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AzDon
07-09-2004, 02:33 PM
ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
I attacked and took over two countries.
I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period.
I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.
In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1).
I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war. I refused to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father's library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
For personal references, please speak to my dad or uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the ext one.)

mirvin
07-09-2004, 02:42 PM
I knew there were plenty of reasons that GW kicks ass, but I had no idea there were so many.
Thanks AZDOn. GW RUles. I'm glad you reminded us of all the great things he's done for us.
mirvin

Debbolas
07-09-2004, 02:42 PM
What he said...........GW Rules!:D

miller19j
07-09-2004, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by mirvin
I knew there were plenty of reasons that GW kicks ass, but I had no idea there were so many.
Thanks AZDOn. GW RUles. I'm glad you reminded us of all the great things he's done for us.
mirvin
LMAO ....... :)
You are Killing me today Mirvin!

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 02:44 PM
GW..... YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

SeaRayPat
07-09-2004, 02:48 PM
Waaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaa Fricking Libs always crying!..... ...........BUSH CHENEY 2004

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by SeaRayPat
Waaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaa Fricking Libs always crying!..... ...........BUSH CHENEY 2004
Like I said:
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
GW..... YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush Cheney 2004!

mirvin
07-09-2004, 02:53 PM
Too bad Clinton had his thumb up his ass for 8 years instead of protecting our county!!!
Sorry AZDOn, the Democratic Party can not be trusted to protect us. Who stepped up and took the fight to the enemy? G-dubba-dubb.
Nothing else really matters. I don't care if you think GW is a moron, or he's not elequent enough, or he's not cultured enough or whatever the bs is today cuz all that matters is that now the fight is on THEIR territory and not ours.
mirvin

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by mirvin
Too bad Clinton had his thumb up his ass for 8 years instead of protecting our county!!!
Sorry AZDOn, the Democratic Party can not be trusted to protect us. Who stepped up and took the fight to the enemy? G-dubba-dubb.
Nothing else really matters. I don't care if you think GW is a moron, or he's not elequent enough, or he's not cultured enough or whatever the bs is today cuz all that matters is that now the fight is on THEIR territory and not ours.
mirvin
HM
Harumph Mirvin

AzDon
07-09-2004, 02:58 PM
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.

mirvin
07-09-2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
HM
Harumph Mirvin
I'd like to thank the acadamy, and Michael Moore for inspiring greatness in all of us, and I'd like to thank Oscar Schindler, and I think we're gonna need a bigger boat;)
mirvin

Debbolas
07-09-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
Oh, yes by all means let the movie make our voting decision for us! LOL:rolleyes:

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
If you believe anything you see in that movie you are ignorant!!!!!!!

mirvin
07-09-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
Ya see, nobody cares about that stoopid chit. WHo's gonna kick ass and take names and not give a crap about what the rest of the world thinks?
GeeeDubba duubba dub baby!!~!
I suppose Kerry made his money the old fashioned way, huh?
mirvin

Debbolas
07-09-2004, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by mirvin
Ya see, nobody cares about that stoopid chit. WHo's gonna kick ass and take names and not give a crap about what the rest of the world thinks?
GeeeDubba duubba dub baby!!~!
I suppose Kerry made his money the old fashioned way, huh?
mirvin
Married it, he did ! ( spoken in a Yoda voice)

WILDERTHANU
07-09-2004, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
you are ignorant.
NO IM NOT...YOU ARE......

YW82DRM
07-09-2004, 03:07 PM
SCREW KERRY!!!!!!
GO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AT LEAST HE HAD THE BALLS TO GET DONE WHAT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!
HE MAY BE A LOT OF THINGS BUT HE IS A MAN OF HONOR AND I WILL FIGHT THAT ALL DAY LONG!
f$#K THAT STUPID MOVIE... AND THE COWARD THAT STAYED AT HOME MAKING IT INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR HIS COUNTRY.

mirvin
07-09-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by YW82DRM
SCREW KERRY!!!!!!
GO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AT LEAST HE HAD THE BALLS TO GET DONE WHAT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!
HE MAY BE A LOT OF THINGS BUT HE IS A MAN OF HONOR AND I WILL FIGHT THAT ALL DAY LONG!
f$#K THAT STUPID MOVIE... AND THE COWARD THAT STAYED AT HOME MAKING IT INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR HIS COUNTRY.
i love you (picture the scene towards the end of Iron Giant);)
mirvin

