are great for families. :)
MY .02

HighRoller
05-22-2004, 04:53 PM
Okay, so I guess I've been officially bitch slapped by RD. That's okay, I totally missed the facetious tone of his comments, and I apologize to him for that. I might have overrreacted. However, I disagree with the "sanctimonius prick" assertion. I don't think that standing up for decency and common sense makes you sanctimonius or a prick. I haven't done anything to contribute to the problems at Havasu so I have no need to defend my"actions", and I never will. The reason for the strength of my argument is this-Did you ever have a girl that you really loved but you broke up, then when you see her months later you get that queasy feeling in your stomach? Well, that's how I feel about the river and Havasu. I've had so many great times there that it's like a part of my life now and always will be. Now, imagine if you saw that ex girlfriend getting treated like a ***** or raped. You'd be pissed, wouldn't you? It breaks my heart to see what Havasu has become. Instead of being a magical place with natural beauty and man made charm, it's a sleaze pit for the MTV generation to hang out in and act like buffoons, thereby ruining it for those whose sole motivation is enjoying the atmosphere. No, it will never be like it was, but where will this obsession with public indecency end? Will every girl in the channel eventually be subject to gang rape and groping by all the guys? You may laugh, but that's what behavior like this leads to. Once a drunk Ahole sees two girls licking each other, he thinks every girl is like that and he's gonna get some. I bring this topic up once a year just to get an idea of where people stand. Two years ago I almost got flamed off the boards. This year I'm seeing a lot more people who are fed up with those who act only to satisfy their own selfish needs and desires. I hope that trend continues. Rd, now that we've kicked each other in the junk, we can be friends again. No hard feelings and yes, I've already started a thread dealing with the foremost goal for a river trip;DRINKING!

Three Days Only
05-22-2004, 06:40 PM
I just came into this thread, and find it rather intresting. I have been going to Havasu for a number of years, and spent the last 8 weekends there this summer already. Anyone that frequents the lake knows the areas which are inoppreate for young children. When my wife and I bring the kids with us ages 7 & 5 which are most weekends except for Memorial & Labor Day, we avoid these area's in the afternoon. It is common sense that if you do not want your children to see this kind of activity, you need to keep it away from them. It is called parenting some of us are good at it, and some are not. Lake Havasu is one of, if not the largest party lake on the west coast. The same activity has been going on at the same locations since my parents took me there as a kid. If your worried about your children and what they are going to see, move on. Its that simple. We hit the sandbar earlier in the day, when it starts getting busy, we split!!!!
Obviously, your going to the lake for the same reasons as the rest of us. The truth is, if you wanted a relaxing, quite, & serene place you would go elsewhere. Havasu is a busy lake, and attracts people of all differnt backgrounds. I you do not like what is going on there, go somewhere else, god knows there are plenty of other lakes in the US for you to enjoy.
Things can not always go the way we want them to. We need to adjust to our surrondings and show our children whats right and wrong. My children, will never be allowed to sit and watch that type of behavior, becasue I will not put either one of them in the position where they could. It is no sweat of my ass to move and go somewhere else, espically if im parked at the Sand Bar and some hot chick is toungin down on another a few boats down from ours. I say god bless her, but my kids wont see it, cause im leaving!!! No hard feelings towards the chick or the others involved, I wish I could stay and watch but you need to be a parent, when you have your children with you, and save the party for when your without them.
Memorial, we are all going without our kids, you ask why. They do not belong there on memorial day weekend, it is the same craziness every year, and as a parent I feel they do not belong there due to the extra amount of partying that weekend brings into town. Plus im going to party like mutha F'er, and puke on the bow of my boat!!!!
Can you say Yee Haw!!!
Just my .02
PS, Ignore my spelling, I typed this fast. Besides I barely made it through elementary school as it is.

Debbolas
05-22-2004, 06:54 PM
I've posted this story before but your post reminded me of it.......
Our good friends have a house at Havasu and their idea of a good time is to go hang out under the bridge all day. We went with them on Memorial Weekend many years ago. I had no idea what we were getting into. As the day went on and it became apparent how rowdy this place was, I became more nervous.
People were encouraging girls to take their tops off and other people were shooting the boats with water cannons.
My worst fears were realised when a young girl on a boat whipped off her bikini top, right in front of our boat and our girls all under the age of 10.
Then the best thing happened. Right behind the girls boat was a police boat, and they jumped onto her boat and handcuffed her RIGHT THEN AND THERE!!! It turned out to be a great lesson for my girls..........Take off your top and SEE you get arrested.
We avoid the sandbar on weekends and the channel, except to cruise through on our way down to the Dam
We have been at the sandbar when some girls got rowdy down the ways a bit, but we didn't see it. (of course back then getting rowdy was taking your top off, not performing sex acts) I guess we would just leave if we felt uncomfortable.
p.s. Does anyone know of a nude beach down one of the channels? I have heard it is on the AZ side, if you are going from Havasue toward the sandbar, you turn right before you hit the sandbar, very close the the shallow place where sometimes boats get stuck. I ask because a friend of ours had heard of it and we spend many hot minutes at a wakeless speed searching for it........:frown:

Three Days Only
05-22-2004, 08:51 PM
I agree with that post also Debbolas.
Im a parent, and as a parent I choose to go to Havasu, and bring my children. I also understand when things are going on around me that I do not approve of around my children it is time to leave. People just need to be more aware of what is taking place around them, and shelter there children alittle more. It is part of going to the river with kids, If you asked my daughter about Havasu, she will tell you she likes driving in the boat fast, playing in the water and in the sand. Thats exactly the way it is suppose to be, and the way I want to keep it.

