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LOS ANGELES - A Los Angeles Police Department officer faces charges, including operating a boat while under the influence, after allegedly crashing a boat into a personal watercraft.
Officer David Guzman (pictured, left) faces charges of boating under the influence and leaving the scene of an accident without rendering aid.
Two people aboard the personal watercraft were injured in the crash Saturday on Lake San Antonio in Monterey County, where Guzman was arrested this weekend. Authorities said Guzman was piloting a 20-foot speedboat.
An 18-year-old passenger on the personal watercraft suffered serious injuries. He suffered injuries to his vertebrae, pelvis, spleen and liver. Surgery was scheduled for Monday.
The operator, a 19-year-old man, suffered minor injuries
"He was arrested for driving under the influence, under the Harbor And Safety Code, for driving a vessel while intoxicated" said Sgt. Catherine Plows of the LAPD. "Officer Guzman is assigned to home, pending further investigation. This investigation is in its infancy. We should not rush to judgement."
The LAPD is conducting an internal investigation.
If felony charges in the criminal case are filed against the nine-year veteran, he must turn in his gun, badge and identification. He would then be relieved from duty.
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Dan you are late....
this thread is already up/......
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Officer David Guzman (pictured, left) faces charges of boating under the influence and leaving the scene of an accident without rendering aid.
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leaving the scene of an accident (http://www.moviewavs.com/cgi-bin/mp3...r=freakout.mp3)
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It's on the channel 4 news now :idea:
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It will be interesting to see what if anything happens to this Lapd. officer.
I know recently, in another So. Cal. police department that an off duty officer was driving under the influence t/c'ed left the scene hit and run t/c'ed again causing some injury to to the occupants of the other vehicle,the officer was arrested. Mother f'ed the officers from the arresting agency,the officer was then released to their LT.from their own agency.The DA dropped the charges and the officer was never disciplined.
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NO this guy is as good as hung in my opinion. I don't think that they would let him out of anything. With all the attention to officer incolved shootings in LA lately, letting this officer off the hook will further promote people believing that cops are untouchable. Accidents happen, but I think this guy f'd up at the wrong time......as a cop. Just my .02
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Just out of curiousity, what would have happened to him if he stayed at the scene, DUI? Would he still lose his job?
I'm sure he would be severely pusnished and possible charged with the dui and whatever bodily harm charges. I don't know if he would have been fired. At this point he should though. He should have never left the scene. He is a cop, a person who the public relies on WTF. He pretty much left someone for dead. You know that in certain parts of the river that that are isolated that is exactly what would of happened.
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"Officer Guzman is assigned to home, pending further investigation. This investigation is in its infancy. We should not rush to judgement." Is this like PAID administrative leave. Great example he set here. I hope he gets it. Just my opinion.
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eventhough I think he should burn for running over a PWC and leaving the scene (alot of guys here talk about doing the same thing) Should he loose his job for something he did off duty?
Deano <---walkin a fine line :p
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What a crock of shit.. I'm Sorry, but what a crock of shit.
Even the wording on the article is different becuase it's a cop! Remember the guy in the Lavey that ran over the mexican guy on Parker and fled the scene? Go read that article, it sure as shit doesn't say anything about an investigation being in it's infancy and not to jump to conclusions.. It talks about the victims hobbies, family, and what he did on sunday afternoons.. I wish somebody would bring it back up to the top so you could read them side by side.
They didn't even bother saying "Alcohol was a factor" in the collision.. Just that he was arrested for DUI later.
No offense, but if this guy has EVER written a DUI/OUI or any kind of impairment ticket that was LESS THEN what he just go popped for, they oughta string him up by his nuts and then apply voltage.
RD
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they oughta string him up by his nuts and then apply voltage.
Like I said accidents happen, but you don't leave the guy just injured there. He knows the law, is the law so what is his excuse?
P.S. Don't "EVER" piss Riverdave off. :D
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It will be interesting to see what if anything happens to this Lapd. officer.
I know recently, in another So. Cal. police department that an off duty officer was driving under the influence t/c'ed left the scene hit and run t/c'ed again causing some injury to to the occupants of the other vehicle,the officer was arrested. Mother f'ed the officers from the arresting agency,the officer was then released to their LT.from their own agency.The DA dropped the charges and the officer was never disciplined.
I bet he gets off with a slap on the hand and some community service.
