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A former school official in San Antonio wants to change the name of an elementary school from one with Confederate connotations to one with socialist ones because the former is racist, reports the San Antonio Express-News.
Former Harlandale Independent School District administrator Nick Calzoncit wants the district to remove the Stonewall from Stonewall-Flanders Elementary School even though no one can be sure that it's actually named after Confederate General Stonewall Jackson.
Some people think the school carried the name because it was built in 1924 on a street in which people built stone fences in the front yards.
Calzoncit says he evaluated all the schools in San Antonio named after racists and bigots and singled out Stonewall as the worst. He wants the school name changed to Cesar Chavez Elementary.
Who is this yahoo to say who is a bigot or racist? His actions are bigotry to the hilt. :220v:
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I've read a little history on Stonewall Jackson, and I don't ever recall him being painted as either a racist or a biggot, but it's been a while.
People tend to forget that the Civil War, while rooted in the debate over slavery, was fought over many different issues. Mainly, the Southern states not wanting to be told what to do by the Northern states. Just because a man fought for the South, doesn't make him a racist.
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I've read a little history on Stonewall Jackson, and I don't ever recall him being painted as either a racist or a biggot, but it's been a while.
People tend to forget that the Civil War, while rooted in the debate over slavery, was fought over many different issues. Mainly, the Southern states not wanting to be told what to do by the Northern states. Just because a man fought for the South, doesn't make him a racist.
A very good point. I have lived in the South (Georgia) for the last 5 years and have an entirely different view on the Civil War than in my 27 years in TX and 21 in MI. I don't view slavery as the main issue so much as an ancilliary point regarding commerce of the time. I'm sure I will be flamed over such a statement in most circles and by no means want to imply anything racial nor downplay what a terrible thing slavery was.
The civl war left tremendous bitter residual effects on the south. Union troops were brutal and there were horrible atrocities.
Stonewall Jackson from what I've read was a military heroe for the country before staying on with his southern heritage.
The country would be far better off if our schools would teach the facts of the Civil War period rather than the watered down version. More understanding would give a much different view as to the root causes of the war and the true story of slavery, it's demise, and the ongoing racial problems that still plague society 150 years later.
Side note: I read somewhere a little known story of the Civil War about an old soldier named "French Johnny" Kerry who reputedly started up the original Confederate Navy. He piloted what was called a "Quick Boat" in the marshes of the Savannah River. The story goes he fell overboard when a black powder flash from a portrait photographer he had commissioned to take a staged battle scene photo depicting French Johnny as a war heroe, startled FJ. French Johnny's war record to this point was rumored to be somewhat tainted as he had a poor sense of direction often leading him away from battle. He was considered somewhat of a new money southern gent having married into a southern hot sauce dynasty. His french born wife was an ex brothel madam from New Orleans. She was widowed during a French Quarter dispute over Jalapeno futures and inherited her late hubby's business empire.
French Johnny was knocked unconscious from the fall over board, landed in old bombed out Bayliner hull, drifted out to sea and was carried by the Gulf Stream north towards NYC. He was pulled aboard a Rum running ship piloted by a fat sailor from north of Boston who had taken to the sea in his father's business after being disgraced when his out of control carriage crashed off a small inlet bridge and killed his mistress.
French Johnny and the fat sailor spent the next several years condemning the war and lived among slackers in the woods of Maine until their rumored hanging by French border jumpers out of Quebec. :rolleyes:
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Hope nobody flames ya over the "minimizing" of the importance of slavery in the civil war, because it is true. There is documented proof of Lincoln's belief that, if he could have saved the union peaceably, without war, and left slavery alone, he would have. :argue:
Since that was impossible, he decided to take the proverbial "bull by the horns" and deal with BOTH slavery and southern resistance to fed govt regulation at the same time. Only over time has the civil war become "The war over slavery" which it never was in the 1860's
Neat story there Tex, and quite likely true, and only 1 of many like it I am sure. :boxed:
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While the south has other more popular reasons for the war, the facts were that it was about slavery. That does not mean that many of those who fought nobly for the south believed in slavery. Lee himself was against slavery. Many of the leaders of the southern armies were there because their allegiance to their state superceded their loyalty to the federal government. Some of those did believe in slavery, but for most, it was the state they fought for. The big effect of the war, after the elimination of slavery, was the hammering home to the public that the federal government was supreme over the state governments. We were no longer a loose federation of states, but a central government. If you look at the armies during the war and the wars after, you will find a sharp move from state armies to divisions, regiments, battalions, etc., formed on a federal level.
This does nothing to demean the service of any of these people who served. No more than Canadians should be demeaned for siding with the British during the revolution.
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What I remember reading it wasn't just about slavery either.... but financial freedom from the north as well....
Great story Old Texan!!!
They changed the "George Washington" from a high school in New Orleans because he owned slaves.... so I guess we should take his name off the $ bill etc, etc. :rolleyes:
They are trying to change the mascot of West Monroe High from the "Rebels" to who knows what...
They are also changing the macot of a local college from the "Indians"...
This nation is getting so politcally correct it makes me sick...... and changed by a bunch of loud mouths whose only intent is to try to change history...to me there are more worthy causes out there... It's just too bad they can't see them. :mad:
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I thought it was all about the oil, or maybe it was furthering Isreal interest. Aren't all wars that the US fights about that? I'm sure Blown has a link somewhere that makes the correlation :p
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