AZDon, Why?

[CAHotRodBoy]

Do you post threads like this:
http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51919
when you know that probably 99% on the members will disagree with what you have to say? Do you actually think you can change anyoneÂ’s minds? Do you think you are doing any good?
I’m just wondering if you are just here to stir up sh!t or if you really think you can gain some political allies. If it is the former, then we all know what you are. If it is the later then I’m afraid you are more naïve than you (and all of us) think. I think you’d have better luck creating a post that says powerboats suck, sail boats are the only way to go.:eek: :D
Now, don’t get me wrong. You have the right to post anything you’d like (within the confines of the forum host) but you know the saying, arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics…..even if you win, you’re still a retard (yea, I know it’s not politically correct to say “retard’, get over it!).:D :D
So do me a favor and answer this and only this question without adding any political rhetoric. IÂ’d really like to know why you post this stuff. Thanks in advance, for clearing it up! :)

[Jordy]

I wonder why he posts and replies to half, wait, who am I kidding, all that he does over here. Especially when he said:
Originally posted by AzDon
The other thing is that, unlike the ***boat "Sandbar" forum, none of the forums at v-driveboat allow political or religious topics because they turn divisive and hateful almost immediately and most people are so closed-minded that they aren't going to learn or consider the other guy's ideology anyway!
If you're not going to gain anything and don't want it on your board, why bring it over here? Not getting enough attention at home?
Funny thing, your site seems to be a great resource for the v-drive crowd, and I can honestly say that I've learned quite a bit over there.
However, it baffles the hell out of me why you turn into such a waste of oxygen when you come over here. Have you ever posted anything helpful over here? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 99.9% of everything you've posted over here has been the kind of bulls#it you don't want on your boards.

[Jrocket]

I think he uses this place for a garbage can! :D No respect.

[Lake Pirate]

I know I'm the troll and all but... why is his post a problem? It looks as though he found a viewpoint that supports how he feels and he posted it. Isn't that what the internet is all about? (Sharing ideologies and debate?) I didn't read the entire thread cuz I know what a pack of hyenas y'all can be if someone has an opposing view. You do know that if you disagree with the content of a thread you every right to ignore it... don't you?

[Jrocket]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I know I'm the troll and all but... why is his post a problem? It looks as though he found a viewpoint that supports how he feels and he posted it. Isn't that what the internet is all about? (Sharing ideologies and debate?) I didn't read the entire thread cuz I know what a pack of hyenas y'all can be if someone has an opposing view. You do know that if you disagree with the content of a thread you every right to ignore it... don't you?
The problem is that Hot Boat will let politics be posted here,so he runs with it stirring everybody up in the process.But no way will that be tolerated on his site.Hes just taking advantage of what he can do here with out any bacl lash from the admin,just gets beat from the posters is all.:D

[Lake Pirate]

It's debateable. He made a fair post that for the most part (interpretational) was factual. That is NOT stirring things up. That is offering material for debate. Your job is to devaluate the information he posted using logic and information. The only way that his post should be construed as "stirring it up" would be if you are a dunderhead and can't debate your position. Based on all the crying I see from you guys...he won hands down.

[AzDon]

Originally posted by CAHotRodBoy
Do you post threads like this:
http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51919
when you know that probably 99% on the members will disagree with what you have to say? Do you actually think you can change anyoneÂ’s minds? Do you think you are doing any good?
I’m just wondering if you are just here to stir up sh!t or if you really think you can gain some political allies. If it is the former, then we all know what you are. If it is the later then I’m afraid you are more naïve than you (and all of us) think. I think you’d have better luck creating a post that says powerboats suck, sail boats are the only way to go.:eek: :D
Now, don’t get me wrong. You have the right to post anything you’d like (within the confines of the forum host) but you know the saying, arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics…..even if you win, you’re still a retard (yea, I know it’s not politically correct to say “retard’, get over it!).:D :D
So do me a favor and answer this and only this question without adding any political rhetoric. IÂ’d really like to know why you post this stuff. Thanks in advance, for clearing it up! :)
Because you asked nicely:
Wouldn't this place be damn boring without a little controversy?
I enjoy the good tidbits of discussion almost as much as I deplore the verbal abuse. I know I'm probably not going to change the minds of closed-minded people but I'm addicted to the possibility that some of the otherwise smart folks on here will eventually either admit that their Guy (Bush) is a turkey or that they aren't capable of unbiased logical thought. I'm fully willing and able to consider positive info about the guy....if it actually exists!
If I wanted to do a political website, I would. My site is a boating site that I maintain for my boating friends who mostly disagree with me politically. I'm not going to allow abusive behavior on my site or the subjects that ignite that behavior. The WWF-like atmosphere over here is what makes this place interesting. How interesting would it really be if I just disappeared?