HighRoller
05-22-2004, 09:13 PM
3DO, your post really strikes a chord with me. The whole reason I hate what's going on is because my memories of Havasu are so special. I'll never forget stopping at the Sandbar one lazy day about 25 years ago. The water was ankle or knee deep and we kids were looking to have some fun. One of us found a tree branch floating by and another one got a crushed tin can from the boat and we played baseball with them. I never had so much fun as diving into "home plate" in 12 inches of water while laughing my ass off!! Then we'd park under the I-40 bridge at Topock and wave to the train engineers while sitting in the warm shade and eating a homemade sandwich. After that we went back to Crazy Horse and hiked over to the waterslide(yes there was one back then) where we proceeded to remove several layers of skin on the unpolished concrete while seeing how many kids we could get in a "train"!! Do you think you'd rather have your kid experience that Havasu, or the Havasu of today?

haulina29
05-22-2004, 09:26 PM
I have in my office pictures of me and my brother standing in the channel before the water was cut in . Anybody who says Havasu has been like this for a long time is full of shit period . I can remeber staying there for days on end in the sixties and early seventies and not seeing any other boats . When Palm Springs shut down spring break the crowd rolled to Havasu . Havasu used to be a family place and it wasnt that long ago . :rolleyes:

HighRoller
05-22-2004, 11:21 PM
Another person who remembers the good ol' days! I remember cruising through the channel, any day of the week, any time of the day, and being lucky to see another boat. There were no houses up on the hill, maybe two gas stations and one supermarket. When Hussong's Cantina opened it was like a major event. I guess that place is Larry's Mexican now, or something like it. The only thing the same from when I went there in High School is Reflections at the Ramada. We were 18 and snuck in, then were "escorted" out when my friend "couldn't find" his ID!

Hal
05-23-2004, 12:48 AM
I have to agree with HR. Havasu is growing and the locals will soon over rule the derelicts. Then all that crap will come to a halt. Havasu will not need the money the derelicts bring in and I am sure with the continued growth of Havasu they will soon have the money(law enforcement) to put a stop to bullshit that is going on now. That will just screw it up for everyone. Then where in So Cal are you going to find a lake to go boating(like there are a lot of lakes in So Cal) just to have fun? Fun to me me is just enjoying being on the lake, having some drinks,being with friends,having a good time and doing what ever but don't **** it up for everbody. Personaly I will not impose on anyone its just not my way. To all the derelicts just keep it up and none us will have a place to go. I have been drinking tonight so take that in concideration? when reading this. I really think if this type of behavior keeps up there will be no more channel or sandbar to go to for the out of towners to enjoy. Which will probably screw it up for the locals to.
"Quote"
jbtrailerjim I couldnt agree more whats with the dyk fests ? the channel is not the place for a dildo show keep it in the room . Nothing wrong with a nice lady in a swim suit or tastefull pasties or tee back but come on some of these broads need a little guidance lol Another trend is all the older married women hanging all over each other like sluts lmao getta life.
Like more than a few people have said, just have some respect for the people around you that are just trying to have a good time without the lesbos and loud music.
If you gotta do what you gotta do then you should go find one of those coves you tell everyone else to go to and use that for your party. Let the familys and the locals have their channel and sandbar and then we may be able to enjoy the Lake for a few more years. It might save Lake Havasu for a place your kids can go to for a good time in the future.
Think about it, if this keeps up like is now someones going to pull the plug and its all gone. Remember when you could get out of your car at a drive in and mingle with your friends (in the 70s). You can't do that now. Thats how Lake Havasu will be if we keep up what we are doing now. So why not find a cove and move the party down the lake a little and let the families have their fun. It may help us to have a place to go for few more years without intruding on other people. Please forgive me if I pissed anyone off. I did'nt mean to. Thats the way I feel about it.

HighRoller
05-23-2004, 01:09 AM
I agree with JB...what's with all the pseudo rug munching? So you're 44 years old and bought some bolt-ons and now you need to kiss another older skank for some reason? I'm lost here...somebody help me understand! What about that scene should turn us on?

HammerDown
05-23-2004, 02:58 AM
I don't understand the opinons of those that feel ANY public place (sandbar/beaches etc) is in fact a perfect place for sexual activity, and that they have the right to conduct themselves in such a manner.
How could someone say, "well if you don't want to see it don't go there"! Their wrong...not the person/family just looking to have a nice day on the water. H
Have a little respect for the people around you...Keep that activity in your Home, not out in the public eye.

DansBlown73Nordic
05-23-2004, 03:19 AM
That picture is something....Holy Shit. Of course I have never been to any of these places, but by the way it sounds I better pack my bags......:p

Debbolas
05-23-2004, 09:25 AM
Sex Acts on Boat in Public = Water/Potato Canon
:D

Three Days Only
05-24-2004, 08:14 AM
The fact is, it is what it is. Everything has changed since the seventies. The hole party mentality and what is frequenting the lakes is completely different now compared to then. There was still nudity just not as provocative. Who else here owned a hat that said Ski Naked / Colorado River, my parents did from back in the mid 70's. No one can change what it has become, It is just working with what is there now, and still enjoying yourself, and keeping your children sheltred from inoppropreate behavior. We still have a blast every weekend were there. My kids still see it the same way you did. Playing in the sand, running around with there friends, there memories will and would be the same as yours, thats due to there innocence, and our parenting. Times change and so do people, so make the best of it, and enjoy the river for what it is today. If you cant enjoy it, and can not adapt to deal with what goes on there now. Thats pretty sad, the rest of us have figured out a way to do so, and im sure you could too.