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It will be interesting to see what if anything happens to this Lapd. officer.
I know recently, in another So. Cal. police department that an off duty officer was driving under the influence t/c'ed left the scene hit and run t/c'ed again causing some injury to to the occupants of the other vehicle,the officer was arrested. Mother f'ed the officers from the arresting agency,the officer was then released to their LT.from their own agency.The DA dropped the charges and the officer was never disciplined.
Would this by chance be a female officer?
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What a crock of shit.. I'm Sorry, but what a crock of shit.
Even the wording on the article is different becuase it's a cop! Remember the guy in the Lavey that ran over the mexican guy on Parker and fled the scene? Go read that article, it sure as shit doesn't say anything about an investigation being in it's infancy and not to jump to conclusions.. It talks about the victims hobbies, family, and what he did on sunday afternoons.. I wish somebody would bring it back up to the top so you could read them side by side.
They didn't even bother saying "Alcohol was a factor" in the collision.. Just that he was arrested for DUI later.
No offense, but if this guy has EVER written a DUI/OUI or any kind of impairment ticket that was LESS THEN what he just go popped for, they oughta string him up by his nuts and then apply voltage.
RD
Were the articles written by the same reporters?
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Whats going to happen is the Police officer is going to admit that he has a drinking problem and that he needs help.Then his employer would be hard pressed to terminate his employment,so he will then be placed into a substance abuse program rehabilitated,get some community service and then put back on patrol.
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Guy should fry for leaving the scene....regardless if he is a cop....but as a cop and being it is his job to uphold the laws he was breaking, he should probably lose his job or at least have to go through some serious rehab (more so) then joe citizen...
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Guy should fry for leaving the scene....regardless if he is a cop....but as a cop and being it is his job to uphold the laws he was breaking, he should probably lose his job or at least have to go through some serious rehab (more so) then joe citizen...
I agree.
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Dang.... I was there all week. I'm glad I left Saturday afternoon.
I think LE should be held to a higher standard with regards to breaking the law. Just like they throw the book at people who "abuse their power" such as teachers or judges and what not.
If you're sworn to uphold the law and you break it on your spare time that's it, you should be fired and blackballed for life.
mirvin
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He should be treated just like anyone else.
Just because he is a cop doesnt mean he get away with it nor should he be punished harder than anyone else.
I get tired of hearing people say, "He is a cop and should know better". Lets face it, we all know better.
This accident had nothing to do with his job as a police officer, so it should be
irrelevant.
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He should be treated just like anyone else.
Just because he is a cop doesnt mean he get away with it nor should he be punished harder than anyone else.
I get tired of hearing people say, "He is a cop and should know better". Lets face it, we all know better.
This accident had nothing to do with his job as a police officer, so it should be
irrelevant.
Interesting... California passed a law that was "supposedly" largely supported by the LEO community. The law states that if you have a DUI, and someone else gets a DUI in your vehicle (they are driving your vehicle) with you in it, then not only do they get a DUI, but you as a passenger get a SECOND DUI, because "The person with the initial DUI should've known better." Interesting, I would think the guys that uphold/enforce the laws should know better as well?
RD
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Were the articles written by the same reporters?
I wouldn't even pretend to know..
RD
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He should be treated just like anyone else.
Just because he is a cop doesnt mean he get away with it nor should he be punished harder than anyone else.
I get tired of hearing people say, "He is a cop and should know better". Lets face it, we all know better.
This accident had nothing to do with his job as a police officer, so it should be
irrelevant.
Wow, I respect your view....but do see it differently....He should held to a higher standard since he was sworn to serve and protect....I was not sworn to serve and protect...
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He should be treated just like anyone else.
Just because he is a cop doesnt mean he get away with it nor should he be punished harder than anyone else.
I get tired of hearing people say, "He is a cop and should know better". Lets face it, we all know better.
This accident had nothing to do with his job as a police officer, so it should be
irrelevant.
WHat I'm saying is that NO WAY should he still be an officer of the law. Hells no.
Teachers loose their jobs over what they do on their spare time even if it's not illegal. There's a certain expectation of behavior that come with public duty. THat's all I'm getting at.
mirvin
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....I was not sworn to serve and protect...
Thats not what I was told.....