[AzDon]

Originally posted by jordanpaulk
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However, it baffles the hell out of me why you turn into such a waste of oxygen when you come over here. Have you ever posted anything helpful over here? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that 99.9% of everything you've posted over here has been the kind of bulls#it you don't want on your boards.
Well we're even Jordy because I can't remember seeing ANYTHING that you've posted that wasn't abusive, let alone useful or helpful. I'd be reeeeal interested in knowing what kind of useful info you've shared....
BTW- thanks for the complement about my website!

[NorCal Gameshow]

Originally posted by AzDon
Because you asked nicely:
Wouldn't this place be damn boring without a little controversy?
No.
jokin' around , telling about your weekend.etc.etc. is not boring .
someone like you coming in stirring s*** is.....

[CAHotRodBoy]

Originally posted by AzDon
Because you asked nicely:
Wouldn't this place be damn boring without a little controversy?
I enjoy the good tidbits of discussion almost as much as I deplore the verbal abuse. I know I'm probably not going to change the minds of closed-minded people but I'm addicted to the possibility that some of the otherwise smart folks on here will eventually either admit that their Guy (Bush) is a turkey or that they aren't capable of unbiased logical thought. I'm fully willing and able to consider positive info about the guy....if it actually exists!
If I wanted to do a political website, I would. My site is a boating site that I maintain for my boating friends who mostly disagree with me politically. I'm not going to allow abusive behavior on my site or the subjects that ignite that behavior. The WWF-like atmosphere over here is what makes this place interesting. How interesting would it really be if I just disappeared?
Azdon,
Please don’t confuse controversy with interest. And your statement of, “they aren't capable of unbiased logical thought” can just as easily apply to yourself. I know you will state that, “As soon as someone can reply with a truthful, logical argument, I will change my mind”. The problem is that you are just as set in your opinions as everyone else and “truthful and logical” are subject to your interpretation. Just as you may feel “it’s just sex” others may feel that is “irresponsible, immoral, dishonest, cheating, and screwing around on our dollar”. Which is the truth? Depends on your interpretation.
“The WWF-like atmosphere over here is what makes this place interesting. How interesting would it really be if I just disappeared?”
I don’t find the WWF interesting at all nor do I find your posts and their subsequent replies interesting. I do find them to be childish, petty and vindictive (the replies too). I may find your opinions about boating interesting but to be honest, I don’t know if I have ever seen one from you. I don’t think anyone here wants you to go away. I think most here would just prefer that you don’t post your political rants just to still up heated arguments that go nowhere. Personally, I just wish everyone that disagrees with you would just ignore your posts, ‘cause it’s like arguing with a frigin’ Hari chrishna! :eek: :D :D

[Jrocket]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It's debateable. He made a fair post that for the most part (interpretational) was factual. That is NOT stirring things up. That is offering material for debate. Your job is to devaluate the information he posted using logic and information. The only way that his post should be construed as "stirring it up" would be if you are a dunderhead and can't debate your position. Based on all the crying I see from you guys...he won hands down.
Depends on what side of the fence your looking at it from.Im not into debating politics at all.Not what I care to do,no real answer in the end ususally.
If a little controversy is ok in his mind then maybe he should alow it over in his forums?
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This place is far from boring.

[CAHotRodBoy]

Speaking of interesting...take a look at JRockets reply to "let's see some pics" post. That's what I find interesting (on a boating forum)! Oh, and Mandelon's too! :D :D :D

[FRENCHIE]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
for the most part (interpretational) was factual.
Not true.... it was spin... realize it, recognize it and admit it.

[Lake Pirate]

Prove it.

[HM]

Why?
That is like asking why sun rises in the east......don't spend much time on it.
Besides, he is just big boned.

