Trailer wont back up.

[Kilrtoy]

I have an EXTREME trailer.
When I go to back up it locks the brakes and wont let me back up.
What the hell is this....:confused:

[phebus]

Do you have it wired correctly? You need the five wire hook-up that locks out the trailers surge brakes when you put it in reverse. On mine it takes the seven connector round, and converts it to a five flat. If you don't have that, my Extreme trailer came with a metal clip, that would attach to the tongue, and prevent the surge brakes from applying when going in reverse.

[Havasu Hangin']

You need to wire the backup lights to the trailer- the electric solenoid will disengage the brakes.
If you can't do that right now, use the key. Stick it in the slot on the surge part of the tongue.

[LASERRAY]

My Zieman is the same way. I hate that little key.:yuk:

[Kilrtoy]

Thanks guys , But i have no idea where that stuff is.
I have had the trailer for 5 seasons and it started doing it at the end of last season. it is progressively getting worse....

[clownpuncher]

Kilrtoy, if you don't wire it up right, or don't have that gay little key, just get a 5/8 nut and put it in the slot for the sliding rod at the tongue. A couple of dimes stacked will work too. Duct tape it in while you back up, this'll keep the brakes from activating. Don't forget to take the nut out before you hit the road, otherwise, no trailer brakes

[phebus]

If it used to work, but now doesn't, check for corrosion on the contacts for the plug.

[Kilrtoy]

Thanks guys,
I just found these little two washers that are half cut, I think these are the keys you guys are referring too.
Thanks for everything.......

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Thanks guys , But i have no idea where that stuff is.
I have had the trailer for 5 seasons and it started doing it at the end of last season. it is progressively getting worse....
It sounds like you have an intermittent wiring problem with the connection that powers the solenoid valve that releases the pressure on the hydraulic braking system on your trailer when you back up.
This is normally energized by the back-up lights on the tow vehicle (blue wire on a five wire plug) and keeps the brakes from locking up when trying to back the trailer.
If you have a test light, check the system by connecting the boat to the trailer, set the emergency brake, put the vehicle in reverse and check to see if you have power from the plug to the trailer. You may also want to check to make sure both back-up lights on your tow rig are working, if not, start checking for a blown fuses.
Good luck my fellow Shockwave brother. :)

[Tom Brown]

Floor it. Those brakes can only be so strong.

[Kim Hanson]

Originally posted by Tom Brown
Floor it. Those brakes can only be so strong.
To the floor and let her buck! :D ..........( . )( . ).........;)

[Mandelon]

Do you have a five flat on the truck? Could just be the connection at the connector.
The keys will work for backing up but they seem to pop out when the pressure it released. I usually tape mine when backing up, then take it out again after. Let me know if you need a pic.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Mandelon
The keys will work for backing up but they seem to pop out when the pressure it released. I usually tape mine when backing up, then take it out again after. I Concur! I thought I was the only one that had to make this modification. You just made my day :D

[Mandelon]

Mandy is handy!! :D

[Kilrtoy]

Would love to see a pic,
Thanks Mandelon

[Mandelon]

I gotta stick the battery in the charger for a few minutes but I'll do it now. You did mean a pic of the trailer.....? :D

[Kilrtoy]

Pic of how you tape it up when backing

[Mandelon]

Here is where the key goes.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/42dolphins_100-med.jpg
You can see where the tape pulled off the cheap Zieman paint job..:rolleyes: It was blue masking tape too. :mad: Oh well. its only money.

[Mandelon]

On the five flat pin connector you can see the blue wire is the farthest from the ground. If you can check it with a 12 V tester when your hottie wife is standing on the brake with the truck in reverse this should show hot.
Worst case you can wire it to the taillight wire, temporarily turn on your lights and it should make the trailer brakes quit working. Like an over ride off switch.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/42dolphins_101-med.jpg

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Mandelon
If you can check it with a 12 V tester when your hottie wife is standing on the brake with the truck in reverse this should show hot.
Just make sure you post pics of her so we can determine if she's doing it correctly. ;)

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by beer hunter
Just make sure you post pics of her so we can determine if she's doing it correctly. ;) LOL! Amen brutha!:D

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
LOL! Amen brutha!:D
LR, are you going to be out at OP6C next weekend? If so, I've got a few beers with your name on them. :D

[Kachina26]

Check to see if your back up lights even come on when you put the truck in reverse. A misadjusted B/U light sw or blown fuse will keep the solenoid from coming on.

