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Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 03:40 PM
It seems ex Fox employees are accusing the network of Republican bias. Jeez... I bet they thought no one would notice. lol

RiverToysJas
07-12-2004, 03:42 PM
And that's why we watch!!! ;)
RTJas :D

Dave C
07-12-2004, 03:44 PM
well considering most networks are populated by lefties and they only espouse the left's point of view then I guess fox comes off as right of center, even though they are not.

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 03:48 PM
They are entitled to reflect whatever bias they subscibe to but, what about a news channel lying? Is that OK?
http://www.thebluestate.com/article11-25-03foxnews3.htm

MagicMtnDan
07-12-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
They are entitled to reflect whatever bias they subscibe to but, what about a news channel lying? Is that OK?
http://www.thebluestate.com/article11-25-03foxnews3.htm
Hell YOU lie all the time and we still (have to) listen!

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 04:56 PM
Enlighten me. You have an excellent chance to mortify me in front of everyone. Please repost any lie I have told. No need to file them categorically. :)
Gee... you high IQ guys are intimidating. We all know you are trying to divert attention from the topic because you aren't educated on your own rhetoric but...we'll let you do it...again!

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 05:26 PM
Picking on Fox is pretty easy because even they cannot veil their obvious political agenda. (Kinda like you know who above.)
I have been reading Al Jazeera and cannot find one iota of bias. This is quite shocking and hard to believe so check it out for yourself. Who'da thunk it?
http://www.aljazeera.com/fn689.asp
Expand your horizon boys. There's a world out there.

framer1
07-12-2004, 06:10 PM
Lake Pirate, I have to give it to you you are one smart guy and you write like you do it for a living but you say the same sh%^^t over and over again please be orginal. Believe me i'm not going to argue with you over the internet. I'll lose.

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 06:20 PM
I plan on questioning contemporary christian tenets later in the week. Does that help?
I thought you might enjoy Al Jazeera? It's not what you think it is, which gives it value. Besides...it is important to know they are playing the game of reverse psychology which is winning the war of public opinion globally. We should know that.

RiverToysJas
07-12-2004, 06:31 PM
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/412924~e97b96955f5b5c303716562368ddede8/room20of20those20who20care.jpg

mike37
07-12-2004, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I plan on questioning contemporary christian tenets later in the week. Does that help?
I thought you might enjoy Al Jazeera? It's not what you think it is, which gives it value. Besides...it is important to know they are playing the game of reverse psychology which is winning the war of public opinion globally. We should know that.
your so smart

twistedpair
07-12-2004, 06:33 PM
Lake Pirate reading Al-Jazeera.........There's a shocker.:rolleyes: Here's a news flash for ya Pirate........All news has an angle. If you think there is any truly unbiased news source out there, then you are not nearly as bright and worldly as you like to think you are.

mike37
07-12-2004, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by twistedpair
Lake Pirate reading Al-Jazeera.........There's a shocker.:rolleyes: Here's a news flash for ya Pirate........All news has an angle. If you think there is any truly unbiased news source out there, then you are not nearly as bright and worldly as you like to think you are. Lake Pirate is a good guy he is teechin me some big words because im stupid
And need some lernin so don’t be all mean to him

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 06:43 PM
I never said I was bright or worldly.
Al Jazeera is unique because they know what we expect and do the opposite. As simple as that is...to the world we look like assholes and they look like a simple news service that only reports the news. This is a bad thing considering we actually have to live in the world with them. The more linear our news service becomes the more we look like a product of propoganda to the world. You do not consider this a worthy debate?

JustMVG
07-12-2004, 07:28 PM
LP i suggest to you that if you have Direct TV or Dish, check out LINK TV, they have some very interesting shows, one of which i recently watched and i will say i watched it twice, not because i didn't get it the first tim, i just wanted to make sure that the way the documentary was shot wasen't biased. It was filmed by a french company, guess what Al- Jazeera is the Fox NEWS of the middle East, i have argued my points with you before, i have a personal interest as you know with whats going on over there as do many of the members here who have loved ones or friends stationed over there and in other hot spots in the world and while you come on here and make you're points for whatever reason it gets ugly , all i am saying is that ever since it was invented the press has ALWAYS had some kind of AGENDA, nine out of 10 times it's been political, yes i am sure you'll have some retort to my comments but to be honest i don't really feel like doing all the research i will have to do to just to prove a point which to most here is obvious. OK I'm Done MVG:)

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It seems ex Fox employees are accusing the network of Republican bias. Jeez... I bet they thought no one would notice. lol
Oh, and the Jane Fonda Network, PMSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC are all right down the middle... eh? Get over it LP it's about time a network provided an alternative to Socialist TV.

