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Great pics Grads.... I just was wondering why every video you take its either someone passing you or its always showing boats leaving you......???? :D ;) :D ... looks like a great day, none of the famous wcf blowin off his 100+ mph runs?????:confused:
You missed a good time at berryessa , you need to come join us some time bud
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I don't see any ski boats in those pics?........
I hope you guys don't sink my boat if I show up some day. ;)
HCS.
Tom, Sheri, & Ryan.
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Nice pix Grads...Looks like another sweet Day !
Thanks for sharing...:D
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nice pics grads. so, how difficult do you think it would be to strip off the ultra stiching in my seats? is that even possible? do you think I'd end up with a bunch of little holes?
if you ripped it off it would be 1 big hole:D
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The orange/blue canopied single Elim looks familiar:idea: We had a fun dicey run yesterday around 6:00PM averaging 80mph from rattlesnake to Granite bay.The 22' Stoker got a little "airy scarry"more then a few times:eek: http://www.***boat.com/image_center/...s_boat_019.jpg
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nice pics grads. so, how difficult do you think it would be to strip off the ultra stiching in my seats? is that even possible? do you think I'd end up with a bunch of little holes?
WHY:confused:
You have a giant maltese cross with "WEST COAST FU***R" on the deck. And the Ultra logo on the seats is too much.:confused:
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then just paint it orange and say its a dcb
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UltraJohn does not want to advertise for Ultra in any way. Kind of ironic when you think about his screen name. Maybe John West will counter sue UJ to change his name.
OUCH :D
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You know for a guy that is so Anti Ultra you sure were hanging around the Ultra booth ALOT at the LA boatshow.
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Nice boats!! I have seen you guys out there a little bit. I'm usually out on Sundays back in the north fork.
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I can't go back to HummerJohn. Tom Brown was eyeing me too much. I wish there was a way to change my name and keep my post count. Got any other screen name suggestions?
How about "AS IS JOHN":idea: :idea:
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then just paint it orange and say its a dcb
HA HA HA!!! :D :D
How about "AS IS JOHN":idea: :idea:
Hmmm.... :idea: :jawdrop:
Or maybe WCF FOR SALE. :D :D :D
Seems as though if you have that huge of a problem with Ultra that you wouldn't want to roll around in a boat that is probably one of the more recognizable ones to ever leave the Ultra shop. ;)
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I can't go back to HummerJohn. Tom Brown was eyeing me too much. I wish there was a way to change my name and keep my post count. Got any other screen name suggestions?
You should go back to Hummer John it suits you better. Why would Ultra or any other company want a pasty white dork like you representing them. It is pretty sad that you had to buy the wife a new rack so her tits would be bigger than yours. I think I know why you hang out at pasty cove now:)
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You should go back to Hummer John it suits you better. Why would Ultra or any other company want a pasty white dork like you representing them. It is pretty sad that you had to buy the wife a new rack so her tits would be bigger than yours. I think I know why you hang out at pasty cove now:)
Wow!!! :D :D :D
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John,
Love the boat. Met you at SOS a few weeks ago while your boat was being serviced.
Cant we all just get along?:D
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hmmm, maybe you need to get some facts straight. 1. what does hanging around the booth ALOT mean? I walked by the booth...took a picture of a picture of my boat at the booth, saw a video of my boat at the booth as I walked by, but hanging around...I don't think so. 2. I have never said I was "anti Ultra". Just don't want to advertise for them and have no reason to.
My facts are with my own eyes. I was there for the better part of a 3 hours and saw you milling around for at least a couple. I thought it was kinda strange for a person to be frivelously suing a company and then hanging around the booth. Be a man and take the stiching off the seats.
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John,
Love the boat. Met you at SOS a few weeks ago while your boat was being serviced.
Cant we all just get along?:D
yeah, I remember ya. it was nice to meet you. glad to see ya on ***boat.
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yeah, I remember ya. it was nice to meet you. glad to see ya on ***boat.
are you guys going to be around this weekend? I have one buddy taking his eliminator to Havasu and the other has his down in Madera getting new outdrive on his eliminator. I'll be out at Folsom most likely.
