Yet anonther Michael Moore thread...

[Scream]

I just couldn't resist. I know we're all gettin a bit tired of the political rhetoric lately, but I've alway thought MM was an asshole and now I'm sure of it. :notam:
Some weeks ago, Linda Rhondstat performed at the Aladin Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas. During her performance she dedicated a song to the aformentioned anus relief valve and was quickly and quite correctly removed from the stage by security and taken out of the hotel. She wasn't even allowed to return to her room for her things. They were brought down by security later.
MM wrote the President of Aladin a letter, which I'll repost here. Mr. Bill Timmons responded, which I have also reposted. This is one of the best tit for tat letter's I've ever read.
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Subject: open letter & response to Michael Moore
Response to Michael Moore's, "Open Letter to Bill
Timmins, President Aladdin Casino and Hotel"
PLEASE READ MR. TIMMINS RESPONSE. IT IS EXCELLENT.
KUDOS TO MR. TIMMINS!
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Bill Timmins President Aladdin Casino and Hotel Las
Vegas, NV
July 20, 2004
Dear Mr. Timmins:
I understand from the news reports I've read that,
after Linda Ronstadt, one of America's greatest
singers, dedicated a song to me from your stage on
Saturday night, you instructed your security guards to
remove her from the Aladdin, which they did.
What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las
Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United
States, we have something called "The First
Amendment." This constitutional right gives everyone
here the right to say whatever they want to say. All
Americans hold this right as sacred. Many of our young
people put on a uniform and risk their lives to defend
it. My film is all about asking the questions that
should have been asked before those brave soldiers
were sent into harms way.
For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises
because she dared to say a few words in support of me
and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American.
Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening.
I read that you wouldn't even let her go back up to
her room at your hotel! Are you crazy? For crying out
loud, it was a song DEDICATION! To "Desperado!" Every
American loves that song! Sure, some people didn't
like the dedication, and that's their right. But
neither they nor you have the right to remove her from
your building when all she did was exercise her
AMERICAN right to speak her mind.
Of all the things that go on in Las Vegas, this is
what creates the need for serious action? What about
the other half of the crowd at the Aladdin who,
according to the Las Vegas Sun, cheered her when she
made her remarks? Did you throw them out, too?
I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an
idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the
millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her
back and I'll join her in singing "America the
Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit
9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone
else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.
Mr. Timmins, as the song "Desperado" says -- "Come to
your senses!" How can you refuse this offer? I await
your reply.
Yours, Michael Moore Director, "Fahrenheit 9/11"
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Response
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July 21, 2004
Attention: Michael Moore,
In response to your letter dated July 20, 2004: You
are correct that I had security remove Linda Ronstadt
from Aladdin Casino and Hotel where the fun never ends
and everybody wins. How very interesting to learn you
are such a fan of Ms. Ronstadt.
You questioned where I live and surprisingly knew Las
Vegas is in the United States. You should visit it
sometime. There are thousands of wonderful 'All You
Can Eat' buffets.
There are also a lot of casinos who's owners don't
**** around. I am aware of the First Amendment and you
have the right to talk about your hatred of America
but once you are on my property and you are upsetting
my guests, you will quickly learn about my rights.
I can't remember if it was Jesus or George W. Bush
that said, "Freedom is a two-way street." Ms. Ronstadt
learned this long before I had her thrown out of my
casino. You question my actions? If you come onto my
property and upset my guests, you will receive the
same, if not worse, treatment than Ms. Ronstadt
received. I am sure your mere presence would upset my
guests.
You claim your film, "...is all about asking the
questions that should have been asked before those
brave soldiers were sent into harms way." I think you
film does nothing but aid the enemy and hurt our
troops. You have betrayed our troops, our leader and
America. I have no respect for you or your vision of
what America should be.
I paid Ms. Ronstadt to entertain my guests, not divide
them. The half that did not leave probably thought the
verse you mentioned, "Why don't you come to your
senses" was addressed to you. Maybe she should have
dedicated her song, 'You're No Good' to you. I would
have asked her back, had she done that.
Regarding your request for me to apologize to her,
have you and her on my stage singing anything about
this Country and then playing your piece of **** film
is ludicrous!
One of my workers is currently throwing away every
complaint letter from brainless followers of you,
claiming they will never visit my Casino. I could not
be more pleased to know my casino and hotel will
always be void of the kind of people who support you.
Meanwhile, my hotel has been quickly booked solid for
the rest of the year with true Americans who love this
Country and support our efforts overseas.
They will see a framed copy of your letter and my
response in the lobby to ensure they begin their
experience with a laugh.
Sincerely,
Bill Timmins President Aladdin Casino and Hotel Las
Vegas, NV

[Garrddogg]

That guy Rocks!
:wink: TIMMINS IN 2008
Its the Aladdin only when in Vegas..

[Scream]

I want to go there just to see the letter. MM, what an ass...

[tcook33]

That was one of the greatest pieces of literature I have ever read. Mr. Timmons is my hero. F Mr. Moore.

[throwerb]

Thanks for the tip Scream, Looks like I just found a new hotel to stay in when I go to Vegas on business once a month, now if only all businesses would clearly state their opinion on the matter I'd know where to spend my money.

[1978 Rogers]

The First Amend, I believe protects us from being harassed or prosecuted by the gonerment for what we what say or believe. Freedom of Speach. I don't think it will protect me, if I call some guy a F^*king Ahole to his face. MM, what can I say that any rational or intelligent person doesn't already know. Plus, 9/11 mostly smears Bush. Only the end of the movie is about soldiers.

[AzDon]

There was already a thread about this exact letter exchange and it was exposed as a fraud......The current management of the Alladin is on their way out because of a little thing called bankruptcy.
The true story is that Michael Moore has been invited by the new management to appear and do a duet with Linda Ronstadt when they take the place over!
As for the cocept of "shut up and sing", I don't totally disagree. I think someone needs to put a muzzle on Ted Nugent.... Went and saw him at Mandalay Bay and his political rants ruined the experience for me. They didn't escort HIM out of the building or even refund my tickets when I complained.... They told me that I shouldda expected that from the Nuge!

[KACHINA KEN]

It is funny but I don't think they are genuine letters, the reason I say this is because they aren't written well enough, MM has a razor sharp intelect for the moron he is and any response he would have made would have been alot sharper as I'm sure Mr Timmons would have. I think these are just a couple of creative writings of someone is all, funny as heck though, they would be a good matchup for celebrity boxing or in MM's case celebrity sumo.

[Back Forty]

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/timmins.asp
Yep, to bad. M. Moore is still a f*cking sh!t stain example of a human.

[Ziggy]

I think the best part is the "lots of all you can eat Buffet's"---thats just way to funny