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Thread: Friend Or Vise President????

  1. #1
    FASTERDAMITT
    I need a little advice from you all. I have two offers to start a Home Mortgage Lending Business. One from a long term friend and the other offer is from the Vise President of the company I work for.
    The friend has been in the business for around ten years. Formerly employeed at Di-Tech, and has been working from home for five years successfully. Friend is a little insecure about opening an office. He would rather do marketing from the home office for awhile, until he is confident about having the larger investment. Personal commission the same as the VP suggests.
    The VP however is ready to take the plunge with a office with 8-10 loan officers and a processor/receptionist. Investment would be $50,000 to start and first quarter marketing budget $60,000. Second quarter net profits are around $115K, not including my personal commision.
    Any suggestions?

  2. #2
    ACCEPTENCE
    Just Do It !!!
    I was told this when faced with a large life changing decision:
    "If you don't give yourself permission to fail, you will NEVER give yourself permission to succeed"
    Good luck!!!

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    FREIND OF AA AND TA
    Never do buisiness with friends!!

  4. #4
    WetWillie
    Never do buisiness with friends!!
    Or FAMILY!!
    EVERYONE DOES MORTGAGES??

  5. #5
    FASTERDAMITT
    Never do buisiness with friends!!
    That's exactly what I have been telling myself. How do I break it to him?
    WETWILLIE, I know what your saying. I just closed two loans for my father-in-law. Very stressful for me. He's stated income but wanted full doc. It was hard to explain to him his DTI was not working full doc.
    ACCEPTANCE, That I will most likely do!

  6. #6
    WetWillie
    Best of luck to you! I didnt mean to come off as mortgages are a bad thing..
    Lots of room for good honest hard working peoples!

  7. #7
    FASTERDAMITT
    Best of luck to you! I didnt mean to come off as mortgages are a bad thing..
    Lots of room for good honest hard working peoples!
    I didn't take it negative anyway. With the incredible equity increases in the last few years there has been a opening for alot of crooks in the business. You wouldn't believe how many crooked shops open and fund a few million and dissapear with the cash. Or bait and switch.
    I'm here to be a service to my community and beyond. Hard to sleep at night when you take advantage of people's life savings.

  8. #8
    voodoomedman
    I need a little advice from you all. I have two offers to start a Home Mortgage Lending Business. One from a long term friend and the other offer is from the Vise President of the company I work for.
    The friend has been in the business for around ten years. Formerly employeed at Di-Tech, and has been working from home for five years successfully. Friend is a little insecure about opening an office. He would rather do marketing from the home office for awhile, until he is confident about having the larger investment. Personal commission the same as the VP suggests.
    The VP however is ready to take the plunge with a office with 8-10 loan officers and a processor/receptionist. Investment would be $50,000 to start and first quarter marketing budget $60,000. Second quarter net profits are around $115K, not including my personal commision.
    Any suggestions?
    Strictly from a business standpoint the VP is the way to go. Just watch your terms so he doesn't own you because he's putting up all the money. But anyways here is why I suggest this. Having many friends and family in the business I can tell you that the ones that are spending the money are the ones that are making the money. Another great thing to having a big marketing budget is that it is alot easier to sell to someone when they call you instead of you cold calling. It's great your friend has been successful from home but in the mortgage business that works for individuals and it takes time.

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    FASTERDAMITT
    Strictly from a business standpoint the VP is the way to go. Just watch your terms so he doesn't own you because he's putting up all the money. But anyways here is why I suggest this. Having many friends and family in the business I can tell you that the ones that are spending the money are the ones that are making the money. Another great thing to having a big marketing budget is that it is alot easier to sell to someone when they call you instead of you cold calling. It's great your friend has been successful from home but in the mortgage business that works for individuals and it takes time.
    Thanks. This is a 50/50 partnership. Investment and profit's. I agree. They both are in the same income bracket as for now. Two different approach's. I see my friend happy with his income for the most part. But I know he's aware that if he had an office of this kind he could let the loan officers produce his income in time. He has no real business plan but knows what he is doing for himself.
    The VP has a full 31 page plan for our venture. One difference between the two is the business aggresivness. The friend will do 10-12 loans a month for minimal profit on each. The VP is fixed on more aggresive approach as to do 4-5 at a higher margin. What concerns me there is, the VP has much less refferal business due to the higher fee's/rates. Am I making sense?

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    HocusPocus
    Never do buisiness with friends!!
    i agree.
    that is if you want to keep them as friends.

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