[Tom Brown]

Originally posted by Mandelon
Here is where the key goes.
http://www.carlsonspeed.com/~tombrown/QuickLink/mandytrailer.jpg
You can see where the tape pulled off the cheap Zieman paint job..:rolleyes: It was blue masking tape too. :mad: Oh well. its only money.
It looks like they didn't properly treat the galvanizing.

[Kilrtoy]

HEY I dont have that key,
But I will post a pic of her and her friend washing the boat today...
In a little while.

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I will post a pic of her and her friend washing the boat today...
In a little while.
Please, don't make us wait to long! ;)

[Havasu Hangin']

Originally posted by Tom Brown
It looks like they didn't properly treat the galvanizing.
I don't think it's galvanized.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
HEY I dont have that key,
But I will post a pic of her and her friend washing the boat today...
In a little while. YYYEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!! ( This weekend ain't a complete loss yet ).:)

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Havasu Hangin'
I don't think it's galvanized.
I don't think so either. :)

[Kilrtoy]

Not what you guys probably wanted
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111P1010008-med.JPG

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by beer hunter
LR, are you going to be out at OP6C next weekend? If so, I've got a few beers with your name on them. :D Oh Man, That sounds like an offer I can't refuse!!!;) But, I'm not going. My boat's broke and I only dropped it off to ESSEX yesterday so it's not going to be ready.:( But when we do see each other at the river ( this summer for sure ) the first 9 beers are on me.;) :cool:

[Mandelon]

Less clothes, more bubbles....:D
Without that key you can find a simple 5/8 hex nut and it should work too.

[Kilrtoy]

Thanks mandelon,
I'll post some more pics of her later, she will be one of the 3 chicks on my boat and yes, Im the only dude, Somebodys gotta pay .....

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Not what you guys probably wanted
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/111P1010008-med.JPG Where do you wash your boat? Do it at home and they can wear less.:p

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Mandelon
Less clothes, more bubbles....:D
Without that key you can find a simple 5/8 hex nut and it should work too.
Damn, you beat me to it. :cool:

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Oh Man, That sounds like an offer I can't refuse!!!;) But, I'm not going. My boat's broke and I only dropped it off to ESSEX yesterday so it's not going to be ready.:( But when we do see each other at the river ( this summer for sure ) the first 9 beers are on me.;) :cool: ;)

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Oh Man, That sounds like an offer I can't refuse!!!;) But, I'm not going. My boat's broke and I only dropped it off to ESSEX yesterday so it's not going to be ready.:( But when we do see each other at the river ( this summer for sure ) the first 9 beers are on me.;) :cool:
Fair enough, I'll supply the margaritas after we finish the beers. :cool:

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by beer hunter
Fair enough, I'll supply the margaritas after we finish the beers. :cool: Finish The Beers? My Cooler is Bottomless my friend.:D

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Finish The Beers? My Cooler is Bottomless my friend.:D
.....as is mine. :D BH and LR are going to find themselves very drunk one day this summer! :D

[beer hunter]

Hope thinks work out for ya Kilrtoy....gotta go. :D

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by beer hunter
.....as is mine. :D BH and LR are going to find themselves very drunk one day this summer! :D Without a doubt.:cool:

[Kilrtoy]

Ray whats wrong with the boat:confused: ;) :confused: :confused: :confused:

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Ray whats wrong with the boat:confused: ;) :confused: :confused: :confused: The outdrive broke a couple weeks ago at lake San Antonio. I'll know to what extent on Tuesday or Wednsday.:(

[Mandelon]

Originally posted by beer hunter
.....as is mine. :D BH and LR are going to find themselves very drunk one day this summer! :D
What about me? :(

[Kilrtoy]

What happen, What do you mean it broke.....
That sucks.....

[Mandelon]

The watchamacallit snapped off where it connects to the doohickey. And the chingadera fell into the thingamabob. Totally sucks. :eek:

[Kilrtoy]

The watchamacallit snapped off where it connects to the doohickey. And the chingadera fell into the thingamabob. Totally sucks.
Thats all, why didnt you say so RAY

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by Mandelon
What about me? :(
You and I will be very drunk next weekend. :D

[Mandelon]

OK now that's more like it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

me too.. ;)

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
The outdrive broke a couple weeks ago at lake San Antonio. I'll know to what extent on Tuesday or Wednsday.:(
OUch dude! That sucks. Hope it is something minor like a shift cable or something.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
OUch dude! That sucks. Hope it is something minor like a shift cable or something. Mandy's right! My What-cha-macall-it needs a Thing-a-majig :(