Dorkboat
05-24-2004, 09:06 AM
I as a new member and a long time river riderI have one thing to say about the ladies and there sexual behavior. AND I SAY BRING IT ON IF YA DONT LIKE DONT GO THERE. The river and all its wonders should be enjoyed by those of us that enjoy everything life has to offer. I love seeing ladies in all there splendor weather it be skimpy or nuthing at all weather its bearing all or a string. show it to me babby

Three Days Only
05-24-2004, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by Dorkboat
I as a new member and a long time river riderI have one thing to say about the ladies and there sexual behavior. AND I SAY BRING IT ON IF YA DONT LIKE DONT GO THERE. The river and all its wonders should be enjoyed by those of us that enjoy everything life has to offer. I love seeing ladies in all there splendor weather it be skimpy or nuthing at all weather its bearing all or a string. show it to me babby
Thats why im not taking my kids memorial day. Im partyin like a rockstar!!!!!

HCS
05-24-2004, 10:57 AM
I like nude beaches myself.:rolleyes:

Ducatista
05-24-2004, 11:24 AM
p.s. Does anyone know of a nude beach down one of the channels? I have heard it is on the AZ side, if you are going from Havasue toward the sandbar, you turn right before you hit the sandbar, very close the the shallow place where sometimes boats get stuck. I ask because a friend of ours had heard of it and we spend many hot minutes at a wakeless speed searching for it........
That sounds like Disneyland by your location description, but it's just a nice family hideout off the river with some nice sand dunes. I've never seen any nude beach kinda action back there, with the exception of my center cudy...lol:wink:

unleashed
05-24-2004, 11:27 AM
If you are offended by:
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2491-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2492-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/249a6.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/249l15-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/510/249unleash5-med.JPG
Or this
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/502/249uu4-med.JPG
Than stay the f*ck home!:D
I myself will force myself to indure these so called evils of Havasu. Wish me luck! :p
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:

CA Stu
05-24-2004, 11:28 AM
Didn't Sundance used to have that houseboat floating up and down the river with naked boobies everywhere?
What happened to watching the wet t-shirt contest while floating in front of the bar?
I reckon that qualifies as "art" rather than "pornography".
How about this: Whoever gets to a spot first determines the rating of that spot ( G, PG, R, XXX)
Don't pull up next to me and my family while we're having a nice picnic on the beach and start banging yourself on the bow while cranking filthy rap, and I won't beach next to you and start cranking the theme from Barney while you are reenacting Caligula.
I'm with 3DO, too. Going with the lads, leaving Mama and the brood at home for Mem. Day. Look out!!
Cheers
CA Stu

Three Days Only
05-24-2004, 11:51 AM
Once again, I always miss the good shit. Must be because I got the kids with me, Uh Duhhhh!
Look out next weekend, Im looking for sluts with tight little butts, that like to suck and lick other chicks. Im drinkin till I puke on Unleashed's bow now!!!! He got that Magic Eraser thing to clean it up.
Party at Death Row, Please dont forget about the first ever starting up of old sparky (electricuation) on Friday night. Two of our boys are going down.
I was trying to explain this too everyone lightly, Havasu is what you make of it for your family.
This weekend, I hope its a disaster area with drunk naked chicks, licking each other showing me the beauty which lies downunder.

Ducatista
05-24-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by unleashed
If you are offended by:
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2491-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2492-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/249a6.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/249l15-med.JPG
This
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/510/249unleash5-med.JPG
Or this
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/502/249uu4-med.JPG
Than stay the f*ck home!:D
I myself will force myself to indure these so called evils of Havasu. Wish me luck! :p
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:
Three words come to mind when I viewed those six pictures.............."GOD BLESS AMERICA" :)

hot_diggity_dog
05-24-2004, 12:08 PM
Hey Deano please do not post these type of pictures on ***boat.
Post them over here BRO!!!!!!
Havasu's finest pictures on the net!!!!! (http://www.riverratlife.com/forums/board/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=2)
Hot (Like's hanging with Deano and the Ladies) Diggity Dog;) :D

unleashed
05-24-2004, 12:15 PM
Im sorry HDD did I O-ffend you(As Major Payne would say it). Hey try to control your Skanky dogs! I can't believe what the river has come to these days!:D
Oh say can you see!(For Ducatista)
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:

hot_diggity_dog
05-24-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by unleashed
Im sorry HDD did I O-ffend you(As Major Payne would say it). Hey try to control your Skanky dogs! I can't believe what the river has come to these days!:D
Oh say can you see!(For Ducatista)
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:
I just didn't want you to get a bad name for being the instigator for this type of behavior.:p
HDD:cool:

OutCole'd
05-24-2004, 12:39 PM
I'm just offended I wasn't there.

ROZ
05-24-2004, 02:16 PM
I agree with a little everyone has said. Especially the exchange TTT and MFV had on the 2nd or 3rd page, and a few of SL's comments. I'm all for the sandbar, copper canyon, and the other place's peeps go to hedonize, but I think that the channel should be cooled down a bit and the law should be enforced. That means that thongs, pasties, alcohol, and partying is good, but actual sex acts (unless committed under bow) should not happen in the channel. It's a major tourist area.... If I'm not mistaken there is a pretty large park (with playgrounds) and shops near by...