[Lake Pirate]

I dunno? I'm no psychologist but it looks as thought the tight right dismisses any information that might challenge their blind obedience to the party? Zeig heil!

[Jrocket]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I dunno? I'm no psychologist but it looks as thought the tight right dismisses any information that might challenge their blind obedience to the party? Zeig heil!
Lost me there,does Mercury racing sell it?:D

[Lake Pirate]

Yes. It's called product loyalty. Some folks have blind loyalty to a particular manufacturer because their Daddy bought it (or whatever?) The same is true with politics. Some people don't challenge their leadership. They blindly follow. This led to facism in Italy and the Third Reich in Germany. (Prolly didn't hurt Pol Pot either?) There are also many examples in ancient history. No good ever comes from blind obedience to politicians. The initial post of AzDon's reeks of many truths. Some inflated. Some not. As the keeper of your childrens future it is your duty to know which is which.

[Coach]

So AZdon who are you going to vote for Kerry or Nader (if he is running)?:confused:

[AzDon]

Originally posted by Coach
So AZdon who are you going to vote for Kerry or Nader (if he is running)?:confused:
I will vote for the candidate that has the best chance of preventing Bush's election!

[MagicMtnDan]

Originally posted by AzDon
I will vote for the candidate that has the best chance of preventing Bush's election!
That would be George Bush. Once he's re-elected he can't run again. :D

[ratso]

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
That would be George Bush. Once he's re-elected he can't run again. :D
Excellent MMD.:D

[mike37]

Originally posted by CAHotRodBoy
Azdon,
Please don’t confuse controversy with interest. And your statement of, “they aren't capable of unbiased logical thought” can just as easily apply to yourself. I know you will state that, “As soon as someone can reply with a truthful, logical argument, I will change my mind”. The problem is that you are just as set in your opinions as everyone else and “truthful and logical” are subject to your interpretation. Just as you may feel “it’s just sex” others may feel that is “irresponsible, immoral, dishonest, cheating, and screwing around on our dollar”. Which is the truth? Depends on your interpretation.
“The WWF-like atmosphere over here is what makes this place interesting. How interesting would it really be if I just disappeared?”
I don’t find the WWF interesting at all nor do I find your posts and their subsequent replies interesting. I do find them to be childish, petty and vindictive (the replies too). I may find your opinions about boating interesting but to be honest, I don’t know if I have ever seen one from you. I don’t think anyone here wants you to go away. I think most here would just prefer that you don’t post your political rants just to still up heated arguments that go nowhere. Personally, I just wish everyone that disagrees with you would just ignore your posts, ‘cause it’s like arguing with a frigin’ Hari chrishna! :eek: :D :D
ya what he said

[mike37]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I dunno? I'm no psychologist but it looks as thought the tight right dismisses any information that might challenge their blind obedience to the party? Zeig heil!
same with the left

[Lake Pirate]

Same with the left?
Do you even read political news? The entire reason the democratic party is split is because there is no blind allegiance. Nowadays being a liberal is questioning authority and basing decisions on world information instead of hugging trees and hand feeding terminal species. To my amazement most righties do not even know the difference in Dems and Regs by definition. They can only spew some arbitrary rhetoric about the left being socialists. Information is free and readily available. You only have to want it.

[Debbolas]

Originally posted by MagicMtnDan
That would be George Bush. Once he's re-elected he can't run again. :D
LMAO!!!!:D

[callbob4homes]

I don't normally get into debates about politics or religon, both are open to untold and oftimes tired same old personal views.;)
but I have always been a proponet of another theory in the election process of having another choice. That of "none of the above". At some point we are going to have to get someone in charge that doesn't have their own personal (or for that matter, someone else's personal) interests at heart. Cut out the perks, cut out the "politically correct" crap and do what is right for this country. F*ck the rest of the world for now, lets get our sh!t together first. We have enough problems at home without curing the rest of the worlds problems. How many trillions of dollars in debt are we and who did it go to? and how expensive was that cigar that Monica "smoked"? :D
Please send all cash contributions to me and I'll buy a new go fast boat and run the campaign trail from the sandbar or Steamboat cove. More beads and pasties for my crew!:p

