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sigepmock
06-11-2004, 11:44 AM
Ok dumb question.....
Looking at a 21 Ultra. Is the 350Mag enough motor or is it worth the extra$$ to go with the 6.2L??
I know more is better when it comes to motors but will I feel a big difference between 300HP and 320 HP? I know this is an "opinion" based question/answer, just want to get some thoughts. Thanks.
Chris

jbtrailerjim
06-11-2004, 11:48 AM
There both great motor's. What kind of a price difference are the two?

Ziggy
06-11-2004, 11:49 AM
I went with the 6.2 for the extra torque, not HP....basically its a 377 so its like a mild stroked 350. Be a little better if you plan to ski or board behind it.
I get great fuel economy and I get on plane a little faster.
Mine is in a 23 footer.

Phat Matt
06-11-2004, 11:51 AM
Fuggit and go for the 496. You'll always wish you had more horse power no matter what you get!

Mrs. Bordsmnj
06-11-2004, 11:52 AM
We have a 21' boat and went for the 6.2 I would say its worth the extra $$

Brady Bunch
06-11-2004, 11:54 AM
I have a 2003 Ultra Deckboat with an Escalade 6.0L Vortec! I already want to put in a 572.
What 21' model are you putting it in!

Ziggy
06-11-2004, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Phat Matt
Fuggit and go for the 496. You'll always wish you had more horse power no matter what you get!
My 60-62mph is fast enough....in some cases(as was mine) the 496 takes more headroom, so to speak, so it would have changed the flat rear deck to a hump...which the wife didn't want...she wanted a place to lay comfortably.
Totally depends on how you plan to use the boat the most..if its mostly family then why spend $ on the 496 when they tell you to slow down anyway:D

sigepmock
06-11-2004, 12:01 PM
Sounds like the 6.2L is the way to go. We will be doing skiing, wakeboarding, and general cruising. The price difference is pretty small when the financing is all said and done. We are looking at the 21 Stealth. Want the 24 with the 496 but just can't justify it this year, but I have a feeling we'll be ungrading again in a year or so. Thanks for the input.
Chris

Mandelon
06-11-2004, 12:02 PM
454 Mag maybe? The big block won't have to hustle as hard as the SBC will.......I bet mileage will be the same.
Exhaust through transom or through the hub?

Ziggy
06-11-2004, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Mandelon
Exhaust through transom or through the hub?
Yeah, I heard you get an extra 5mph:D :D :rolleyes:

jbtrailerjim
06-11-2004, 12:08 PM
If there is not much price difference between the two I'd definitely go with the 6.2. Imo..I think that's an ideal motor for a 21ft. boat. By the way good choice going with an Ultra. You will be very happy with them if you buy one.

THOR
06-11-2004, 12:08 PM
With the Mag you can add a procharger or a whipple and that thing would scream. Very easily done on a 454 Mag too. No motor mods either. Just run the minimal boost.
My dad has a 21 Ultra with a 350 Mag and he loves it. It is very quick out of the hole and cruises like a dream.

eliminatedsprinter
06-11-2004, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by sigepmock
Sounds like the 6.2L is the way to go. We will be doing skiing, wakeboarding, and general cruising. The price difference is pretty small when the financing is all said and done. We are looking at the 21 Stealth. Want the 24 with the 496 but just can't justify it this year, but I have a feeling we'll be ungrading again in a year or so. Thanks for the input.
Chris
Another thing is, that hull will probably handle better with a small block. If it was me (and I wish it was) I'd go with the 6.2, even if money was no object.

Phat Matt
06-11-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Ziggy
My 60-62mph is fast enough....in some cases(as was mine) the 496 takes more headroom, so to speak, so it would have changed the flat rear deck to a hump...which the wife didn't want...she wanted a place to lay comfortably.
Totally depends on how you plan to use the boat the most..if its mostly family then why spend $ on the 496 when they tell you to slow down anyway:D
A friend of mine has the 496 HO in a 21 or 22 caliber 1 and that thing screams! He'll dust me in the flat water but in the weekend Havasu chop he can't keep up. :) He has a flat deck though, but I don't know how it would fit in that other boat. Are they that much taller?

phuggit
06-11-2004, 12:34 PM
Size matters. Go big. You can afford it...think of it as "only two more dollars a day towards your monthly payment."
Skip lunch twice a week or donate blood. Lol, I should sell boats for a living.

sigepmock
06-11-2004, 01:35 PM
Well Phuggit if I go through props like you have been lately all I could afford would be the stock 350!!!!:p :eek: $1000 for a lab finish....ouch Thanks for showing me what not to do.....J/K You can get even this weekend.
It's a thru transom exhaust and reading up so more I'm sure we're going with the 6.2L, for a couple of reasons.....weight balance better with the 6.2 vs 496, better torque vs. 350 for pulling skiers, wakeboarders, Phuggit drunk on a raft...etc. Should be a solid 60's mph boat. Again, I know a lot of this is opinion but I appreciate the feedback.
Here's what we're going with if we do it.....
Ultra 21 Stealth, 6.2L Bravo 1, BIG stereo, tall ski pole (hee hee I said POLE), blue and gray gel, with light gray/blue interior. I even got the OK from the Mrs. so we'll see what happens.
Thanks again.
Chris

ROZ
06-11-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by phuggit
donate blood. They won't take it. You guys drink too much :D

dicudmore
06-11-2004, 01:48 PM
good luck to ya Chris :D

sigepmock
06-11-2004, 02:10 PM
Now if I could only get that Damn BOB guy at Ultra to lower the price......:)
Can you here me now?
Anyone? Anyone?
How about it Bob?:) :confused: :)

goneboatin
06-11-2004, 02:33 PM
I've got a Howard 22 Sport with the 350 Mag. My boat gets up and moves pretty good, I wish it had a little more low end, but it's all good. If that 6.2 is anything like the 6.0 in my truck, it's probably a gas pig. If it is a gas pig, step up and go with the 496, the gas cosumption can't be much worse than the 6.2 and you get another 100 hp if you go for the HO.

THOR
06-11-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by sigepmock
Now if I could only get that Damn BOB guy at Ultra to lower the price......:)
Can you here me now?
Anyone? Anyone?
How about it Bob?:) :confused: :)
My dad might be selling his soon to go a little bigger. His is a 21' Stealth with a 350 Mag. Open bow.

77charger
06-11-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Mandelon
454 Mag maybe? The big block won't have to hustle as hard as the SBC will.......I bet mileage will be the same.
Exhaust through transom or through the hub? Milage will be good with the small block i know mine is but it is the older 350 mag.All weekend easily on 30 gallons

OC Ultra
06-11-2004, 04:09 PM
I have the 350 mag in my 21RS Ultra. Great bulletproof combo, fill it up & your good for the weekend. I think that with the small block the hull handles alot better. Put a procharger on it, & it rips. But forget about fuel economy when on boost...lol

Hallett19
06-11-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Mandelon
Exhaust through transom or through the hub?
Stupid question !!! :D

77charger
06-11-2004, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by Hallett19
Stupid question !!! :D Nah no such thing as a stupid ?
I have thru hub on my boat and since it aint a speed demon i love it "stealth mode".The race boat well its Loud,fast and quick:D

Dr. Eagle
06-11-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by Ziggy
Yeah, I heard you get an extra 5mph:D :D :rolleyes:
It's been Documented.....;)

boatnam2
06-11-2004, 07:53 PM
im not sure of the price difference but you will not really feel 20 extra ponies.thru hull exhaust will gain you just about zero performance with a 350.had one with and without a 21ft ultra as a matter of fact so dont believe the hype guys are going to try and blow up your ass.

Dr. Eagle
06-11-2004, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by boatnam2
im not sure of the price difference but you will not really feel 20 extra ponies.thru hull exhaust will gain you just about zero performance with a 350.had one with and without a 21ft ultra as a matter of fact so dont believe the hype guys are going to try and blow up your ass.
You don't get the joke???

THOR
06-11-2004, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by OC Ultra
I have the 350 mag in my 21RS Ultra. Great bulletproof combo, fill it up & your good for the weekend. I think that with the small block the hull handles alot better. Put a procharger on it, & it rips. But forget about fuel economy when on boost...lol
That would be cool. A procharger on a 350 Mag with through the hub exhaust. There would be plenty of big boys getting smoked by you and they wouldnt even here you coming.

Dr. Eagle
06-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by THOR
That would be cool. A procharger on a 350 Mag with through the hub exhaust. There would be plenty of big boys getting smoked by you and they wouldnt even here you coming.
And that Prop... It'd be SMOKIN...... literally!

boatnam2
06-11-2004, 09:07 PM
yea i get it but some people dont:D

Dr. Eagle
06-11-2004, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by boatnam2
yea i get it but some people dont:D
the funny thing is that it does make a difference. I put IMCO manifolds and changed to thru transom on my old day cruiser with a 350 thru prop and it definitely had quicker acceleration and midrange torque was much improved. Not 1 mile an hour faster though. that after spending over 2K for the manifolds, elbows, fittings and tips. Live and learn. I do like the sound of the transom exhaust better though!

mtndewdrops
06-11-2004, 09:50 PM
Okay, here is the real deal. I bought my Essex from Cola and he put in the thru hull exhaust and reported a 3-4 mph increase in the top end. The boat is 21 ft and has a 350 MAG with a Bravo III.
I think the boat is fast enough at 64 (speedo not GPS) with 4 peeps and a full tank of gas. It may not get out of the hole as fast as a 6.2, but it pulls me out of the water fine and I am about 220lbs.
Get a Thirsty 496 & You'll Pay at the PUMP.
IMO- The bottom line for you is this...Don't buy new if you think you will upgrade in a year or two unless you want to throw away $10-$15K. Buy a clean, used low-hour boat like I did and $ave. Then you can recoup most of your $ and buy what you really wanted in the first place.

CBLavey
06-12-2004, 06:05 PM
Get the 6.2...I did over both a 350 Mag & the 496. There won't be much of a speed difference vs. the 350 Mag but there is quite a bit more mid range torque. The 496 is an awesome motor, but it's also about 200lbs heavier and quite a bit thirstier though it should probably be worth an extra 5 mph. :cool: :cool:

BarryMac
06-12-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by sigepmock
Ok dumb question.....
Looking at a 21 Ultra. Is the 350Mag enough motor or is it worth the extra$$ to go with the 6.2L??
I know more is better when it comes to motors but will I feel a big difference between 300HP and 320 HP? I know this is an "opinion" based question/answer, just want to get some thoughts. Thanks.
Chris
Did your jet sell?
Get the thru transom exhaust, unless you want your boat to sound like a can opener...:D
gjb

Dr. Eagle
06-12-2004, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by gottajetboat
Did your jet sell?
Get the thru transom exhaust, unless you want your boat to sound like a can opener...:D
gjb
Or the first Hybrid boat...