Scream
05-24-2004, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Ducatista
p.s. Does anyone know of a nude beach down one of the channels? I have heard it is on the AZ side, if you are going from Havasue toward the sandbar, you turn right before you hit the sandbar, very close the the shallow place where sometimes boats get stuck. I ask because a friend of ours had heard of it and we spend many hot minutes at a wakeless speed searching for it........
That sounds like Disneyland by your location description, but it's just a nice family hideout off the river with some nice sand dunes. I've never seen any nude beach kinda action back there, with the exception of my center cudy...lol:wink:
That sounds like it. The one thing I remember there was that it was hotter than hell, about 15 or 20 degrees more than the rest of the river, lots of party peeps, no shows goin on, and lots of sand...
I'm pretty sure we've not been back there because it was so hot. Even the water was hot if I remember, but it's been years. Might have to do a reconnoiter during OP6C
Scream <---- helpin out the little woman

LOWRIVER2
05-24-2004, 05:47 PM
Funny thread, this general issue seems to always pop up around this time of year, always a different spot in the debate.
Anyways, It's funny to see Repo Man and everyone think that parks in South Los Angeles are dangerous. Anyone who actually works there (13 years), knows the crime is'nt in the parks, it's on the major streets such as Figueroa, Broadway, Main, San Pedro. Our guys have made parks safe as they're easy to bust idiots when the big lights spot light their activities at night. As for residential streets, stay off Grape, Success, Hoover, Anzac and any of the avenues (4-12th) and you'll live. Would like to see Repo man in action on those streets, curious if he's pulled one from there recently/lol
And if you're gonna label South Central, let's get the borders straight: North line is Washington Blvd. East edge is Long Beach Blvd., West border is La Brea and south border is Rosecrans/ Alondra depending on the area.
And for the very generalized Lurker, remember that many people who live in South Central ( a very violent area compared to other places) don't live there by choice. Believe or not Lurker, they can't afford to live anywhere else and are law abiding people who did'nt have the benefit of a better deal at life like the rest of us, so don't write them off with an equation that just because they can't live in a safer area=that means they chose to be there.
As for a free country, I say, "yes, that's true", but be man enough to face the consequences if " the man" comes down on you. Everything has a price in life. Just be able to handle the "payment" and live as you choose.
My question to all of this: Why are'nt the families actually BOATING on the lake and not PARKED on a sand bar? I boat south of Parker Strip and in my area there seems to be a lot less kids water sking than in the past. Get the kids active skiing, tubing and less hanging out around the boat. You could'nt pull me out of the water when I was 10-15, I just wanted to be pulled by the boat, or jumping off a rock somewhere near Black Meadows, Sandpoint, Cattail Cove, etc. Get the kids active and healthy and there won't be time to stop and run into any adult stuff out there. Hey, it's just an opinion, not an answer or order, I save those for HH.

Moe_Havi
05-25-2004, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by ratso
I like to sit with my stereo blaring and my chick showing her tits while giving me a blow job so these jerk-offs with their unruly children won't show up and act like they don't care as their kids bounce rocks off of my boat and run around yelling and screaming and drowning out the music from my stereo system while losing my hard-on because of the distractions...:D
That't kinda funny but really true. What really pisses me off is that I usually go to Mohave 10-15 miles north of cottonwood if you know where that is. Pretty remote, so my wife and I can get away from our kides for a couple days, relax, blast the tunes, she can tan the buns. There is literally nobody around, there are 20 coves just like the one I'm in and this bozo comes rolling in with his family and the asshole pulls his boat about 50 feet away and he says something stupid like, "my kids like to jump off that cliff over there". Christ, my wife has to jump up and get dressed, I'm bullsh#t! I say to my wife that we should start screwing so these assholes will leave. All I can say is that most people out there in the middle of nowhere, definatly myself included, when I'm looking for a cove to hang in, if I pull in and see anybody there then I'm gone. Why would I want to pull up next to a bunch of strangers? There are plenty of places. Same thing this March. March for christ sakes...during the week, Nice white sandy beech at mile 9 at Mohave, not a soul around and this old geezer and his wife pull up. I get bull again, start pulling my anchor up and the old prick says "where are you guys going"? Maybe he just wanted someone else to hang around with besides his wife. Does this happen to you guys?
Moe

mbrown2
05-25-2004, 08:49 AM
Would this make you leave your favorite spot?
Havasu Pics from Last weekend... (http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47921) :confused: :cool: :D

TheLurker
05-25-2004, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by LOWRIVER2
And for the very generalized Lurker, remember that many people who live in South Central ( a very violent area compared to other places) don't live there by choice. Believe or not Lurker, they can't afford to live anywhere else and are law abiding people who did'nt have the benefit of a better deal at life like the rest of us, so don't write them off with an equation that just because they can't live in a safer area=that means they chose to be there.
Now I havent even posted on this thread and i'm being drug into it.
I need to get a new name!

1stepcloser
05-25-2004, 09:23 AM
The times are changing, for good or bad. So is the lake.
This weekend will be interesting, as I think it will set a new precedent (http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47920) for the channel as we know it.