MagicMtnDan
07-09-2004, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
Your posts on this board are like a Ralphs grocery store is for a hungry person. You give us so much ammunition to use against you and your left wing bretheren that it's scary.
Let me compliment you on this post (above) for it's cleverness:
1. "For some reason it got an R rating" - yeah, you and your fellow liberal losers are the propagators of some of the wildest conspiracy theories! I'm sure President Bush himself gave this "movie" an R rating, right Don? :eek:
2. You have to take Nicky boy to see the movie. Yeah, I'll bet. I'm sure he's never gone to see an R-rated movie without you huh Dad?! Right. And by the way, your kid coulda been raised normal if you didn't fill his head with your socialistic views of the world. Too bad for him that you're beyond redemption but he coulda had a chance if you gave it to him.
3. "If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant." You are soooo right Don! :rolleyes: If you believe that BS I've got 100 or so books you should read before YOU vote. And by the way, if you vote without reading them YOU are ignorant. :D
It's fun using your "logic" on you. :)

YW82DRM
07-09-2004, 03:13 PM
It just pisses me off that some people judge things that they know nothing about... What about dignity and honor...... Something that the guy that made that movie has lost soemwhere along the line. I could see if he got his leg blown off in fighting for his country but no he sits at home and eats burgers all day and thinks of how he can get bush out of office while he gets fatter and fatter.......... I think we should ship him to iran and he can join the talaban!:mad:

mirvin
07-09-2004, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by YW82DRM
It just pisses me off that some people judge things that they know nothing about... What about dignity and honor...... Something that the guy that made that movie has lost soemwhere along the line. I could see if he got his leg blown off in fighting for his country but no he sits at home and eats burgers all day and thinks of how he can get bush out of office while he gets fatter and fatter.......... I think we should ship him to iran and he can join the talaban!:mad:
Nothing against Canadians, but isn't that big fat **** of a ****er Canadian? What business does he have even being here? Spreading his gobledy gook all over. The guy is a tool. His films are a joke. THe worst part is that people think they are factual, even though it's all fiction.
mirvin

spectratoad
07-09-2004, 03:23 PM
That is great. I need to work on my resume` I guess so I can be as accomplished.
I love seeing the Dem's run in circles and try to invent something to make GW seem attached to some controversy.
We now have a Prez that is moral and has brought honor back to the country and Presidency and you libs don't know what to do.
I love seeing you guys tearing yourselves apart from the inside.
GO GW!!!!!

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by YW82DRM
he can join the talaban!:mad:
I think he did that a long time ago...... Sellout.......:mad:

YW82DRM
07-09-2004, 03:24 PM
Ironically he would be from Canada seeing as Canada hasn't freed a single person and neither has France...... I agree war suck but my daddy taught me when someone hits you ....You hit them back but they have to hit you first! That fat freak is close to crossing a thin line and he better watch his fat a$$!

eliminatedsprinter
07-09-2004, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
If it's in a movie it must be so huh. Even if that move is by a known fraud like Michael Moore. ;)
My friend (and I think I mean that, because I have liked everyone I have ever met off of these boards, no matter what their politics) how gullible do you think we are?????
P.S. I will be off the boards for a couple of weeks, starting in a few min, so don't feel like you have to respond to this as I probably won't see it.
Yea, I know kind of a hit and run...;)

BUSTI
07-09-2004, 04:28 PM
AZdon,
Moore the commie would be proud of you! And I am sure kerry will be proud to have you as a voter also.
You suck!

25 Eagle
07-09-2004, 05:04 PM
No one tried to impeach him though.

Dribble
07-09-2004, 05:09 PM
Must we go through this yet again ????
Hey AZ Don. Take it where someone actually gives a shit about what the Michael Moores of the world think.

Rexone
07-09-2004, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
That's about the funniest damn thing I've heard all week Don. Thanks for the laugh :D

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Dribble
Must we go through this yet again ????
Hey AZ Don. Take it where someone actually gives a shit about what the Michael Moores of the world think.
Thank you Dribble! I agree... that would be
A. Cuba
B. North Korea
C. Commie China
NOT HERE!

sam pioske
07-09-2004, 06:16 PM
G. Doubleyaaa! Give em hell,. screw the rest. About time our Press. was on the USA's side . F**k the U N worthless SOB,s F**k France, Germeny and lately our Bro,s the Canucks [except our Hot Boat buddys] Agin if you don't like the US of A go wherever you think it's better !!!!

ahhell
07-09-2004, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
do you believe all the movies you see??? maybe if we watch some happy movies everything will be alright....click your heels togther eveyone......you to Toto, dammit

GlastronGuy
07-09-2004, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
At least you didn't call that piece of crap a documentary.