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Interesting... California passed a law that was "supposedly" largely supported by the LEO community. The law states that if you have a DUI, and someone else gets a DUI in your vehicle (they are driving your vehicle) with you in it, then not only do they get a DUI, but you as a passenger get a SECOND DUI, because "The person with the initial DUI should've known better." Interesting, I would think the guys that uphold/enforce the laws should know better as well?
RD
Dave, your going to have to show me a section on this one......15 yrs on never heard of this one.
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Dave, your going to have to show me a section on this one......15 yrs on never heard of this one.
How dare you sir!!! I take sever umbridge.......:D
mirvin :notam:
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What a crock of shit.. I'm Sorry, but what a crock of shit.
Even the wording on the article is different becuase it's a cop! Remember the guy in the Lavey that ran over the mexican guy on Parker and fled the scene? Go read that article, it sure as shit doesn't say anything about an investigation being in it's infancy and not to jump to conclusions.. It talks about the victims hobbies, family, and what he did on sunday afternoons.. I wish somebody would bring it back up to the top so you could read them side by side.
They didn't even bother saying "Alcohol was a factor" in the collision.. Just that he was arrested for DUI later.
No offense, but if this guy has EVER written a DUI/OUI or any kind of impairment ticket that was LESS THEN what he just go popped for, they oughta string him up by his nuts and then apply voltage.
RD
I bet you'd like to kick him in the junk, wouldn't you....
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What's up Mirvin? Whereabouts in Torrance do you live. I'm in Carson? I know I know.......Sorry for the distraction guys. He's practically my neighbor.
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Dave, your going to have to show me a section on this one......15 yrs on never heard of this one.
From what I understand it went into effect this year. I will try to get a section # for you at one of my next stupid classes..
RD
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If the crime was stiffer for leaving the scene than it was for a DUI than this would no longer be a problem!!! I know of a man that fled the scene after killing 2, and severly injuring 1, and he only got 1 year because they couldnt prove he was drunk!!! If he would have stayed there he would have gotten a minimum of 5 to 10 years so he was rewarded for fleeing the sceene.
I just dont understand why people have to drink, and opporate anything. I understand that partying is fun, but cant you guys rotate days, and always have someone sober. Why is this so difficult!!! Can someone please explain why this is so hard :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Biglou, I sent you a pm.
UCLAHATER, here's the scoop. People think they are the exception to the rule. THey think THEY can handle it and that THEY arent going to cause an accident.
I can't say I haven't been guilty of this in the past myself.
mirvin
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From what I understand it went into effect this year. I will try to get a section # for you at one of my next stupid classes..
RD
hey dave -- i wonder if this was comp beer ? :eek:
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1.) can someone PLEASE post the oath that ALL police officers take!!!
2.) What does the lapd "Code of conduct" say concerning it's officers behavior.
just curious!! :idea:
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Give me a break, this guy is done, he will be punished worse than anyone on here will be, so what do you need ethics posted for.....
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I was gone say, ask them for the code of conduct..
But a few will get their feeling hurt... So I took it down
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exactly as I stated...curious. I understand he's a human being, capable of making a poor judgement call.
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He left the scene of a serious accident with injuries. Drunk or sober, that is why he will lose his job. Cops get d.u.i.'s all the time. D.U.I.'s dont get you fired. They are more like a little speed bump in your career. It's all about who you play golf with. L.A. County had a Commander who was promoted to Chief after leading the CHP on a little pursuit while D.U.I. :idea: These sorta things don't always make the news.
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Wow, I respect your view....but do see it differently....He should held to a higher standard since he was sworn to serve and protect....I was not sworn to serve and protect...
He was sworn to protect and to serve in the performance of his job.
When he is off duty, he isnt required to serve and protect anyone. If thats what you expect then police officers should be paid 24hrs a day. When I am off duty I am not protecting anyone except for my family.
It sounds like you are saying that there should be stricter laws for Police officers then for the general public. Thats ridiculous. I agree that if its true, he should be punished (which may result in the loss of his job), but he should be held to the same standard as everyone else.
I would agree that if a Police officer is charged with a crime in the performance of his duties, then it does warrant a stricter penalty. That is not the case here.
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Most people involved in a similar situation would not lose thier job, career, house, and how ever much $$$ he will be sued for in civil court.
Most people will make out like a bandit like the guy who fled the scene in Parker to go home, sober up, and lawyer up. And he killed someone.
just my .02