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are you guys going to be around this weekend? I have one buddy taking his eliminator to Havasu and the other has his down in Madera getting new outdrive on his eliminator. I'll be out at Folsom most likely.
not sure yet. Folsom tends to be a zoo on holiday weekends. I know for sure that we're going to Camanche on Monday. dunno what I'm doing Saturday or Sunday. I might just go on a friends boat one of those days...or might take the WCF out.
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not sure yet. Folsom tends to be a zoo on holiday weekends. I know for sure that we're going to Camanche on Monday. dunno what I'm doing Saturday or Sunday. I might just go on a friends boat one of those days...or might take the WCF out.
Yeah, I know it does but its so close. Never been to comanche. Maybe I'll see you out there Sunday. If you are there, stop by and say hi.
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like I said, get your facts straight. maybe you're mistaking me for someone else. was never milling around for hours. in fact, there was no lawsuit at the time of the boat show. you're just not correct on this one bud.
Why don't you give some facts or have HOMO Grads share some since he is such a close friend and has done nothing, but bash your boat (great friend):) I have received numerous PM's from you John saying nothing but positive things about your boat and John West and Ultra and now you are trying to act so cool and hint around and ask stupid questions about removing "Ultra Logos" Fill us in with your facts and what this whole lawsuit is about:idea: You have obviously let the cat out of the bag. Again, if you can't I am sure GRADS (I am on my third Eliminator because my other two delaminated) <<<<<That info provided to me by ULTRAJOHN himself in a PM back when GRADS was talking s@%t last summer:) while ULTRAJOHNS's boat was in the shop. What I would like to know is what on the boat that Ultra built themselves and not from an outside vendor has gone bad??
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You should go back to Hummer John it suits you better. Why would Ultra or any other company want a pasty white dork like you representing them. It is pretty sad that you had to buy the wife a new rack so her tits would be bigger than yours. I think I know why you hang out at pasty cove now:)
And this guy is saying you should change your name...if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. And all this after 12 big posts.
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What he's trying to say is don't buy anything but a bare hull from Ultra because they won't stand behind anything else.So John Hummer bought this boat used. I have been looking at a few used boats and last I checked there is no warranty on a used boat right? So sounds like John Hummer bought a high performance motor used and broke it and now wants to sue someone for that.
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What he's trying to say is don't buy anything but a bare hull from Ultra because they won't stand behind anything else.
Won't stand behind anything else??? Interesting. I have built 4 Ultras in the last four years and have many friends that have as well and none seem to have any problems with their boats and if something does come up JW has stood behind the product. My other three boats have been sold and the new owners ahve had no problems either. This is also the case for the other customers out there especially ones that just so happen post here daily. I actually think it is a positive that Ultra has not had to build a customer two other boats becasue the others ones fell apart:jawdrop: By the way did your buddy not buy a 1000+ HP boat "AS IS" with no warranty?? Who built the motor again?? Oh that's right Dereberry and if you do a search on the boards here it seems like Leon over there is not too popular with many.
GRADS you know how I feel about you and I will not go any further with you on this. Let ULTRAJOHN speak for himself he is a big boy.
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And this guy is saying you should change your name...if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black. And all this after 12 big posts.Grads do you still have that over priced Viper? If someone buys it and blows the motor I am sure you would stand behind it right. If no the that would be the pot calling the kettle black right.
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Interesting thread I missed for the last two weeks:) It's good to be back.....
New to ***boat here but get my boat serviced at SOS. Just wanted to see if you are who I think you are.
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Grads do you still have that over priced Viper? If someone buys it and blows the motor I am sure you would stand behind it right. If no the that would be the pot calling the kettle black right.
Did Ultra sell the boat or did Jesse James?:idea: Just curious and I just wanted to get my facts straight:confused: GRADS or ULTRAJOHN can you enlighten me please.
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So now your saying that Ultra makes it a practice to do business with shady companies?
No that is what you just said Jackass;)
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So now your saying that Ultra makes it a practice to do business with shady companies?
Did I say that anywhere here? Nope I do not think so. Do not put words in my mouth jackass. Seems to me that Ultra has not used this builder since so I guess the answer to that question is NO. Next???
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No that is what you just said Jackass;)
Seriously, time for a name change...
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Seriously, time for a name change... I guess the Viper is not for sale anymore. Come on Hummer John you know you bought a high performance motor and broke it. So blame your self for that not anyone else:eek:
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look Mike, I like you. you're a good guy and I think it would be best for all to not continue with this debate. calling me out like this is not going to get me to discuss specifics. You are good friends with the Ultra family and I wouldn't expect you to do anything but defend them.