AzDon
07-09-2004, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by YW82DRM
SCREW KERRY!!!!!!
GO BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AT LEAST HE HAD THE BALLS TO GET DONE WHAT HAS BEEN NEEDED FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!
HE MAY BE A LOT OF THINGS BUT HE IS A MAN OF HONOR AND I WILL FIGHT THAT ALL DAY LONG!
f$#K THAT STUPID MOVIE... AND THE COWARD THAT STAYED AT HOME MAKING IT INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR HIS COUNTRY.
A man of Honor?? You gotta be kidding Me!! On September 11th, he was too frightened to return to Washington and hid like a coward on his beloved airplane (make that OUR airplane) with a full fighter jet escort.... It's not HIS kids or the kids of anyone he knows dying in Iraq. And if you forgot about his distinguished military career, here's a little reminder
CLICK HERE (http://www.anti-bush.com/topgun.html)

likwidsukr
07-09-2004, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by ahhell
do you believe all the movies you see??? maybe if we watch some happy movies everything will be alright....click your heels togther eveyone......you to Toto, dammit
Go Ron Jeremy Uh sorry wrong thread:confused:

MagicMtnDan
07-09-2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
A man of Honor?? You gotta be kidding Me!! On September 11th, he was too frightened to return to Washington and hid like a coward on his beloved airplane (make that OUR airplane) with a full fighter jet escort.... It's not HIS kids or the kids of anyone he knows dying in Iraq. And if you forgot about his distinguished military career, here's a little reminder
CLICK HERE (http://www.anti-bush.com/topgun.html)
Now you're proving you're a complete ass.
* "Too frightened to return to Washington" - his job is (was) to stay alive and lead this country. There were still many hundreds of planes in the air and they knew more could be headed to Washington DC and to have a mid-air crash with Air Force One. How dare you suggest President Bush is a coward! Do you have the balls to send that criticism to him via e-mail or letter?
* His kids aren't dying in Iraq - is that a requirement for a President to win a war in this country?! If that's the case then your kid must be fighting in Iraq for you to criticize the war you jackass.
* Presidents don't need a distinguished military career. His Dad was a real war hero and I'll bet you hated him just as much.
Please go away - your chicken shite behavior smells like cowardice to me.

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 06:50 PM
Also remember...
This is an all volunteer military, unlike those of previous conflicts (those before Grenada).

Garrddogg
07-09-2004, 06:50 PM
GO G DUBYA!:D

AzDon
07-09-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by mirvin
Nothing against Canadians, but isn't that big fat **** of a ****er Canadian? What business does he have even being here? Spreading his gobledy gook all over. The guy is a tool. His films are a joke. THe worst part is that people think they are factual, even though it's all fiction.
mirvin
Michael Moore grew up in Flint, Michigan, which I'm pretty sure is not part of Canada! He would have been a third-generation auto worker, except GM closed down their plants in the area. His film displays documents and uses all real people and authentic film footage...NO ACTORS! In some ways, I think MM's presentation was more restrained than it needed to be. In other ways, it is kinda over the top. The man did his homework and personally guarantees his facts (that means sue him if he's lied!!)
You can bait me all you want about Kerry.....I'm not really thrilled about him, but he did earn a Purple Heart in Vietnam!
Give me a Republican with a background and agenda I can vote for and I'll ditch Kerry in a heartbeat!
A lot of you folks are too emotionally invested in your boy GW to consider his background or faults, otherwise you'd go see the movie!

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 06:58 PM
Michael Moore is a lying sack of shit. How anyone can take 10% fact and weave 90% deception and have the likes of you lapping it up is beyond me.
Everything he has ever done (from the first things I saw) like TV Nation were a bunch of woven BS with strategically placed factoids.

mike37
07-09-2004, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
Hey don your right every thing you see in the movies are true
if the guy that makes all the money off it says so

sam pioske
07-09-2004, 07:05 PM
They closed the G M plant because they made a piece of shit car and took $30.00 hr if they worked or not !

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 07:07 PM
As I remember that was the subject of one of his first TV nation episodes...
That mean old General Motors shutting down a money losing operation and putting all those over compensated under skilled workers out of jobs..........:rolleyes:

AzDon
07-09-2004, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Michael Moore is a lying sack of shit. How anyone can take 10% fact and weave 90% deception and have the likes of you lapping it up is beyond me.
Everything he has ever done (from the first things I saw) like TV Nation were a bunch of woven BS with strategically placed factoids.
Since you're an expert on the percentage of fact presented in Mr. Moore's movie, I'd like a scene-by-scene description of which parts are fictitious. Haven't seen the movie? Then how can you claim to be qualified to criticize it?

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
Since you're an expert on the percentage of fact presented in Mr. Moore's movie, I'd like a scene-by-scene description of which parts are fictitious. Haven't seen the movie? Then how can you claim to be qualified to criticize it?
I refuse to put a penny in that MF's pocket. That being said my brother has seen it, sister and we have discussed it. I have seen enough excerpts to know that he ought to be shot as a traitor.

