Help me out here V-Drivers. I go to Parker all the time, have driven/ridden in numerous brands of boats and sizes, vees and tunnels. On Saturday afternoons as everyone knows, the water is very rough. All of these boats I speak of, ride rough. I drool all day long over all the Bad Blown Schiadas that pretty much rule parker. What I don't understand is how those 21' V-Drive Schaidas all haul ass across that chop and appear to be riding smoother than any boat on the water. Do all of them have ballast tanks? I know they are a rough water bred boat mfg, but so is Hallett, in which I often go to Parker in a 210 open bow, and it still gets tossed around pretty good. They all look trimmed in, in the rough stuff, but so is everyone. You guys run balls out anyway. Is Schiada that superior of a rough water boat? Or is it drive type related?
Schiadas are built tough ,I run my 20 spectra in the rough [ocean]occasionally with the aid of bennett tabs no problem.The key is in the bottom layup of these boats.The spectra has a 1" solid handlaid fiberglass bottom at the keel and the sides are solid 3/8 with up to 1/2 inch in critical areas.Full lenght stringers help too.The V-drive's shaft angle helps to keep the schiada at a comfortable level.
[This message has been edited by spectras only (edited February 08, 2002).]
Yes, I think the drive line angle seems to have alot to do with it. The same boat in an I/O seems to get tossed more and has more bow rise than the v-drive version. Also the plates have a lot of surface are and when you tuck then down a bit it keeps the nose down.
They can take the pounding too. My 20' is around 1" thick with 4 full length stringers.
I know I'm judgemental but I think that Schiada got the bottom right also. http://free.***boat.net/ubb/smile.gif
The trade off is price. You do pay extra for one. I bought mine used and could have spent way less and got a nice boat. Every time I drive it I know I got the right one for me.
Leonard Schiada developed this hull over 30 years ago and its still on top of the heap today. A 21 Schiada will outrun (in rough water) nearly any 24 or 25 footer today.
When ski racing got hot, a few guys like Billy Dunsmore and Gary Teague started adding a lot of horsepower, improving the two or three speed automatics usually installed by Schiada, changing the balance slightly, and doing a lot of tricks with the rudder, and the pair or two pair of plates. Whats really fun to do with these day-cruisers is put a hatch and back seat in, and cruise around looking for someone to try to pass you. Not many V bottoms in any size can do it. Be real careful of any Schiada that doesn't make a lot of noise. Its most likely to be turboed!
My dad knew Leonord and bought several boats from him (at least 10 or 12) before he passed away, He has always told the story that Leonard had a friend who ran a wind tunnel at Lockheed, when Leonard was building the plug for the mold for the 21, he took to the wind tunnel several times, before the boat was but into production, that is why are still the top of the line after 30 years!
Marc
1Quickjet,
I think any 20 & 21 v-drive cruiser will ride better in rough water, not just a Schiada. I have been in 20&21 Schiada, 20 Spectra/Howard, 21 Hallett, 21 Rayson Craft and even the 20 foot Campbell (almost a flat bottom) properly set up they all ride like they are on tracks.
Brent
old rigger
Where is BK boat repair?
Originally posted by old rigger:
By the way SD, I saw you boat on barneys site and was wondering if you were going to cap that thing while you were having all that work done?
[This message has been edited by old rigger (edited February 09, 2002).]
I don't know the guy. I might know the face though. I am not going to cap it. I see no reason to as it will always have a rub rail.
remember, this is going to be my everyday lake boat.
But, what did you think about the progress so far?
spectrabrent
I loved my 20 Campbell, and it was set up right, but was really only happy in fairly smooth water. Hey, I took the 40' Campbell to Catalina a few times, and if it got rough the Campbell would launch! Spectra's started with a little more V and rode well as we both know. I raced Rayson's and they were the best turning of them all. Today, almost nothing can run with a Gary Teague built 210 Hallett with one of his turbo motors. Right?
I would say your right about the Hallett 210 being he best 20 to 21 foot hull on the market today. Nobody designed a better boat than Bud Bailey.
Brent
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