Tape a carpet knife(one of those curved thingies) to the end of a broom stick and just reach up through the grate and cut it out. Kinda difficult but it's easier to do it that way rather than take the cleanout plug on my boat out. Luckily I've only had to do it once! http://free.***boat.net/ubb/smile.gif But it WAS the first time I took the boat out. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/frown.gif Good luck!