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Thread: Just got back from Parker, WTF?

  1. #1
    goneboatin
    I launched at Bluewater as I always do, and see that there's people pulling skiers from the beach; some psycho lady pulling her kid on a trainer ski being pulled from a tube (yes, one behind the other), yelled at me because I was going too slow (the area in front of Bluewater is a no wake zone from what I remember), pwc's buzzing all over the place. I was afraid to let the kids swim and play around the boat like they always do. As I passed the bouys or where they used to be (there's a piece of one on the Arizona side), people are hauling ass thru that area, there's not a quiet spot to just float and chill anymore unless you go up to the dam, but Bluewater's nice and wide so you don't have to move your boat all the time.
    The sheriff I had talked to last year when the wakeboard demos were going on told me that the area in front of Bluewater is under Indian jurisdiction and the Indians don't enforce any of the laws since thier golf carts can't go in the water. Plus if you contest the ticket saying that the sheriff was out of his jurisdiction when you received the ticket, it'll get thrown out. So only the honest people obey the rules posted at Bluewater.
    From what I have read here on the boards is that the reason for the no wake area is for ecological reasons for nesting birds in the reeds on the California side. If that is so, then wouldn't the Sheriffs have jurisdiction to prosicute (sp) all offenders?

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    Boatcop
    The ticket won't get tossed if cited by the Sheriff down there. We have jurisdiction anywhere in the County, including the Reservation. We just choose not to patrol Indian jurisdiction (at their request). If we need to go down there for any reason (Emergency Call, request for assistance, etc.) We will take action on any violations we observe, but we don't routinely patrol Res waters.
    In case you didn't notice, there is a conspicuous lack of "No Wake" buoys. That situation is between the Tribes, Coast Guard, ACOE, etc. Something we're not going to get in to.
    In the meantime, if anyone is cited for "No Wake" in that area, the lack of buoys is an excellent defense. You shouldn't get cited from us. I've told my guys that we're not taking any enforcement action on Wakes in that area until the buoys are back in.

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    riverbound
    The ticket won't get tossed if cited by the Sheriff down there. We have jurisdiction anywhere in the County, including the Reservation. We just choose not to patrol Indian jurisdiction (at their request). If we need to go down there for any reason (Emergency Call, request for assistance, etc.) We will take action on any violations we observe, but we don't routinely patrol Res waters.
    In case you didn't notice, there is a conspicuous lack of "No Wake" buoys. That situation is between the Tribes, Coast Guard, ACOE, etc. Something we're not going to get in to.
    In the meantime, if anyone is cited for "No Wake" in that area, the lack of buoys is an excellent defense. You shouldn't get cited from us. I've told my guys that we're not taking any enforcement action on Wakes in that area until the buoys are back in.
    Thats kind of what I figured last time i went down there and saw no buoys. Figured if I got popped, state the fact that there are no buoys present.

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    OCMerrill
    I personally don’t mind this no wake area. Those buoy’s were in sad shape last October. With out boats roaring past it makes "an easy place to hang" and my kids can swim around in a bit safer place.
    That’s going to make for one bumpy tie up in the Bluewater marina if let be.
    Alan,
    Interesting info about not being down there...sounds complicated politically. Most the speeding no wake violaters I see are PWC. Rules....what :idea: me?

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    Boatcop
    Alan,
    Interesting info about not being down there...sounds complicated politically. Most the speeding no wake violaters I see are PWC. Rules....what :idea: me?
    It's not so much a political deal. It's a management deal. If we go down there we could spend the entire shift writing wake and reckless tickets. That leaves the other 11 miles of the Strip unpatrolled.
    With the Casino (AKA the Tribes) getting the biggest benefit from boating in that area, we leave patrolling (or not patrolling) up to them. We owe a duty to the boaters and residents of the County, and spending an inordinant amount of time in another agency's jurisdiction would be neglecting that duty.

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    pretty scary if you ask me. It has been a no wake zone for awhile, then you get some freshie zooming through while the kids are floating around the boat, with the flag up..... and somebody gets wacked because nobody wanted to buy new no wake signs. Hope this gets resolved for the safety of everybody on the water.

  7. #7
    JetBoatRich
    I was there last weekend it was terrible, people would leave the marina and hit it :yuk:
    It was fun seeing all the UCLA students there having a hell of a party

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    ColeTR2
    If you what your kids to be safe don't take them to the most dangerous water way in the U.S. And definitely don't think there safe because of some 5 mph buoy. The no wake zone was not put there for safety reasons, it's there to protect a little fish that did just fine there for sixty years. If you ask me the no wake zone there is stupid, it killed the best place to ski on the river and test and tune high performance boats. If you what to float, pools work great for that no currents, clear water and easy to keep an eye on the kids. Also there is no speed limit near the dam so please be careful.

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    If you what your kids to be safe don't take them to the most dangerous water way in the U.S. And definitely don't think there safe because of some 5 mph buoy. The no wake zone was not put there for safety reasons, it's there to protect a little fish that did just fine there for sixty years. If you ask me the no wake zone there is stupid, it killed the best place to ski on the river and test and tune high performance boats. If you what to float, pools work great for that no currents, clear water and easy to keep an eye on the kids.
    It is safer as a no wake zone in my opinion. Just like pools are good for floating.. there are other river and lakes to "ski on the river and test and tune high performance boats"... so now just have lake lice and beach starts coming flying at you while you are doing those things... again seems like a safety issue to me, but not to all...

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    Jrocket
    I like the no wake area,theres 11 other miles of river to haul azz on if you need to.

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