Rexone
07-09-2004, 07:39 PM
Don what happened?
Did liberalbullshit.com go offline today :confused:

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Rexone
Don what happened?
Did liberalbullshit.com go offline today :confused:
Mike I think it was BOOBS. COM that went off line
Believing
Our
Own
Bull
Shit
:rolleyes:

CEO
07-09-2004, 07:54 PM
Dude, Go up to Cal Berkley, they would be cheering you like a Hero. Nice speech by Al (got my ass kicked) Gore. Is that guy real or is he a Pinnochio puppet. Fricking funny as hell.
Al Gore <pointing finger> <shaking like a pussy> " Well President Bush was just mean to me. I taking my ball and I'm going home." Nice Representative for a political party. LMAO:D

mickeyfinn
07-09-2004, 07:56 PM
AZDON....Hope you didn't watch Road Runner Cartoons as a child....I would be afraid you would hurt yourself trying to paint a tunnel into a mountain and run through it!!!

058
07-09-2004, 07:59 PM
Gee, Wilbur...If its on the silver screen it must be true. All the fine people in Hollywood wouldn't lie to us, would they?:rolleyes:

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
A lot of you folks are too emotionally invested in your boy GW to consider his background or faults, otherwise you'd go see the movie!
Actually I am not happy with W... but I'll take him in a HEARTBEAT over the two Dems running against him. They of course are for the "Common man" meaning those that want something for nothing from the rest of us.
W has his faults... so does the "common man's candidate" with his numerous houses, cars and other holdings and the "ambulance chaser" running mate.
I will never....... read this will NEVER knowingly give michael moore a red cent. He is a negative piece of shit. I hate him as much as you can hate anyone... because he is a negative energy that spreads propaganda labeled "documentary". Just like bowling for columbine... and all the other BS he has produced he is on my boycott list... not because I like Bush... because I hate his lying ass...

Little Wood Boat
07-09-2004, 08:39 PM
I can't even stand to read "HOLLYWOOD AZ DON"S" B U L L S H I T. Like Jordy said awhile ago " go f u c k- up your site with this trash.

N2Lake
07-09-2004, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
If you believe all the shit in that movie you are ignorant

Propchecker
07-09-2004, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Also remember...
This is an all volunteer military, unlike those of previous conflicts (those before Grenada).
Exactly! But from a modern democrat voter's viewpoint joining the armed forces should just be some free college money, world travel, and a gym membership right? The military isn't perfect, few things in the world are, but without it's men and women and a respected commander in chief (unlike Clinton, Kerry, Gore, etc) we're history.

Dr. Eagle
07-09-2004, 09:52 PM
Exactly... another government benefit... not a REAL military obligation. Believe me, when my son joined the army... he KNEW what he was signing up for... and so did I... which bothered me with Clinton in the office who didn't support the military particularly well.

Squirtin Thunder
07-09-2004, 10:41 PM
Alot of people think GW Bush is the worst president in history but they have a very short memory. Now just remember who the Hell came before (ooppss in Monicas mouth). Clinton left Bush one hell of a mess to clean up. I find it hard to believe that the day after Bush took office that we sudenly had a huge defiset. Clinton lied to to all of us his wife and his daughter, what make you think he did not bullshit us on the deficit ?????? Hel the son of a bitch closed more bases than any other president in history. Bush was lied to by the CIA. Congress was lied to by the CIA. WTF ??????? Now you want another wishy washy son of a bitch now that makes a lot of sence. Just think with your heads. Yes we have lost americans over there but no where near son of the other wars we have fought. When these men and women boy and girls joined the military they signed to protect and defend the flag and constitution of the USofA so we need to suport the president not bash him. He has done everything in his power. If GW Bush had his way he would have not occupied this hell hole and he would have made a parking lot out of it. Have we had any terro attacks since 9-11 ??? We need to untie his hands before more Americans loose there lives.Support your President !!!!

rrrr
07-09-2004, 11:09 PM
AzDon, I didn't even bother reading the three pages of responses to your bullshlt. Just wanted to say f*ck you and learn the truth about what is going on.
Too bad you are one of those that thinks we must apologize for being Americans.