Jordy
05-25-2004, 09:52 AM
OK, after skimming through this thread I've realized a few things right off:
#1: Need to party with Deano more. :D
#2: There was a few mentions of stereos with 1000 watts? Who the hell only runs 1000 watts. You shouldn't turn it up if your not pounding at least 4 times that.
#3: Need to party with Deano more. :D
#4: Havasu is big enough for everyone. Much like Glamis, you can find whatever you're looking for. If you're offended by hot chicks, loud music, pasties and the like, find another spot. That's like going to the hill at Glamis at night and getting pissed because you tried to ride through the trenches and got sand kicked on ya when you got stuck. You knew what it was about but you did it anyway. Deal with it.
Even at my favorite little local lake the beach is broken up into two halves by a big section of reeds. The west side is the family side. Go have a good time with the kids and build sand castles there. The east side is the party side. If you don't like it, then move over to the west side. Seems to work out very well. :D

unleashed
05-25-2004, 10:11 AM
Jordy, we'll be in Havasu this weekend(Mini-sandbar). If you are around come on out! Not sure about OP6 yet. I will have to check the liver to see if it could handle 2 big weekends!
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:

Jordy
05-25-2004, 10:12 AM
We're doing the Parker thing this weekend, then running up to Havasu and dropping the boat off for next weekend OP6 so I don't have to drag it all over the place. If we're up there early enough, we might play on the water for a while and look for ya. You need to come out to OP6 though. Should be a hell of a good time. :D

Mighty Thor
11-08-2004, 10:03 PM
I can't believe I read all of these posts and have not seen anyone mention the obvious solution. It's water right? And here in Montana we use the hose to calm down enthusiastic dogs, cats, studs. bulls, and kids. So get your self a super soaker. Next time you are interupted by anti social behavior of the boat next to you engage in a little good spirited water fight. After all, what boater could object to a little water fun.

Some Kind Of Monster
11-08-2004, 10:05 PM
I can't believe I read all of these posts and have not seen anyone mention the obvious solution. It's water right? And here in Montana we use the hose to calm down enthusiastic dogs, cats, studs. bulls, and kids. So get your self a super soaker. Next time you are interupted by anti social behavior of the boat next to you engage in a little good spirited water fight. After all, what boater could object to a little water fun.
I still like the idea of connecting a large hose to the back of a jet and getting on the throttle. You could knock someone clear off their boat. HEHE :devil:

Mighty Thor
11-08-2004, 10:07 PM
For even more fun, a diaphram pump and a fire nozlle can be very handy. Amunition is endless with an intake over the side.

bigkatboat
11-09-2004, 08:57 PM
"Unleashed", I am offended! Get that 'fat guy' out of the picture, he is wrecking the view! I do think this small group (posting here) can start a change for the better. If we can all agree that the 'channel' should be the 'most mellow zone', and the 'sandbar' is the most 'porno- zone', steamboat could be the (monster stereo) 'sound zone', then we (adults) would know what to expect. I must point out that I do not like kids! I've never had kids, I don't want to 'hang out' with kids, and I think kids don't want to hang out with me. BUT KIDS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE KIDS AT THE RIVER! I feel the 'adult' behavior in the presents of kids is TOTALLY WRONG! If WE, use common RESPECT for our fellow boater, this problem could be solved this summer. Those who do not respect others in this "desire" to control ourselves, will feel outside of the 'group', or just be so far off base that they get arrested. Our interaction with each other is the starting point for a "trend" in 'Havasu Hot Spots', and what is accepted in each spot. "Often I am listening to 'Don't Worry Be Happy', and someone parks next to us with 'Guns and Roses' blazing". At 'Steamboat'(the stereo zone), I would have no recourse however, in the channel, I would be justified if I got out my flare gun and 'tossed' a round into the offending boat. I would never try 'floating' in "speed alley" and most would agree that it should not be done. As a 'famous American' once said, "Cann't we all just get along?" !!!!

Kilrtoy
09-04-2005, 03:06 AM
I'm amazed at the sentiment some people have about public indecency and overall bad behavior in public. It's gotten so bad that people are ragging on other people for bringing their kids to the Sandbar. Well, let me ask you this; Why the hell shouldn't someone be able to enjoy a public place with their kids? Yeah, I know what goes on there, but isn't that the problem? I'm so sick of hearing people whine all week on here about how the channel might be restricted, or how the Sandbar is closed on big weekends. Then those same people go there that weekend and sit in the channel with their engine running to power the stereo before heading up to the sandbar to watch drunk skanks pull a train. My point is, why is it the responsibility of decent people to change their behavior so that indecency can be accomodated? There's no sign at Havasu that advertises it as a strip bar or public sex palace, it's a lake! A public setting with rules and laws in place for the protection and consideration of ALL who use it, not just one group. On one hand you have people who just want to have a good time with their kids and who wouldn't disturb anyone. These are obviously the bad people, and must be gotten rid of because on the other hand you have people who encourage, participate in or attract sleazy behavior, drugs, prostitution, fighting and even gunplay. (Yes, these have all happened at Havasu)These are the people who must have the right to do whatever they want wherever they want whether it's legal or not and you better take your children elsewhere if you don't like it. I think I know which crowd I'd rather have parked next to me at the Sandbar.
What is your point, you dont even have a boat, So is this from stories you have read or what.... :hammer2:

Jrocket
09-04-2005, 07:00 AM
Kilr...bored or just raising your post count?

