Taylorman be careful thats how I messed up my last set of Bassett headers. I tried everything to get them out. I finally got pist and hook a cable from my pick up to the baffles. Bent the header back 1/2 inch on one side. Some how I got one out but the pipe was ovaled by the time I got it out. I should of soaked them with WD40 for a couple of days 1st. Maybe some light tapping with a rubber mallot.