MagicMtnDan
07-10-2004, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by AzDon
Since you're an expert on the percentage of fact presented in Mr. Moore's movie, I'd like a scene-by-scene description of which parts are fictitious. Haven't seen the movie? Then how can you claim to be qualified to criticize it?
OK America-hater, I'll play your game with you. You really want to know what's up with that "movie?" Here's a description of oh, say 59 (FIFTY-NINE) LIES from the pure propaganda film Fahrenheit 911 (http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm)

MagicMtnDan
07-10-2004, 05:30 AM
OK America-hater, here's an article about your favorite movie that, if you don't read, you're ignorant. It's fun using your BS on you! (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/)
In the film, Moore says loudly and repeatedly that not enough troops were sent to garrison Afghanistan and Iraq. (This is now a favorite cleverness of those who were, in the first place, against sending any soldiers at all.) Well, where does he think those needful heroes and heroines would have come from? Does he favor a draft—the most statist and oppressive solution? Does he think that only hapless and gullible proles sign up for the Marines? Does he think—as he seems to suggest—that parents can "send" their children, as he stupidly asks elected members of Congress to do? Would he have abandoned Gettysburg because the Union allowed civilians to pay proxies to serve in their place? Would he have supported the antidraft (and very antiblack) riots against Lincoln in New York?

HighRoller
07-10-2004, 05:49 AM
Nobody seems to remember that only one third of the country supported the revolutionary war, so if we had listened to the naysayers back then we'd still be speaking with that funny accent. Cheerio, old chap!
As far as the Democrats whining that "parents and grandparents" are being recalled and sent to Iraq, thank your boy BJBill forthat one. Did you think the endless reduction of military assets by the previous administration would never come home to roost? Typically, the same ones who created the shortage of available assets(Read:Democrats) are the ones crying that we don't have enough troops in our active military nowadays and that families are being broken up. Well, when you sign up for the military you agree not only to a certain period of active duty but also a certain periood as a reservist. These people are merely fulfilling thir obligation.
Now, as to the people(especially young ones)who say they are against the draft. Listen to their reasoning and you will find they all have one thing in common. All of their sentences begin with "I don't want to", or "I don't think", or "Why should I have to"....there is no "I" in country, and if your country calls you go. PERIOD. It's not your place to question the reasoning or motives of your country, because if we all decided not to go because of some reason we wouldn't HAVE a military. Lord knows if the shyt hit the fan I'd go. I wouldn't like it, and I'd be scared as hell, but I'd go. Why? Because of a buddy who made a statement to me the other day that floored me. I told him our next big skirmish would be with China, and it's gonna be a bloody one. He told me that if it came to that, he'd enlist even though he's 41yo. Why? Because, in his exact words:
"I'd rather die a free man than live as a citizen of a communist dictatorship like China."
Pretty big difference from the cowards who worry only about themselves. I for one think we should bring back the draft for one reason: The liberal population of the country would drop by about 90% within 5 days if they knew they might have to actually be in the military.:eek:

N2Lake
07-10-2004, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by rrrr
AzDon, I didn't even bother reading the three pages of responses to your bullshlt. Just wanted to say f*ck you and learn the truth about what is going on.
Too bad you are one of those that thinks we must apologize for being Americans.
Ditto that

HM
07-10-2004, 07:18 AM
Everyone knows AzCommie is a pinko liberal bastard who has problems with authority figures.
Besides, we should all be grateful to the dems since Al Gore invented the internet.:rolleyes:
C'mon!!

spectratoad
07-10-2004, 07:32 AM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Exactly... another government benefit... not a REAL military obligation. Believe me, when my son joined the army... he KNEW what he was signing up for... and so did I... which bothered me with Clinton in the office who didn't support the military particularly well.
I watched on the news about these guys whining that may be getting called back to duty. THey showed that one guy who needs to back away from the table whining about how he did his time.
My first enlistment was what they called a 6YO(6 year obligation)
4 active, 1 reserve & 1 Inactive reserve. (I think) You are responsible to keep yourself available & fit for duty. I never had to do it though cuz I am now hitting 18 years! :D :D
So these guys whining about how they did their time need to shut the F*&K up and finish their obligation.
Oh & F Micheal Moore.

Cas
07-10-2004, 07:36 AM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me. I wanna see it again anyway! If you all haven't seen it yet, you better go see where your boy GW's oil companies got their original financing. If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
This has got to be the most asinine thing I've read here in months. This guy is going to see a MOVIE based on someone's PERSONAL viewpoint and to boot, it's friggin michael moore!
unphuckingbelievable!
oh yea, he then says everyone else is ignorant
hahahahahahahaha
ya know what, it's actually pretty sad that people rely on a movie instead of finding out on their own. WOW!