Biglue
09-04-2005, 08:38 AM
I take my wife and kids out to the river never had an issue with any of the shit HR talked about. We're on the water by 8 in the morning and guess what? YOu have the whole f'n place to yourselves. The sandbar is all yours. It's actually nice and peaceful out there. When the party scene arrives I leave because I know that there is going to be stuff I don't want to expose my kids to. By then we have enjoyed the place for 3 hours or so. There is always other places to hang at and I know this. I'm not going to walk up to a drunken crowd and tell them to knock it off. They will more than likely get pissed and I wind up with my ass kicked. Common sense tells you this.
Maybe HR you should take it upon yourself to walk up to the drunken party crowd and demand they stop immediately because you shouldn't have to leave. Maybe they will solve your problem for you. :D
Just don't approach me and my friends when it's a dudes trip. :D

Debbolas
09-04-2005, 08:49 AM
Wow, you had to bump a THREAD where I agreed with highroller..............THANKS :notam:

Biglue
09-04-2005, 08:51 AM
Wow, you had to bump a THREAD where I agreed with highroller..............THANKS :notam:
Sorry. :D
Come on now, why would you agree with him? You know that Havasu is known for a little bit of everything. Especially partying. When you have your little ones with you should find another place to hang out. It's plain as day to me. :devil:
Great looking pup BTW. I have a 3 year old yellow lab.

Jyruiz
09-04-2005, 08:53 AM
I only hit the sandbar when I am with my friends, when it is a family weekend, we go to a cove and just chill. I know it would suck to leave a place where you are having a good time, but you got to do it for the children. Maybe we should find a cove and designated "family cove" what do you guys think?

Biglue
09-04-2005, 08:54 AM
I only hit the sandbar when I am with my friends, when it is a family weekend, we go to a cove and just chill. I know it would suck to leave a place where you are having a good time, but you got to do it for the children. Maybe we should find a cove and designated "family cove" what do you guys think?
It's what I've been saying myself bro.

Debbolas
09-04-2005, 08:54 AM
Sorry. :D
Come on now, why would you agree with him? You know that Havasu is known for a little bit of everything. Especially partying. When you have your little ones with you should find another place to hang out. It's plain as day to me. :devil:
Great looking pup BTW. I have a 3 year old yellow lab.
Don't you think there are ENOUGH pissing contests going on here? :rolleyes:
I don't think we need another one :p
P.S. that was an OLD post before I had even been to OP6 :rollside:
My pup is named Blondie and she will be four months in a couple of weeks, I need to post some new pics. She is smart, knows 4 tricks already:D

Biglue
09-04-2005, 08:58 AM
Don't you think there are ENOUGH pissing contests going on here? :rolleyes:
I don't think we need another one :p
P.S. that was an OLD post before I had even been to OP6 :rollside:
My pup is named Blondie and she will be four months in a couple of weeks, I need to post some new pics. She is smart, knows 4 tricks already:D
Holy Christ your right. I didn't realize how old this thread, and yes there is plenty pissing contests around here but that's part of the fun. :D
4 tricks huh? Good going. Unfortunately I don't make as much time as I used to with my dog anymore. She's basically become my kids playmate.

rivercrazy
09-07-2005, 08:22 AM
Kudo's out to Highroller for having the confidence and guts to put his opinion up. I tend to agree with the majority of it.
Society today has become increasingly "attention whorish". Look at me look at me. That is OK to a point. But when more of the extreme behavior impacts everyone's ability to enjoy a public venue, that is where the line should be drawn.
What cracks me up the most is parents should be setting an example for morality and ethics for their kids - THROUGH THEIR ACTIONS. But when the kids aren't around some peeps tend to run around like 18 year old college students and behave like what they are teaching their kids not to be like (i.e. public indecency, pesudo lesibian acts, public nudity, etc). In other words hypocrisy. No wonder why kids today are so confused. Society has become "all about me and what I want" with no regard for anyone else.

Vada
09-07-2005, 08:27 AM
This is just crazy

lucky
09-07-2005, 08:38 AM
if one chooses to take a kid to a place Where there is KNOW questionable behavior - then it becomes their " action " and they must be held accountable
much as if the law comes to such location and and "cleans up " the lawless !
they are accountable for there actions --
ahh 20 years and the next generation of boating will be quite interesting to hear ...
" I remember when i was at the sand bar these two milfs where making out .. I was 5 - life was good back in the day :)

Sherpa
09-07-2005, 08:45 AM
There is a similar problem at my bro-inlaws bar on the delta. I'm sure most
norcal folk know Lost Isle.....
The San Juaquin sherriff's department has been trying to close-down the Isle
for years........ Bro says it's all the skanky hookers from the valley causing
the "serious: issues with nudity, etc.....
let's face it: 95% of the crowd at lost isle is early 20's thru mid 30's... and
it's 80% guys....... the 10% girls that show up are either: girlfreinds of guys
there, wives, or just hanging out having fun girls. the 2% girls that either
prostitute from houseboats beached at the isle, or willing to "do" things
on their boats are the problem.......
and of course having most of the people lit on mai-tai's doesn't exactly
help the impression of the LEO's watching the place.
--Sherpa

***boateditor
09-07-2005, 09:21 AM
Society today has become increasingly "attention whorish". Look at me look at me.
What an absurd, asinine statement. I couldn't disagree more strongly. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
Incidentally...look at me! Look at me! :D
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2898***boateditor-med.jpg

76ANTHONY
09-07-2005, 09:23 AM
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, my eyes
no more hbeditior photos please :smile: :cry:

rivercrazy
09-07-2005, 09:26 AM
But you don't have two hot married chicks in that picture with you pretending to be lesbians....You need to elevate your "look at me" game. What's wrong with you anyway? LOL! :D:D:D

LAFD
09-07-2005, 09:35 AM
Place your hands out in front of you, palms down.
Extend your thumbs towards each other until they touch.
Extend you little fingers straight out away from your body.
Curl all other fingers under.
You now have a fully functioning set of "Butt Calipers". Anybody who cannot fit their butt (or at minimum, waist) inside this device, has no business wearing a thong.
haha butt calipers. that right there is funny. but true.

