The REAL greatest danger..........

[SmokinLowriderSS]

to the future of the US (and to the safety of you and your familiy) .....
The ACLU
The NYCLU is suing to stop bag and personal searches on the NYC subway system by the NYPD. As soon as they find a loony enough judge to agree that it is a violation of someone's right to personal privacy, the airport searches will also cease, untill overturned by a higher apeals court, and then another, finally to the US supreme Court. The ACLU has tried (and is still trying) to stop every single anti-terrorist measure anyone attempts to do to protect you & I, thus, THEY will be the death of this nation if not stopped.
ACLU opposes the patriot act.
ACLU opposes any stress in an interogation (cooersion).
ACLU opposes sending terrorist suspects to any country (includign their own) if that country may cooerce or torture them to gain information.
ACLU demands all terrorist suspects be given access to the US legal and courts system, even if they are not US citizens.
ACLU opposes any manner of racial profiling to attempt to identify likely terrorist suspects (Arabic males 18 to 35 years of age).
ACLU opposed the Minuitemen watching the southern US border trying to spot and report persons entering the USA illegally.
ACLU wants more pictures of the torture and atrocities (torture and atrocities my arse, I could show them a few real ones they have forgotten) at the Abu Gharib prison, which has no purpose other than to incite more anti-US violence, thus killing more US people overseas (US Mil & Civilians).
Obviously the ACLU is (at best) a sympathizer giving aid & comfort to an enemy or (at worst) a partisan sabateur actively helping the enemy.

[Blown 472]

to the future of the US (and to the safety of you and your familiy) .....
The ACLU
The NYCLU is suing to stop bag and personal searches on the NYC subway system by the NYPD. As soon as they find a loony enough judge to agree that it is a violation of someone's right to personal privacy, the airport searches will also cease, untill overturned by a higher apeals court, and then another, finally to the US supreme Court. The ACLU has tried (and is still trying) to stop every single anti-terrorist measure anyone attempts to do to protect you & I, thus, THEY will be the death of this nation if not stopped.
ACLU opposes the patriot act.
ACLU opposes any stress in an interogation (cooersion).
ACLU opposes sending terrorist suspects to any country (includign their own) if that country may cooerce or torture them to gain information.
ACLU demands all terrorist suspects be given access to the US legal and courts system, even if they are not US citizens.
ACLU opposes any manner of racial profiling to attempt to identify likely terrorist suspects (Arabic males 18 to 35 years of age).
ACLU opposed the Minuitemen watching the southern US border trying to spot and report persons entering the USA illegally.
ACLU wants more pictures of the torture and atrocities (torture and atrocities my arse, I could show them a few real ones they have forgotten) at the Abu Gharib prison, which has no purpose other than to incite more anti-US violence, thus killing more US people overseas (US Mil & Civilians).
Obviously the ACLU is (at best) a sympathizer giving aid & comfort to an enemy or (at worst) a partisan sabateur actively helping the enemy.
And you are ready to give up everything?

[Steve 1]

The ACLU = Filthy Communist Bast--ds

[HighRoller]

ACLU=America's Criminals and Liberals United
These douchebags have to stand against random searches in the NY subway because they're afraid some of their clients will get caught up in the dragnet with kiddie porn or drugs in their bag. Did I mention they represent NAMBLA? That stands for North American Man-Boy Love Association, an organization that promotes and encourages the rape of young boys on its website. I believe B472 is a member, and the ACLU defends them pro bono when one of their members rapes and/or kills a little boy.
In my eyes, only the guilty are afraid of random searches. These scumbags might as well be on retainer by Al Quaeda because they're sure as hell not on our side. And to hear these sacks of shyt stand up and righteously proclaim they're "defending the constitution" makes me wanna puke until I see my shoelaces. When was the last time these commie nutjobs ever stood up in court for gun owners who were being deprived their "constitutional rights"? They're defending liberalism, communism and terrorism. Period. :boxingguy