HighRoller
07-10-2004, 09:16 AM
But he got the truth straight from Bush-is-a-poopyhead.com so it must be true. It would be one thing if Moore engaged young people in a frank and open debate about why he thinks Bush is the wrong man for the office. But when he uses half the truth and presents left wing activists as "objective" sources and call his movie a "documentary", it's just wrong. If he is so sure of his facts, why does he refuse to debate anyone on them? He's scared to go on O'Reilly(he'd get bitch slapped), Hannity(he'd get buried by the facts) or even Michael Savage.(Savage would tear him a new one!) A side note-I'd like to see the almighty and "intelligent" Howard Stern debate Michael Savage sometime. They both qualify as "shock jocks", but after Stern made a fool out of retarded people I think it's only fair somebody make him look like the retard he is. Savage would eat him for lunch and shyt him down the toilet where he belongs!

MagicMtnDan
07-10-2004, 09:20 AM
F Howard Stern
F Michael Moore
F AzDon
F John Kerry Edwards

dale459us
07-10-2004, 09:20 AM
For anyone that would think that a movie depicts reality should seek help immediately. Mike Moore it's nothing but fat with a mouth attached. It's a shame that anyone would even care to see his movie. GW is a good man and has elected to protect Americans rather than winning a popularity contest as the wishey washey Democrats seem to think is more important..Tell me one thing that Kerry hasn't hanged his mind on during this race....He is one big lame excuse of a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Debbolas
07-10-2004, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by dale459us
For anyone that would think that a movie depicts reality should seek help immediately. Mike Moore it's nothing but fat with a mouth attached. It's a shame that anyone would even care to see his movie. GW is a good man and has elected to protect Americans rather than winning a popularity contest as the wishey washey Democrats seem to think is more important..Tell me one thing that Kerry hasn't hanged his mind on during this race....He is one big lame excuse of a man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My favorite part of Kerry's campaign so far was when the Young Republicans showed up at one of his speeches waving flip flops in the air!!
LOL:D

angry dad
07-10-2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
F Howard Stern
F Michael Moore
F AzDon
F John Kerry Edwards that about sums it up for me:D

Magic34
07-10-2004, 10:55 AM
Let's quote John Kerry.......
"I voted for the war before I voted against it."
We can go on for hours......
Nevermind, just vote for Kerry and take in a few illegals give them healthcare, a house, food, and when they break the law, just tell them to stop it because it hurts your feelings.

Jeanyus
07-10-2004, 10:56 AM
I am not going to see the Michail Moore movie, Because I expect to get my propaganda for free!
I read the military report on Kerrys 3rd Purple Peart (the one he used as his ticket out of Vietnam) apparently he got a scratch on his arm. His comanding officer was not going to sign the OK but ended up sigining by mistake. And his other 2 purple hearts were questionable. Wonder what he would say if you asked him to see the scars?
To call Kerry a war hero, takes away from those who served this great country, and are true hero's.
If we are flying the flag at half staff for 30 days for Pres. Reagan,
will we have to wear our pants around our knees for 30 days when Clinton dies?

ratso
07-10-2004, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Jeanyus
I am not going to see the Michail Moore movie, Because I expect to get my propaganda for free!
I read the military report on Kerrys 3rd Purple Peart (the one he used as his ticket out of Vietnam) apparently he got a scratch on his arm. His comanding officer was not going to sign the OK but ended up sigining by mistake. And his other 2 purple hearts were questionable. Wonder what he would say if you asked him to see the scars?
To call Kerry a war hero, takes away from those who served this great country, and are true hero's.
If we are flying the flag at half staff for 30 days for Pres. Reagan,
will we have to wear our pants around our knees for 30 days when Clinton dies?
Just couldn't keep quiet any longer huh???
Welcome jeanyus.:D

gramps
07-10-2004, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
If you vote without seeing this movie, you are ignorant.
If you believe what is portrayed in the movie as the truth you are a fool.

AleAlchemist
07-10-2004, 12:20 PM
I think it is important to remember that the movie is not just facts, its also EDITED!
Its like the real world, where they make a little b*%ch look like a real C&nt!
Not saying that bush is a saint, but when was the last time we had a Pres that wasn't self serving, the big difference is that bush toke it to an international level, instead of just screwing us, he mixed it up a little with foriegn affairs.
I dont want to give up me civil liberties, but damn i hate that kerry, is the only other option.
I really don't like Kerry! just looking at him makes me shutter.
Im voting for The Reverend Jessey Jackson!

Squirtin Thunder
07-10-2004, 12:31 PM
VOTE For ROSS

1stepcloser
07-10-2004, 01:27 PM
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/398BSPRES.jpg

chevydog
07-10-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by AzDon
about Kerry.....I'm not really thrilled about him, but he did earn a Purple Heart in Vietnam!
So did forest gump you gona vote for him if he runs....

Propchecker
07-10-2004, 04:16 PM
I doubt Kerry has ever really earned a living let alone his purple hearts. Edwards has though, by contributing to one of, if not the worst current trends going in the country right now (the abuse and milking of our legal system).

