I've been searching around but i cant seam to find anything. I'm looking for a set of forged .040 over pistons for a 454. I'm trying to yeild around 10:1 compression with a 118cc head.
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I've been searching around but i cant seam to find anything. I'm looking for a set of forged .040 over pistons for a 454. I'm trying to yeild around 10:1 compression with a 118cc head.
Check TRW or Speed Pro.
I think both offer .040 as a standard bore size.
Rex: You dont happen to know the websites for these 2 companys do you? i looked at www.trw.com and they have automotive stuff but i dont see pistons so i'm wondering if thats the right site. As for speed pro, i couldnt find there official site.
Try Summit. TRW's website sucks.
Here's a link (http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...main.asp&l=TRW)
at summitracing i only found these in .040
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...TRW%2DL2377F40
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...STL%2DH426CP40
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...2DKB203040%2D8
Thoughs, opinions? I couldnt find a compression ratio or the piston volume. At this point i probably should just take the block back in a spend the money to bore it over to .060.
The link on the last piston (Keith Black) did not list what the dome height was. Roughly w/ a 118 cc combustion chamber, the second link piston listed w/ a .100 dome height, will give you a 9.5-10.25 :1 compression ratio. If the dome cc was listed you could get a lot more accurate. A flat top is going to be down in the 8-8.5 :1 range.
Look what i found on summit... apparently if you click the technical link, it gives you technical information about them, who would have guessed it.
TRW-L2377F40
Specifications:
* Bore: 4.290 in.
* Stroke: 4.00 in.
* Rod length: 6.135 in.
* Compression ratio: 8.76:1 (100.9cc heads), 8.40:1 (106.9cc heads), 8.25:1 (109.4cc heads), 7.86:1 (116.9cc heads), 7.76:1 (119cc heads)
* Head type: Flat top with 1 chamfered relief
* Oversize: .040 in.
* Ring size: 5/64 in. top/second ring, 3/16 in. oil control ring
STL-H426CP40
Specifications:
* Bore: 4.290 in.
* Stroke: 4.000 in.
* Rod length: 6.135 in.
* Compression ratio: 9.88:1 (100.9cc heads), 9.41:1 (106.9cc heads), 9.22:1 (109.4cc heads), 8.72:1 (116.9cc heads), 8.59:1 (119cc heads), 8.30:1 (124cc heads)
* Head type: .100 in. dome
* Oversize: .040 in.
* Ring size: 5/64 in. top ring, 5/64 in. second ring, 3/16 in. oil control ring
* Weight: 725 grams
* Piston skirt has anti-friction coating
UEM-KB203040-8
Specifications:
* Bore: 4.290 in.
* Stroke: 4.00 in.
* Rod length: 6.135 in.
* Compression ratio: 11.8:1 (90cc heads), 9.9:1 (108cc heads), 9.1:1 (119cc heads)
* Head type: .133 in. Solid dome
* Ring size: 5/64 in. top/second ring, 3/16 in. oil control ring
* Will work with open or closed chamber heads.
Also the keith black ones (the last link) has all kinds of extra info that the others did have including installation, warings, suggested parts and emisions.
ATM, the keith black one out of those 3 get me the closest to my goal of 10:1.
Seams like guys around here recommend JE/SRP and TRW pistons all the time. I dont hear much talk about keith black.
Rex: i emailed that trw.com site asking if they had somthing for my app. maybe they will reply :)
TRW P/N# H581CP40 ($274/set)
10.22:1 W/119cc chambers. Coated skirts .340 dome; 2 rel
OR
H110CP40
lightweight/coated skirt/CNC , 10.21 W/119cc , .340 dome; 2 rel
It's all in knowing where to look, several more there if you want to look for yourself.
www.flatlanderracing.com >> pistons >> TRW pistons >> Forged pistons >> Cheverolet Pistons >> Cheverolet Big Block Pistons >> Cheverolet 454 Pistons .... And VOILA!
Then you can go back to Summit plug in the part # in their part search box so you can see their version of the specs.
EDIT: I just remembered that "H" part #'s are Hyperutetic. "L" parts are forged. Both of those listed above aren't exactly what your wanting but at least I got close.
Can somebody explain the diffrence between forged, Hyperutetic and why one is better than the other? A lot of people have recommended forged pistons to me.
Also i noticed that on that site that hyperutetic are under the forged section but then it says H for hyperutetic and L for forged. Got me confused there :p
Hyperutectic pistons are still a cast piston. They use a high silicon content which is supposed to control expansion rates, etc. A forged piston is still a better way to go in a heavy load high rpm environment IMHO. We used a set of SRP pistons last year that combined w/ a 118cc head, a decked block w/ a zero height and a Fel Pro gasket resulted in a 10.6:1 ratio. The pistons carried a 1/16, 1/16, 3/16 ring package which does produce a little less drag than the 5/64 combo.