[mike37]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Same with the left?
Do you even read political news? The entire reason the democratic party is split is because there is no blind allegiance. Nowadays being a liberal is questioning authority and basing decisions on world information instead of hugging trees and hand feeding terminal species. To my amazement most righties do not even know the difference in Dems and Regs by definition. They can only spew some arbitrary rhetoric about the left being socialists. Information is free and readily available. You only have to want it.
you must love to hear your self talk

[Lake Pirate]

I love the fact you read it and then answer like a unibrow. I really do not care which way you vote. America is all about freedom. Including the freedom to vote your conscience. I get frustrated when I can tell you are misinformed and espousing incongruent fiction. I can throw out information all day long but I can't change stupid.

[callbob4homes]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I can throw out information all day long but I can't change stupid. [/B]
Sure you can, just listen once in awhile:wink:

[mike37]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I love the fact you read it and then answer like a unibrow. I really do not care which way you vote. America is all about freedom. Including the freedom to vote your conscience. I get frustrated when I can tell you are misinformed and espousing incongruent fiction. I can throw out information all day long but I can't change stupid.
you can chang man you can just try open your mind
your a smart man use that mind of yours

[Lake Pirate]

Reverse psychology? My gawd... how sinister can you be? I can feel myself wanting to read the Drudge report and eschew my remaining allegiance to the Bill Clinton panty-a month-club. You bastards!

[Jeanyus]

Prove it.
I attacked and took over two countries.
It took bush less time to take Iraq, than it took the Clinton administration to take the dividian compound in Waco. What crime did David Koresch commit ?
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period.
Somehow the president is responsible, for people geting into credit card debt over thier head ?
I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
You cannot become president if you are a convicted crimnal.
I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
Was the federal prisoner a saint? Or a muderer?
I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
Unemployment why should people get paid for not working? The only people I know that are collecting unemployment, either don't want to work, or are working for cash and collecting unemployment.
I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
That would make sense since more people own houses than under the previous president. And the banks are loaning people more than 100 % equity in thier homes to the point where it, makes more financial sense to forclose, than to pay creditors.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Gas prices have risen under every president. The president after Bush will preside over the highest gas prices in history.
I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
My father inlaw is a ww II vet and all his medical needs are being taken care of.
The list goes on if you give it a little thought Azdons list is bologna, misleading, and deceitful.
Give me some one to vote for who is better than Bush and he's got my vote.
Kerrys slogan vote for me Because I hate Bush says nothing. And anyone that excepts that is aimlesly following.
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.

[mike37]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Reverse psychology? My gawd... how sinister can you be? I can feel myself wanting to read the Drudge report and eschew my remaining allegiance to the Bill Clinton panty-a month-club. You bastards!
psychology thats a big word and you want me to use it backwards
can you give me a Definition of that word so I can get it right

[Over 18]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Same with the left?
Do you even read political news? The entire reason the democratic party is split is because there is no blind allegiance. Nowadays being a liberal is questioning authority and basing decisions on world information instead of hugging trees and hand feeding terminal species. To my amazement most righties do not even know the difference in Dems and Regs by definition. They can only spew some arbitrary rhetoric about the left being socialists. Information is free and readily available. You only have to want it.
Right on, LP. It sometimes seems to me like the conservative folks on this message board don't participate in these threads to THINK and to LEARN. Instead, they gang up on anybody who doesn't conform to their uncompromising, twisted vision of a "true American". It seems to me that if they don't want to (can't) debate in a civilized manner, then they shouldn't participate in these political threads. And if they aren't able to restrain themselves from entering threads of political nature and calling participants names and discounting everything the participants say, then there must be something they're trying to cover up. There's gotta be some reason that they feel the need to "protect" bystanders from educational discussion that supports liberal viewpoints...

[Lake Pirate]

Great response Jeanyus. The only fault I see in it was your response to Bushs' taking Iraq in less time than it took to take Waco. We haven't taken Iraq. They (smartly) led us in to the canyon. Allowed us to become complacent and then began their real attack. The war is just on.