Dr. Eagle
07-10-2004, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Propchecker
I doubt Kerry has ever really earned a living let alone his purple hearts. Edwards has though, by contributing to one of, if not the worst current trends going in the country right now (the abuse and milking of our legal system).
That's why I called him an ambulance chaser... he is a schmuck trial lawyer that feeds on corporations... I personally hate the type!

Propchecker
07-10-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
That's why I called him an ambulance chaser... he is a schmuck trial lawyer that feeds on corporations... I personally hate the type! Yup, and everyone who signs the front side of a paycheck instead of the back gets rewarded for their hard work and risk taking with outrageous ins. costs , etc. thanks to these worthless bastards. Jesse Jackson definitly fits a similar profile and is worthless as tits on a boarhog.

Over 18
07-10-2004, 10:23 PM
John Kerry wouldn't have been my first choice for the dem. nomination either, but after seeing Fahrenheit 9/11, I'm in anybody-but-Bush mode. As far as I'm concerned, it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.

MagicMtnDan
07-10-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Over 18
John Kerry wouldn't have been my first choice for the dem. nomination either, but after seeing Fahrenheit 9/11, I'm in anybody-but-Bush mode. As far as I'm concerned, it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.
Yeah, it's our duty to see that propaganda film and our duty to download a bootleg of the movie.
It's your duty to read a list of books on how the liberals will turn this country into a socialist state like all of Europe and Canada. And it's your duty to rip off movies and music by downloading bootlegs.
Why don't you get the hypocracy of your beliefs and actions?!

Over 18
07-10-2004, 10:33 PM
Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
Why don't you get the hypocracy of your beliefs and actions?!
Because I don't have much of an imagination. ;)

Jordy
07-11-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Little Wood Boat
I can't even stand to read "HOLLYWOOD AZ DON"S" B U L L S H I T. Like Jordy said awhile ago " go f u c k- up your site with this trash.
Hey thanks. I took your idea and started a thread with a link to Commie Don's website. I hope you'll all take the time to go register and clutter up his site with topics like "Kerry blows Moore on a regular basis. I have pics. " :D

Rexone
07-11-2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by AzDon
I'm leaving right now to take Nick to see Fahrenheit 9/11 because for some reason it got an R rating and he can't get in without me.
And here all this time I thought he was Over 18.
The falsities just keep coming. :D

HighRoller
07-11-2004, 01:23 AM
For every "so called" source Michael Moore has, there are three that discredit him. Amazing that since he claims to be an independant seeking the truth he didn't do a movie on "Ron Brown's murder". Author:Jack Cashill. A true factual documentary about how Ron Brown, while traveling to Croatia to negotiate a deal between the Croatian Gov't and ENRON for president Klinton, was killed in a plane crash when the IFR system mysteriously guided the plane to make a perfect landing one mile short of the landing strip. Myseriously, again, the regular operator of the IFR beacon was absent from work that day and was discovered two days later dead with a gunshot wound to his chest.
In an unrelated fact, the leader of Croatia whom Brown was scheduled to meet was sick with cancer. 7 days after Brown's crash, this same leader checked into Walter Reed Army hospital in Virginia for cancer treatment. Must have been a coincidence. All these facts can be proven. Can you say "Quid Pro Quo"?

Rexone
07-11-2004, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by Over 18
As far as I'm concerned, it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.
Now that's an "American building" idea :rolleyes:
Stealing movie proceeds from the same guy you promote as some kind of god. I guess wealth preservation isn't all that bad an idea after all huh Nick. Funny where double standards appear when you least expect them.

HighRoller
07-11-2004, 02:19 AM
Oops...sorry about that (I.Q.Barely)Over18...I forgot since you've been educated by Michael Moore, facts are irrelevant. Anytime you're willing to sack up and present objective facts about G.W. Bush from someone other than your Daddy or Bush-lies-and-is-a-child-raper.com, step up. I've got the ammo to shoot you down anytime you wish. As Senator Lurch said, BRING IT ON AND BRING A WHEELCHAIR BOUND KID FOR MY VEEP!

bigq
07-11-2004, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Over 18
John Kerry wouldn't have been my first choice for the dem. nomination either, but after seeing Fahrenheit 9/11, I'm in anybody-but-Bush mode. As far as I'm concerned, it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.
If that's not liberal thinking I don't know what is. :rolleyes: F911's facts are so distorted that if you believe it all Micheal Moore has achieved his goal in using you as a political tool. At least try to sort out the falsehoods, jeez, not even one question.:confused:

sam pioske
07-11-2004, 07:54 AM
Ron Browns plane went in because of bieng misguided!!! A F vip piolts have made that landing hundreds of times, piolt could'nt have made that mistake on his own..........