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 07:36 PM
I believe I said it was ok for a news service to have a political agenda? Outright lying might be bad though...dont'cha think?
MandM... my interest in Al Jazeera stems from the fact that of all news sources, their's seems like it would be the MOST slanted. Yet...it's eerily straight? I am merely pointing out that there is more to the psychology of their web site than meets the eye. I am just digging deeper and discussing it on the internet. I by no means am shallow enough to think any news source is an honest source. One has to have many opinions and be able to read between the lines.

dean51267
07-12-2004, 07:37 PM
Capitalism is like susage, we wll like it, but you probably should not see it being made.
Capitalism is critical to a free economy, is is the life blood of freedom.
Freedom is the right of all mankind, of you believe in a Christain set of beliefs.
So there is the difference, if you believe in slavery you are not a Christain, and if you do not believe in a free economy, you are not a Christain, in fact, being a christain and a Democrat or a terrorist are incompatable.
Of course of you will not follow your beliefs to their natural conclusions, you will vote for anything, and believe anything, which is why believing in a world without consiquidence is a critical factor in being a liberal.

JustMVG
07-12-2004, 07:37 PM
OH and By the way what ever happened to AL FRANKENS Radio station!!! Not enough "Liberals" LISTENED!!!!! Tha darn thing was pulled from over 10 cities, because the ratings sucked, for that matter the owner of the company couldn't even pay his employees whic included MR . Franken

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I believe I said it was ok for a news service to have a political agenda? Outright lying might be bad though...dont'cha think?
So it's OK to lie in a Documentary? Duplicity strikes again...

JustMVG
07-12-2004, 07:43 PM
LP if you want to look at it as an intellectual thing fine, but understand it really is not what you profess it to be, or as you see it, they make the news as easy to understand as possible for the audience they are after, there are messages that are being sent thru Al Jazeera, and no thats not some crazy right wing thinking it is the truth, again i'll prove my point if need be, in fact after August i will bring to you some info that wil blow you away, absolutely no pun intended there, i'll get you the proof. Mike VG

JustMVG
07-12-2004, 07:47 PM
I think the silliest thing to hit is Michael Mooore's having to have a staff to explain away alot of what he did in his "Movie" not a Documentary, because then he'd have to have facts that are not just editing tricks and ploys.

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 07:51 PM
I haven't seen the documentary so I cannot comment.
Al Franken sucked way before he got a radio show. (Liberal or not!)
I am convinced Al Jazeera has some sort of evil (anti American) agenda. No need to dig for evidence to prove it to me. The argument I am making (rather poorly it seems) is that our news service has become so obviously slanted that it is losing credibility in the world market whereas Al Jazeera is gaining influence because of their presentation which seems to be unbiased. (Even though it is.)

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by MandMVG
I think the silliest thing to hit is Michael Mooore's having to have a staff to explain away alot of what he did in his "Movie" not a Documentary, because then he'd have to have facts that are not just editing tricks and ploys.
Richard Clarke stated unequivocally that the premise of the movie as it related to the Bin Laden family being spirited away was false. He stated clearly that it was the State Department's decision, not GW.s to haul them off and that the CIA and FBI were to clear the move before it occurred. This didn't happen, more because they had other fish to fry than any frigging conspiracy...

twistedpair
07-12-2004, 07:57 PM
Tell ya what, Pirate, You finish the debate with yourself, then you can come debate us. In one post "I have been reading Al Jazeera and cannot find one iota of bias. "
In the next post "it is important to know they are playing the game of reverse psychology which is winning the war of public opinion globally. We should know that."
So let's see, Fox is biased and Al-Jazeera is not:confused:
No wonder you're a Kerry fan, He's the only one that can vote FOR something, and at the same time be AGAINST it, and later try to spin it the he was never for it and voted against it. A match made in heaven.:rolleyes:

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 08:19 PM
The point is "obviousness" of bias. It is ok for you to go... the subleties of the point will always be lost on such a mind bereft of synapses. You should really stick to topics such as "my boat is really cool" and "famous rappers." Please tell me you don't vote.

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 08:21 PM
What's that about synapses... or is it your mental lapses...?

