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A point was brought up on another board, and I think it bears some additional thinking, and possible letter fodder!
Magic34 was in Havasu this weekend (as was I), and Havasu had their bike rally. Now I enjoy a nice chopper, but the noise they make is ungodly. Well the point Magic34 was making is that these choppers make as much, if not more noise than our boats! They can drive choppers all over town, disrupting everything...setting off car alarms, rattling windows, and causing hearing aides to malfunction.
Now our boats are on the water, and potentially miles away from some of the biggest whinners! So what gives? They welcome bikers and their obnoxiously loud bikes all over the town all year long, but boaters with their boats miles from town are a problem?
I just don't get it.....anybody have a better explaination?
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It's kinda like the lousy neighbor's barking dog. It's ok, according to the authorities, if the neighbor's yappin' dog only pisses you off occasionally, but if it does it every night, then it's a problem.
well, some of the points they make that do make sence...The smog in the channel...and the traffic there as well..the deaths and accidents from drunkin boaters and party goers...and the people that leave there trash everywhere.. these are some of the differences..that are all fixable...as long as people are going to respect the place and the lives of others.
Okay...I can understand some of that, but (1) how many motorcycle accidents happen in town every year? (2) How many injuries and deaths along the Havasu roadways? (3) Does the motorcycling gang really bring in the kind of money that the boating community does?
I will say that I have never been there on a summer weekend when at least a dozen or two 100 db choppers or Harley's have gone by! So if its boat noise they are complaining about, the bikes are a hell of a lot closer to town than the boats, and after a couple of hours at their favorite watering hole, I imagine there are a few bikers that have rather high bac levels as well.
I don't believe the town is making any issue about the noise, I could be wrong though. The marina is the only driving force behind the noise and what is going on there.
I don't believe the town is making any issue about the noise, I could be wrong though. The marina is the only driving force behind the noise and what is going on there.
But what about all the Jan 1, 2005 talk??? City and local law enforcement pushing that issue?
But what about all the Jan 1, 2005 talk??? City and local law enforcement pushing that issue?
The January 1, 2005 from the best of my knowledge only addresses the new CA law that goes into effect with respect to db levels of boats. The new CA law will require that all boats be no louder than 88 dbs 39 inches from the back of the transom 4 ft above the water line.
I have read on the other threads that people have been told by various people over in LHC, from Park Rangers at Windsor, to residents, to god-knows-who, that AZ is going to start cracking down on their own law. The law in AZ is 86 dbs at 50 ft. from the transom. No AZ law enforcement agency can hold you accountable to the CA law. But, SBSD can issue a ticket to any boat anywhere on the lake that does not meet the CA law even if the boat is operated by an AZ resident and is registered in AZ.
I don't believe the town is making any issue about the noise, I could be wrong though. The marina is the only driving force behind the noise and what is going on there.
Also, the city is the one who is letting the Marina get away with what they are doing. The city could stop the actions of the marina tomorrow if they felt they needed to.
I am NOT trying to start a battle between bikes and boats at all. I want a custom bike, but the wife has other thoughts. My argument is that I would like the city to realize that boaters and bikers come to their city with expensive toys and deep pockets. When a resident makes a comment about boaters and their lack of courtesy because they are loud and drink a lot, the bikes are just showing a differnet aspect to the argument. Make it difficult for both to come to Lake Havasu City, and the economy will be heavily damaged. Before a local on the other side attempts to belittle me, I did get my degree in economics at ASU. I feel I am at the least a little qualified to enter this dicussion.
I do have a quad that I ride in the high country during the summers. The aftermarket exhaust on the bike is loud, but as I pass other cabins and businesses while riding to the trailhead, I keep the bike at low rpm's to help keep the noise down. Same thing in the channel. I don't rev my boat near businesses or anyone in the channel (unless I need to use the motors as a horn in emergency), but once in open waters, what harm is caused?
HD is absolutely correct on the laws in the two states...The California law is much tougher to pass and all of us will have to deal with the tougher law as some point since it's a shared jurisdiction issue on the River and Lake Havasu.
I concur as well that this is a Marina issue more than a Lake Havasu City issue.
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