SoCalOffshore
07-11-2004, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by Over 18
John Kerry wouldn't have been my first choice for the dem. nomination either, but after seeing Fahrenheit 9/11, I'm in anybody-but-Bush mode. As far as I'm concerned, it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.
It is really sad that someone would formulate opinions based upon a BS propaganda film which is based upon lies and mis-truths and NOT fact. Michael Moore should be hung as a traitor!

AzDon
07-11-2004, 08:34 AM
Two things-
"Over18" is not Nick! I don't know who "Over 18" is, But I welcome anyone who is willing to stand up against the venomous, name-calling haters here!
The other thing is that, unlike the ***boat "Sandbar" forum, none of the forums at v-driveboat allow political or religious topics because they turn divisive and hateful almost immediately and most people are so closed-minded that they aren't going to learn or consider the other guy's ideology anyway!
I have left the first few posts in the thread started by Highroller because they are somewhat humorous and don't include any namecalling or abusive behavior.
I have a sense of humor and refrain from abusive behavior everywhere I go on the internet (I have more class than that!)and will consider and research thoughtful responses to anything I post AND I'm willing to tolerate the abuse I recieve on boards that appear to allow it.
I WILL NOT TOLERATE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR OF ANY KIND ON V-DRIVEBOAT.COM FORUMS AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS

Dribble
07-11-2004, 09:33 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by AzDon
[B]ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
Lets look at the original post.
I attacked and took over two countries.
( The first one was harboring the man who slaughtered 3,000 of us. The second one was the country that attacked, raped and pillaged a neighbor, gee just like Hitler).
I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
(Without any help from Congress)?
I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
(Ditto)
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period.
(Explain how the president did that all by himself).
I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
(September 14, 2001, what a shock).
I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
(And this is wrong because)???
I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
(DUI is a misdemeanor, lying to a Grand Jury is a felony).
In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs.
(That's normal employment turnover).
I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
(Without help from Congress)???
I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
(All by myself).
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
(Not True, adjusted for inflation Jimmy Carter did and any Bozo knows that's not what the reserves are for).
I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
(Otherwise known as a mega wah).
Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
(And this is wrong because)????
I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
(And now there are no state programs or government workers anywhere).
I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
(Yeah that's GW's fault).
I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
(We didn't attack and occupy Germany)???
I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
(They've always been irrelevent).
I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
(Thank you GW).
I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
(Ditto).
I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1).
(Hey Einstein, that is the procedure for any leader when we're under attack).
I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
(ooooooh).
I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
(Yeah Great Britain and the rest of the 20 some countries in the coalition hate us).
I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
(France and Spain, enough said).
I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
(Remember the sixties)????
I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
(Just wrong).
and
Wah Wah Wah....

Jordy
07-11-2004, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Rexone
And here all this time I thought he was Over 18.
The falsities just keep coming. :D
He's not over 18, even though he's Over18. Now I see what Commie Don was saying... :D

Dr. Eagle
07-11-2004, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Over 18
it is the duty of all voting (or non-voting, for that matter) Americans to see this movie--or, at the very least, to download a bootleg off Kazaa.
How dare you Jr. Don't you EVER try to tell me what my duty is... especially when you propose that I have to see your commie BS movie. My duty is to think for myself... and I think John Kerry is a menace to this country... a menace that could ultimately destroy our country. People like you are too naive to see that our country is being attacked at every level by the islamo facists.
YOu claimed that we flattened Iraq... then what are all of those people doing walking around the streets and markets? What are all of those buildings we see on the news? You live in your own little world and ought to just stay there... and yes I will buy you a one way ticket out of here just like Riodog...
You compare us to Hiltler... you should be ashamed of yourself. Grow up, oh and Screw you and the horse you rode in on.

Jeanyus
07-11-2004, 11:07 AM
I WILL NOT TOLERATE ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR OF ANY KIND ON V-DRIVEBOAT.COM FORUMS AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS
translation onto english.
I WIL SILENCE THE VOICES OF THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH MY EXTREME LIBERAL OPINION.

Dr. Eagle
07-11-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Rexone
Now that's an "American building" idea :rolleyes:
Stealing movie proceeds from the same guy you promote as some kind of god. I guess wealth preservation isn't all that bad an idea after all huh Nick. Funny where double standards appear when you least expect them.
Funny I was thinking the same thing... except I was seeing red from that "its every American's Duty to see this movie" crap. What a load... and I have a problem with Kazaa even though it would in some respects make me happy to see Michael Moore losing money. Stealing is stealing... so where did Jr. learn that stealing is OK?