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Thread: Magneto Plugs

  1. #1
    Thunderbutt
    In changing the plugs, the auto parts didn't have what I had in, Autolite ap-25. So I bought Autolite ar-135 racing. Do you think they will work with the Vertex Mag.? They're a lot colder, and the electrode goes to the side of tip, which makes the reach about an 1/8" shorter. What do you think?

  2. #2
    Hal
    Check this out
    Spark Plugs

  3. #3
    GofastRacer
    The Vertex will fire any plug as long as the gap is within range but is that plug right for your application??..

  4. #4
    Infomaniac
    About .018 max gap unless it has an external capacitor.
    heat range is the operating temp of the plug. Has nothing to do with the spark.
    A cold plug is for a very high combustion temp engine. It operates cold enough to not cause pre-ignition.
    It has to be hot enough to repel combustion deposits. If not it fouls easily.
    [ June 13, 2003, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: Infomaniac ]

  5. #5
    Thunderbutt
    Hal:
    Check this out
    Spark Plugs Hal, I like that site, execpt I stayed with Autolite and they think they are junk.
    Gofast, I,m not sure.When the motor was built it had 13/1 compresson as the gas got wrose I would change the compresson, now it has 11/1 with the same cam,open chamber heads. I'm going to try these plugs and see, another $17.00 what the hell.

  6. #6
    GofastRacer
    Well shit, I guess it goes back to "whatever works best". I've tried all kinds of plugs that I was told that they were the best, but I found that(in my motors anyway) Autolite and NGK's work the best. Seems like NGK's are a little easier to read than Autolite's but since I'm used to Autolite's numbering and reading them, I just stick with the Autolite's. Maybe with a big ass blown motor it may be a different story, who knows!..
    Info, I've asked this question about a Vertex many times and nobody could give me an answer. "How much gap can you have before it won't run?". So I experimented, I opened it .002 at a time until finally it didn't want to start easy and at low RPM, it would stumble when I stood on it. That was .032. The thing would run like a bitch on the top end though. After that, I went to .022 and it works great, never have a problem. Of course this is on gas, never tried it with alky???..

  7. #7
    Infomaniac
    Gas is easier to light off. Any problems would be at starting and low RPM's A big gap will let you know in a hurry when the mag is getting weak.
    The bigger the gap - the more energy must build up to jump it. It is harder on the ignition but gives a hotter spark.
    The mag puts out more energy the faster you spin it. You already knew that.
    [ June 14, 2003, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: Infomaniac ]

  8. #8
    Thunderbutt
    All of the plugs that I used before I gaped at 18 to 20. The ar135 are pre-gaped at 025 by Autolite and you can't change them. They have what looks like a steel electrode and if you try to bend or move it, it will brake. I started the boat up on the lift and adjusted the idel( I'm not worth a shit at that). Info, why don't you make a trip to LOTO and adjust these Carb's. But anyway it runs fine for now.

  9. #9
    Infomaniac
    Drag it down here, I will fix it up.

  10. #10
    GofastRacer
    Thunderbutt:
    All of the plugs that I used before I gaped at 18 to 20. The ar135 are pre-gaped at 025 by Autolite and you can't change them. They have what looks like a steel electrode and if you try to bend or move it, it will brake. I started the boat up on the lift and adjusted the idel( I'm not worth a shit at that). Info, why don't you make a trip to LOTO and adjust these Carb's. But anyway it runs fine for now. Sooo, how does it start and run with the gaps at .025??(excluding idle, I won't get into that)!..

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