91nordic29
09-07-2005, 10:22 AM
What is your point, you dont even have a boat, So is this from stories you have read or what.... :hammer2:
teeeheeeheee. that is EXACTLY what i ws thinking. :cool:

***boateditor
09-07-2005, 11:24 AM
What color nail polish are you wearing?
Auburn Primrose.

ThongMagnet
09-07-2005, 01:25 PM
Some of you still don't get the point!!!! I am a private pilot that used to be able to fly over the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (air space was shutdown). I am a boater that used to be able to powerboat in the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (no power boats allowed). True, enviromentalist convinced the fed's to adopt these laws.
There is a group lobbying to close down the river between the I-40 bridge and Lake Havasu. This will probable happen sooner than later. No more gorge, no more sandbar, no more heading up river on an adventure. Yes, the push is on to close the river as we know it.
If you don't believe me just start asking around. It might be as soon as next year.

Debbolas
09-07-2005, 01:29 PM
What an absurd, asinine statement. I couldn't disagree more strongly. Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.
Incidentally...look at me! Look at me! :D
http://www2.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/2898***boateditor-med.jpg
Dude, why are you wearing "The Masks" p.j.s? :wink:
Don't get me wrong, it's a good look for you, not many editors would be able to pull that off:D

wanna B V
09-07-2005, 01:48 PM
Thongmagnet, where is this info coming from?? And how the heck could they close off the river just short of building a dam??? Im not doubting you, just curious where its coming from.

***boateditor
09-07-2005, 01:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, it's a good look for you, not many editors would be able to pull that off:D
Speaking of things editors could pull off, how's that bikini top of yours? :)

Debbolas
09-07-2005, 02:00 PM
Speaking of things editors could pull off, how's that bikini top of yours? :)
lol :wink:
NO, your suppose to tease me about my about my sunglasses (they're ancient)

ROZ
09-07-2005, 02:02 PM
This is just crazy
Just call him Crazy, Rivercrazy.... :D

unleashed
09-07-2005, 02:14 PM
Some of you still don't get the point!!!! I am a private pilot that used to be able to fly over the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (air space was shutdown). I am a boater that used to be able to powerboat in the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (no power boats allowed). True, enviromentalist convinced the fed's to adopt these laws.
There is a group lobbying to close down the river between the I-40 bridge and Lake Havasu. This will probable happen sooner than later. No more gorge, no more sandbar, no more heading up river on an adventure. Yes, the push is on to close the river as we know it.
If you don't believe me just start asking around. It might be as soon as next year.
Where are you getting this info??? If true we could conterattack with our own lobby group??? Plenty of boatowners, local Havi businesss, laughlin, bullhead etc.
Deano
Unleashedclothing (http://www.unleashedclothing.com) :devil:

ThongMagnet
09-07-2005, 02:14 PM
The same way they keep us from going too close to the dam. Ropes and signs. Lake Mead has them already in place for at least a decade, to keep powerboaters from accessing the Grand Canyon/Colorado river just upstream from Meadview area. The same can happen quickly at Havasu for the cost of a couple Thousand dollars. I heard it second hand through a friend that knows one of the congressmen who is being solicited through a lobbying group. I think all lobbist have to register, so that would be a starting point. This is what happens when law enforcement throw their hands up in defeat. :cry:

SummitKarl
09-07-2005, 02:16 PM
Some of you still don't get the point!!!! I am a private pilot that used to be able to fly over the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (air space was shutdown). I am a boater that used to be able to powerboat in the Grand Canyon. Now I am not (no power boats allowed). True, enviromentalist convinced the fed's to adopt these laws.
There is a group lobbying to close down the river between the I-40 bridge and Lake Havasu. This will probable happen sooner than later. No more gorge, no more sandbar, no more heading up river on an adventure. Yes, the push is on to close the river as we know it.
If you don't believe me just start asking around. It might be as soon as next year.
all the more reason to join and support the Sahara club, we are autorized to shoot Seirra Club members on sight. :smile:

HM
09-07-2005, 11:09 PM
What is your point, you dont even have a boat, So is this from stories you have read or what.... :hammer2:
If I remember right....he had an Eliminator bowrider at the time.
I think you two need to get a room.
:boxingguy

HighRoller
09-07-2005, 11:24 PM
Yup, you're right HM. I've had several boats. Been going to Havasu since I was barely old enough to walk. I moved here the first time because it was a lifelong dream to live next to the river I loved so much. I don't have to prove anything to any "Johnny Come Lately" types....no matter how expensive their boats are or how much plastic surgery their wife has had. It's all about the river for me. It's all about attention for them. End of story. :notam:

HighRoller
09-07-2005, 11:30 PM
BTW, thank you to KilrToy. I heard this thread was voted one of the top 10 2004 HB.com threads. I appreciate the fact you cared about me enough to bring it back and show everyone why it was so popular.

Kilrtoy
09-07-2005, 11:38 PM
Yup, you're right HM. I've had several boats. Been going to Havasu since I was barely old enough to walk. I moved here the first time because it was a lifelong dream to live next to the river I loved so much. I don't have to prove anything to any "Johnny Come Lately" types....no matter how expensive their boats are or how much plastic surgery their wife has had. It's all about the river for me. It's all about attention for them. End of story. :notam:
No you moved their to avoid the law and cook up some meth....
See there you go again talking about YOUR dream boat, Oh wait you deleted that thread because I caught you dreamin about my boat....
Plastic surgery. If you could afford it you get that shit fixed and alot more....
Next....
Its about the river, Is that what Washington St. was called last year.... :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

Kilrtoy
09-07-2005, 11:39 PM
Been going to Havasu since I was barely old enough to walk.:
So when does the diaper come off, cuz Im tried off wiping your ass every day....

