I'm looking to find out about aluminum BBF's. Where do i find one, how many cubes, weight savings, etc. I tried using my search engine with no luck. I'm ass-u-ming someone makes one ? A buddy thought he read about an 815 c.i. BBF. That may be extreme, but may do the job perfectly :skull:
I am sure that lakes will chim in here.
I know the ford A460 can be over bored to atleast 4.600. It can also be stroked way out. a 4.600 bore and 4.5 inch stroke would make it just under 600 CI
I know there is a company that make safter market iron and AL block that can be stroked out to like 6"s just for the life of me I can't remember then name.
I am sure that lakes will chim in here.
I know there is a company that make safter market iron and AL block that can be stroked out to like 6"s just for the life of me I can't remember then name.
My buddy Tony and I are in the same spot. We've read about the big cube AL block, but can't remember where we did......Damn It Jim !!!!!!!!!
I don't think you will find the A96 aluminum block available directly through Ford Racing at this time, nor am I in a position to suggest why.
If you must have an aluminum 429/460 block, I suggest locating an AR block. These blocks have not been made for some time, but if you can find one (the one with the cam-driven accessory idler boss cast into it), buy it.
How many molds were actually created (1 or 2) and where they might have ended up is a bit of a gray area for me and others. But it seems that one company may indeed have an original mold. (How "original" it is decades later is questionable...might have been tweaked/reworked?) Go to C and C Motorsports (http://candcmotorsports.com/) and select their "blocks" page. You will see two versions of the block: one with the cam-drive idler boss and one without. The website shows these blocks starting at $5495 for the standard deck deal. You may also want to inquire with Jon Kaase Racing Engines. (http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/) Again, click on the link to the blocks page. Kaase makes the 815 cubic inch hemi mountain motor. These are tall deck blocks and cost somewhere around $100,000,000,000. This Kaase 815 hemi pictured below was run at IHBA Nitro Nationals:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/...Kaase815_1.jpg
LO
p.s.: A standard deck's typical max CID is 598 (4.6B x 4.5S).
Over ten years ago I worked on a BGF that ran an "A/R Ford". It was Ford parts made by Alan Root, and I think they were in (around) Ventura Calif. Good luck, you may find better sources down south (USA), those guys like their BIG Fords!
Over ten years ago I worked on a BGF that ran an "A/R Ford". It was Ford parts made by Alan Root, and I think they were in (around) Ventura Calif. Good luck, you may find better sources down south (USA), those guys like their BIG Fords!The story I am about to tell I've heard only once, so it may not be exact...
I believe that A/R originally stood for Arias-Root, then later Alan Root (after the split). The point at which Nick Arias and Alan Root parted ways is where things get gray, depending on who you speak to and what their story is. Root said that a second block mold was made shortly after the two gentlemen separated and that (long story short) one of them ultimately ended up at C&C and the other is sitting in storage with a big pile of other stuff that that current owner aquired but doesn't use in their day-to-day business.
When the two split, Nick Arias called my business partner, Van, and basically wanted Van to run one of Nick's brand new blocks and go wreak havoc on Root's stuff (in effect). Van was supposed to get the #1 block out of the mold but that block was not configured exactly as Van wanted. Neither was casting #2 (block serial number FO2), but Van settled under the circumstances.
Personally, given the choice between an A96 block and an A/R block, I will go with the A/R block. The A96 block does not have the cam-driven idler gear boss, and I also know a few people that have had trouble with another A96 block feature...but I have no idea if it was an isolated situation or not. Whether or not the Root and the Arias blocks both have the cam-driven accessory feature in unclear to me, but I do believe it was Nick Arias' original design. Also, that new Arias block was available in all kinds of configurations, including side-skirting the block at the pan rails, solid, water jacketed, internal oiling system, external oil system, and both Ford and Mopar Hemi mounting F&R. And it just so happens that the C&C block is available with all these options, which suggests the possibility that C&C ended up with that block mold, probably after it passed through Chuck Seyler's hands...but that's another stroy.
Finally, although they have ceased production of it, you may try calling Race Parts Direct for the A96 block. They recently listed on ebay what they claimed to be the last of those A96 aluminum blocks in stock. If you want to inquire, you may contact them through Ebay by clicking HERE (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZrac...QfsooZ1QQrdZ0?) or try calling 704-892-8688.
LO
These are tall deck blocks and cost somewhere around $100,000,000,000.
Good grief Paul, one hundred billion dollars??????? That is one expensive mill!
I'm guessing or hoping... that that's a typo.
these guys make a Iron block that you can bore too 4.700..
http://eliminatorproducts.com/
Eliminator makes some very nice cylinder blocks indeed, if it's iron that you want. I want to enter some personal preference here, specifically that if one want's the entry level Eliminator Sportsman Block, then personally I'd choose Ford Racing's A460 block over the Eliminator Sportsman (I already have, actually). The A460 and the Sportsman are about the same price, but the features between the two vary:
Both blocks have nodular cast main caps, SVO = 4-bolt on 2, 3, & 4, and Sportsman = 4-bolt on 1-5.
Both blocks have 2.25" standard-style cam bearings.
SVO has siamese cylinders, the Sportsman block does not
SVO can go to 4.600 bore, the Sportsman only to 4.500 bore.
SVO has provision for the 18-bolt head, Sportsman block does not (only the 4 extra bolt holes on the exhaust side???)
Both have priority mains oiling, but the Eliminator blocks require some unusual attention on the trans-side of the block end, if you wish to take advantage of this feature.
SVO is rated to 1500HP @ 8000 rpm, the Eliminator is rated only to 1100HP.
For the extra $100, personally I'll take the A-460 over the Sportsman. (Also, don't forget to ask how much shipping is! I can get anyone the A-460 and may beat the shipping price too.)
Back to aluminum,
Paul
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