[mike37]

Originally posted by Over 18
Right on, LP. It sometimes seems to me like the conservative folks on this message board don't participate in these threads to THINK and to LEARN. Instead, they gang up anybody who doesn't conform to their uncompromising, twisted vision of a "true American". It seems to me that if they don't want to (can't) debate in a civilized manner, then they shouldn't participate in these political threads. And if they aren't able to restrain themselves from entering threads of political nature and calling participants names and discounting everything the participants say, then there must be something they're trying to cover up. There's gotta be some reason that they feel the need to "protect" bystanders from educational discussion that supports liberal viewpoints... over 18 he has ben around so long he now lots a stuff
I was smart back when I was 18 but I got older and stupid

[Lake Pirate]

over18 ~ it's called spin. That's what the uninformed use to deter from the facts and dissuade their prey. It's really kinda funny to watch. I don't mind the "pack of jackals" mentality nor the obvious derailment from the topic. It's all part of the fun.

[Jeanyus]

LP
Sorry if the politicians would untie the hands of the military we would own Iraq. But it is not politcally correct to kill all of them so we have to put up with the car bombings and so on. Thanks for the compliment.

[Over 18]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
over18 ~ it's called spin. That's what the uninformed use to deter from the facts and dissuade their prey. It's really kinda funny to watch. I don't mind the "pack of jackals" mentality nor the obvious derailment from the topic. It's all part of the fun.
...But are they uninformed, or are they informed but frustrated that there are no rational arguments against their opponents' views? Sometimes it comes across to me as complete ignorance, and sometimes it comes across as brutal dishonesty.

[mike37]

IM interested in over18"s response to Jeanyus post

[Lake Pirate]

Your welcome.
I've always said...kill them all or give them what they want. (Palestine not Iraq.) Well...maybe Iraq too.

[Over 18]

Originally posted by mike37
IM interested in over18"s response to Jeanyus post
Why's that?
Anyway, I fully believe that we should pull back and resume bombing until the Muslim world shows us some love... It's not exactly politically correct, but then again nothing's really politically correct about this war. There's my response.

[Lake Pirate]

I think it's uninformed. There is a trend in this country to commit your political allegiance because you think it means your cool instead of informed. Therefore we have many many people who cannot defend their choice vis-a-vis debate. They (understandably) resort to nuance, innuendo and accusation.

[mike37]

Originally posted by Over 18
Why's that? Lake Pirate tel him why

[Lake Pirate]

Hellifiknow?
Besides...he did!

[Jeanyus]

Unfortunately they will not be satified if you give them palistine.
In the Koran it calls for them to lay in wait for the opportunity to kill all infadels. So it looks like we are left with kill them, or be killed.

[mike37]

Originally posted by Jeanyus
Prove it.
I attacked and took over two countries.
It took bush less time to take Iraq, than it took the Clinton administration to take the dividian compound in Waco. What crime did David Koresch commit ?
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period.
Somehow the president is responsible, for people geting into credit card debt over thier head ?
I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
You cannot become president if you are a convicted crimnal.
I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
Was the federal prisoner a saint? Or a muderer?
I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
Unemployment why should people get paid for not working? The only people I know that are collecting unemployment, either don't want to work, or are working for cash and collecting unemployment.
I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
That would make sense since more people own houses than under the previous president. And the banks are loaning people more than 100 % equity in thier homes to the point where it, makes more financial sense to forclose, than to pay creditors.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Gas prices have risen under every president. The president after Bush will preside over the highest gas prices in history.
I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
My father inlaw is a ww II vet and all his medical needs are being taken care of.
The list goes on if you give it a little thought Azdons list is bologna, misleading, and deceitful.
Give me some one to vote for who is better than Bush and he's got my vote.
Kerrys slogan vote for me Because I hate Bush says nothing. And anyone that excepts that is aimlesly following.
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.
I ment this post any truth to it

[Lake Pirate]

We do not know for sure because they have never been given Palestine. The Koran (like the Bible) is interprentational.

[Over 18]

I don't care about Palestine. My main concern is the economic and social welfare of the United States.