Not calling you out John. Take some responsibility. Like stated before you let the cat out of the bag and I think you can credit GRADS for alot of this. You both have brought up the so called "LAWSUIT". You are right I am good friends with the Ultra family, but I also know about business ethics. I also knew nothing about Ultra or JW 5 years ago when I bought my first boat either. Dude I really think you are reaching on this one. Again, that may be my opinion, but I think you are reaching. It is unfortunate what happened with your boat and I have always told you that, but I would sit back and re-evaluate who you are going after and what for. Just my .02. Best of luck.
One last thing as long as the little hints and jabs come from both you and GRADS I will keep coming back for more.
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Not calling you out John. Take some responsibility. Like stated before you let the cat out of the bag and I think you can credit GRADS for alot of this. You both have brought up the so called "LAWSUIT". You are right I am good friends with the Ultra family, but I also know about business ethics. I also knew nothing about Ultra or JW 5 years ago when I bought my first boat either. Dude I really think you are reaching on this one. Again, that may be my opinion, but I think you are reaching. It is unfortunate what happened with your boat and I have always told you that, but I would sit back and re-evaluate who you are going after and what for. Just my .02. Best of luck.
One last thing as long as the little hints and jabs come from both you and GRADS I will keep coming back for more.
Shippingguy you are a class act.
The deal is this. AS IS JOHN buys a USED boat from Ultra boats "AS IS" and with no implied warranty. Dude goes out and wrecks a couple outdrives and blows up motor. Now AS IS John wants to sue for the motor damage. Did I mention the AS IS? John West would not knowingly sell a defective boat or motor. He has way too much credibility and reputation. This might be the biggest case of SHIT HAPPENS since Kilrtoy greased his shorts.
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well 1st off John you were all over that ultra booth, and you were going to buy every boat you walked by at the show if this is the same show jbg is talking about... before you bought the west coast pos as we now know it was, not just me or Grads badmouthing you... guess thats out in the open now... and Its unfortanate that the boat had so many problems but as shipping guy said, you need to take some responsibility here John... I mean how much boating experience did you have before you bought that POS??? a year.year and one half max???? in what a jet boat or whatever it was.
YOur problem is you have come on here and acted like a big shot when in reality you didnt know whether you had carbs or fuel injectiuon on that boat. you talk about how you wish you had deflecters at 100 mph. get real you dont have the gonads to go that fast and im sure youdont have over 2 minutes driving time at over 100... maybe a lot watching others drive your boat for you......
You talk the talk and thats it John, and you play one against the other all day, so I dont blame grads for bad mouthing you, you have bad mouthed him and I in pm's to others as shipping guy noted.
Everything I have to say to you I have said in open forum with no response from you except for you to say your little inuendoes and talking about a stalker... and making it sound like you were going to do something to me....... and yes I did copy all the posts just for FYI.. and CYA
just step up and admit it John, you bought a used boat and it was a POS, the repair costs support that, but think the builder owes you something because you got in way over your head???? NOT>>>
I understand being young and impressionable as you are you wanted to be a big dog and when you saw that wcf POS with all the fuk you written all over it and the finger to everyone you thought youd be a hot shot and then you had to have it at all costs..... which I hear are pretty costly so far after having things done 2-3 times.
Im actuallity John I would never race you cuzz I dont want you that close to me drivin that thing as I witnessed you drive it at the river. you remember the banks on the side???? I do lol.......
and as for why you bought your wife the rack, well thats none of anyones business but what mr nice guy said was funny....
man up and admit the shit and go on... hb prrps are forgiving if you are honest... and you know I personally have asked you 2x to just have a beer shake hands and get over it....... your response?? pout not accept my handshake and whine like a baby and a little girl...
I think youve got what you deserve John......... at least Grads said wht he had to say in the open not pming others with shit like you did and probably still do........... Ill still shake hands and have a beer with you when you man up.
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well 1st off John you were all over that ultra booth, and you were going to buy every boat you walked by at the show if this is the same show jbg is talking about... before you bought the west coast pos as we now know it was, not just me or Grads badmouthing you... guess thats out in the open now... and Its unfortanate that the boat had so many problems but as shipping guy said, you need to take some responsibility here John... I mean how much boating experience did you have before you bought that POS??? a year.year and one half max???? in what a jet boat or whatever it was.
