Az registration is yearly, in the month you initially register.
Not necessarily.
The expiration month is tied to that actual number they assign. (The numbers, not the letters) I won't go into detail, but it's designed so we can tell at a glance if the decal is actually for the assigned number, or belongs to another boat.
Believe it or not there are those who steal decals, put on decals from other boats, or "loan" decals to others. Either to avoid paying the fees altogether, they forgot to pay them and want to use the boat without hassle, or to make a stolen boat look legit.
In any event, when you first register a boat in AZ you are signing up for a whole year, (12 months) no matter what the numbers are. The 2nd time you register it, (1st renewal) you might get it registered for anywhere from 7 to 18 months. If it's 6 months or less until your assigned numbers "month" is up, they'll register it for the remaining time, plus an additional year. If it's 7 months or more, they'll register it until the next appropriate expiration month.
The fees are prorated, either higher or lower, depending on where your particular numbers fall. This is why some people pay higher or lower fees the 2nd time they pay for their Arizona registration, and the month doesn't match the first decal they got. It's the second go around that catches the numbers up with the month.
A lot of people say..."Hey! Didn't we just do this 6 months ago?" Probably, and that's the reason why.
Got it?
Hey. At least WE understand how it works.
Not necessarily.
The expiration month is tied to that actual number they assign. (The numbers, not the letters) I won't go into detail, but it's designed so we can tell at a glance if the decal is actually for the assigned number, or belongs to another boat.
AAAHHHhhhh.....That explains why mine expire in April, when the boat was first registered new in Sept or Oct. I was corn-fused. I thought maybe everyone expired in April, but then I saw that wasn't the case. Now I get it!!! Thanks!
RTJas
I love the media spin of "tax dodgers" on people who legally reduce and eliminate taxes. California is one of the last states to have personal property tax, and if you can legally eliminate this tax, then why would you not? What...that is not the spirit of the law or something?
Fock CA taxes. The only taxes they get from me are property taxes and sales taxes.
You said the exact words that are important here: "...if you can legally eliminate this tax,...". The important word is "LEGALLY". Those that live in CA, store their boat in CA, register it in AZ and claim they don't owe property tax to CA are breaking the law. They owe property tax if the boat is not predominantly moored (not only used but stored as well) outside CA and is not in CA on January 1 of the taxable year. Not meeting those requirements and claiming exemption from the county's property tax is fraud. Plain and simple.
My boat sleeps in it's garage at my house in Havasu. I'm legal.
You said the exact words that are important here: "...if you can legally eliminate this tax,...". The important word is "LEGALLY". Those that live in CA, store their boat in CA, register it in AZ and claim they don't owe property tax to CA are breaking the law. They owe property tax if the boat is not predominantly moored (not only used but stored as well) outside CA and is not in CA on January 1 of the taxable year. Not meeting those requirements and claiming exemption from the county's property tax is fraud. Plain and simple.
Thanks for the clarifcation Boatcop. Guess we just got lucky, comes up every May, so has always been a year! Jill
You said the exact words that are important here: "...if you can legally eliminate this tax,...". The important word is "LEGALLY". Those that live in CA, store their boat in CA, register it in AZ and claim they don't owe property tax to CA are breaking the law. They owe property tax if the boat is not predominantly moored (not only used but stored as well) outside CA and is not in CA on January 1 of the taxable year. Not meeting those requirements and claiming exemption from the county's property tax is fraud. Plain and simple.
Never said not to meet the requirements and claim the exemption. How you meet the requirements is a different story.It is all in the interpretation depending on the tax liability $$$.
It actually sounds like you all have it pretty good actually
Titties and Beer, Im sure you can relate to this
Here in our wonderful State of Utah they still have it under personal property tax at a rate of 1.5% of book value, period!!!
We just recently had a local dealer broker a deal for us that involved trading in our 2001 Nordic Heat and purchasing a 2002 Nordic Flame out of Chicago. We did this to save sales tax by using the trade to knock down the delta purchase price.
Well beings our old boats registration expired in 2005 I had to pay approximately $600 in personal property tax; not the new owner. Then, because the registration from Illinois expired in 2005 also, guess what? I had to pay the personal property tax on that also at a mere $1200. Im not talking about sales tax; property tax!!! The sales tax was a huge chunk but was at least expected.
Does it make sense?
F#@! NO it doesnt make sense!!!!!
So, I speak with some of the state reps about where all this discriminating tax money goes hoping to hear that it goes towards Parks and Rec, ramps, facilities, etc F-No, it all goes into the same pot that the real (home) property tax goes into.
I was told to consider it the same as paying the same amount of property tax on our home with one kid as the guy next door pays and has ten kids which is pretty common here. WTF!!!
They also have a law because of Powell that doesnt fit BoatCops 51% category. If you boat in Utah waters more than 14 days a year you must register and pay the personal property taxes; period!! Ill take my chances and pay the $75 fine because this will be the last year this F%$@ up state sees my boat money!!
If they just made it fair it would solve all of this BS!!!
Sorry for venting but I just happen to be in the midst of fighting this .
Later :cry: :cry: :devil:
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