HighRoller
09-07-2005, 11:42 PM
Blah Blah Blah.... The more you talk, the dumber you look...is that possible?

Kilrtoy
09-07-2005, 11:43 PM
Blah Blah Blah.... The more you talk, the dumber you look...is that possible?
Oh and Im rubber and you are glue...
Come on is that the best you have....
go back read some more joke books and come back in a year or two once you have polished up and polished off a few to my wife.... or should I say a few more times.....

Kilrtoy
09-07-2005, 11:54 PM
HR ,
you have been reading this thread for 11 minutes and can't even come up with a happy face..
Well im off to sleep who knows what i'll dream about, But I already know, you're dreams and fanasties, my boat and wife..
Now when you wake its gonna still be that sea creature your with and still boatless.
Good night ladies....
that is you Hr and your sea creature.....

HighRoller
09-08-2005, 12:21 AM
We all know you're not asleep. Mrs Ed isn't satisfied with "little smokey" anymore so you're on the couch rubbing one out to old episodes of Mr Ed thinking of her. Big teeth...big ass...WILBURRRRRRR!!!!!!!

whoya
09-08-2005, 07:42 AM
The river was ALWAYS a family place in the past. This generation of boaters have no respect for others rights and the gorge WILL probably get closed one day. It was not a Wildlife Refuge in days past and you could actually water ski though there but was closed for the enviroment, too much commotion going on for the animals to come down to get a drink they said, which was nothing compared to today. The boats are bigger,faster and there are more of them, the boats back then didn't have stereos blasting like they do today either. Havasu and the river used to be a very peaceful place, now all party people that go tell you "if you don't like what we do stay away". Well no wonder us Az. people have a problem with Californains coming over to Az.

Havasu_Dreamin
09-08-2005, 07:47 AM
Well no wonder us Az. people have a problem with Californains coming over to Az.
Please don't put all of us in the same boat, so to speak. Some of us from CA have problems with the "you don't like what you see, phuck you, go somewhre else" crowd.

Havasu_Dreamin
09-08-2005, 07:51 AM
The same way they keep us from going too close to the dam. Ropes and signs. Lake Mead has them already in place for at least a decade, to keep powerboaters from accessing the Grand Canyon/Colorado river just upstream from Meadview area. The same can happen quickly at Havasu for the cost of a couple Thousand dollars. I heard it second hand through a friend that knows one of the congressmen who is being solicited through a lobbying group. I think all lobbist have to register, so that would be a starting point. This is what happens when law enforcement throw their hands up in defeat. :cry:
Ok, that's little weak, IMHO, in terms of how you "know" or "heard" what is going on.

lucky
09-08-2005, 07:53 AM
The river was ALWAYS a family place in the past. This generation of boaters have no respect for others rights and the gorge WILL probably get closed one day. It was not a Wildlife Refuge in days past and you could actually water ski though there but was closed for the enviroment, too much commotion going on for the animals to come down to get a drink they said, which was nothing compared to today. The boats are bigger,faster and there are more of them, the boats back then didn't have stereos blasting like they do today either. Havasu and the river used to be a very peaceful place, now all party people that go tell you "if you don't like what we do stay away". Well no wonder us Az. people have a problem with Californains coming over to Az.
arz girls have nice titties too :idea:

whoya
09-08-2005, 08:18 AM
Your right HD I Sorry that I grouped all Califorinains in one bag, thats pretty much how all Az people see it though because thats where most of the problems on the river come from. People come here to their homes and party all night, loud music, kids screaming and this is our home, our neighborhood not a campground, not in the middle of the desert, some of us have to get up in the morning to go to work.

Havasu_Dreamin
09-08-2005, 08:55 AM
Your right HD I Sorry that I grouped all Califorinains in one bag, thats pretty much how all Az people see it though because thats where most of the problems on the river come from. People come here to their homes and party all night, loud music, kids screaming and this is our home, our neighborhood not a campground, not in the middle of the desert, some of us have to get up in the morning to go to work.
Oh, I hear you on all of that. Believe me, I do. Wish I could help recitfy the situation, but as Rc said, it's mroe of a product of the current me generation and the society they, and we, have allowed to perpetuate.

Vada
09-08-2005, 09:12 AM
I think everybody should leave :mad:

atomickitn
09-08-2005, 09:15 AM
I think everybody should leave :mad:
what about you ? :D

***boateditor
09-08-2005, 09:15 AM
I think everybody should leave :mad:
I think everybody should loave. :cool:
Brett Bayne
Morningtown Bakery

***boateditor
09-08-2005, 09:18 AM
Well im off to sleep who knows what i'll dream about, But I already know, you're dreams and fanasties, my boat and wife..
OMG! That wife dream is also the same one I have every single night! What are the odds???
BB

Vada
09-08-2005, 09:19 AM
what about you ? :D
Well....I'm special!

atomickitn
09-08-2005, 09:21 AM
Well....I'm special!
ohhhhh how special? short bus special! or realy hot ,special???? :D

Vada
09-08-2005, 09:22 AM
Smokin' hot special :p

atomickitn
09-08-2005, 09:23 AM
Smokin' hot special :p
we want proof!!!!!! :D

Vada
09-08-2005, 09:26 AM
:rollside:

atomickitn
09-08-2005, 09:31 AM
:rollside:
oh honey you got to do better than that !!!! come on girly, shake the twins loose! :D