YOur problem is you have come on here and acted like a big shot when in reality you didnt know whether you had carbs or fuel injectiuon on that boat. you talk about how you wish you had deflecters at 100 mph. get real you dont have the gonads to go that fast and im sure youdont have over 2 minutes driving time at over 100... maybe a lot watching others drive your boat for you......
You talk the talk and thats it John, and you play one against the other all day, so I dont blame grads for bad mouthing you, you have bad mouthed him and I in pm's to others as shipping guy noted.
Everything I have to say to you I have said in open forum with no response from you except for you to say your little inuendoes and talking about a stalker... and making it sound like you were going to do something to me....... and yes I did copy all the posts just for FYI.. and CYA
just step up and admit it John, you bought a used boat and it was a POS, the repair costs support that, but think the builder owes you something because you got in way over your head???? NOT>>>
I understand being young and impressionable as you are you wanted to be a big dog and when you saw that wcf POS with all the fuk you written all over it and the finger to everyone you thought youd be a hot shot and then you had to have it at all costs..... which I hear are pretty costly so far after having things done 2-3 times.
Im actuallity John I would never race you cuzz I dont want you that close to me drivin that thing as I witnessed you drive it at the river. you remember the banks on the side???? I do lol.......
and as for why you bought your wife the rack, well thats none of anyones business but what shipping guy said was funny....
man up and admit the shit and go on... hb prrps are forgiving if you are honest... and you know I personally have asked you 2x to just have a beer shake hands and get over it....... your response?? pout not accept my handshake and whine like a baby and a little girl...
I think youve got what you deserve John......... at least Grads said wht he had to say in the open not pming others with shit like you did and probably still do........... Ill still shake hands and have a beer with you when you man up.
Rack him!!
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well 1st off John you were all over that ultra booth, and you were going to buy every boat you walked by at the show if this is the same show jbg is talking about... before you bought the west coast pos as we now know it was, not just me or Grads badmouthing you... guess thats out in the open now... and Its unfortanate that the boat had so many problems but as shipping guy said, you need to take some responsibility here John... I mean how much boating experience did you have before you bought that POS??? a year.year and one half max???? in what a jet boat or whatever it was.
YOur problem is you have come on here and acted like a big shot when in reality you didnt know whether you had carbs or fuel injectiuon on that boat. you talk about how you wish you had deflecters at 100 mph. get real you dont have the gonads to go that fast and im sure youdont have over 2 minutes driving time at over 100... maybe a lot watching others drive your boat for you......
You talk the talk and thats it John, and you play one against the other all day, so I dont blame grads for bad mouthing you, you have bad mouthed him and I in pm's to others as shipping guy noted.
Everything I have to say to you I have said in open forum with no response from you except for you to say your little inuendoes and talking about a stalker... and making it sound like you were going to do something to me....... and yes I did copy all the posts just for FYI.. and CYA
just step up and admit it John, you bought a used boat and it was a POS, the repair costs support that, but think the builder owes you something because you got in way over your head???? NOT>>>
I understand being young and impressionable as you are you wanted to be a big dog and when you saw that wcf POS with all the fuk you written all over it and the finger to everyone you thought youd be a hot shot and then you had to have it at all costs..... which I hear are pretty costly so far after having things done 2-3 times.
Im actuallity John I would never race you cuzz I dont want you that close to me drivin that thing as I witnessed you drive it at the river. you remember the banks on the side???? I do lol.......
and as for why you bought your wife the rack, well thats none of anyones business but what shipping guy said was funny....
man up and admit the shit and go on... hb prrps are forgiving if you are honest... and you know I personally have asked you 2x to just have a beer shake hands and get over it....... your response?? pout not accept my handshake and whine like a baby and a little girl...
I think youve got what you deserve John......... at least Grads said wht he had to say in the open not pming others with shit like you did and probably still do........... Ill still shake hands and have a beer with you when you man up.
damn, right when I thought you two were going to kiss and make up.
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Grads you know I offered twice and he just whined.... and I didnt even mention the part about the mussles... lol that was to funny, but I thought Id leave that for you to tell since you were there and heard it all..............:D
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