Opinions From Law Enforcement

[Wizard29]

Is it illegal in California to carry a loaded, concealed CO2 BB gun on your person in public?
I was debating this with one of my guys in my shop and he swears up and down it is because it qualifies as a firearm (12020 PC).
Having been in law enforcement in the past, I know that a CO2 BB gun does not qualify as a firearm, a prohibited weapon, nor an assault weapon. As such, it is my opinion that it could legally be carried concealed upon one's person. You could get 417 or 245 if you were to use it the wrong way, but that's about it.
Any sections I am unaware of that would prohibit carrying one concealed?Never ran across that when I was in the field...

[probablecause]

Is it illegal in California to carry a loaded, concealed CO2 BB gun on your person in public?
I was debating this with one of my guys in my shop and he swears up and down it is because it qualifies as a firearm (12020 PC).
Having been in law enforcement in the past, I know that a CO2 BB gun does not qualify as a firearm, a prohibited weapon, nor an assault weapon. As such, it is my opinion that it could legally be carried concealed upon one's person. You could get 417 or 245 if you were to use it the wrong way, but that's about it.
Any sections I am unaware of that would prohibit carrying one concealed?Never ran across that when I was in the field...
I agree. But I would still dump you if you reached for it.

[Big_Gunz_]

You are correct, it's legal but a stupid thing to do. Anybody wanting to carry a loaded concealed BB gun in public is looking to get "black holed" or even "air mailed" some lead. And yes, I would also reduce someones blood pressure if they pulled it out.

[Mrs.Killer]

Lets ask L R 2, he is all knowing. I mean , he is a big time LAPD cock rider....

[Parker Dreamin]

Cant we all just get along........ :argue:

[MRSDRMCAT]

Oh no ...........here we go again!!

[Mrs.Killer]

Give him a few hours, he will be on here putting all L E down. :yuk:

[Wizard29]

I agree. But I would still dump you if you reached for it.
Oh yeah. Without a doubt. When I was pushing a black and white, I would have done the same.
Is LR2 not a huge fan of the po-po?

[Kilrtoy]

This outta cover it for ya and most cities and county have specific codes in regards to BB/pellet guns
12001. (a) (1) As used in this title, the terms "pistol,"
"revolver," and "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person"
shall apply to and include any device designed to be used as a
weapon, from which is expelled a projectile by the force of any
explosion, or other form of combustion, and that has a barrel less
than 16 inches in length. These terms also include any device that
has a barrel 16 inches or more in length which is designed to be
interchanged with a barrel less than 16 inches in length.
(2) As used in this title, the term "handgun" means any "pistol,"
"revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the person."
(b) As used in this title, "firearm" means any device, designed to
be used as a weapon, from which is expelled through a barrel a
projectile by the force of any explosion or other form of combustion.
(c) As used in Sections 12021, 12021.1, 12070, 12071, 12072,
12073, 12078, 12101, and 12801 of this code, and Sections 8100, 8101,
and 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, the term "firearm"
includes the frame or receiver of the weapon.
(d) For the purposes of Sections 12025 and 12031, the term
"firearm" also shall include any rocket, rocket propelled projectile
launcher, or similar device containing any explosive or incendiary
material whether or not the device is designed for emergency or
distress signaling purposes.
(e) For purposes of Sections 12070, 12071, and paragraph (8) of
subdivision (a), and subdivisions (b), (c), (d), and (f) of Section
12072, the term "firearm" does not include an unloaded firearm that
is defined as an "antique firearm" in Section 921(a)(16) of Title 18
of the United States Code.
(f) Nothing shall prevent a device defined as a "handgun,"
"pistol," "revolver," or "firearm capable of being concealed upon the
person" from also being found to be a short-barreled shotgun or a
short-barreled rifle, as defined in Section 12020.
(g) For purposes of Sections 12551 and 12552, the term "BB device"
means any instrument that expels a projectile, such as a BB or a
pellet, not exceeding 6mm caliber, through the force of air pressure,
gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun.

[lil man wayne]

That lowriver guy is a real cop and i think works in a firearms division while that kilr guy is the school police who thinks he is a real police officer but in reality rides up on the hand me down lapd police bike bmw and just kicks down the doors on the local spicoli kids who decide to skip out on school. :argue: :rollside: :rollside: :crossx: