25,26 vee bottoms

[RACRJEFF]

who seems to have the best bang for thier buck on this size boat, i like the shockwave ,cant afford an elminator or howard or dcbs in that range any ideas is appreciated ????

[Mandelon]

Ultra, Aftershock, Commander, Lightning, Genesis, Domin8er, Dana, are some other names that are likely to be less expensive.
Get the ***boat magazine and look through a few of them.

[HighRoller]

I think the new Cobra 26ft Vee looks excellent. Might wanna check it out.

[beer hunter]

You will only be happy with the Shockwave ;) :D

[OGShocker]

That right there was funny..
RJ, Check your PM's

[plaster dave]

well dont look @ commanders cause there going out of buisness so i heared.

[RACRJEFF]

well put it this way dave i have a 04 commander with 19 hours on it ,wife likes the 26 sleekcraft anyone know anything about them , high dollar boat or reasonable good/ bad im looking to do 65 max

[OGShocker]

Did you get my PM?

[LASERRAY]

You really should check-out Hallett. VERY affordable. :D

[Q-ROTOR WARLOCK]

ShockWave or Velocity, both are great boats in IMHO. a Velocity is a very deep boat also.

[AleAlchemist]

Originally posted by Mandelon
Ultra, Aftershock, Commander, Lightning, Genesis, Domin8er, Dana, are some other names that are likely to be less expensive.
Get the ***boat magazine and look through a few of them.
Well at first i was a bit offended...:mad:
As does anyone whos work is catagorized in any way shape or form. If you dont, then that tells what you think about your own work.
But now that I think about it....:o
Being in a list like that, its hard to believe how far we've come in the time we've been Genesis.
Its hard to beleive that Genesis bought its first mold little less than five years ago.
I was 1 month out of highschool and Joel and I just finished spraying for Steve and Ron at Essex, We spent five hours waxing that little 21 V-drive.
This was when joel was still spraying for DCB, Cobra, SD Ultra. In fact we waxed that mold in Essex's spraying area, they were really generous letting use the space for the mold.
That little V-drive never touched the water.
Now Look at us, What a strang Trip its been.
From then to now, and in my head!:D
So thank You Mandelon!:)

[rivercrazy]

Take a hard look at the Shockwave Tremor25. Its hard to find a fault. Great layup, rigging, handling, performance, turning, top speed, layout, etc. And its one of the few full sized 25's in its size class. 100 inch beam, 24 degree v bottom, full 25 foot length without the swimstep. I've put 125 hard hours on ours so far and no issues whatsoever. PM me if you want some more input

[FRENCHIE]

gotta say go with the Shockwave...ill be goin back to them on my next purchase down the road!:D

[RiverToysJas]

IF I were shopping for 25-26' of new boat, I'd look only three places....
1) Laveycraft 24' or 26' (depending on how big I'd really want to go).
2) 25' Howard Bullet
3) 25' Shockwave
If I were leaning to the smaller side of 25' (closer to 23-24'), the Ultra 247 would be on my list as well, for it's great lines.
The Howard would probably be the spendiest, but it's a beautiful boat!!! I'd be proud to own any of those boats though.
RTJas :D

[rivercrazy]

Originally posted by RiverToysJas
IF I were shopping for 25-26' of new boat, I'd look only three places....
1) Laveycraft 24' or 26' depending on how big I'd really want to go).
2) 25' Howard Bullet
3) 25' Shockwave
If I were leaning to the smaller side of 25' (closer to 23-24'), the Ultra 247 would be on my list as well, for it's great lines.
The Howard would probably be the spendiest, but it's a beautiful boat!!! I'd be proud to own any of those boats though.
RTJas :D
Couldn't agree more. Laveycraft 26 or Shockwave 25 for bigger lake and ocean duty. Bullet or Lavey 24 for lake only duty. RTJ and I really did a lot of research in this size class about a year ago and we pretty much came to similar conclusions

[Kilrtoy]

You really should check-out Hallett. VERY affordable
Ray put the pipe down,
he said affordable.......

[hd&boatrider]

I used to own a Commander and now have the Shockwave Tremor. I love the boat and it definitely gives you a feeling of confidence when the lake gets rough. I plan to move up in a year or so to the 29 or 34 at SHockwave. Couldn't be happier :)

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
You really should check-out Hallett. VERY affordable
Ray put the pipe down,
he said affordable.......
He just passed the pipe, I heard. Eeeeere....

[Kilrtoy]

He just passed the pipe, I heard. Eeeeere
Stop lying,
RAY is a bogart
I would go with Shockwave 56K or so and you get 25' of ruff water big boat....

[FRENCHIE]

what are you smokin try the range of $70g's for the SHOCKWAVE 25' Tremor!:rolleyes: ;)

[RiverToysJas]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I would go with Shockwave 56K or so....
You buying used??? ;) I agree the Shockwave is an awesome value, but I believe 56 is light for a Tremor.
RTJas :D

[Kilrtoy]

what are you smokin try the range of $70g's for the SHOCKWAVE 25' Tremor
WOW, it has been 3 or so years since I looked

[FRENCHIE]

you might be around $60 or so with a stock 350 motor maybee! but not with the 496 ho !!

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
what are you smokin try the range of $70g's for the SHOCKWAVE 25' Tremor
WOW, it has been 3 or so years since I looked
Eeeeere....:D

[hd&boatrider]

$70K is around the proper pricing...Maybe a little less in the off-season....

[FRENCHIE]

Originally posted by hd&boatrider
$70K is around the proper pricing...Maybe a little less in the off-season....
is there and echo in here???:confused: :D

[Kilrtoy]

WOW, what is a 29 going for, now Im dating myself. When we looked at that it was 68K.
Go ahead I'm sitting down now.....

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by FRENCHIE
is there and echo in here???:confused: :D
An echo in EEEEeere.........:D

[FRENCHIE]

im not sure on the 29' magnitude but i know of one who got the 500 motor and all the options for just over a $100g's!

[DogHouse]

Cheetah 29 is a great value, mid-50s with a 496 last I checked.

[hd&boatrider]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
WOW, what is a 29 going for, now Im dating myself. When we looked at that it was 68K.
Go ahead I'm sitting down now.....
I did not price one KT but it is more than that 68K that is for sure.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by DogHouse
Cheetah 29 is a great value, mid-50s with a 496 last I checked.
That's a smoking deal, when did you check last?

[RiverToysJas]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
WOW, what is a 29 going for, now Im dating myself. When we looked at that it was 68K.
Go ahead I'm sitting down now.....
You can probably get a 2000 w/ fresh motors for about 95 Grand. (http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/3/73035553.htm) ;)
RTJas :D

[DogHouse]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
That's a smoking deal, when did you check last?
Not long ago, maybe 10 years or so... ;)
Ok maybe about a year. :D
Seriously though, with Cheetah you get a lot of boat for the money, and there's nothing wrong with them, very solid all the way through (especially in recent years). I wouldn't compare one to a DCB or Howard, but IMO they're every bit as nice or nicer than some of the other lower end builders.

[Kilrtoy]

That was a cover boat years ago and had 454MPI's.
Just found a 02/02 with starting price at 76K. I'm sure its gone up since then
I guess i'm out of touch.....

[DogHouse]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
That was a cover boat years ago and had 454MPI's.
Just found a 02/02 with starting price at 76K. I'm sure its gone up since then
I guess i'm out of touch.....
Now it appears to have a whole lot more balls behind the loud pedal. Wonder how it runs with 1280 hp on tap??? :eek!: :D

[RiverToysJas]

Originally posted by DogHouse
Now it appears to have a whole lot more balls behind the loud pedal. Wonder how it runs with 1280 hp on tap??? :eek!: :D
My guess would be right about 90-95. I'd be interested to know the real numbers though. I guess they don't even know though, as the engines have zero hours! ;)
RTJas :D

[Kilrtoy]

I remember that the KORN boat with twin HP500's ran 95 or so.....

[RiverToysJas]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
I remember that the KORN boat with twin HP500's ran 95 or so.....
Is that confirmed? Box stock HP500s?
RTJas :D

[Kilrtoy]

I can not confirm nor deny,
but I bet it had thru transom exhaust.
If i remember correctly, it also had set backs on the drives.....

[DogHouse]

I'm very curious because if I ever replace the cat it would be for a 29 Cheetah with 1100hp of small blocks in back. Be nice to know how it would run before committing all that time and moola.
:cool:

[roln 20s]

I'm very curious because if I ever replace the cat it would be for a 29 Cheetah with 1100hp of small blocks in back. Be nice to know how it would run before committing all that time and moola.
Umm..sorry to butt in here, but Doghouse, whats this cheetah talk, I vaguely remember that somewhere in the past :D but haven't we discussed this before- 28 Howard Bullet :D
Actually...now I think remember you saying it was a lot of money...and blah blah blah, but I said super fast and you then said blah, blah, blah--- I'll sell your kitty and then we'll talk :D ...and I'll try and listen :rolleyes:
Roln 20s <---doghouse's salesman
PS- 28 Magic Kitty open bow with lots of power for sale-- as fast as you need to go....and priced in your range: $100K invested, will sacrifice for my buddy at $125K :) - contact me ASAP- will not last :D

[DogHouse]

Roln, U da man! :D
Only you rich folk can afford a Howard. Remember, I'm ghetto from Cave Creek. :p

[Scream]

For the record, I love my Kachina 26'...you just have to go to Phoenix to get it...

[Garrddogg]

Bang for the buck=KACHINA !:D

[roln 20s]

Remember, I'm ghetto from Cave Creek.
I wouldn't consider it the ghetto. I wonder what Jordy thinks? He is the one that "labels" east vs west! I guess you are just north--thats gotta be good :D
Whats 100K between a new boat owner and boat company? Trust me- I ask myself this everyday...and my answer--its 100K and thats alot of moola- even for a west sider!
Roln 20s

[DogHouse]

Originally posted by roln 20s
...I wonder what Jordy thinks?...
Is that "Jordy" or "Geordi"? Sorry Jordy, I couldn't resist! :D

[dicudmore]

love my 29 Cheetah ;)

[dicudmore]

Originally posted by DogHouse
Cheetah 29 is a great value, mid-50s with a 496 last I checked.
58 w/496HO, add for some options

[DogHouse]

Originally posted by roln 20s
...I guess you are just north--thats gotta be good...
Ya think? It doesn't suck being almost exactly between Bartlett and (un)Pleasant lakes. What will it be today, sandy beaches and good scenery, or rocks, big waves, and good scenery (the mostly naked kind)?!?!
:D

[dicudmore]

Originally posted by DogHouse
Ya think? It doesn't suck being almost exactly between Bartlett and (un)Pleasant lakes. What will it be today, sandy beaches and good scenery, or rocks, big waves, and good scenery (the mostly naked kind)?!?!
:D
hey, those sound like good choices :D

[Kilrtoy]

Why are 29 Cheetah's the same price as others 25's and even 21's:confused:

[DogHouse]

Originally posted by Kilrtoy
Why are 29 Cheetah's the same price as others 25's and even 21's:confused:
Same reason that Bob will order any special hardware that you want for your new boat and sell it to you at his cost (nice discount off retail). He's not out to make a killing off each boat, just a fair profit. Also, he runs a pretty informal operation, no big advertising, no fancy showroom.

[dicudmore]

Originally posted by DogHouse
Same reason that Bob will order any special hardware that you want for your new boat and sell it to you at his cost (nice discount off retail). He's not out to make a killing off each boat, just a fair profit. Also, he runs a pretty informal operation, no big advertising, no fancy showroom.
what he said.....very low over-head.
Kilrtoy anytime you wanna come check out my boat I'm right over the hill. Except its stored in Vegas the next couple weeks....