[mike37]

Originally posted by Jeanyus
Prove it.
I attacked and took over two countries.
It took bush less time to take Iraq, than it took the Clinton administration to take the dividian compound in Waco. What crime did David Koresch commit ?
I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 2-month period.
Somehow the president is responsible, for people geting into credit card debt over thier head ?
I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
You cannot become president if you are a convicted crimnal.
I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
Was the federal prisoner a saint? Or a muderer?
I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
Unemployment why should people get paid for not working? The only people I know that are collecting unemployment, either don't want to work, or are working for cash and collecting unemployment.
I set the all-time record for the most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
That would make sense since more people own houses than under the previous president. And the banks are loaning people more than 100 % equity in thier homes to the point where it, makes more financial sense to forclose, than to pay creditors.
I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
Gas prices have risen under every president. The president after Bush will preside over the highest gas prices in history.
I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
My father inlaw is a ww II vet and all his medical needs are being taken care of.
The list goes on if you give it a little thought Azdons list is bologna, misleading, and deceitful.
Give me some one to vote for who is better than Bush and he's got my vote.
Kerrys slogan vote for me Because I hate Bush says nothing. And anyone that excepts that is aimlesly following.
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.
Over 18 do you have an opinion on this post is ther any truth to it

[MagicMtnDan]

Originally posted by Over 18
...It seems to me that if they don't want to (can't) debate in a civilized manner, then they shouldn't participate in these political threads.
And now the continuing saga of the hypocrite left-wing who, lacking any semblance of facts and ability or willingness to communicate them, spins tales of lies and deceit. "Under age dude" (daddy's clone), just as soon as YOU start providing FACTS and responding to questions asked of you is when you'll start getting some respect.
To me your distorted, left-wing America-hate posts don't bother me as much as your unwillingness and/or inability to support your position with facts. You and daddy are sinking into quicksand and neither of you ever bother to respond with facts or try to debate. You and your left-wing buddies are bomb-throwers tossing out hate-filled diatribe instead of discussing and debating. Something that very few left-wingers can or try to do.
Why don't you go ask your Daddy for some facts- aw jeez, he doesn't have any either.

[Jeanyus]

The Koran that is in eglish (the only one I can read) calls for the elimination of ALL infadels. If it says something differant in an Islamic language, I wish someone would tell me.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Jeanyus...
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.
Direct Hit!!!!! The Liberal Pirate Ships a taking on water...:rolleyes:

[mike37]

Over 18 hello still waiting for an answer:confused:

[Over 18]

mike37 - The overall question is too general and intimidating. I have no problem with executing a federal prisoner whose guilt is proven, who is, say, Timothy McVeigh. Does that mean I don't agree with other items on the list? No. As with all general lists, there are some points made that are more solid than others.

[Lake Pirate]

Umm... dannyboy? I've reread your posts and I'm sorry to say this (you bein' so self righteous and all) but, you have yet to inject anything into a political thread even remotely resembling debate or fact. You should read your own vacuuous hate posts before you try and express your anger as a "new" thing.

[Over 18]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Originally posted by Jeanyus...
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.
Direct Hit!!!!! The Liberal Pirate Ships a taking on water...:rolleyes:
Actually, AzDon left HighRoller's post up, which is more than I would have done. Does HR even OWN a v-drive boat? If I recall correctly, a couple v-drive guys that expresses conservative viewpoints were NOT banned because they weren't looking for trouble.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Over 18
Actually, AzDon left HighRoller's post up, which is more than I would have done. Does HR even OWN a v-drive boat? If I recall correctly, a couple v-drive guys that expresses conservative viewpoints were NOT banned because they weren't looking for trouble. '
Hmmmmmmmmmmm interesting point. Do you own a boat, or just use daddys?

[Lake Pirate]

jeanyus ~ the word "infidel" is up for debate. It depends on which definition suits your purpose? The same is true of "jihad" and a zillion others. Much like our language and our bible. There are many fundalmentalist Muslims who will tell you that they have no design on war with the West. It just depends.

[Over 18]

I own a 19' flatbottom, actually. Get it? Over 18?

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Over 18
I own a 19' flatbottom, actually. Get it? Over 18?
Ahhhh very clever grasshopper...

[Jeanyus]

Infadel, satan, the head of the snake. It all pionts to us.

[Jeanyus]

I'm sure the victums of 911 are not debating what infadel means.

