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  1. #1
    Taylorman
    Can someone tell me what the purple wire going from the R on the starter solenoid to the ignition switch is for?
    http://www2.***boat.com/image_center...ng_Diagram.jpg

  2. #2
    lucky
    run - position - power supply

  3. #3
    MikeF
    run - position - power supply
    What he said. :rollside:

  4. #4
    lucky
    from info.
    Standard Boat Wiring color Codes.
    Blk -Grounds-General
    Blk/Brn -Pump Grounds
    Blk/Red -Voltmeter Grounds
    Blk/Org -Isolated Accessory Grounds
    Blk/Yel -ignition stop
    Blk/Grn -Water Level Sender Ground
    Blk/Blu -Lighting Grounds
    Blk/Gry -Nav Light Grounds
    Blk/Wht -Battery Parallel Solenoid
    Brown -Pumps-General, Bilge or Sump (Manually Switched)(Also alternator starter to Ign.)
    Brn/Red -Pumps, Bilge or Sump
    Brn/Org -Power feed to Auto Bilge Switches-Pumps, Fuel/Oil Tranfer or Priming
    Brn/Yel -Baitwell or Aerator
    Brn/Grn -Fresh Water Pump/Water Maker
    Brn/Blu -Head Pump
    Brn/Vio -Washdown Pump
    Brn/Wht -trim pos sender
    Red - Battery Feeds Unprotected
    Red/Vio -Misc. Accy. Main Feed Protected (fused) from batt to trim panel.
    Pink -Fuel Sender
    Org/Blk -Audio System Feed
    Org/Brn -Electric Head-Sanitation System
    Org/Red -Wiper Port
    Orange -Accessories common feed- Dist Panel to Acc switch-Anode Electrode-Mercathode
    Org/Yel -Diesel Pre-heat
    Org/Grn -Wiper Stbd
    Org/Blu -Communications Equipment
    Org/Vio -Navigation Equipment
    Org/Wht -Wiper Center
    Yel/Blk -Choke - Neutral saftey trans mounted
    Yel/Red -Start Solenoid(starting circut), Neutral Safety
    Yel/Org -Powered Ventilation, Fans
    Yellow -Bilge Blowers -(also alternator DC output)
    Yel/Wht -Rudder Angle Sender
    Grn/Red -Stop Solenoid/Kill Switch
    Grn/Yel -AC Grounding
    Green -Bonding
    Grn/Wht -Engine Trim in and or tilt down
    Grn/Org -Engine Independent Trim down
    Blu/Blk -Cabin Lights
    Blu/Brn -Oil Temp Send
    Blu/Red -Cabin or Cockpit Lights Port
    Blu/Org -Engine Independent Tilt Up
    Blu/Yel -Lighting Circuits to Remote Send
    Blu/Grn -Cabin or Cockpit Lights Stbd
    Blu -Instrument & General Lighting
    Blu/Vio -Courtesy, Boarding Lighting
    Blu/Wht -Engine Trim Outand/or Tilt Up
    Light Blue -Oil Pressure
    Vio/Red -Eng. or Generator B+ from Breaker
    Vio/Yel -I/O Trim Up (ballast bypass)
    Vio/Grn -I/O Trim Down
    Vio -12v Ignition-Generator or Engine
    Vio/Wht -Trim "Trailer" switch
    Gry/Blk -Mast Light
    Gry/Red -Spotlight Remote
    Gry/Org -Docking Lights
    Gry/Grn -Strobe or Beacon
    Gry/Blu -Spreader/Flood Lights
    Gry/Vio -Windlass/Winch
    Gray -Navigation (running) Lights, Tach. Send
    Gry/Wht -Anchor Light
    Wht/Brn -Temp. Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Red -Fuel Alarm or Indicator -((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
    Wht/Org -Fire Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Yel -Air Flow Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Grn -Water Press/Flow Alarm or Indicator - ((Ignition module to Dist.)Mercury Thunderbolt Ignition)
    Wht/Blu -Oil Press Alarm or Indicator
    Wht/Vio -Voltage Alarm or Indicator
    White -General Alarm Usage, Yamaha Kill Switch
    Tan - Water Temp sender
    Tan/Blu -Warning system sense wire (Audio warning)
    Pink -Fuel sender
    and i can't find it here lol

  5. #5
    Taylorman
    run - position - power supply
    So it provides 12V when the engine is running? Why does the wire go from the solenoid to the ignition switch then to the gauges.

  6. #6
    lucky
    So it provides 12V when the engine is running? Why does the wire go from the solenoid to the ignition switch then to the gauges.
    that is a remote solenoid - Its a ford version of the one On your chevy starter so actualy it comes from your Chevy starter alot easier to jump if you ever have to
    think of that particular pole on the solenoid as "the positive post on a battery " I think it runs at 9.6 volts ( i'm shooting from the hip on this one ) and is a constant power sorce so when you turn you key on - your guages will be "energized" , -- When you turn off the key - you will not have power to the guages - and they go off ! :idea: you can also power a stero off of this pole
    are you going to rewire your boat ? I'm thinking of doing mine this year and was going to do away with my terminal block and run a weather tight pole connector and fuses -- my engine loom will be ONE Plug for ease of removal :idea:

  7. #7
    myoung
    The purple wire is a 12v supply from the solenoid that would normally bypass a ballast resistor before the coil while cranking the engine. This gives a hotter spark while cranking and then the coil input voltage is reduced for running so the coil doesn't burn up. Funny thing is, the purple wire would not even be necessary in this diagram at all. The diagram is for an electronic ignition system the reduces the voltage going to the coil within the ign. control box. The confusing part is that this diagram shows no ign. switched wire going to the ing. system. All the MSD ign. systems I've seen have a wire going into the box that you hook a switched 12 volts to with no ballast resistor.
    Another way of looking at the confusion of this particular diagram is that the purple wire should be shown going from the ign. switch to the ign. control, not to the starter solenoid.
    Link to MSD marine ign. wiring diagram here (http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/6460_frm23105.pdf)

  8. #8
    myoung
    So where did you find that diagram anyway?

  9. #9
    myoung
    are you going to rewire your boat ? I'm thinking of doing mine this year and was going to do away with my terminal block and run a weather tight pole connector and fuses -- my engine loom will be ONE Plug for ease of removal :idea:
    This is the way it should be done. Better yet, this is the way it should have been done for a long time. The fact that bus bars are still used amazes me. They went out with the dinosaurs. Weather tight plugs have been around long enough for people to get a clue.
    I have the ultimate screw up in my boat I have to rewire, every single wire in the entire boat is the same wire. Same size, same color with little stick on numbers that are missing off of half the wires.

  10. #10
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    So where did you find that diagram anyway?
    I'd like to know as well. As "nice" as it, and some others I have seen, look, you have to be wary of mistakes and just plain bad layouts.
    Lucky, that's not a remote Ford-type starter relay. Just an "artist's rendition" of a GM starter.

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