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Mandy's right! My What-cha-macall-it needs a Thing-a-majig :(
Don't forget the Thing-a-majig gasket.....
Sorry bout the boat dude.........:(

[beer hunter]

Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
me too.. ;)
Well of course you too. :D

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Don't forget the Thing-a-mamig gasket.....
Sorry bout the boat dude.........:( Thanks buddy.:)

[MRS FLYIN VEE]

Originally posted by beer hunter
Well of course you too. :D
woo hoo it's party time.. LOL!! :D

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MRS FLYIN VEE
woo hoo it's party time.. LOL!! :D
Good Mrs. Vee........ who you invitin?

[LASERRAY]

Hey Doc, are you going to OP-6?

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Hey Doc, are you going to OP-6?
Gonna try. I got a butt load of work to do on the boat, and I didn't get very far with it today. I got roped into playing golf with the client yesterday, so there went 1/3 of the weekend.....
Hopefully I can get enough done tomorrow so I can feel decent about taking it there...

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Gonna try. I got a butt load of work to do on the boat, and I didn't get very far with it today. I got roped into playing golf with the client yesterday, so there went 1/3 of the weekend.....
Hopefully I can get enough done tomorrow so I can feel decent about taking it there... If you go, stop by here and pick me up.;)

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
If you go, stop by here and pick me up.;)
Still in Los Alamitos..... like 6 months later...

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Still in Los Alamitos..... like 6 months later... HMMMMMMM! The race track?:confused:

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
HMMMMMMM! The race track?:confused:
At the folks house... working in Cerritos at AT&T.......

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
At the folks house... working in Cerritos at AT&T....... And your boat is up-north?

[phebus]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
Oh Man, That sounds like an offer I can't refuse!!!;) But, I'm not going. My boat's broke and I only dropped it off to ESSEX yesterday so it's not going to be ready.:( But when we do see each other at the river ( this summer for sure ) the first 9 beers are on me.;) :cool:
You should see if they have a drive at the shop they could swap out with yours while yours is being repaired.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by phebus
You should see if they have a drive at the shop they could swap out with yours while yours is being repaired. I already told them that if they find something broken in the outdrive, to replace-it, not repair it. I don't want a new boat with six hours on it to have a rebuilt outdrive. I'll only accept new.:cool:

[Kilrtoy]

Ray , I dont know if they told you this or not, But you cant put the boat in gear at 5K RPM's:D

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Ray , I dont know if they told you this or not, But you cant put the boat in gear at 5K RPM's:D LOL! :D

[ROZ]

Originally posted by Tom Brown
http://www.carlsonspeed.com/~tombrown/QuickLink/mandytrailer.jpg
You're a sneaky mofo... Kings Rule...lol ;)

[NOCTURNAL]

Kilrtoy -
We had the same problem with our Extreme trailer. There was an electrical problem that kept blowing fuses in the panel. Check your fuse panel (on your truck) and see if any have blown. To get it fixed, we had to get the electrical worked on at the swing-a-way tongue. I don't know if you have that option, but it seems to cause a problem with the wiring.

[Kachina26]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
I already told them that if they find something broken in the outdrive, to replace-it, not repair it. I don't want a new boat with six hours on it to have a rebuilt outdrive. I'll only accept new.:cool:
I wanna hear how that turns out! GM would tell ya to pound sand:D

[phebus]

Yea, it's a warranty, not a replacement guarntee. Let's see how their customer service is.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by Kachina26
I wanna hear how that turns out! GM would tell ya to pound sand:D I would expect better customer service frm Essex Boats then G.M.. :cool:

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by phebus
Yea, it's a warranty, not a replacement guarntee. Let's see how their customer service is. I'll know by Wednesday.

[phebus]

Beautifull boat Ray. Timeless design.

[Kachina26]

Originally posted by LASERRAY
I would expect better customer service frm Essex Boats then G.M.. :cool:
Essex didn't make the drive, if they step up for Mercs problem then I promise my next boat will be an Essex:D If Merc steps up and gets you a new drive then I'll buy nothing but Merc from now on. I agree with your point completely, who wants a rebuilt while still making payments on new.

[LASERRAY]

Originally posted by phebus
Beautifull boat Ray. Timeless design. Thanks alot! A simple gelcoat design for a simpleton.:D Timeless is good.;) I like yours as well.;)