[cxr133]

WHOA........ calm down there gentlemen
remember the liberty's you save may be for for own good one day!!!
an old jewish guy told me this one time....
if you lived on a street with a arab, a n.korean, a black and a white.
what happens one day when they (the man, police, goverment whatever you wanna call them) come and get the arab, and he is looking for help and you look the other way?
the next time they come and get the n.korean and the same thing happens and so on for the black.....
BUT...... one day they come to get you and you look around for help and there is noone there
(something like that i dont remember it verbatim)

[Jeanyus]

Don't forget the ACLU sued the Boy Scouts, because they would not let gay men be scout leaders. That would be like the fox guarding the hen house.
I am against airport searches, I think that all people who look and sound like they are from the middle east, should be lined up and strip searched. Everyone else goes to another line and walks through. When they get tired of this, the so called good Muslims (they all read the same Koran, which calls for the destruction of all infidells. That means you!) might start turning in the ones who want to kill everyone, but I wouldent hold my breath.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Interesting perspective jeanyus. Against airport searches yet for searching all terrorist stereotypes (males 18 to 35 or so).
Don't get me wrong, I think that's the way it should happen .... BUT ..... the folks driving the PC and Anti-"profiling" stuff, the ACLU (Anti-american Comunists Living Undercover.

[cxr133]

lets remember who did the oklahoma city bombing....
are you saying you want the government to do background checks, fingerprint on all white males 18-48 to rent a car or truck
i was accused of running drugs from hayward, ca to la once because i fit the description... i was going to hayward for a bachelor party... rented car lots of cash and i fit the description

[Jeanyus]

If a bank gets robbed by a 30 year old white male 5 foot 6" tall, driving a white Chevy.
Do the police start pulling over cars with 5 foot 80 year old females in blue sedans, in order to be P.C.?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

That's an old proverb cxr, aprox circa 2nd world war....
"They came for the jews, and I said nothing."
"They came for the Catholics and I said nothing."
"They came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me."
Yes, it IS apropriate, but in what context?
What freedom is there for the dead? Explain freedom to the families of 2,700+ people who USED to live & work in NY City (untill late 2001).
What freedom is there when you cannot call a spade a spade, you must call it "length-challenged-handled, pointed, metal-bladed, device for destroying the integrity of Mother Earth?"
1942, National Socialist Germany landed 8 sabateurs on US East Coast soil by submarine. They were all captured before causing any harm. Does anyone recall this, or their punishment. No, they were not POW's, they were found in CIVILIAN CLOTHING. Yes, they were held in prison till the war ended. Then they were hanged as spies (and sabateurs they were) as soon as the war was over. Also, durring the Battle of the Bulge (1944) German soldiers were captured wearing US Army uniforms. They were sumarally shot as spies.
We are in a time of war here. Extrordinary times call for extrordinary measures. The 4th amendment to the US constitution CAN be restricted from time to time. The glorious 1st Amendment has been restricted almost since the beginning of this country, and it is still alive and well with nobody complaining:
You cannot incite panic with speech. (fire in a crowded building)
You cannot incite violence or riotous behavior.
You cannot make threats to someone (simple assault = "I'm gonna punch you in the eye!") Go ahead and do it and it is assault & battery.
You CANNOT actively advocate the overthrow or downfall of the US government (or any state government). "SEDITION". However, you can voice your displeasure and try to make change as long as you do not advocate violent change.
PROFILING (a special "button" of mine)
To truly not "profile", the police, upon gettign a report of a rapist (for example) must start questioning both genders, and ALL races and ages, even with a witness. Just because the injured party said the rapist was white male (or whatever you pick), if you only look for someone of that color and gender, you are "profiling" in your search (unless you have an ID (name)). To not profile, blacks, hispanics, asians, AND women must be questioned. Children as well unless you commit "age profiling".
Note the stupidity of NOT "profiling" a suspect.