Well the pics I posted of ratnasty will not be what it looks like this year at the roost, it will have some metal flake and a new seat, and hopefully some velocity stacks. Anyways, ken me and the guys are still coming down and i will see all of them this weekend for the holiday and gather up all the money, there should be 5 seperate boats so i will need to collect 40 for each boat ?? Or each person ? ? Any body bringing kids this year, i have read posts of the prior year that it was family orineted or kid friendly but i was wondering if any small children, the wife wants to leave ours, But I like bringin them, they keep me from getting to wild. (High speed wake jumpin' has been done in the hydro a few times when they werent around)