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They have a screwed up book there. I have been a permit holder for around 10 years and been pulled over several times and only once has the officer even touched my weapon. In that case he was a rookie and the gun was on my person, He removed it from the holster and placed it on the trunk of the car. He never unloaded it and he was not concerned with the serial number of the gun.
Looks like he just wanted to give you grief for being a gun owner.
thats not by the book, something else had to be going on for then to give then the once over like that.
The CCW training i've had is leave you hands on the wheel, tell them right away "loaded weapon on my person/in car" "I have my CCW, what do you want me to do?"
When I was pulled over for no plates( of which I did not know they were gone. its not something you check to see if they were stolen.) I did exactly that, i was told to get out, remove the weapon, make it safe , leave it on top of the car and get my permit out( and the rest of the basics) after about 10 mins of him checking my vin and registration. He told me thank you for letting him know right away about the weapon and sent me on my way.
GD I wish Sac county would issue CCWs
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First sorry about your puppy.. Last night I drove from the casino to my house four miles.. and saw three different sets of blue lights. You would have to be insane to even have one beer and drive.. When I drive at night here in parker i know i will get pulled over... more then 50 percent chance. I have been stopped three times in the last year. We have four different law enforcement agency in this little town. Crit PD, Parker PD, La Paz County sheriff, and Arizona highway patrol. I like it.. stop me... keep my town safe. If you have nothing to hide you will be on your way in no time..
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He's doing much better. We patched him up good. As for leaving him alone, it was only for 2 hours! And he had our other dog as company. I'd love to take him along with me places. He just can be a handful at times. I shy away from bringing him out in public cause people get afraid when they see a 100+ pound pit around. He would never hurt anybody. But he would eat a small dog in a second. :jawdrop: He's one of the family for sure!
On another note, does anybody know any good window peeps here in Havasu?
http://emtgel.com/index.php
this stuff works!!!
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If you have nothing to hide you will be on your way in no time..
:jawdrop:
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I understand the LEO needs to be safe, but does he have to treat me like a criminal in the process? Does he have the right to search my truck without my consent for the weapon, even after I tell him where it is? I still believe he wanted to get me for somthing. I had broken no laws at all. I was driving UNDER the speed limit due to the monsoon, and he followed me for 7 miles before hitting his lights. If my chain was creating sparks, why not stop me earlier? All I know is nothing seemed right about this stop. He had back-up arrive as I was leaving. :confused:
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sorry for being harsh with my first post. i should have tried to understand the entire situation better, especially about the dog. im glad to hear he is doing well. i understand now it was only a short time and freak type thing. obviously it happens. yes i do leave my daogs unattended for short periods of time but i do allow them to have acces into the house at all times aswell. not everyone can do that, i understand.
as for the way the officer conducted his stop, im still going to have to lean toward the officers judgement here. imagine if he just let everyone go without hassle just because you show him a card that permits a firearm. if that was the case then forged cards would be more common than forged drivers licenses. i believe the officer was just trying to be as cautious as possible. im sure most officers get a bit nervous on big holiday weekends and tend to be overly cautious, but can you blame them. it only takes one time letting your guard down when a criminal can take advantage of the situation and turn it into something deadly. i believe if you feel you need to have a loaded firearm with you at all times, you should also understand the responsability and understand the fear officers have to deal with it. even someone with a legal right to carry a concelled weapon can have that one moment in life when he/she just snaps, and loses all better judgement.
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I understand the LEO needs to be safe, but does he have to treat me like a criminal in the process? Does he have the right to search my truck without my consent for the weapon, even after I tell him where it is? I still believe he wanted to get me for somthing. I had broken no laws at all. I was driving UNDER the speed limit due to the monsoon, and he followed me for 7 miles before hitting his lights. If my chain was creating sparks, why not stop me earlier? All I know is nothing seemed right about this stop. He had back-up arrive as I was leaving. :confused:
File a complaint with his department, they really do investigate those and take it
seriously ..... and these go on his record.
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Not worth a complaint IMO. He does deserve a "dope slap" though.
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sorry for being harsh with my first post. i should have tried to understand the entire situation better, especially about the dog. im glad to hear he is doing well. i understand now it was only a short time and freak type thing. obviously it happens. yes i do leave my daogs unattended for short periods of time but i do allow them to have acces into the house at all times aswell. not everyone can do that, i understand.
as for the way the officer conducted his stop, im still going to have to lean toward the officers judgement here. imagine if he just let everyone go without hassle just because you show him a card that permits a firearm. if that was the case then forged cards would be more common than forged drivers licenses. i believe the officer was just trying to be as cautious as possible. im sure most officers get a bit nervous on big holiday weekends and tend to be overly cautious, but can you blame them. it only takes one time letting your guard down when a criminal can take advantage of the situation and turn it into something deadly. i believe if you feel you need to have a loaded firearm with you at all times, you should also understand the responsability and understand the fear officers have to deal with it. even someone with a legal right to carry a concelled weapon can have that one moment in life when he/she just snaps, and loses all better judgement.
You are kidding with this reply ....right?...:D
Sounds like Johnny Law ...left his professional standards at the curb that day....
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You are kidding with this reply ....right?...:D
Sounds like Johnny Law ...left his professional standards at the curb that day....
Exactly, That cop was a POS from day one based on your story. Where does he get off given you the treatment. Fock if I ever tell a LE that I have a CCW. I dont think you are required to are you?