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Thread: Court ruling makes boating illegal in much of U.S.

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    Richie Rich
    Here's an interesting read I found while doing a google search which if true could effect us all. I'm not sure how reliable the source is here but I figured I'd pass it on anyway.
    http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/ME2/di...CF019C5205D3C4

  2. #2
    HCS
    What a Commie!!!! You ever wander why people want to shoot judges?

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    chub
    Will anyone enforce this though?

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    Richie Rich
    Will anyone enforce this though?
    I hope if the Coast Guard is against it then it will probably be ignored. I don't need to give DNR another reason to f^ck with me out on the water.
    "MRAA is working with the Coast Guard, state boating law administrators, and NMMA ... to fight this onerous ruling," said MRAA chairman Glenn Mazzella, in a statement.

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    Wake Havasu
    US federal judge declares boating illegal in all US navigable waters (http://www.ibinews.com/ibinews/newsd...23ibinews.html)
    By IBI Magazine
    In a rather bizarre ruling that has marine industry officials worried, Judge Robert G. James of the United States District Court, Western Division of Louisiana, has said that it is criminal trespass for the American boating public to boat, fish, or hunt on the Mississippi River and other navigable waters in the US.
    In the case of Normal Parm v. Sheriff Mark Shumate, James ruled that federal law grants exclusive and private control over the waters of the river, outside the main shipping channel, to riparian landowners. The shallows of the navigable waters are no longer open to the public. That, in effect, makes boating illegal across most of the country.
    "Even though this action seems like a horrible pre-April fools joke, it is very serious," said Phil Keeter, MRAA president, in a statement. "Because essentially all the waters and waterways of our country are considered navigable in the US law, this ruling declares recreational boating, water skiing, fishing, waterfowl hunting, and fishing tournaments to be illegal and the public subject to jail sentences for recreating with their families."
    Last month, James rejected the findings of the Magistrate judge who found earlier that the American public had the right under federal law and Louisiana law to navigate, boat, fish, and hunt on the waters of the Mississippi river up to the normal high water line of the river. Judge James Kirk relied on the long established federal principles of navigation that recognized the public navigational rights "Â…entitles the public to the reasonable use of navigable waters for all legitimate purposes of travel or transportation, for boating, sailing for pleasure, as well as for carrying persons or property for hire, and in any kind of watercraft the use of which is consistent with others also enjoying the right possessed in common."
    "MRAA is working with the Coast Guard, state boating law administrators, and NMMA to fight this onerous ruling," said Glen Mazzella, MRAA chairman, in the statement.
    (14 September 2006)

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    SnakeWrench
    US federal judge declares boating illegal in all US navigable waters (http://www.ibinews.com/ibinews/newsd...23ibinews.html)
    By IBI Magazine
    In a rather bizarre ruling that has marine industry officials worried, Judge Robert G. James of the United States District Court, Western Division of Louisiana, has said that it is criminal trespass for the American boating public to boat, fish, or hunt on the Mississippi River and other navigable waters in the US.
    In the case of Normal Parm v. Sheriff Mark Shumate, James ruled that federal law grants exclusive and private control over the waters of the river, outside the main shipping channel, to riparian landowners. The shallows of the navigable waters are no longer open to the public. That, in effect, makes boating illegal across most of the country.
    "Even though this action seems like a horrible pre-April fools joke, it is very serious," said Phil Keeter, MRAA president, in a statement. "Because essentially all the waters and waterways of our country are considered navigable in the US law, this ruling declares recreational boating, water skiing, fishing, waterfowl hunting, and fishing tournaments to be illegal and the public subject to jail sentences for recreating with their families."
    Last month, James rejected the findings of the Magistrate judge who found earlier that the American public had the right under federal law and Louisiana law to navigate, boat, fish, and hunt on the waters of the Mississippi river up to the normal high water line of the river. Judge James Kirk relied on the long established federal principles of navigation that recognized the public navigational rights "Â…entitles the public to the reasonable use of navigable waters for all legitimate purposes of travel or transportation, for boating, sailing for pleasure, as well as for carrying persons or property for hire, and in any kind of watercraft the use of which is consistent with others also enjoying the right possessed in common."
    "MRAA is working with the Coast Guard, state boating law administrators, and NMMA to fight this onerous ruling," said Glen Mazzella, MRAA chairman, in the statement.
    (14 September 2006)
    Nice, What next. Soon it will be illegal to own or work on a boat. Well, this is where the voters come in. Keep in mind that if we don't vote, this kind of thing will happen.

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    riverracerx
    pretty soon it will be illegal to post threads about boating. Then we are all screwed! We will have to work during the day again..

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    DMOORE
    Sometimes I think that the " justice " has gone insane. There in no common sense to half of what these judges do.
    Darrell.

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    centerhill condor
    so then, the corps de engineers have no jurisdiction and these land owners can fix their own river problems? this will create much work for many lawyers..woo hoo!

  10. #10
    HCS
    I know there's not many LP fans on here but this is well put.
    QUOTE:
    You are going to have to make a choice. Either be proactive and save boating as we know it, or be passive and let NONBOATERS legislate for you. Politicians are always looking for something like this so they can make a new shiny law with their name on it. They don't care if it's fair. They don't care if it's right. They don't even care if it helps. They just want their name on it. Mark my words. There are people in office right now thinking we need speed limits. Right of ways. Hours of operation and who the hell knows what all else. Boating is the last true freedom left. You cannot buy a Ferrarri and drive it like a Ferrarri anywhere in America. You cannot buy a plane and practice barnstorming without years of approvals and tiered documentation and even then, limited time, in limited airspace. Only in boating can you go buy a boat and drive it like it is meant to be driven. Sit on your ass and you will lose that right.

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