I great discussion. Where was I at? The gate valve/all other valves has been discussed here in depth. I understand why the gate is not the best way to go but none the less damn near every jetboat has one on it. Probably installed from factory. I say right on Rio and right on Racing Ray. A little diversity is good. We don`t all want to drive Ramblers. I thought this was a great discussion. I was over in the Sandbar mixing up some bullshit. Don`t recommend Bench Racers cause its lame and without tech help. Not even a good arguement. boxed