[Over 18]

Originally posted by Jeanyus
pionts

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Jeanyus
I'm sure the victums of 911 are not debating what infadel means.
No but our smug peacenik buddies on here sure the eff are...:rolleyes:

[Over 18]

infidel n. 1. One who has no religious beliefs 2. Where Bubba's penis will go when Castro is thrown in jail

[mike37]

Originally posted by Over 18
mike37 - The overall question is too general and intimidating. I have no problem with executing a federal prisoner whose guilt is proven, who is, say, Timothy McVeigh. Does that mean I don't agree with other items on the list? No. As with all general lists, there are some points made that are more solid than others. So why did your dad post the original one
The one before Jeanyus edited with his response
Why would he post it as fact ??????
and think we all should change are minds Because he post something so generalized ????
and
lake pirate what do you think of that

[Lake Pirate]

And the right spins. Like I said, I believe earnestly that killing all Muzzies is a good thing. Just not realistic. If we are to believe the interpretations of the Koran at this time in history are carved in stone, then we would have to kill ALL believers. Have you checked out who some Muslims are? I'm betting not. There are some very peaceful loving Muslims who would disagree that your "black and white" interpretation of the Koran is not only wrong but based in paranoia and the expansionistic need of your own religion.

[Over 18]

It's general if a response to each and every point is expected. But what do I care anyway? I don't know AzDon. I'd shake his hand if I did, but I don't... So...oh well.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
And the right spins. Like I said, I believe earnestly that killing all Muzzies is a good thing. Just not realistic. If we are to believe the interpretations of the Koran at this time in history are carved in stone, then we would have to kill ALL believers. Have you checked out who some Muslims are? I'm betting not. There are some very peaceful loving Muslims who would disagree that your "black and white" interpretation of the Koran is not only wrong but based in paranoia and the expansionistic need of your own religion.
Good point... Turkey would be the standout example of a secular state with a Muslim population. Indonesia another, with serious internal disorder however because of the whacko muzzies that want a theocracy there.
Most of the rest are either dictatorships or theocratic states.
And I am an agnostic, personally.

[Jeanyus]

My opinion is not based on paranoia, it is based on fear. I am afriad of what they would do to us if given the chance. I have been told that the muslum religion is a peaceful one, that a small percentage of them are extremists. But when they show the celbrations in Saudi Arabi, Pakistan ,Afganistan, I see 100 % of the people celebrating the events of 911. Are all the peaceful ones hiding at home? Or is the news coverage just more propaganda?
My opinion is pretty black and white, but it is based on what I see and hear, maybee I'm not seeing the big picture, or being told the whole story.
When I am wrong I am the 1st to admit it. If someone can prove me wrong, or change my opinion with facts please do so.

[skippy Mcgee]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
over18 ~ it's called spin. That's what the uninformed use to deter from the facts and dissuade their prey. It's really kinda funny to watch. I don't mind the "pack of jackals" mentality nor the obvious derailment from the topic. It's all part of the fun.
Spin? Something the Left seems to know all about.
"Facts" from Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11
"Moore drops a big number - $1.4 billion - claiming "That's how much the Saudi royals and their associates have given the Bush family, their friends and their related businesses in the past three decades," adding that "$1.4 billion doesn't just buy a lot of flights out of the country. It buys a lot of love." But Isikoff and Hosenball show that nearly 90% of that total comes from contracts awarded by the Saudi government to BDM, a defense contractor owned by Carlyle. But when the contracts were awarded and BDM received the Saudi funds, Bush Sr. had no official involvement with the firm, though he made one paid speech and took an overseas trip on its behalf. He didn't actually join Carlyle's Asian advisory board until after the firm had sold BDM. And though George W. Bush had previously served on the board of another Carlyle company, he left it before BDM received the first Saudi contract. As usual, the connections are loose and circumstantial at best."

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
Originally posted by Jeanyus...
BTW if a person posts something on Azdons site, and it dosent go along with popular opinion. You will get banned for life. Now is that the hypocrite calling you a hypocrite.
Direct Hit!!!!! The Liberal Pirate Ships a taking on water...:rolleyes:
Might as well post it over here too......
http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/MMClubLg.JPG

[schiada96]

Originally posted by Lake Pirate
We do not know for sure because they have never been given Palestine. The Koran (like the Bible) is interprentational.
wrong the bible is the word of my god how about yours?

[Lake Pirate]

Gotta pass on this golden opportunity for now. That's too much thread drift even for me.