Debbolas
07-12-2004, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
I never said I was bright or worldly.
Al Jazeera is unique because they know what we expect and do the opposite. As simple as that is...to the world we look like assholes and they look like a simple news service that only reports the news. This is a bad thing considering we actually have to live in the world with them. The more linear our news service becomes the more we look like a product of propoganda to the world. You do not consider this a worthy debate?
Ok, put the pipe down and step away from the computer....how in the **** can you possibly think, feel, decide, report to us that others think....... that Al Jazeera is a simple news service.
:eek: :yuk:

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 08:22 PM
Doncha just love those crazy Iowans?http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/MMClubLg.JPG

mike37
07-12-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
The point is "obviousness" of bias. It is ok for you to go... the subleties of the point will always be lost on such a mind bereft of synapses. You should really stick to topics such as "my boat is really cool" and "famous rappers." Please tell me you don't vote. your a tool you get the big thumbs down

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 08:29 PM
It's not my opinion deb. It's world opinion. AJ has become a world accepted resource for unbiased and honest reporting. I think we can all agree they are probably biased in some way but the fact is, American news is losing world respect as a viable news source and AJ is gaining momentum and worldwide acceptance as a source for the "real news." Do not simplify my statements for the sake of your argument. I am stating facts not my personal agenda. I personally hate to see the credibility of American journalism reduced to political tools and sensationalism.

JustMVG
07-12-2004, 08:30 PM
Where is that "How To end a Thread" Thread???

Brodie
07-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It's not my opinion deb. It's world opinion.
dude yer such a homo,,,,,,
more like Butt Pirate

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It's not my opinion deb. It's world opinion. AJ has become a world accepted resource for unbiased and honest reporting. .
Nice........:rolleyes:

mike37
07-12-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It's not my opinion deb. It's world opinion. AJ has become a world accepted resource for unbiased and honest reporting. I think we can all agree they are probably biased in some way but the fact is, American news is losing world respect as a viable news source and AJ is gaining momentum and worldwide acceptance as a source for the "real news." Do not simplify my statements for the sake of your argument. I am stating facts not my personal agenda. I personally hate to see the credibility of American journalism reduced to political tools and sensationalism.
your the tool buddy

Debbolas
07-12-2004, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
It's not my opinion deb. It's world opinion. AJ has become a world accepted resource for unbiased and honest reporting. I think we can all agree they are probably biased in some way but the fact is, American news is losing world respect as a viable news source and AJ is gaining momentum and worldwide acceptance as a source for the "real news." Do not simplify my statements for the sake of your argument. I am stating facts not my personal agenda. I personally hate to see the credibility of American journalism reduced to political tools and sensationalism.
And only Lake Pirate can tell us how the world thinks.......
What planet are you from?!?!
PLEASE get a firm grasp of reality before posting agian....
(and just so you know.....just because you say the world has this opinion, does not mean ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND would ever think that is the case, but post away, my friend....)
OMG!!!
:eek: :rolleyes: :yuk:

Lake Pirate
07-12-2004, 08:34 PM
Gee... you're good.
This is how to end a thread. Goodnight. Nice lack of debate and inability to grasp the subject. See you tomorrow when you will be equally confused about the subject.

mike37
07-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Gee... you're good.
This is how to end a thread. Goodnight. Nice lack of debate and inability to grasp the subject. See you tomorrow when you will be equally confused about the subject. tool

Dr. Eagle
07-12-2004, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Lake Pirate
Gee... you're good.
This is how to end a thread. Goodnight. Nice lack of debate and inability to grasp the subject. See you tomorrow when you will be equally confused about the subject.
Nobody here is confused but YOU pirate. I'm not debating you. YOU ARE WRONG PERIOD. Now go away/.

Seadog
07-13-2004, 05:22 AM
I noticed that LP does not mention that the 'story' about Fox was made by a left wing outfit along the lines of Michael More fat than brains. The so-called Fox employees were low ranking employees of Fox affiliates that were terminated because they were not competent enough to get doughnuts. Like many incompetents, it is not their fault, it's politics.

OGShocker
07-13-2004, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Seadog
I noticed that LP does not mention that the 'story' about Fox was made by a left wing outfit along the lines of Michael More fat than brains. The so-called Fox employees were low ranking employees of Fox affiliates that were terminated because they were not competent enough to get doughnuts. Like many incompetents, it is not their fault, it's politics.
Hey Mr.! You stole my reply!:D
You have to love where the lefties get there news! Check out this JA's source Website (http://www.thebluestate.com)
LP,
Tell me you don't have sex with women, please! I would like to think you would take yourself out of the gene pool.:rolleyes: